Why are Nazis always portrayed as the villains in comics and should they be?

>>149324043 (OP)
Commies should be portrayed as the villains instead.

>>149324043 (OP)
they tried to take over europe and rounded up people to be labour slaves
then again so did the russians. maybes it because a certain group is a "victim" of being targeted throughout history despite inciting the banishment for being scummy

>>149324043 (OP)
Because they're pathetic bootlickers who can't create decent art or do anything but self cannibalize, of course.

>>149324062
And the US too. The US had concentration camps for the japanese, and literally nuked one of their cities full of civilians.

America won, Germany lost, get over it.
Unironically.

See also the English.

>>149324081
America fought the wrong enemy

>>149324063
>pathetic bootlickers
Wanting Europe free of Bolshevik influence is bootlicking? Fuck you kike.

>>149324081
"america won"
from what i recall even after 5 years of europe of throwing bodies at the germans even the yanks where getting minced up and it worried them.

>>149324075
>but muh Japan
You mean the thirdies who tried to take over the entirety of Asia and the Pacific, raped how many again, waged biological warfare, used suicide bombers, did ungodly inhuman tests on people, and created memetic warfare via anime, gacha and pokemon stickers to genocide their enemies by making them social rejects who prefer becoming transgender to getting a real life girlfriend?
Maybe the atom bombs were wrong. Maybe the fire bombs were the right option after all.

>>149324162
Imagine being this retarded about propaganda

>>149324182
I have no time for people too weak to drink milk. Even babies can do it.

For US comics? Sure, in my opnion the US in the 20th century is much much worse than the nazis, if you want to compare what they did to black people and their own opnion on jews and how long nazi germany lasted and how long racism and such lasted on the US.

But as a country they need enemies and someone to be "the bad guy", because without them the only thing left is themselves, and as a narrative element that shit gets old real quick.

>>149324043 (OP)
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149242391/#149242391
>last thread was deleted
If at first you don't succeed...

>>149324226
you want a fourth reichst?

>>149324089
Bro America is the enemy. Literally Jew central

>>149324043 (OP)
You know if you wanted this thread to be more justified, you should come up with concepts for Nazis as heroes in comics to counter it, or explore ideas of Nazi versions of classic heroes that aren't just 'look how bad Nazis are' and instead are 'what if Superman internalized the ideals of antisemitism and fascism, and had the power to both execute those ambitions AND be the better Man with them'? Like, Superman fights pornographers and banking institutions and they go Legion of Doom hiring different forces to fight him, or he just carves out Atlantropa himself, or solves the Jewish Question by just building a land for them to inhabit from the reclaimed earth.

Or if you want you can ask me about my fanfic idea for Centricide in how Nazi saves the world by admitting to himself he IS a Nazi, but that he defines what Nazi is himself, not those outside of himself. But I don't know if any of you really care for jReg, or would and would want to hear this, I don't even feel comfortable sharing the idea on /pol/ really for all the gay stuff in the middle.

>>149324829
> Fledermaus: Guardian of the Reich

> Klaus Ritter (Fledermaus): A tall, blond, blue-eyed industrialist’s son becomes Fledermaus after his parents’ murder by agents destabilizing Germany. Trained by SS officers, he uses intellect, combat skills, and advanced gadgets (e.g., grappling hooks, smoke grenades) to protect the Reich. His dark gray uniform with bat, swastika, and eagle motifs, plus a black-and-red cape, symbolizes German strength. He prioritizes the Reich’s safety.

> Alfred Braun: A former Prussian officer and loyal retainer, Alfred manages Klaus’s estate and operations. Stern and meticulous, he embodies German order and service, offering logistical support and wisdom.

> Jürgen Falke (Falcon): A brave Hitler Youth member and Fledermaus’s apprentice, Jürgen wears a scaled-down uniform with a falcon emblem. His role inspires young viewers to join the Hitler Youth.

> Hanna Stahl (Batgirl): A League of German Girls member, Hanna aids Klaus with reconnaissance and agility. Her silver-and-black uniform with a bird motif balances strength and femininity, encouraging BDM participation.

