How did it manage to be so fucking bad if it had the original creator of Ren & Stimpy?

>>149294861 (OP)
John only produces quality when he's reasonably wrangled

>>149294861 (OP)
Same reason why the Star Wars prequel were so bad. The creator didn't have the people from before helping him and keeping his worst decisions from making it in.

>>149294868
Quit wanking dude

>>149294861 (OP)
It’s a masterpiece compared to the soulless reboot from Comedy Central.

Fun fact: Zoomes are born closer to APC than the original Ren & Stimpy.

>A whole show is usually defined behind the team making it, not just the creator.
>Nobody was there to tell him "No this is stupid don't put that in the show."
>Dude lacked restraint and couldn't reel it back in.

>>149294861 (OP)
Someone explained this to me- when you have boundary pushing raunchy in unexpected places like a kids' cartoon channel, it's a shock and novelty. When you go to a strip club and you see tits, its not as impactful.

>>149296558
>The Simpsons
>Beavis and Butt-Head
>South Park
>Family Guy
Were all impactful and NOT for kids.

>>149295044
>no one had even remotely mentioned zoomers

>>149295166
This is only true of cartoon creators with no vision whatsoever, like adult cartoon clones. You are a communist.

>>149295040
I'll do you one better: It's better than the Games era.

>>149294994
>>149298072
Kys faggot

>>149299168
Shut up, little tryhard bitch.

>>149294868
>>149294907
This. It also doesn't help that this was at the point when John K's style was really starting to deteriorate compared to how he used to draw.

>>149299180
Tell that to the schizofaggot

>>149294868
True, but these days who wants to WILLINGLY try to work with John K? Dude's more cracked than Donald Trump with low hanging pants.

>>149294861 (OP)
The same way a lead vocalist for an amazing band can make some shitty awful solo albums. Collaboration is key. No one was there telling him his ideas were shit, I bet.

>>149299636
They weren't even his ideas, most of APC was written and animated by 20 and 30-someting interns. He was just the guy standing over the shoulder of the (female) artists, checking them out. I mean, checking their work out.

Some people work better when they're kept on a tight leash. Ennis, Ellis, King... sometimes letting someone do whatever they want means nobody is there to stop them from shitting on the floor.

>>149294861 (OP)
He's an animation guy, not a writing guy.

>>149294861 (OP)
Because the creator is awful duh

>>149299168
Read my work pussy
Coward
>>149299729
Stephen King is making garbage because he’s listening to leftists instead of whatever bizarre sources there are for his scary hotel, clown, etc stories. You’re speaking the opposite of reality.
>>149300737
Cartoons are a medium of writing with pictures.

>>149294861 (OP)
Think it's just cause the show still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get more poc characters soon enough

>>149301683
I don't care about your schizo bullshit

>all the guys that had to follow up on her scenes spent a lot of time in the bathroom, let me tell you

>>149294861 (OP)
I will admit that, for as heavily flawed as APC is, the animation is astounding, unironically one of the, if not, the most well animated television cartoon I’ve ever seen. There’s even more expressions compared to the original series.

Though I will admit the biggest flaw of APC is the pacing, Ren Seeks Help is the only good episode cause it’s decently paced and actually tells a damn story.

>>149299118
Eh, the Games era is overhated IMO, the only issue is that it’s missing the insane charm given by John K. The episodes of the first two seasons were so good cause they were made by a total psycho, the Games era episodes are only a slight downgrade but are missing that psychotic energy.

>>149294868
fpbp
I'm not saying he isn't or never was talented, but seeing the work he produces when he's at the helm completely unopposed or without someone reining him in, it just seems like the guy isn't really good at being a leader.

John K's history and reputation was either controlled opposition or a hit. There is no such thing as a pedophile in the sense of people who specifically want to have sex with children; 'pedophile' is a self-imposed nickname for pedosadists, which are people who get off on torturing and killing children, and THEY'RE *extremely* common. More than likely, John K was a plant to harm animators' reputation and enforce the stereotype that people who like cartoons and games are emotionally stunted, disabled manchildren, which is supported by the continued social and psychiatric abuse of art and gamer types.

EAT

>>149302770
Yes you do, you’re just desperately holding on to a garbage world that will be killed by my genius. And when my brand takes off you’ll try to participate in it and get dropkicked by me in your fucking face
>>149302785
Based.

>>149297115
But Family Guy never aired on Nickelodian before moving to Fox. The only show I can think of that did and still wound up succesful is Futurama, but Futurama doesn't focus on gross out humor and its innuendos are a tad more classy. R+S thrived on the uncomfortable gross vibe of the 90s, repackaging that to adults simply added titties flopping around.

>>149303080
t. emotionally stunted, disabled manchild