Prince Philip - /co/ (#149228514) [Archived: 581 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:00:26 PM No.149228514
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Why didn't they include him being part Ogre
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:27:16 PM No.149228656
ew yucky
what kind of woman wants to marry a big fat green smelly ogre?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:52:04 PM No.149228802
>>149228656
Ogre's in the context of the original story still look like humans, they just eat flesh.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:09:40 PM No.149228887
>>149228656
This isn't D&D, Ogres were originally a type of fairy while Orcs were described as the descendeds of Cain
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:35:17 PM No.149229048
>>149228887
The word fairy can mean like 100 different things you know.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:19:27 PM No.149229385
>>149229048
"Fairy" comes from a Persian word that applied to various Indo-European and regional nature spirits, which was subsequently biblicalized and the fairies were seen throughout most of history as Angels who remained neutral in the War in Heaven and were banished to Earth rather than Heaven or Hell.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:47:21 PM No.149230159
>>149228656
Bitches love the THICK OGRE LOAD.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:49:51 PM No.149230185
>>149228514 (OP)
What?
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:50:28 PM No.149230188
>>149228656
>he doesn't know
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:55:39 PM No.149230239
>>149230159
I'm genuinely curious if you "ugly bastards/ogre/pig" gooners actually believe this?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:57:24 PM No.149230258
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>>149230239
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:58:44 PM No.149230276
>>149228514 (OP)
That's all men.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:00:48 PM No.149230300
>>149229385
>most of history as Angels who remained neutral in the War in Heaven and were banished to Earth rather than Heaven or Hell.
These were posed at possible theories in Medieval times but they never really reached a consensus.
Other theories were that they are some kind of third class of being or ghosts.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:04:08 PM No.149230338
>>149228887
>Orcs were described as the descendeds of Cain
Or the descendants of the giants Gog and Magog, aka Eurasian Steppe nomads.
It was thought that anybody who could live beyond the fringes of civilization in some of the harshest environments on earth had to be some kind of monster men.
Unfortunately you never see Mongol inspired Orcs these days.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:12:12 PM No.149230431
>>149230258
This guy gets it.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:14:15 PM No.149230460
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>>149230239
It's more likely than you think.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:02:39 PM No.149231005
>>149230460
Note that the man is basically an attractive underwear model with Green-skin. When women like monsters, it means brooding Vampires and Werewolves, not fat bald men. The few women who like fat men are brain-rotten women with fetishes.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:07:49 PM No.149231071
>>149231005
Any woman who posts here has brain rot and/or weird fetishes.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:20:08 PM No.149231937
>>149230338
There were the Orcs in Battle Brothers pretty much.

On another note everyone who thought Orcs were black people were fucking retarded, at most i could see a few Native American influences in some series, but a lot of the time they're basically just different flavors of Iron age barbarians and Steppe Nomads without horses and shit. At least in the media i've seen.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:30:33 PM No.149232691
>>149228514 (OP)
Is dis in yhe brother'd grimm story or some shiet
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:33:00 PM No.149232721
>>149230338
>Unfortunately you never see Mongol inspired Orcs these days.
Warhammer Fantasy's hobgoblins are pretty close.