> Kommissar Wilhelm Stahl: Hanna’s father, a high-ranking Ordnungspolizei officer, coordinates Fledermaus’s missions with state directives. His decorated uniform reflects regime authority and trust in Klaus.

> Inspektor Bruno Kracht: A gruff police detective under Wilhelm, Bruno uses brute strength and street smarts to assist Fledermaus. His rugged, simple uniform appeals to the working class.

>>149324043 (OP)
Because american comics are jew power fantasies

>>149324829
Tell me more of your jReg fanfic

>>149324043 (OP)
>>149324054
Both should be, they're both socialists and therefore, suck.

>>149324062
The russians kill jews to, they just couched it behind "anti-zionism."

>>149324182
Anon, most of what he said was true. Look up shit like the Bataan death march and Unit 731.

>>149324201
Typical fucking commie.

>>149324062
>then again so did the russians
Russians are portrayed as bad guys in media all the time, more so than nazis because they don't us the scary cross you should not show to kids

>>149324829
I'd like to see the story of a former Nazi super soldier similar to Cap who became disillusioned with the nazis after the war but never lets anyone in the allies forget that they had a hand in Germany's fate by forcing the treaty of Versaille on them, humiliating and weakening them as punishment for something they themselves were guilty of. Not justifying the reich but calling out the allies own sins.

>>149325140
So, let me get this straight
>the left communism
>also the left, fascism
Then what does the right have then

>>149325212
For every bit of media where russkies are the enemy, i can name five where its the krauts. Even during the height of commie hate, movies and tv usually never stated they were outright commies, unlike nazis. Not to mention Soviets and Maoists are ignored in modern media in favor of eternal fash bashing.

>>149325223
Monachism and theocracies

>>149325235
You could have hit with right winged authoritarianism.

>>149325213
This but his disillusionment stems from Hitler being too merciful and he brings about the Fourth Reich. "I'm going to finish what he never could."

>>149324089
More that they shouldn't have stopped at the Nazis and continued onto the commies

>>149324054
>whoa dude! The nazis are so evil! They speak to the evils inherent in all men and how oppressive governing ideologies can corrupt even the average man into an evil person who would turn on his own neighbor!
>what about communism?
>....real communism has never been tried. The CIA is the real reason all those people starved to death and why all those commissars killed those people for going against The Glorious People's Party, whose flag I have on my wall and many t-shirts.

>>149324201
Kill yourself, commie. Save your comrade a bullet.

>>149324043 (OP)
It’s fun and safe, like killing nazi zombies in CoD WaW, Wolfenstien 3D, having Joseph Joestar or having Indiana Jones stop some crazy experiment, who fucking cares. WW2 has definitely been a thing that has been milked to death but at least Captain America has an excuse to keep somebody like Red Skull around not only cause it’s a superhero thing but even now he’s a character out of time, although I’ve always thought that the nazi villain Shazam had was lame

>>149324043 (OP)
>I hate communists
>That's because you were raised a fascist

>>149324043 (OP)
Because they're Nazis.
Like you.
And like you, they get the fucking rope.

>>149325303
Oh, so you'll call everyone you don't like a nazi then? Maybe I'll start wearing an SS uniform and do the roman salute on the street with my brethren! That'll show you who the real nazi is!

>>149325125
I don't know how long this thread will last but I'll try to hit Bullet Points
>starting rap song called Right Side of the Centricide, all about how this is going to be very anti-jew and I'm going to turn all the femboys jreg's grooming on discord into Nazis like me and I'm so evil hahaha
>ABRUPTLY cuts to Nazi at his parents house asking why he's half jewish
>his parents, Basque Nationalism and Democratic Zionism aren't sure how he didn't pick up on it
>regardless they're happy to see him back home after his time away, and tell him to get cleaned up because 'company is coming over for dinner'
>he goes to his room (as any Nazi in a jew-written world would be he lives with his mom and dad)
>gets on discord for a bit to reintroduce anarcho-fascism, and introduce Civic Nationalism and Esoteric Fascism characters (think American chad and /x/ on hyperborea memes
>gets called down because family's here, Uncle Tito, Uncle (I dunno, some other fascist groups)
>and even the Centrists like Moderat Lee came over... with Dead Centerism
>who's NOT dead like he was supposed to be because that's how the story got started
>he and Nazi meet in the kitchen and discuss, turns out you can't kill what's already dead, he just had a bullet in his head for a while
>and he's sort of very mad everyone on the centrist side got killed by Nazi's friends
>BUT Nazi, he never killed any centrist, in fact he kept Moderate Lee safe and that means he wants to offer a deal
>he can offer Nazi a job, working in centrist channels and speaking his mind without censure, no matter how extreme, save one caveat
"You're NOT a Nazi... you're a Racist Liberal! I believe you, you're NOT a Nazi!"

