I grew up in the most soulless generation for pop culture. 2007-2012 was dark age for comics, movies, music, tv, video games etc.
Video Games: Brown and bloom, Japanese and PC gaming in a creative decline, DLCs, Wii, microtransactions, most games from this era being mediocre or downright shitty
Movies: Endless as fuck remakes/sequels, shitty comedy/parody/Happy Madison movies, horror was in a creative drought, very little creativity in those 5 years
TV: CN starts airing shitty canadian shows like Total Drama, Johnny Test, George of The Jungle, Skunk Fu, Chop Socky Chooks,Sidekick, Scaredy Squirrel, reality tv clogging up every network like MTV, TLC and the History Channel. Horrible seasons of once good shows like LOST, 24 and Heroes and all the shitty Disney Channel/Nickelodeon sitcoms
Music: Shitty rappers/autotuned crap like Soulja Boy, Justin Beiber and One Direction
The less said about comics the better
2013 was a transitional period, but since 2014 all these mediums have drastically gotten better delivering us memorable stuff unlike the 2007-12 era which was a cultural wasteland, I feel jealous for kids growing up today.
t.born in 1999
>>149283889 (OP)I was a poorfag and mostly consumed early 2000s media as a result.
>>149283889 (OP)The torrent of slop that's passed for culture since 2014 makes that era look like the 90s
>>149283889 (OP)maybe it's my nostalgia speaking, but i always thought that was the last generation with sovl
>>149283889 (OP)You sound like an insufferable whiner. There's plenty to appreciate from that era
>>149283889 (OP)I was born in 97 and you're mostly correct except the indie blog scene for music was still going strong at that time, it was pre corporate media buyouts and poptimism demanding Pitchfork take Taylor Swift bullshit seriously. Pop music has in some ways been improved since that era but quality alternative music is much less visible because everyone just discusses the same things and nobody believes in the value of cliques and niches
>>149283889 (OP)1996 here, I fully agree with you on everything on that list.
However, the way shit has gone now makes
>>149284167 ‘s point more poignant.
>>149283889 (OP)2010s: Death of action cartoons. Proliferation of CalArt and noodle arm cartoons. Everything is ironic and full of MCU quips.
I prefer the edge from the 2000s. Blackest Night was great. So were the Star Wars prequels. The less said about the sequels the better. During the 2000s, Geoff Johns delivered the definitive Green Lantern run.
>>149283889 (OP)It gave us Kino Time so all's well
If you were a little kid I guess, but I was born in 89 and the years you're complaining about were some of the best of my life
>>149283889 (OP)>Horrible seasons of once good shows like LOSTI'm going to go ahead and argue against this. Lost was never good, you just couldn't see it until the later seasons. Early Lost pulled you in and got popular by building up questions that it never actually had any answers to. As such, when it came time to pay off those questions with answers, which never existed, it had to make up a bunch of bullshit to try to justify the build-up.
When writing a mystery, you need to work backwards. You need to know where your story is going to end up, so that you can then explore how the truth became obscured and how the characters navigate towards the truth.
1997 here and I always felt it was remarkable that everything I knew turned to total shit around 2005-07. Usually people say “you just grew up” but I would’ve been in the target demographic for all the inferior crap they tried to put out during this era.
I remember absolutely fucking hating that “Fried Dynamite” shit CN replaced Fridays with.
>>149283889 (OP)Did zoomers really forget that Michael Jackson died in 09? Or the beginning of the end of mobile phones started that year thanks to the iPhone? Or the fact that online games were actually built to be fun?? What about early Youtube?
>>149285623Unfortunately Tumblrfags fucked it up
>>149283889 (OP)>The less said about comics the betterThere was SOME good stuff in comics from 2007 to 2012. There's been almost nothing since then.
>>149283889 (OP)Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to argue with me if I say something wrong here:
But I think around that time corporations got it into their head that media technology would end the "quality vs quantity" dilemma by making the quantity option insanely cheap. I would argue that in 2007-2015, a lot of the crap content still at least had the decency to be immersive and feel real. Now everything is fast-paced, 2-dimensional, and flows with the subtlety of a metronome... so as to ensure maximum "bingability". I remember cartoons still feeling like a window into another world, even if they were shit.
>>1492857412005-2007 had Foster's Home, Camp Lazlo, Grim Adventures.
>>149285741Yeah, I hated most media from this era too. That's why I usually watched old cartoons, or tried going online instead. God, this era sucked to be a kid.
>>149288214Grim started 4 years earlier, Fosters was probably the best of the new shows, and Lazlo was thoroughly mid.
No era is truly devoid of at least one good show, but mid 2000s CN absolutely fucking paled in comparison to what came before. For every Fosters there was like 10 fucking Canadian shows.
Even the bumpers and branding became more juvenile and annoying with all that Cheese and Fred Fredburger shit. Robotboy and Gym Partner sucked too.
>>149288770>For every Fosters there was like 10 fucking Canadian shows.I think we might have just figured out the issue.
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>>149288789The priorities of the network got totally fucked up. I hated almost everything they were playing except for maybe 2 shows, and I was 9 in 2007. It wasn’t a problem of growing up, it was a lack of quality programming. They tried becoming more like Nickelodeon or Disney channel too, with that ReAnimated horseshit movie. Even the live action Friday’s was more juvenile and Nick-adjacent, and that premiered in 2004.