>>149232691
The Perrault version, actually.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:18:55 PM No.149233982
>>149230338
>>149232721
The Morrowind Orcs had influences inspired by Mongolian/Steppe people, they also retained the Tolkien idea that they were originally Elves, although these aspects have been toned down in newer TES games
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:09:40 AM No.149234698
>>149230338
Does that mean Phillip was a hapa? Amazing Disney never tried to cash it up
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:35:30 AM No.149235031
>>149234698
More similar to Russian/Polish
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:38:02 AM No.149235057
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>>149235031
That mean hapa. Also Philip's mixing was supposed to still be noticeable because his mom was a barbarian/orc. Maybe Philip's children will pass as white
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:45:17 AM No.149235145
>>149228514 (OP)
>in the story it's his mother who is the ogre
>his human dad fucked and knocked up an ogress
King Gigachad.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:49:10 AM No.149235195
>>149235145
King Certified monster girl fucker the first.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:56:58 AM No.149235284
>>149232721
Charles Perrault is better than the brothers Grimm because ehe didn't have an axe to grind about the Catholic Church or German Nationalism.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:01:07 AM No.149235336
>>149235145
There was like a 10th century Habsberg prince who married a Polish noblewoman who was said to be 6 feet tall and could drive nails into a wooden board with her fists.
She was considered quite the catch
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:23:56 AM No.149236066
>>149235057
>>149230338
What the fuck are you talking about? Ogres were never associated with those on the Eurasian Steppe nomad, they were more linked to European nobility who treated people poorly
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:25:23 AM No.149236080
>>149235145
>>149235195
>Many a time the queen told her son that he ought to settle down in life. She tried in this way to make him confide in her, but he did not dare to trust her with his secret. Despite the affection which he bore her, he was afraid of his mother, for she came of a race of ogres, and the king had only married her for her wealth.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:42:48 AM No.149236268
>>149228514 (OP)
Huh????
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:08:02 AM No.149236534
>>149236080
>only married her for her wealth
Sure. Still pumped a son into her though, didn't he? The snu-snu was too much to resist.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:32:01 AM No.149236815
Puss in Boots before the ogre
Puss in Boots before the ogre
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>>149236534
Again, Ogres are not originally described as monstrous giants, but are larger than an average person and have an appetite for human flesh, like this is an Ogre
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:56:25 AM No.149237107
>>149236815
I just remember some version of Bluebeard portray the title character as an Ogre as well.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:00:39 AM No.149237156
>>149236066
That smells like an Enlightment retcon.
The ancient Chinese called the people north of the Great Wall the Hu and also though of them as Savage monsters.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:07:36 AM No.149237230
>>149237156
>The ancient Chinese called the people north of the Great Wall the Hu
https://youtu.be/jM8dCGIm6yc?list=RDjM8dCGIm6yc&t=187
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:21:52 AM No.149237386
Ogres are Hungarian.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:01:33 AM No.149237870
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>>149228887
>Ogres were originally a type of fairy
Actually they weren't. Ogre in a classical sense just meant "giant, man-eating humanoid". It wasn't a specific thing or even category of things. It was a description of a collection of traits. Literally applied to anything larger than a full grown adult human that ate people and was vaguely human in their body plan.

Not sure where you got that idea. Neither ogres nor giants or trolls with which they are sometimes conflated were considered a type of fairy.

Trows (troll inspired fairies of the northern parts of Scotland) were fairies and are where we get the word drow which was later used for dark elves, another kind of fairy. There's also see-trow, another kind of fairy, but that's an unrelated mythological kettle of worms that's 2-3 steps removed from trolls.

There's also orcs which at conception were another word for goblin which are a kind of fairy derived from kobolds, but they're an entirely modern creation stemming from Tolkien.

None of this is to say no fairies are ogres. There are ogrish fairies, but that's neither here nor there.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:05:00 AM No.149237923
>>149228887
>Orcs were described as the descendeds of Cain
You're thinking of Grendel and his mother who were, if anything, Nephilim.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:17:49 AM No.149238069
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>>149237870
>>149237923
Oh, there's also oni which are sometimes translated as ogres, but Japan doesn't really have a perfect fairy equivalent (except arguably tengu which are at the least sometimes called Japanese goblins in English albeit having little in common with European goblins) and even if they did, it wouldn't be oni. Japan has a diverse variety of monsters in various nebulous groupings, but oni are sorta in their own little corner on account of 1 important key trait. They're *corporeal*. They're about as far as what you could consider Japanese fairy analogues as you could get.

And the Chinese ghosts from which they are possibly descended are not at all related to Chinese fairies.

Oh, but I guess oni which could be considered Japanese ogres were mischaracterized as Japanese goblins in a Touhou song that reached meme status so if you knew goblins are fairies and you knew oni were Japanese ogres and you knew the song was about an oni you could have been brought to the mistaken assumption that ogres are fairies through that shit.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:25:36 AM No.149238148
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>>149236815
Thatโ€™s only one historical depiction of an ogre though, a particularly human looking one. Hereโ€™s another. I think >>149237870
gets it right, it wasnโ€™t really defined pre modern fantasy as anything more than โ€œmonstrous humanoidโ€ meaning people could imagine them any way they liked from that very vague description.
Anonyrnous
7/2/2025, 6:29:26 AM No.149238766
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>>149228514 (OP)
Sleeping Beauty was made on a strict budget. There was only so much they could fit into 75 minutes.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:42:12 AM No.149240056
>>149228514 (OP)
>Why didn't they include him being part Ogre
Am I missing something here?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:52:44 AM No.149240122
>>149240056
The classical version of the story drops Maleficent completely after the curse and instead has Sleeping Beauty awoken by a prince who is the son of an ogrish queen who tries to eat Sleeping Beauty and her children. The plan fails courtesy of some animal stand ins a la snow white and the queen kills herself when the prince, by then the king, finds out she's an ogre and has been trying to eat his family.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:21:51 AM No.149240787
>>149237923
>The term is used just once in Beowulf, as the plural compound orcneas, in the sense of a tribe of monstrous beings descended from Cain, alongside the elves and ettins (giants), who were condemned by God
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:28:03 AM No.149240829
>>149228514 (OP)
Could you imagine him telling this to Aurora and her saying something like:
>funny, you don't *look* Ogrish.

