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Anonymous No.149279667 [Report] >>149279819 >>149279866 >>149280110 >>149282457 >>149282878 >>149282898 >>149283047 >>149283114 >>149283345 >>149285121 >>149286100 >>149288787 >>149289855 >>149291482 >>149291916 >>149292298 >>149294079 >>149296507 >>149298065 >>149298354 >>149299914
many of spider-mans villains should have abandoned their classic costumes permanently
Anonymous No.149279765 [Report]
they have
and they go back to them because it doesn't work
Anonymous No.149279819 [Report] >>149284896
>>149279667 (OP)
Filtered
Anonymous No.149279866 [Report] >>149281280
>>149279667 (OP)
>left - soulless
>right - soul
Anonymous No.149280052 [Report]
The costumes are a statement.
Anonymous No.149280110 [Report] >>149286088
>>149279667 (OP)
Putting a big lighting bolt on her head is idiotic.
Anonymous No.149281280 [Report]
>>149279866
TPBP
Anonymous No.149282380 [Report] >>149282427 >>149289793
unironically I like this costume. Almost everyone thinkso f electricity as blue or yellow, no one ever thinksto throw fucking green in there. It's iconic.
Anonymous No.149282427 [Report] >>149285154
>>149282380
>How can the reader know he is a bad guy if he doesn't have a secondary color in his outfit?
Anonymous No.149282457 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
Imagine thinking like a Hollywood louse
Anonymous No.149282878 [Report] >>149283182 >>149287691 >>149302899
>>149279667 (OP)
I agree, the Green Goblin should look like this permanently.
Anonymous No.149282898 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
why?
Anonymous No.149283047 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
They should all be black nerds now
Anonymous No.149283114 [Report] >>149285335
>>149279667 (OP)
>People on /co/ still getting filtered by Electro's classic look
I bet you like the Insomniac design, fagboy
Anonymous No.149283182 [Report]
>>149282878
I never understood why his hair just stood up in-between scenes
Anonymous No.149283345 [Report] >>149283646
>>149279667 (OP)
playstation spider man and spectacular got it right by making the "star" mask lighting around his face or just make his entire face/body a perpetual lightning bolt
Anonymous No.149283646 [Report] >>149285755
>>149283345
To be fair, TASM 2 did make him into a perpetual lightning bolt.
Anonymous No.149284896 [Report] >>149286272
>>149279819
shuddup
Anonymous No.149285121 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
I used to think that the classic suits were bad. Now I think that the Spectacular redesigns for the "lame ones" are probably the best, but still worse than the originals. These are comic book characters. Thinking that they must be serious is retarded.
Anonymous No.149285154 [Report] >>149286287
>>149282427
Consider this
>it looks good
Anonymous No.149285335 [Report] >>149285657 >>149286100 >>149286355
>>149283114
I think villains should look evil not like clowns
Anonymous No.149285657 [Report]
>>149285335
But what if the evil villain is also a clown?
Anonymous No.149285755 [Report] >>149286100
>>149283646
I prefer that really, makes Electro a lot more menacing if his entire body is made of pure energy
Anonymous No.149286088 [Report]
>>149280110
Who's head?
Anonymous No.149286100 [Report] >>149297100 >>149297647 >>149297984 >>149299899
>>149279667 (OP)
>>149285335
>>149285755
LOL
Anonymous No.149286272 [Report]
>>149284896
Kys
Anonymous No.149286287 [Report] >>149286319 >>149286373
>>149285154
Except it doesn't
Anonymous No.149286315 [Report] >>149286373 >>149286407 >>149292076 >>149297170
Having his mask be made of actual electricity is so obvious I can't believe it took so long
Anonymous No.149286319 [Report] >>149286335
>>149286287
It does
Anonymous No.149286335 [Report] >>149286336
>>149286319
Mmm it really doesn't
Anonymous No.149286336 [Report]
>>149286335
Yes, fag
Anonymous No.149286355 [Report]
>>149285335
Yeah you just got filtered sorry to hear it
Anonymous No.149286373 [Report] >>149292058
>>149286287
But it doesn't!

>>149286315
I really can't believe that someone thinks that this looks good. Or TASM2. Or Insomniac. Those are the ones that look silly, not the classic one
Anonymous No.149286407 [Report]
>>149286315
The mask just looks out of place with how boring the rest of the design is, and making it a scar like in Insomniac is just as bland.
Spectacular looks good because that's a cartoon, but even then the suit itself is incredibly boring
Anonymous No.149287691 [Report]
>>149282878
He's a cute little Goblin Jr.
Anonymous No.149288787 [Report] >>149289789
>>149279667 (OP)
On the one hand, I do agree that I want Spider-Man in - at least - a good approximation of his classic costume. Likewise Superman, the Flash, etc. But on the other hand, Green Arrow's classic costume is stupid and the modernization attempts, whether we talk Nu52 comics, or Smallville or Arrow, are just more annoying and stupid than anything else. They are just OC Rando's under the classic name of a comic book character at that point.