And then that episodes with a reprise of The Right Side of the Centricide with a more dad rock flair about how Centrism is the correct side and the side that is REALLY going to win, and how any extreme can be on this same team

>>149324043 (OP)
>>149324062
You really don't believe in the holocaust? Like every historian in the world does.

>>149325348
Interesting. I'm guessing there's another paragraph of bullet points to reach the conclusion of Nazi accepting being a Nazi?

>Why is water wet and should it always be wet?

>B-but drought is also bad!

>>149325348
Episode 2
>Nazi moves out of the Anticentrist commune, gets flak from the leftists (Commie is upset that the centrists are back and wonders why his friend fell to them for profit, Ancap is concerned but then sees how well Centrism's paying and approves, and Ansyn just laughs and tells him to fuck himself, where Nazi seems to want to say something to him but doesn't)
>Commie decides to devote himself to study on how to consider a theorem to correctly challenge centrism, and locks himself in his room
>Ancap takes Ansyn to see Ancapistan's progress, and meet more Anarchist forces (list off some characters, haven't fleshed out this yet)
>Ansyn rejects them, but then Ancap meets Ancom at the gates ready for the tour he was told about, to Ancap's confusion (Ancom became Ansyn at the end of the series)
>Ansyn returns to the libleft commune and starts palling around more with Queer Anarchy, meets Solarpunk Anarchism, Egoist and Platformist Anarchisms, and finds they're deciding that the Authoritarian Right are encroaching on their spread with these new digital fronts
Here we start to build the framework on what centrism is; essentially it is the perception of reality you receive from outside sources. Not from what you see with your eyes or hear with your own ears, but what is told to you and has the authority to provide that message. Media, Education, Entertainment, all the parts GIVEN to you in your framework of the world to create assumptions of it.

The left’s habit of calling anyone they don’t like Nazis ironically makes more people sympathetic to the Nazis.

Funnily enough there is a comic where the Nazi is the protagonist but I doubt the people that want a Nazi protagonist would like it.

>>149325404
No we're a few episodes from that

So Episode 3
>(Nazi) is invited with Dead Centerist to a meeting of international relations, and meets East Asian Frameworks, Chicom, Juche (think a kpop fan with a selfie stick and a murderous intent)
>the Chicoms have been working on a new robotic force for their building and security purposes and are being bought to protect Centrism from outside threats, and Nazi is being used as the template face for their western counterparts
>they're bought by the Auth and Cultural Right (OH FUCK I forgot to mention there's a Cultural Left and Right side too now, Orange and Purple) and the Right
>Ancom finds Commie deep in theory, looking unwashed and mad about some unified political theory he's chasing, something about an impossible unity of force that could challenge centrism, and he gets a pizza delivery from a Syndicalist femboy who thinks Nazi still lives there and then decides to go look for him
>Ancap is noticing the buildup of paramiltiary toys in the right and center and wants in but after jailbreaking the bots he realizes they have extra programming to kill whole quadrants as needed
>he rushes to the anticentrists to try and warn them but Communist is dead, shot in the head, and Nazi's gun is there!
>when arriving back, (Nazi) is confronted by Ancom and Ancap on what happened)
>Meanwhile, Ansyn and the Commune break into the auth right and liberate one of the robots for their cause
Here I talk about how perceptions of reality are clouded by the information provided to us in our centrist framework and lead to conclusions that could cause starkly different world views

>>149325479
>Leftist exhibiting xis encyclopedic knowledge of fag shit

>>149325504
Fuck you fag, Desert Peach is great though I'm more a fan of her other comic set in a magic WWI post-apocalypse about a veteran German centaur.