>the queen kills herself when the prince, by then the king, finds out she's an ogre and has been trying to eat his family.
I'm pretty sure he already knew she was an ogress. Funny how the narrative treats him as being just a regular (albeit royal) human being even though he's half-ogre.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:58:46 AM No.149240999
>>149240787
Fair point, but counterpoints
1. Whether that's the plural for orc is disputed and
2. Even if it were orc, it would be the Old English orc, not the modern English orc, which have literally no relation but phonetics. Tolkien just liked the word as a fit for his alternate word for goblin. He said as such outright. They are not and are not intended to be the same creature. We're dealing with homophones.

Also, I guess
3. That description of orcs (if it even is a description of orcs), is from a single post Christianization poet ascribing a Biblical origin to already extant boggarts of the time. In the same fucking line, he does the same for fucking Norse giants and fucking elves and right after he does the same for English giants. Taking that as a traditional or even widely adopted origin for those creatures is all sorts of nonsensical.

Oh, and the old English term "orc" was by surviving records itself ill-defined, essentially just meaning evil spirit as best as can be told.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:06:59 AM No.149241035
>>149240829
>funny, you don't *look* Ogrish.
Her telling him he doesn't look ogrish would be a bit silly. She'd either be saying he doesn't look humanoid or she's insulting his height.

>Funny how the narrative treats him as being just a regular (albeit royal) human being even though he's half-ogre.
Well it's not like humans can't eat humans and his mother isn't described as looking like a particularly monstrous variety of ogre, so he would essentially just be a regular human as long as he isn't eating people. Maybe a bit taller. There isn't much to point out narratively. Are you expecting some side arc where he's forced to resort to cannibalism at war and discovers his ogre genes make human flesh taste delicious to him or something? That'd certainly make for a novel adaptation.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:14:32 PM No.149241381
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>>149240829
>>149241035
What about something like this?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:04:49 PM No.149241908
>>149241381
Women only want one thing and it's--
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:28:40 PM No.149242024
>>149237230
Mongolian does straight up sound like Black Speech from LotR.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:39:27 PM No.149242071
>>149235145
It used to be not terribly uncommon for noble and aristocrats familymies to claim some kind of fairy ancestor in their genealogies.
An old Spanish noble house once claimed descent from a water nymph.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:29:53 PM No.149242431
>>149235145
>As my first decree, all those vassals who swear their undying loyalty of them and their lines hereafter to me shall receive a qt ogre wife.
>approval skyrockets to 100%
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:53:33 PM No.149243166
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>>149241908
A conventionally attractive man with a "dark/beastly" side
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 5:06:18 PM No.149243293
>>149235336
>tfw no Polack snu-snu
I want to die.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:08:35 PM No.149243816
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>>149243166
close enough
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:51:18 PM No.149244173
>>149241381
Not a bad Idea
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:54:09 PM No.149244794
>>149230460
These fucking covers always make me laugh.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:58:21 PM No.149244850
>>149230460
Why do we never get the reverse? Where are my erotic fantasy novels about human men getting snu-snu'd by female orcs?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:27:45 PM No.149245293
>>149228656
Hahaha yeah ikr??
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:06:44 PM No.149245673
>>149230460
In retrospect maybe we were too hard on Stephanie Meyers
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:16:28 PM No.149245758
>>149245673
She was a harbinger.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:57:40 PM No.149246187
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>>149245758
of... ?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:01:59 PM No.149246234
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>>149228656
y-you know what? FUCK OFF
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:11:35 PM No.149246326
>>149246187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgpRMpSB-tI
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:54:13 PM No.149246775
>>149228656
>t. Lord Farquaad
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:48:53 PM No.149247417
>>149228514 (OP)
So he's the strongest being on the planet?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:34:19 AM No.149247891
>>149246234
you sound angry
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:20:15 AM No.149248395
>>149243816
This was hotter than it should have been

I wonder if they used reference footage..
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:44:20 AM No.149248645
>>149228514 (OP)
>sorceress Aurora from the /co/ threads and the half-ogre Philip, as mighty as he is noble, getting hitched
Imagine the power of their offspring