Likewise, for many villains, it's not just the classic costumes that should be abandoned but their characteristics (e.g. Victor Freeze, King Shark, etc.) that should both go.
Anonymous No.149289789 [Report] >>149291902
>>149288787
>golden age green arrow
>too stupid
It's literally just robin hood.
Anonymous No.149289793 [Report] >>149289855 >>149297230
>>149282380
Steve Ditko coming up with some of the biggest design curveballs is exactly why his designs become as memorable as they are.
Speaking of color, making "Iron Man" red is another big one. The gold was there when he changed the design, but the red/gold became so iconic despite not having anything to do with iron.
Anonymous No.149289855 [Report] >>149290582
>>149279667 (OP)
Anon discovers that what works in drawings may not work in live-action! In other news, anon discovers that grass is green!

>>149289793
>Speaking of color, making "Iron Man" red is another big one. The gold was there when he changed the design, but the red/gold became so iconic despite not having anything to do with iron.
I always figured it had something to do with iron rusting.
Anonymous No.149290582 [Report]
>>149289855
>I always figured it had something to do with iron rusting.
Maybe, but the aesthetic is all about how sleeked and futuristic it is so I'm not sure if the rust(and thus old, shoddy) connection works. Once tech is advanced enough you can start thinking about aesthetics and not just engineering which leads to things like bright red cars
Ditko's Iron Man is dated now, but as a metal armor design it's pretty ground breaking for what it is when so many metal/armored characters were these big, lumbering tanks in greys and blacks.
Anonymous No.149291482 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
Why?
Anonymous No.149291902 [Report] >>149292066 >>149292487
>>149289789
>literally
you are defending this as not a stupid outfit?
you would cosplay at a con in this?
proudly?
without a willingness to remain a virgin for life?
Anonymous No.149291916 [Report] >>149292814
>>149279667 (OP)
Dumb take. Toning down the inherent goofiness of superheroes is just a sign of insecurity.
Anonymous No.149291918 [Report] >>149292076 >>149292097 >>149292239 >>149293147 >>149297100 >>149298438
I know its probably an unpopular opinion around here but I unironically like the Insomniac game reimagining
Anonymous No.149292058 [Report]
>>149286373
Anonymous No.149292066 [Report]
>>149291902
I know a guy who models himself after Robin Hood and he l gets a ton of pussy
Anonymous No.149292076 [Report] >>149292402
>>149291918
This costume
>>149286315
With this lightning mask
Anonymous No.149292097 [Report]
>>149291918
My first thought was Cole MacGrath after having One Bad Day.
Anonymous No.149292239 [Report] >>149292402
>>149291918
crappy edit but I kinda like it
Anonymous No.149292298 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
His design improved immensely when they gave him the yellow electricity mask.
Anonymous No.149292402 [Report]
>>149292076
>>149292239
Would further stress the scars
Anonymous No.149292487 [Report]
>>149291902
Yes, but more importantly you're a faggot for letting whether women like it or not be a deciding factor on what you think is awesome
Anonymous No.149292814 [Report] >>149292986 >>149293229 >>149295291 >>149297100 >>149299101
>>149291916
Nah, you don't need to tone down the aesthetic, just not look retarded.

Electro wouldn't have registered as "cool" in any era, the mask is just too stupid, it looks like something a kid would make at a birthday party out of a paper plate and string.

Picrel is a perfect way to make Electro look like a standard cape character, but also not retarded. And yes this look would have been fine in the 60s too, there's nothing "modernized" about it, it's just less stupid
James Gunn No.149292986 [Report] >>149293229 >>149294304 >>149294323
>>149292814
This looks goofier
Anonymous No.149293147 [Report] >>149294153
>>149291918
He's just a bald dude wearing normal clothes with a boring tech vest on.
Anonymous No.149293229 [Report]
>>149292986
wtf I thought Gunn was retarded
>>149292814
OG Electro best Electro
Anonymous No.149294079 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
I don't like either of these. To me, most Spider-Man characters look best in Ditko's oddball art style.
Anonymous No.149294153 [Report] >>149294185 >>149294207
>>149293147
You can see elements of the original costume, and it illustrates Max's working class roots
Anonymous No.149294185 [Report] >>149294239
>>149294153
Yeah like those working class dudes who wear concept art tech jackets
Anonymous No.149294207 [Report] >>149294239
>>149294153
>elements of the original costume
Because his shirt is yellow and his pants are green?
Anonymous No.149294239 [Report]
>>149294185
He was a lineman and the idea is that with the help of Otto he used what he knew to amplify his powers. It's a bit more "working class" looking because its not a streamlined space age suit or something, or MCU tech whatever
>>149294207
>Scars look like his mask
>Zigzag pattern of the jacket interior over the yellow shirt looks like his lightning decals
>On color scheme
Anonymous No.149294248 [Report] >>149294307 >>149297170
The spectacular Spiderman had a good redesign of Electro.
Anonymous No.149294304 [Report]
>>149292986
Spideyfags are jumping st campfags forever getting dopamine drip from mentally living in the 60s
Anonymous No.149294307 [Report] >>149296538
>>149294248
He looked good in the first season, started looking a bit goofy in the second for some reason.
Anonymous No.149294323 [Report]
>>149292986
J-James?! What are you doing here?
Anonymous No.149294382 [Report] >>149295210
What I'm getting from this is that Spider-Man should be more grounded and realistic
Anonymous No.149295210 [Report]
>>149294382
No, it just shouldn't look retarded
Anonymous No.149295291 [Report]
>>149292814
This is a good redesign.