>>149324043 (OP)
I feel like there's room to have Nazi characters display the nuances of Germany at the time. Not all Nazis supported the Holocaust. Despite Hitler's regime being built on anti-semitism and Aryan supremacy, several Nazis were Jewish and had allies in Africa, the Middle East, Japan, and the country had support in Latin America (especially Brazil and Argentina). Many powerful and rich Jewish people were responsible for funding Hitler. And we can't forget the amount of homosexuality among Nazis practiced behind closed doors.

Even modern neo-nazis are a form of controlled opposition infiltrated by the government similar to the cartels.

>>149325523
>gay porn gay porn gay porn

>>149324829
>>149325064
It would be interesting to have a comic as if it were made in an alternate history where Germany won WWII but is in a Cold War with the USA and it prints pro-German comics to fight encroaching American culture, but I doubt people would "get it."

>>149325483
Episode 4
>(Nazi) explains he's not responsible, he was in China the whole time, even though footage shows someone dressed like him enter the compound
>he explains the bots were designed like him and this is clearly a sabotage by outside players
>he's cleared but Ancom isn't buying it
>the two argue, I don't know how it flows to this point but basically they say 'well you wouldn't know what being ME is like' and vice versa
>so they do a Parent Trap and (because in show everyone is played by the same fucking guy) swap clothes and act out each other's lives for the day, Ancom pretends to be the Nazi and Nazi pretends to be Ancom
>(Nazi) I'm in parantheseing it since he doesn't sub to the term here but it's easier to work with goes to the commune and Anarcho-Pacifism invites him in for tea and spiritual connections
>Ancap rushes home to analyze who did it, only to find the rest of Ancapistan is starting to question his leadership, and the gun he found at the crime only has HIS fingerprints on it, despite being careful
>eventually, they vote to remove him from Ancapistan for dangerous military associations against centrism, wholly unprofitable
>he gets mad and ditches the whole compass to go innawoods to chart his own political destiny
>Ancom at Auth Right gets hit on by Syndicalist, has to larp his way through a gaming session with Nazi's friends, and finds Ansyn planting chips into the robots of the Auth Right
>Nazi is given a heroic dose of DMT by Anarcho-Pacifist who after Nazi reveals he's not Ancom, AnPac replies 'I know' as he falls down the drug hole
>AnPac gets on a call with the Dead Centerist and says 'it's done'
>we see Dead Centerist with a list of extremists he's crossing out and crosses out AnCap as well, nodding and tells AnPac to meet him for tea
Not a lot of commentary, maybe a discussion on how extremism is managed and pacified in centers of theory within centrist spaces.

>>149325543
Somehow you're more homosexual than the titular character which is a feat.

>>149324043 (OP)
Were you born yesterday?

>>149325557
Episode 5, shit gets started

>AnPac discusses with Dead Centerist about drugging Nazi and why he did it
>AnPac remarks it might actually make him stronger but Dead Centerist has had counterplans for that, and has AnPac killed
>then Dead Centerist addresses us directly as the audience and asks if we're enjoying the dumb show so far

>Nazi enters into a drugspace where he manifests running through different memetic forms of right wing content, Stonetoss, Iron Pill, Murdoch Murdoch, some TRS bits
>meets his father in the drugspace, the father character from Frameworks, who reveals himself to be Adolf Hitler and has chosen to meet his true son in this esteemed drugscape to expand his understanding of political frameworks, and awaken Praxis
>they do a heckin training arc, and Nazi gets the power to make Sonnenrad Chakrams like Axel from Kingdom Hearts
>he says that this praxis can manifest in his real life if he truly believes in them and himself, as his pure 100% Aryan Phenotype will easily let him achieve praxis, if not already done so
>This is awkward for Nazi as he realizes that that's not him (he's 50% basque, 50% israeli jew) and that's Ansyn/Com before quickly pulling out of the drug hole