>>149283889 (OP)I remember every video game between 2004-2013 had space marines, quicktime events, and a color scheme that ranged from brown to grey. I hated it - screenshots of Fallout 3 could be used as a cheap depressant (but at least that game had the excuse of taking place in a bombed-out wasteland.)
>>149288912I partially believe that the reason why Valve got so much of a cult following was because they were one of the only companies making actually decent games during that shitty period.
>>149288912>I partially believe that the reason why Valve got so much of a cult following was because they were one of the only companies making actually decent games during that shitty period.Team Fortress 2 especially seemed to be a protest against how colorless and lifeless most games looked at that point.
>>149288912I partially believe that the reason why Valve got so much of a cult following was because they were one of the only companies making actually decent games during that shitty period.
Team Fortress 2 especially seemed to be a protest against how colorless and lifeless most games looked at that point.
>>149288971Yeah, could you imagine if they'd stuck with the Beta designs for TF2? Yeesh.
>>149288977I remember when Minecraft was gaining steam, that was also a massive breakthrough, because it also didn't look colorless and dull, and it was actually fun to play.
>>149283889 (OP)>Movies: Endless as fuck remakes/sequels, shitty comedy/parody/Happy Madison moviesTo be fair, those were the result of certain 90s and early 00s movies getting popular like American Pie or Scary movie. A lot of the best comedy writing during that time went straight to tv.
>Music: Shitty rappers/autotuned crap like Soulja Boy, Justin Beiber and One DirectionOh come on, all you'd have to do is listen to music outside of radio to know that music was still pretty good during that time.
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>>149283889 (OP)You guys had the PS2 and the best version of Tomb Raider to grow up with, though
I was in high school back then
>>149289165You have a point, but it can still be said that the shit of the late 2000s was boldly shitty and attention grabbingly shitty. So i dont think its entirely unreasonable for someone to fixate on it and let it define their perception of the decade, even though you do have some accountability to explore if you're gonna complain.
>>149283889 (OP)If you think that's dark ages, I wonder if we haven't left that dark age at all or if we're currently on an ever darker age
>>149283889 (OP)>self-hating zoomerFaggot. We're in the dark age RIGHT NOW.
>>149289228>it can still be said that the shit of the late 2000s was boldly shitty and attention grabbingly shittyA movie like Jennifer's Body (2009) wouldn't be made today despite the fact that we're more "feminist" than ever.
A show like Spectacular Spider-Man (2008) would never be produced today.
A film like The Princess and the Frog (2009) would never be greenlit today.
>>149289294>We're in the dark age RIGHT NOW.More or less. There was no AIslopocalypse on the horizon and Obama was in office.
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>>149283889 (OP)>I grew up in the most soulless generation for pop culture.I can't tell if the 4 panel comic era is more soulless or if it's soulful but the bad kind of soul, but it's definitely a dark age for creativity and happiness.
>since 2014 all these mediums have drastically gotten better>t.born in 1999So since you were 15 you started to have consistent memories of the things you watched, became gay, and because when you look back the cutoff for agreeing with current politics (aggressive confrontational tone/toxic socialising, womyn power, patheticness is a virtue) is around that point, you think anything before then is automatically worse even though it's the same 70% slop, 29% slop but with a forced NPC fanbase, 1% good?
>>149285699Nah, Lost is great show and ending was fine. Only plebs got filtered
>Hire Stuart Snyder after Boston Bomb Scare
>Worked for Vince McMahon
>Yes, that Vincent Kennedy McMahon
>Probably brainrotted after working him for several years
>Decides to kill the identity of the channel by canceling literally everything and replace it with "reality" shows starring kids who can't act.
>Channel still hasn't recovered and is literally about to die
It's been a wild ride CN bros.
Started watching Cartoon Network back when it first started. It began to suck when that black rapper Andre 3000 or whatever the fuck his name is had his own stupid ass cartoon show. Cartoon Network officially died that day and year, it never came back after that.
>>149290133Class of 3000 is good you faggot. It had more soul than any cartoon today.
Comparing it to today's shitty cartoons just proves the point that it was always shitty, Regular show had a little bit more class than today's cartoons. That would have been a more coherent and intelligent answer.
>>149290159This. CN fell off hard after Toonami got canned in 08
>>149283889 (OP)I was a kid during that era and I got to say, as someone who watched Cartoon Network growing up, they were mediocre. The only good show from that era was Chowder.
t. born in 2000
ITT: self hating zoomers failing to realize how good they had it back then
>>149290427You're saying that to me and not OP?
Do you know where we are?
>>149283889 (OP)It went from awful, to having 4 massively successful shows running all at once through the 2010's to complete irrelevancy as it slowly gets eaten up by a toddler schedule, an adult schedule and the network's it's shows themselves are barely above toddler level, literally losing all it's edge, becoming only a name and trying to bring back those 4 shows as a pathetic desperate attempt.
>>149290822got carried away and made too many typos
>>149285102>poptimism demanding Pitchfork take Taylor Swift bullshit seriouslyTaylor Swift is based though