Electro is some blue collar asshole, and these days usually portrayed as like a bald guy with vaguely punk/rock fashion, so he's probably a racist skinhead, but a guy like that wouldn't wear a flamboyant Liberace suit like the OG's mask gives off
Anonymous No.149296507 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
When the question arose about updating Spider-Man and his villains, that's around the time it should have ended for good.
Anonymous No.149296538 [Report]
>>149294307
the second season had some noticeable changes to the animation overall. Max was the most obvious victim of it
Anonymous No.149296550 [Report]
JUST GIVE HIM A GREEN SHIRT
Anonymous No.149297100 [Report] >>149297589
>>149292814
>>149291918
>>149286100
Why do they keep making him bald?
Anonymous No.149297170 [Report] >>149297216
>>149286315
He is not the first to do it, this series>>149294248 did it first.
Anonymous No.149297216 [Report] >>149297268
>>149297170
That's his actual head, not a mask
Anonymous No.149297230 [Report]
>>149289793
Iron rich soil is reddish
Anonymous No.149297268 [Report]
>>149297216
yeah, you're right
Anonymous No.149297589 [Report]
>>149297100
Ultimate made him bald and it just kinda stuck
Anonymous No.149297647 [Report]
>>149286100
I mean it kinda worked didn't it? he's not just some lousy bastard who can shoot electricity, his very appearance is kinda grotesque and menacing even if he's a jobber
Anonymous No.149297984 [Report]
>>149286100
I kinda liked it, honestly.
Anonymous No.149298065 [Report]
>>149279667 (OP)
Its weird since I always liked Electros costume

I may be biased because I've been seeing that EXACT image of Electro on the right since 2003, from the marvel handbook my dad got me

It had An Alex Ross painting on it, if any of yall remember
Anonymous No.149298292 [Report] >>149298343
Its not just Spiderman villains, i think like half of the X-Men's rogues gallery need an update to their costumes
Anonymous No.149298343 [Report]
>>149298292
toads had a lot of looks, isn't he kind of an abandoned character by now?
Anonymous No.149298354 [Report] >>149298364 >>149299911
>>149279667 (OP)
ask yourself this question
should a guy dressed like this fight a bunch of guys dressed in black military gear or a bunch of kooky criminals in colorful suits?
Anonymous No.149298364 [Report] >>149298390
>>149298354
Spider-Man doesn't look silly, he looks cool. It's why his costume has never had to change while most other heroes, have.

His villains on the other hand....do not look cool a lot of the time, they look nerdy, clownish, or even gay
Anonymous No.149298390 [Report] >>149298418 >>149299097
>>149298364
>Spider-Man doesn't look silly,
he does actually
Superheroes in general look inherintely silly
its part of the appeal of the genre, a bunch of adults in skin tight costumes fighting crime instead of becoming cops
Spider-man is a childs fantasy, a nerds idea to be a superhero, his rogues gallary should reflect that and people who think heroes should look ''cool'' or ''realistic'''should neck themselves
Anonymous No.149298418 [Report] >>149298437 >>149299225
>>149298390
Spider-Man doesn't look silly, he looks cool, because he looks sinister. Even though his character isn't that, he looks it. His eyes look angry and his face is hidden, it's the same reason ninjas are considered cool. It's why characters designed only to be "cool" like Spawn, Deadpool, and Deathstroke, all steal from Spider-Man.
Anonymous No.149298437 [Report] >>149298905 >>149299079 >>149299911 >>149301685
>>149298418
>Spider-Man doesn't look silly, he looks cool, because he looks sinister
yeah real sinister a guy with gian eyes, a bright red and blue costume and a giant cartoony spider on his chest and back
Ditko never intended Spider-man to be ''sinister''
Anonymous No.149298438 [Report]
>>149291918
Most of them has cool-looking designs.
Anonymous No.149298452 [Report] >>149299911 >>149299960
Without the Webbing and Logo Peter is just -Man
Anonymous No.149298647 [Report] >>149298905 >>149299256
why do people have a problem with bright colorful characters having villians that reflect that
do you really think it works design wise to have a colorful goofy looking hero fight a bunch of grey mercs in overdesigned armor?
Anonymous No.149298905 [Report] >>149299094
>>149298437
He looks like a ninja, and ninjas are sinister, is what it is.