>meanwhile, Ancap gets captured by Ape-Politicals in the wilderness of thought and is placed into a boxing match with the king of the monkeys, he wins and becomes the new monkey king, he has a wife, he has a song about going back to Monkey, he rides wife, life good
>as Nazi comes out, he finds out his cover's blown, he tries to summon praxis weapons but it doesn't work so he runs
>he finds out AnPac has been MURDERED by him, with more footage showing him do it, and to strike back, Queer Anarchy has declared war on the Auth Right and sets off the Auth Right bots to slaughter the quadrant
>Ancom escapes with Syndicalist, runs into Nazi and they all realize, someone's playing with them, but they've got to try and stop the war

>>149325638
>>149325557
Oh yeah, while all this is going on Anarcho-Monarchist is on a quest to speak to his pagan king ancestors and encounters his old friend Anarcho-Primitivist in the land of the dead frameworks, to find no centrists with him, and is told to follow the one who can break the framework to save the extremes, and Posadist's hologram is having an existential crisis as a program left on by a dead creator, unable to seek directives beyond the will of one who can't give will, but they make their way to Ancapistan to meet.

>Nazi saves his parents with Ancom and Syndicalists help, and fights off an attack by Mutualist from NazBol. The other rightists are marching on libleft, so they go to try and end the fight
>there's a bit where Ancom and Nazi have some time together and idk romance stuff that wasn't mentioned in the drug trip get spoken on here, point is Nazi wants to fuck Ancom and Syndicalist but has trouble admitting it for the... framework he's not really a part of
>Queer Anarchist with Ansyn is in some madmax rose armor get up to fight Homonationalist/Civic Nat's miltiary force and the sides duke it out
>Ancom and (Nazi) go to the libleft to try and make them see reason as a centrist and anticentrist, where Ancom and Ansyn finally meet, and Ancom is taken to 'The White Room' where he sees something incredible and is gone
>Nazi meanwhile is beaten, and mocked for his contradictory code and larpy personality, and how he couldn't even kill a single centrist OR extremist in the whole story, even the moderate survived
>he falls into depression and introspection
>what am I really
>he recalls on the drug trip about praxis and starts trying to believe in what he is, which... he isn't sure
>fight goes well for Lib Left, Auth Right defeated
>Civ Nat gets decapitated after saying 'Trust the Plan'
>Nazi has a deep think about what the fuck he was trying to be as a Nazi, or what it is and decides
>it's whatever the fuck he wants it to be

>>149324043 (OP)
>Everyone already recognizes what a Nazi is
>Nazi's experimenting with new technology
>Nazi's experimenting with the occult
>Rumors of Nazi's hiding in different parts of the World

Nazi's are a tired, old but reliable group of characters you can always pull from even when there's other groups of assholes you can be using

>>149325607
nazis where the bad guys yesterday?

>>149325723
If anything can be labeled a Nazi as a mark of outside negative perception, then the opposite of internal positive perception can equally decide anything is a Nazi and manifest that in himself

Episode 6
>he is the now the pure form of authoritarian right, the concept of the Strong Man, manifesting as that slow motion footage of giga chad, as he only exists in frames of action, as he quickly devestates the forces of the Lib Left, before pulling their energy into his magical fasces power, capturing Ansyn, and declaring himself the Nazi that the robots all instinctively bow to, to Dead Centerist chagrin

>the energy explosion spooks Ancap's wife, wife fights back, Ancap kills wife

>meanwhile, Moderate Lee is walking around the fight, as a politically neutral force he's not part of the conflict and finds the White Room on his own, and someone inside playing Smash Brothers, whom he brings out to go outside with him and touch grass together, one of Mod Lee's favorite pastimes