>>149298647
It's not about the colors or brightness, it's about having a stupid looking mask
Anonymous No.149299079 [Report] >>149301685
>>149298437
>Ditko never intended Spider-man to be ''sinister''
I'm almost positive that's false
Anonymous No.149299094 [Report] >>149299106 >>149299166
>>149298905
Kys edgetroon
Anonymous No.149299097 [Report] >>149299120
>>149298390
No kid wanted Electro. They'd rather have Doc Ock, and he's a fat guy with a bowlcut
Anonymous No.149299101 [Report] >>149299106
>>149292814
>Electro wouldn't have registered as "cool" in any era

Good. I don't want my comic books to look cool. I want them to look stupid and goofy.
Anonymous No.149299106 [Report] >>149299111 >>149299123
>>149299094
>>149299101
Samefag
Anonymous No.149299111 [Report]
>>149299106
Wrong anon, autistic faggot
Anonymous No.149299120 [Report]
>>149299097
>They'd rather have Doc Ock,
speak for yourself
Mysterio always has and always will be the coolest Spider-man villian and he has a fucking fishbowl head
Anonymous No.149299123 [Report]
>>149299106
Curious, what about those two posts made ou think they were from the same anon? You're wrong btw.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299166 [Report] >>149299172
>>149299094
If you're not edgy in this day and age, you're a gay tranny. I like hitler, satan, and murdering gays and minorities
Anonymous No.149299172 [Report] >>149299226
>>149299166
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149299225 [Report]
>>149298418
>His eyes look angry and his face is hidden
His eyes emote like a cartoon character what the fuck are you talking about
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299226 [Report] >>149299303 >>149299547
>>149299172
Go watch Batman BATB you camp drag show loving fruit.
Anonymous No.149299256 [Report] >>149299267
>>149298647
Max's mask gives him an iconic silhouette that will always beat out "some bald dude". There's a reason that no redesign for him as ever stuck
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299267 [Report] >>149299303 >>149299315 >>149299320 >>149299352
>>149299256
>There's a reason that no redesign for him as ever stuck
Yeah, Spideyfags are cringe and stuck in the 60s pocket protector era. And most Spideyfags don't want the series to be cooler, they want it to be "cornier", a silly SoL romp. That's fucking awful and is exactly why Batman curbstomps Spidey in popularity
Anonymous No.149299303 [Report] >>149299317
>>149299226
>>149299267
Keep seething troon
Anonymous No.149299315 [Report]
>>149299267
>That's fucking awful and is exactly why Batman curbstomps Spidey in popularity
lol
this guy is mentally stuck in the 2000's
that explains alot
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299317 [Report] >>149299334 >>149299562 >>149299585
>>149299303
Carnage is a better character than Kraven, Vulture, Sandman, and Mysterio. Sorry queer, straight males don't like faggot characters in dragshow outfits.
Anonymous No.149299320 [Report]
>>149299267
Spider-Man is corny. Trying to make it edgy or cool just wreaks of tryhard desperation.
Anonymous No.149299334 [Report] >>149299564
>>149299317
im just glad fags like you will always be stuck in irrelevancy while my campy villians keep coming back and continue to be based
Anonymous No.149299352 [Report]
>>149299267
speaking of Batman, his villians where much better when they where campy comic book fun
>oh no Joker, just blew up another orphanage while screeching about society
boring
>OH SHIT JOKER IS ATTACKING BATMAN WITH FISH GUNS HOW WILL THE CAPED CRUSADER GET OUT OF THIS ONE?
B A S E D
Anonymous No.149299547 [Report]
>>149299226
how is recommending he watch a great show an insult? Suppose the last half counts but you overdid it with repetition which makes it come off poorly on your end.
Anonymous No.149299562 [Report] >>149299583
>>149299317
how is Carnage a better character when he's even less of a character then all the guys you mentioned even on an individual by individual basis? Like they all have developed motives, backstory, enjoyable personalities, interests and character arcs over the years while Carnage despite being entertaining in how utterly depraved he is, is utterly shallow as he just loves killing with really nothing else going for him and is one note with the most depth he has being his dynamic with the Symbiote.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299564 [Report] >>149299576 >>149299584 >>149299689
>>149299334
>im just glad fags like you will always be stuck in irrelevancy while my campy villians keep coming back and continue to be based
The last Spider-Man related stories anyone has cared about at all were Venom Inc, Venomverse, Absolute Carnage, Mega Carnage, Carnage Assfucks the Universe edition, etc etc, and Red Goblin Gold Goblin blah blah

All Spideys other characters have become nothing but jobbers, there ARE no modern good Electro or Rhino stories, and nobody wants to buy them, and nobody cares about the soap elements anymore. Symbiotes and Normans constant over exposure today proves Marvel knows what's popular, now if only they still had any talent
Anonymous No.149299576 [Report]
>>149299564
>The last Spider-Man related stories anyone has cared about at all were Venom Inc, Venomverse, Absolute Carnage, Mega Carnage, Carnage Assfucks the Universe edition, etc etc, and Red Goblin Gold Goblin blah blah
literally no one cares about those stories
they even had to do spiderverse vs venomverse because so few people cared they needed a sales bump from attaching the spiderverse name and still no one cares
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299583 [Report] >>149299650
>>149299562
>Like they all have developed motives, backstory, enjoyable personalities
Lol no they don't, you just don't like that Carnage's motives backstory etc are evil and grim. Vulture and Electro have no reason to be villains especially after getting their asses beat 100000 times because they're just not good at it.
>i am......motivated by robbing banks, for no reason at all, other than mildly feeling cheated or like a loser
Carnage is a serial killer, he is sadistic because his brain is literally wired wrong, and on top of that, he had an abusive childhood ifyou MUST go into such trite shit, he was an orphan who killed his family members etc, his origin is much deeper than "i was a loser, i touched magic rice, and became riceman where i create rice from my ass and use it to rob banks because i'm kinda a lazy douche"
Anonymous No.149299584 [Report]
>>149299564
Flowers for Rhino and Endangered Species are pretty good modern stories of Aleksei Sytsevich.
Anonymous No.149299585 [Report] >>149299620
>>149299317
>Carnage is a better character
he is barely a character trannyfaggot, his entire personality is "I must kill and that's it" he's the most boring one-note symbiote character to the point where even Knull is more interesting
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299620 [Report] >>149299656 >>149299687
>>149299585
>im scared of killers
Yeah, live in your safe space just like you're scared of racism. You probably like Magneto and Dr. Doom, fag
Anonymous No.149299650 [Report] >>149299676
>>149299583
I like grim and evil characters depending but Carnage/Cletus Kassidy genuinely has nothing else going for him beyond being a massive murderer who's over the top. Like he has no actual other hobbies or things to make him interesting beyond his threat level. Mysterio/Quentin Beck loves movies wether to watch or to make them which factors into his theming as a villain and that despite all the crime he commits that's mostly what he wanted to do almost settling back into it even befriending Mary Jane in Spencer's Run until Otto drags him back into the villain life. Vulture/Adrian Toomes is a hateful bitter old man that gleefully uses others but feels he's owed while being a genuinely good engineer plus having family that he cares for but his life style ultimately pushes them away from him and Electro is a dumb regular asshole saddled with an inferiority complex from being coddled by his mum to much and wastes his incredible power on petty shit since he's to emotional and falls into the same patterns cause he's a short sighted thug. While he's also pretty shallow there's still more like him being a former lineman/electrician or managing to gain a genuine relationship with his old girlfriend that took his mantle, powers and life once.
Anonymous No.149299656 [Report]
>>149299620
I like Kang, he's cool. He once destroyed Washington and also threatened to shoot a pregnant Jessica Jones with a toybiz looking future gun.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299676 [Report] >>149299703 >>149299806
>>149299650
Carnages known hobbies and personality traits
>smart ass
>dark humor
>cynical
>self obsessed and preening
>immature, yet crafty
>rock/metal music (old carnage)
>country/southern rock (new carnage)
>being kind of a delinquent on steroids
>basically the worst case scenario of the wrong person getting a lot of power, at least for everyone else

Now....I can't name these details about other Spidey rogues, and if I can, too many of them share the same traits to be worth mentioning
>down on his luck schmuck who got powers
>occasionally is sick of getting beat up and wants to be better
>always goes back to robbing banks like a lazy written character, and lazy person in society
You can try to add more words to differentiate them but Electro, Rhino, and Sandman are all the same guy for all intents and purposes
Anonymous No.149299687 [Report]
>>149299620
both of them kill hundred times as much as Carnage does despite the Carange symbiote literally being the most efficient killer in theory out of the three. Carnage is literally an edgy jobber with all bark and no bite, perpetually stuck in the 90s like half this board
Anonymous No.149299689 [Report] >>149299710 >>149300593 >>149300627
>>149299564
>claims modern Spider-man villians have no good stories
>continues to name a bunch of symbioteslop
irony lost on him it seems
Green Goblin and Sandman have more good stories than Venom has comics
Anonymous No.149299703 [Report] >>149299720 >>149299782
>>149299676
>other villians
fun and varied powersets that give Spidey a unique challenge with every character, unique costume designs
>Carnage
Venom but edgier
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299710 [Report] >>149299755
>>149299689
Well that's not true. But Goblin is a symbiote, for all intents and purposes. He's the middle ground between the corny villains and the 80s-90s villains.

And that's why Marvel only prints villain centric stories about either Green Goblin, or symbiotes
Anonymous No.149299720 [Report] >>149299815
>>149299703
it's funny because Carnage's whole shtick used to be his ability to form weapons and fight with deadly tendrils while Venom was just a big bulky dude. but pop culture and other adaptations gave all those things to Venom too, which means Carnage is literally just Venom but evil, skinny, and edgier
Anonymous No.149299755 [Report] >>149299815
>>149299710
>. But Goblin is a symbiote,
not anymore, even that was a phase that came and went, only there to boost the popularity of carnage who at the time was a unused symbiote without host
>And that's why Marvel only prints villain centric stories about either Green Goblin, or symbiotes
and once again wrong.
not even counting the many times Kraven had entire stories dedicated to himself, take Hobgoblin who regularly comes back, the shocker who had a great thing going with superior foes, Mysterio being a major player in Spencers Spider-man, Tombstone, The Lizard, these villians all where major players in Spider-man stories of the last decade
Anonymous No.149299782 [Report]
>>149299703
>Venom but edgier

I'd say he's Venom but badly wants people to think he's edgier.
Anonymous No.149299806 [Report]
>>149299676
I'll give you this on actually pointing out defined traits on Carnage but knock for downplaying and incorrectly just saying the other rogues are the same. Electro doesn't have russian heritage or a wife he lost to someone trying to take his villain identity like Rhino, Rhino has never been a former Avenger, had a daughter or got on with the Thing like Sandman and so on. You might actually be able to give details on Spidey's other rogues if you actually read anything with them, you've got like 62 years worth of story give or take and like 30 or more writers takes on the specific characters to see what's consistent and what isn't.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299815 [Report] >>149299843 >>149299905
>>149299720
Nah, even in the live action movies, Venom can't make weapons.