>Dead Centerist says Nazi was really great in the fight but he was supposed to stick with Racist Liberal or make a new name
>Nazi refuses, this is the only name that feels right to him
>Dead Centerist objects, you can't BE the Nazi
>Nazi rejects that, he can be whatever he wants
>Dead Centerist equally refuses, literally ANY other name but Nazi
>Nazi says no, and asks why he should even listen to DC now
>DC rolls his eyes, here we go, look I can't control your actions, but let's just be clear, if Nazi doesn't throw a punch, and agrees to change, everything done here is exactly fine with DC
>Nazi tries to punch him, and is blocked by incredible praxis energy that rips DC's shirt, and reveals SS tattoos underneath
>"You can't be the Nazi... because I'M, the Nazi."
DUN DUN DUUUUUN CENTRIST NAZIIIII

What if Notzis? They use all of the symbols, uniforms, and gear, but their actual ideology couldn't be more different. Like anarcho-capitalists who use said imagery to troll the shit out of socialists.

>>149325835
i know right, its almost like nazis are just like any other extreme political party, people do tend to ignore or unwillingly forget that fact though.

>>149325795
Epsiode 6.5,
>Centrist Nazi, morphing into his original and true form, all SS uniform and dueling saber, throws Anticentrist Nazi through a city block, though his form is someone corrupted
>he remarks he hasn't been able to take even close to the full form in years, honing his power as the Dead Center of Neoliberalism
>a framework is established that the high ranking Nazi officials brought over to the USA that weren't killed, decided to continue the concept of the struggle as a means to allow the glut of the passive unconnected world to engage with the ultimate form of Nazi revenge, the internet
>this manifests acceleration in a sustainable and radicalizing force that feeds back our frameworks until we're bound to fight, and so the strongest framework could be left for Nazi to either mentor or counter in the wake, and AntiCen Nazi was supposed to be that student, but failed
>So he has to die, but THEN
>Moderate Lee and the mysterious stranger are revealed POST LEFTIST is still around!
>qui's self-discovery split quem into a whole bunch of different political options, syndicalists, communists, anarchists, and qui's slowly reabsorbing them but his Ancom internals freak out at the Centerist Nazi, and in the chaos, Moderate Lee gets Nazi Syndicalist and Post-Left to safety in Ancapistan while Homonationalist holds them off ala Bon Clay

>>149324162
Dude, have you seen what Japanese culture has done to their own people? Memetic warfare my ass, they opened Pandora's Box and destroyed the world.

>>149325863
Episode 7,
>the different factions meet in Ancapistan, and Centrist Nazi can't get in because he's intending to kill, (Mod Lee returns and is chewed out for helping the enemy) DC says the "I WIN THEY LOSE I OWN THESE FUCKING OCTOROONS" line, and has to boomer his way through learning how to VPN his way into Ancapistan through, something, I'll figure out the how later
>the different forms of Post-Left also arrives, but start getting swallowed by another force in Ancapistan
>Anarcho Monarchist and Hologram Posadist along with Nazbol unify the remains of the Wacky Alliance to join Nazi's quest to defeat Centrist Nazi, along with Syndaclist
>eventually we meet the force, called Dissent, a force of Jungian Shadow, rejecting the frameworks of reality as it absorbs Ansyn and then Post-Left too
>it reveals its most terrible truth; None of This is Canon
>None of the entire season they've done has any approval by Greg Guavara and is currently being written by a fat American named (insert whatever handle I've chosen) so none of this matters
>it's why Nazi can win, and call himself Nazi, it's why Post-Left is still around and Dead Centerist is back, all of this is off jreg's script and antagonistic to him
>and if the characters won't give up like him on this reality, Dissent will rip it apart
>Syndicalist realizes that Dissent is incomplete, and sacrifices himself to refuse with the anarchist force, rebuilding as the force of praxis that Hitler's bloodline could create; ANTIFASCIST
>the political yang to the Auth Right's Ying, qui is built to fight and nullify fascism as a concept, which is what it manifests fascism to be or not be
>then Dead Centerist invades, and Nazi and Anti Centerist hit him with memetic energy something like pic related, but they're friends and hate you (centrist POV) and push him out of the space

>Boy, arent those jews just awful?

>>149324054
>>149325140
this

>>149325939
Episode 8
>Ancap think about life, regret, decide to return from the political wilds

>Nazi and antifascist along with AnMon and Posadist invade the hq of DC, where DC decides to take a page from Nazi, and admits HE is a Nazi without changing from his DC form
>this is a strong enough framewok to fight them all off, and he kills Anticen Nazi and Antifascist and sends them to a different level
>they energe in the mental illness headspace as mental illnesses of 'Nazi' and 'Antifa', with labels they can't take off of their heads
>in this reality they encounter jreg and he isn't even using their framework anymore and decide that they're cool with what they've become and go back to that lower dimension
>jreg nods at them going to do their hero thing, before finding Depression right behind him menacingly
>"A door opened once can open again" as depression snaps Jreg's neck

>back in the Political space, Nazi and Antifascist return, and fuse into one force of pure political power, as Commie predicted; like a manifestation of acceleration, they reform as Praxis itself, a Praxis dedicated to killing DC
>They rip him to shit and Nazi shoots DC down, completing his becoming of an anticentrist, but DC escapes into the twisting halls of the centrist compound
>he hides in a seperated panel from the others, going around in circles, as he is confronted by Nazbol
>we learn that the person who shot commie wasn't DC but Nazbol, for not respecting him, and also to kickstart DC's game of eliminating anticentrists and extreme threats around him
>and also he can see the reader and writers too, and hates them, jreg for taking away his story, and (me) for not giving him one in this story, and the concept of being written to do things outside of their own will entirely
>he kills DC as the extremists catch up, and with his new Dead Center powers, Nazbol ascends into (my) headspace, makes me pick up a gun writing the story and kill myself, my blood pooling into a laughing Nazbol

Don't worry friends. When the Reich fully controls this country we will be the heroes we were always meant to be.

>>149325999
And then Season 3 is where Nazbol runs reality, free of writers and expectations, and manifests centrist allies of his own, unique ship pairing no one does, OCs with tremendous powers, forgotten scripts, and any and all characters angry at writers and artists for dictating their lives, to start the new crusade of Canonicide, to challenge the notion of creations under the control of writers. Imagine Chris-Chan's every character imagined is real and autonomous but beholden to the decisions placed on them by us god-beings, and make that real.

Only Nazbol realizes he's still being written by a writer, he thinks he's escaped that because I've killed myself (and honestly for the art I think this is how I WOULD kill myself to be a proper Socrates of the message, I don't want a community or shit I want the message to matter) but I wrote all this afterwords as the framework to build a fighting game of different political extremes using praxis to fight each other anime-style (Commie's got this duplication power thing, Ancap's the Monkey King now, that sort of shit) and he gets depressed and vomits up Depression, returning to this realm as a god force the extremes have to fight together, I haven't thought this out but my general premise is this;

Understanding Centrism as an expression of propaganda and media upon the population, the tangibility provides a means to create anti-centrist praxis through civil disobedience. Obviously the direct answer is le Uncle Ted, but that's pretty bloody and illegal, so instead, civil disobedience of the frameworks of rule-abiding content can fill the gap that alternative news and currency miss; alternative media. In short, to fight centrism, people should make art in defiance of intellectual property laws to bleed centrist entertainment with a thousand cuts. Break the notion that canon is always superior to fanon.

>>149326055
This is WHY I would make this anticentrist sequel so openly antisemitic in its framework, it HAS to be a story that is seemingly rejected by jreg to both show how his jewish priors trumping the usefulness of new framework that highlight the reality of culture on politics, but ALSO to build how fanon can provide frameworks original creators cannot and would not consider, justifying their presence as dissent.

Of course, I'd also like the twist that jreg never hated this project and approves with the cameo and later discussions at the end, but I do think he'd actually be antagonistic to me, jew and all that, so killing myself will force him to pull back on the intensity and let the story play out so he can provide his critique and engage my fanon as equal to his canon.

>>149325364
Most things like that are a requirement for college professors to receive tenure, so if they don't endorse them they lose their jobs and have to make an entire career change. The biggest example of this effect is String Theory, which there's almost no evidence for and is actually a very unpopular theory but due to backroom politics nearly all academics were forced to endorse to keep their tenure. Honestly the whole tenure system needs to go.