The closest thing to that ever happening, was a couple 90s comic crossovers where the writer clearly didn't read the Venom issues.

>>149299755
Carnage is more popular than Green Goblin, this is why he sells more action figures. But really, Venom is the comparison, because Venom sells the most merch with Spider-Man and Deadpool beside him.
Anonymous No.149299843 [Report] >>149299860
>>149299815
unironically except for the "Venom without Spider-Man" bullshit the Venom trilogy is great for being accurate to comics that other adaptations ignore, like Venom being a silly goofball or him being unable to make weapons like Carnage can. when the first trailer dropped with the CGI for Venom's face I knew I was in for a treat no matter how bad the rest of the film was gonna be
>Carnage is more popular than Green Goblin
this is stupid as fuck though
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299860 [Report] >>149300229
>>149299843
I was being a little reaching with that, but honestly, I feel like there have been way more Carnage figures than Green Goblin figures, and if there is any way to accurately measure popularity, it's sales

>unironically except for the "Venom without Spider-Man" bullshit the Venom trilogy is great for being accurate to comics that other adaptations ignore, like Venom being a silly goofball or him being unable to make weapons like Carnage can. when the first trailer dropped with the CGI for Venom's face I knew I was in for a treat no matter how bad the rest of the film was gonna be
Well yeah, I kinda feel like if you combined SM3 Venom and Solo Venom, you'd have pretty much a perfect film adaptation of the character, both got things right, or at least accurate to the source, that the other didn't
Anonymous No.149299899 [Report]
>>149286100
This inspired HBO's Doctor Manhattan, I'm sure of it
Anonymous No.149299905 [Report] >>149299937 >>149299954
>>149299815
>Carnage is more popular than Green Goblin,
LOL
LMAO EVEN
this nigger really thinks Carnage can go up against storming Norman
in every book
every universe
every adaptation
Carnage was just a side villian for Peter
Norman is and will always be the endgame
Anonymous No.149299911 [Report] >>149299950
>>149298452
>>149298437
>>149298354
There should be a Spidey design with "Rider tears" underneath the eyes
Anonymous No.149299914 [Report] >>149299947 >>149299967
>>149279667 (OP)
Instead of taking a child's thing and trying to edge it up to satisfy your suppressed manhood, maybe you should spend your time consuming media that's actually for adults.
Anonymous No.149299937 [Report]
>>149299905
I'm genuinely not sure if I prefer that Osborn is fully composed and just acts like a maniacal over the top bomb throwing villain either as an outlet or that he's genuinely mentally ill and that his other persona actively sabotages and fights for control against him. Both offer a lot of interesting personality and just make for great character moments in comics or the adaptions.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299947 [Report]
>>149299914
I was born in the 80s, adult and kid media was the same during my childhood.
Anonymous No.149299950 [Report] >>149299968
>>149299911
I'd fuck with a Spider-man but with a Kamen Rider design motif for him and his rogues gallery. Though I'd kill even more for a Hank Pym/Giant-man Ultraman esque show where he fights kaiju, aliens and villains from Marvel redesigned to look utterly Tsuburaya, not picky if it'd be showa, Heisei or New Gen in aesthetic.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149299954 [Report] >>149299973 >>149299975 >>149299989
>>149299905
One of these days I'm going to make a collage of all the Spider-Man games with a counter showing how many of them Venom is front and center on.

Spoiler, it's way more than any other villain.
Anonymous No.149299960 [Report]
>>149298452
Oh hey it's PS1 Spider-Man!
Anonymous No.149299967 [Report]
>>149299914
Shut up troon
Anonymous No.149299968 [Report] >>149299983
>>149299950
Not full motif but maybe elements, like the tears under the eyes, maybe make the eye shape an homage to Black RX, web scarf
MCU costumes already rip off the design language of KR Kabuto
Anonymous No.149299973 [Report]
>>149299954
I mean no one is arguing against Venom's popularity and sheer push. I like Venom a lot even if I wish other Spidey villains got to be playable in stuff like MVC, Rivals, Cosmic Invasion or the upcoming Arcsys fighter.
Anonymous No.149299975 [Report]
>>149299954
how many of them where made after 1999?
hard mode: no Ultimate Spider-man
Anonymous No.149299983 [Report]
>>149299968
ah admittedly I was thinking full on new gen Toei Spider-man lol. Making his rogues gallery into Kaijin or evil rider designs would be a ton of fun. Honestly you do have a point on that sorta costuming and design style would probably work better for an upgraded Spidey suit then a lot of recent comic attempts at new costumes for him.
Anonymous No.149299989 [Report] >>149300014
>>149299954
its funny how in the modern day, most people are still talking about how good GG was in No Way Home and who Norman should be played by in the MCU while al the discussion around venom basicly comes down to people just wanting to see the black suit
the only company on your side is Sony and those guys are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to Spidey characters they own
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300014 [Report] >>149300051
>>149299989
Lol

Real Spider-Man fans don't like MCU Spider-Man, because it's not anything like the comics. MCU fans aren't Marvel fans. And Venom's first movie, probably sold more tickets opening than any superhero movie that wasn't funded by Disney or had "Batman" in the title

A Green Goblin movie wouldn't do that, at all, and I'm probably a bigger Goblin fan than you because I like the comics, not the movies.
Anonymous No.149300051 [Report] >>149300060
>>149300014
who the fuck wants to see a Green Goblin movie? most people want to see Green Goblin being a absolute menace to Spider-man, same shit with Venom, most people went to see the first movie for the possibility on Spider-man appearing, wich is why no one cared about the sequels
and dont you ''no true comic fan me'' you where the one who started going on about adaptations like videogames
Anyone who's read a serious amount of Spider-man comics wouldnt say with a straight face that Venom is their favorite Spider-man character, hell id put Hypno Hustler even above Venom because atleast he has a fun gimmick.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300060 [Report] >>149300103
>>149300051
>same shit with Venom,
No, sorry. I love Spider-Man vs. Venom but I, and most 90s kids, would be perfectly fine if the two never met

Venom stands on his own, and if you disagree, theres no way you aren't either a boomer (not likely) or zoomer who "got into" Marvel via MCU. Venom defines 90s childhood way more than Spider-Man himself does
Anonymous No.149300103 [Report] >>149300111 >>149300117
>>149300060
hey i grew up during the Venom craze too, i like the character but when you read era's like Conway,Ster, DeMattis or hell even Stranziski's Spider-man id be hard pressed to find a Venom story even half as good as Harry's Green Goblin arc.
And thats the thing. i like Venom but im old enough to see he was a product of the times, a time when edgy anti heroes where becoming the norm and Venom was the convinient edgy Spider-man Marvel needed
Anonymous No.149300104 [Report] >>149300117
Venom sucks. "What if superhero...but EVILLLLLL" is Sonic-level autism. Carnage is just an even more autistic Venom.
Anonymous No.149300111 [Report]
>>149300103
*Stern*
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300117 [Report] >>149300123 >>149300132
>>149300104
You're not straight are you

>>149300103
Venom stories weren't about great story telling, they were about coolness. But at the end of the day, not one single comic book to me has great story telling. You want that, read the bible or Greek myth
Anonymous No.149300123 [Report] >>149300130
>>149300117
>You're not straight are you
Straight enough to know that Venom is autism.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300130 [Report] >>149300139 >>149300142
>>149300123
Venom is pretty stereotypically "cool", if you like Vulture now that's autism
>i dont like killer aliens, i'm into old men in green pajamas specifically
Anonymous No.149300132 [Report]
>>149300117
>Venom stories weren't about great story telling, they were about coolness
ah i see
well i like story in a comic so to me, Venom really isnt all that great.
and even then when it comes to cool factor, characters like Wolverine, Punisher and Ghost Rider where alot better and had good stories to go along the coolness
Anonymous No.149300139 [Report] >>149300152
>>149300130
I used to think Venom was cool too, when I was 11 in 1990. Thankfully I grew up.
Anonymous No.149300142 [Report] >>149300152
>>149300130
>i dont like old men with vendetta's
>give me giant tenticle pornbait
/d/ is that way
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300152 [Report] >>149300159 >>149300162
>>149300139
You grew up into a beta male who doesn't get laid, gratz

>>149300142
Sorry I was born in the 80s, not the 90s, dark shit is cool to me, your idea of cool is wrong
Anonymous No.149300159 [Report] >>149300180 >>149300182
>>149300152
You were born in the 80s and still think Venom is cool? Christ.
Anonymous No.149300162 [Report] >>149300182
>>149300152
>this nigger is in his 40's talking like this
>with a username like that
>about getting layed
sure man, i bet your tentacle pornbait got you lots of chicks at the bar
Anonymous No.149300180 [Report] >>149300203
>>149300159
nta, but I like Venom because of how goofy and cheesy it is. I acknowledge that he isn't cool, I just can't resist a villain who's catchphrase is "I WANT TO EAT YOUR BRAIN". It's goofy and fun.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300182 [Report] >>149300194 >>149300218
>>149300162
I'm not a zoomer, all the hot girls my age were/are "goth", your life is bad

>>149300159
Yeah and this is why IRL you'd be scared to confront me and be mad I'm with hot broads, because you don't think Venom, an absolute alpha male, is cool
Anonymous No.149300194 [Report] >>149300202
>>149300182
Personally, I try to impress the ladies by showing off my collection of Shadow the Hedgehog plushies. That always gets them wet.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300202 [Report] >>149300206
>>149300194
>Shadow
Yeah the defining difference between Millennial edge and Gen Z edge in a nutshell. Nobody thinks Shadow is threatening, because he doesn't kill anybody, he's Linkin Park and the only girls who like Linkin Park are sheltered suburbanite autistics
Anonymous No.149300203 [Report]
>>149300180
Venom was always more appealing as a toy than he was as a character.
Anonymous No.149300206 [Report] >>149300214
>>149300202
Gen X here. Millennials and Gen Z are both equally pussies. I'd dunk both of your books.
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300214 [Report] >>149300222
>>149300206
Lol Gen X is pussy because you homos likes lib politics.