>>149326050
I'll be in the service against the likes of you like my grandfather before me.

>>149326131
And I shall join them.

>>149325364
>You really don't believe in the holocaust
i NEVER said that.

>>149324054
Commies are le based.
It's the tankies that suck.

>>149325364
History is just the stories we tell each other about the past. You can manifest whatever framework about the past you want and with the right power you can make anything real or fake. That is the goal, to create a world that not only thinks the Holocaust is fake but KNOWS it and LIVES it as a means to tear down the world, for relying so deeply on that lie to manifest this sick sick sick sick world for it

So much relies on the framework that the Holocaust is real, that not only Germans but any white people cannot coalesce as nations. (Because they will make a holocaust) that every slander is justified, (because you made a holocaust) you can't elevate the genetics of your people with eugenics, (because people who did that did a holocaust) and you certainly can't be the ever expanding concept of racist (because that's what led to the holocaust).

It's a framework of perpetual guilt, built into a bigger and bigger blob of justification that bubbles over all our consciousness, even if we not only didn't do it but fought it. The only solution to breaking it, is refuting and denying it. It didn't happen literally OR emotionally, it is a better world to live it as a lie and have all our sense and self-preservation back. The past is like the future, it's whatever the fuck I want it to be and you can't stop me with your stinky stupid CANON.

Was there ever a Nazisploitation era of (western) comics like there was for films? Not the original WWII era "Superman punches Hitler and tells you to buy War Bonds" stuff, the 60s/70s over the top parody/lowbrow stuff that came after, like Ilsa.

>>149324075
Concentration camps where no one was executed or starved to death, baseball leagues were organized, and prisoners could volunteer for military service. Hell, one of them went on to become a major TV star. Another volunteer became a major politician.
Japanese interment is a shameful chapter in American history, but it is nowhere near equivalent to the shit the Fascists and the Commies were pulling.
(You'd have more of a leg to stand on if you talked about the Rez system and miscegenation laws, but even those don't get quite as bad.)

>>149326131

You do not have the numbers nor the power of those long forgotten days. The people are begging for a Chancellor to guide them and we shall oblige. We will make this country pure and prosperous.

>>149326237
So long as there is compassion in this worlz will there always be a way for a boot to go up a Nazi's ass!
Fascism may be on the rise, but Nazis aren't really a thing anymore anyway.

>>149325167
I’m assuming he mostly refers to the “memetic warfare” nonsense, which not only is a retarded notion because, like another anon mentioned, affected Japan first thing first, but also didn’t start until after USA occupied Japan after WWII and actually was born as a direct result of that occupation.
In short the dumbass doesn’t realise the thing he blames on japs had roots in burgerland shenanigans.

>>149326263

If the end result is the same then the name does not matter. The important part is it keeps growing and taking more hold of the country and the world.

>>149326050
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/tripcode/!!M8l%2Fyr%2BlkFj/
it's always the saddest autists

>>149326332
Based job, anon.

>>149324063
Stop projecting zogtroon

>>149325223
The actual difference between left and right is collectivism vs. individualism.
The extreme form of individualism is when few individuals have more rights than the collective, so we talk here about absolute monarchy. The king owns the nation and his word is the law, this is the actual far right.
But those are differences in theory and rhetoric only. In practice, horseshoe theory is real and supposedly ultra collectivists of the far left end up centralizing power among selected few in the government.

>>149326432
That's a common misconception.
The true difference is between egalitarianism and hierarchy.

>>149326451
Libertarians are right-wing, and they are egalitarian.
Communists in Soviet Union very much had hierarchy.

>>149326186
It really is quite something that the second you stop caring about the Holocaust/accepting it happened, or stop thinking "being a nazi" is bad you immediately find that you have no problem with you people or culture, that actually it's pretty cool, and the entirety of modern civilization seems to turn against you solely based on this one murky historical event.

Like, it's sort of like not noticing there's a literal monkey on your back. Fun exercise for anyone of any political affiliation. Anytime you see a political discussion write down how many times the holocaust is either brought up or alluded to. It quite literally permeates every ounce of modern discourse as the driving decisive factor.