Who remembers L7? Nobody
Anonymous No.149300218 [Report] >>149300235
>>149300182
man i was from this era and unless you literally looked like Bam Margera or Ville Valo, you wernt getting any girls panties out by showing your Venom collection
hell most chicks who where into any nerd shit where into anime at that point
Anonymous No.149300222 [Report] >>149300236
>>149300214
No. Gen X doesn't like any politics. Millennials are the libs. Gen Z are the chuds. Gen X is too busy getting high and enjoying life to give a fuck.
Anonymous No.149300229 [Report]
>>149299860
>I feel like there have been way more Carnage figures than Green Goblin figures
but that's barely a metric though, Goblin has like five times the appearances Carnage has in adaptations, is a central villain and one of Spidey's "big 3", possibly even #1. on top of that his story with Spidey has decades of history and even their civilian identities are interlinked. Carnage may sell more toys or whatever but Goblin is a lot more culturally iconic, Carnage to most folks is just "red Venom"
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300235 [Report]
>>149300218
Nah....that's not true. The biggest shit was 80s nostalgia for fake nerd girls and guys. Transformers and Thundercats t-shirts etc, edgy villain logos. Comic books were cool but not if you displayed your full power level, Batman and Venom hoodies were most common

Anime in the early 00s, for pre teens/teens, was pure sperg shit. Only the fat ugly girl was into Sailor Moon
Anonymous No.149300236 [Report] >>149300246
>>149300222
>pathetic Gen X is hyping himself up on 4chan just to feel something
KWAB
Anonymous No.149300246 [Report] >>149300533
>>149300236
The reason millennials are so angry is because they're poor and will never be able to afford a house. The reason why Gen Z is so angry is because they're tired of listening to millennials' whiny bullshit.
Anonymous No.149300286 [Report] >>149300304
>the edgefag got so angry he had to make another thread
i honestly cant imagine a fate worse than being a 40's something loser defending the honor of your favorite 90's slop character on a chinese basket weaving forum
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300304 [Report] >>149300322
>>149300286
I'm about to make another one, and I'm 35, asian beta zoomer newfag reddit migrant
Anonymous No.149300322 [Report] >>149300348 >>149300360
>>149300304
go ahead lol
dont open the spoiler, major jumpscare
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300348 [Report] >>149300351
>>149300322
Idk what that is but zoomers have it way worse than Millennials. You "people' listen to rap exclusively, don't read books, can't tell directions without a robot telling you where to go.....it's why your gen is defined by drug addiction and "queen of spades" fetish
Anonymous No.149300351 [Report]
>>149300348
>Idk what that is
of course you don't
Anonymous No.149300360 [Report]
>>149300322
>Idk what that is
Anonymous No.149300533 [Report] >>149300555
>>149300246
Gen Z aren't only tired of millennials' whining, it's that they also have the exact same problems because millennials are still too stuck up on Harry Potter and other shit to actually do something about it
Anonymous No.149300555 [Report] >>149300590
>>149300533
>it's that they also have the exact same problems because millennials

They do, but they're too young and dumb to realize they're all going to be homeless and starving by the time they're as old as millennials. They still live with their parents and will continue to live relatively comfortably until their parents start dying, then they'll be fucked. Then they'll just be Millennials 2.0, whining about the rich and boomers.
Anonymous No.149300590 [Report] >>149300719 >>149300741
>>149300555
They're already fucked because the number one fetish of Gen Z is BLACKED porn
Anonymous No.149300593 [Report] >>149300627
>>149299689
Anything post-Byrne is not a good Sandman story
DeathMetal6S6S6 No.149300627 [Report]
>>149300593
>>149299689
Good villains aren't defined by having a secret hero side. This is why zoomers are gay

Aladdin > Frozen
Anonymous No.149300719 [Report] >>149300741
>>149300590
anon the only people obsessed with blacked porn unironically are the Gen X'ers on this site, for zoomers it's more about the memes than anything else
Anonymous No.149300741 [Report] >>149300764 >>149301336
>>149300719
>>149300590
Blacked porn isn't a generational thing, it's a regional thing. Rednecks and bible thumpers in the southern/landlocked areas of the US are the ones who like that shit.
Anonymous No.149300764 [Report]
>>149300741
trvke!
Anonymous No.149301336 [Report] >>149301383 >>149302262
>>149300741
I think it was found that Indians from India were most into that shit.
Anonymous No.149301383 [Report]
>>149301336
No no, your right
Anonymous No.149301685 [Report]
>>149299079
>>149298437
Ditko hated edgy comics. Which is ironic because of his Mr. A and things like that, but he stated it repeatedly throughout the years.
Anonymous No.149302262 [Report]
>>149301336
Indians prefer porn of their own middle aged men and women fucking and recording on outdated Nokia phone cameras, the whole "jeets love bbc" thing is just 4chan cope, the call is sadly coming from inside the house
Anonymous No.149302899 [Report]
>>149282878
That's me