>Improves on the original in nearly every aspect
>/co/ will tell you it sucks for some reason

>>149336888 (OP)
>Improves on the original in nearly every aspect
Such as... ?

>>149338201
>Actual musical numbers and not Top 40 pop songs
>A bigger, more developed story that builds the world fuller.
>Humor is toned down, and the humor that is there actually lands.
>Better score that fits each scene really well
>Better visuals and animation

>>149336888 (OP)
I think it's a good movie, but it doesn't feel like Frozen anymore.
I just can't imagine kids enjoying such a dense plot.
Still, it's visually stunning.

>>149338415
Impressive that the Frozen sequel managed to do all this considering it was constantly on the verge of falling apart behind the scenes

>>149336888 (OP)
EVERY aspect??

It's a kids movie, they all suck

>>149339249
I have a feeling Frozen III's production is gonna end up in the same shitshow despite WDAS taking their sweet time with it

>>149336888 (OP)
The tired and dumb "let's split the characters up" ending already makes it just the same shit as the last several years of Disney/Pixar shit

>>149340006
Shut up fag

>>149339249
The story is a fucking mess though. The writers don't even know what the voice is (never mind why it punished Elsa for doing exactly what it wanted).

Also, Kirstoffs' original subplot was much better before they scrapped it and made him a comedy sideplot. There's not enough focus on relationship issues after characters hook up in Disney films.

>>149336888 (OP)
I remember being pretty bored. The teaser trailer made it seem like it'd be some fun adventure but instead they had a few minutes of a travel montage and then spent the rest of the movie in some boring samey forest.

>>149336888 (OP)
It was great until the ending, which I hated with a passion.
The good news is: Elsa is still perfect.

>>149336888 (OP)
Terrible movie that wasn't nominated for anything for a reason. All of the characters are either out of character or they regress, plot and character decisions are nonsensical, Arendelle is 50% black and brown without explanation, hamfisted racism plotline, their parents are retroactively made even more incompetent. Olaf was the best character in this
>Elsa: actually I am defined by my magic, and I will shut out my sister and abandon Arendelle AGAIN!
>Anna: demoted from MC, character arc, scenes and songs are all cut out of the movie. Acts like an annoying and insecure nagging wife to Elsa for most of the movie
>Kristoff: Pathetic simp, no chemistry with Anna, missing for 50% of the movie

>>149338201
Fewer and better songs. The original had one really memorable song and about ten others that were either completely forgettable or plain bad.

>>149339249
>considering it was constantly on the verge of falling apart behind the scenes
Wow! Just like the first one...
>>149338415
Gonna have to say I enjoyed the music better in the sequel too, first one had like two good songs.

>>149336888 (OP)
Not really

>>149336888 (OP)
Killed all the hype

>>149342203
anna and Kristoff had whole story arcs cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH_bJI9Nk5I

>>149342481
Frozen 2's main song wasn't even written for it, it was a hand-me-down from Gigantic.

Even under the threat of death I could not recall a song from Frozen 2, and I liked the movie.

>>149336888 (OP)
Why didn't the earth spirits break the damn right after hostilities started if it was such a big deal to the spirits?
Why did Elsa and Anna's mom save their dad? Why did she stowaway to Arendelle?
Why don't the Arendelle forces stuck on the mist look like they aged at all? Why are their uniforms in pristine conditions?
Why did Elsa randomly Freez when she discovered her grandfather's evil deeds? Why did she unfreeze when the dam was broken?
Why did the two warring factions all act buddy buddy with eachother just because Elsa arrived?
Why do you like movies with huge amounts of plot holes?

>>149343140
>I don't think we should get married
I'm not sure I would've liked this plot line depending on how they would've handled it after
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7cD9BRmFw always makes me mad that it was cut though, they have 10 times more chemistry in those 5 minutes than in the entirety of the final movie, on top of it just being a great song

>>149343309
>Lmao Idk

>>149343311
If anything that would have made it more apt though. It's tearing him apart trying to find the right way to propose to her, foreshadowing that he's feeling that kind of pressure constantly in his daily life. It's easy to forget that he was an anti-social loner orphan in the first film so it's natural that being forced into a world of constant behavioural expectations and regular social events would grind him down Also serves to show that Anna has grown from the first film and is prepared to call off a wedding on her terms.

It's clear it's just regal life that's wearing him down, and that he's still in love with her. Would have been some sort of compromise, possibly with them cutting down their royal activities a bit more and living somewhere with a bit more space.

>>149343455
Yeah I agree it makes sense for his character, it's just the fact that we don't get to see where exactly they were going with it. If they were planning to make them discuss it together and make compromises, Anna's initial reaction sounds a bit too extreme and non-understanding
If he does keep being a lord and adapts to his new lifestyle in the end though, I wonder what would happen with Sven. He's spent pretty much all his life sleeping with him at night, but bringing a reindeeer into your fancy castle bedroom sounds weird. And making them sleep separatly is inconceivable at this point I think

>>149343309
>Why didn't the earth spirits break the damn right after hostilities started if it was such a big deal to the spirits?
Apparently it has to be a member of the royal family that breaks the curse, since the old king was responsible for this whole mess in the first place.
>Why did Elsa and Anna's mom save their dad? Why did she stowaway to Arendelle?
The book "Frozen: Dangerous Secrets" tells the parents' entire backstory and answers this. It's a good book, I thought.
>Why don't the Arendelle forces stuck on the mist look like they aged at all? Why are their uniforms in pristine conditions?
They are very clearly much more grey and wrinkled in the present than they were in the flashbacks. Look closer next time.
As for the uniforms, I have no idea. I guess they're really meticulous about keeping clean?
>Why did Elsa randomly Freeze when she discovered her grandfather's evil deeds? Why did she unfreeze when the dam was broken?
The question that has bothered everyone and causes the whole film to fall apart. None of it makes sense, you're right. The glacier is evil, and Jennifer Lee is a hack. Best answer I can give you..
>Why did the two warring factions all act buddy buddy with each other just because Elsa arrived?
She's the queen of one side, and family to the other. Plus the whole magic powers thing. If she tells them to stop fighting and try to get along, they're obligated to listen.
>Why do you like movies with huge amounts of plot holes?
I don't, I just like Elsa.

>>149336888 (OP)
I can't stand how many people call it 'Frozen 2' when the roman numerals are RIGHT THERE IN THE LOGO

>>149343241
Fucking HOW?

>>149336888 (OP)
>bails out on drowning Arendelle
>completely negating the whole theme of the film

>they hit the second tower

>>149346687
>I know

>>149342203
I don't think anyone will be upset if they pretend this movie never happened...

Frozen 3: The new II

>>149338415
>Actual musical numbers and not Top 40 pop songs
Into the Unknown rips off Stairway to Heaven.

>>149336888 (OP)
I hated it because there was little actual scenes, it was just back to back music and you could tell they were framed solely in a way that could be posted on YouTube as a music video. It annoyed me to know end. They were clearly just forcing as many songs as possible in their in hopes of one or more getting super popular. At least 1 had actually good scenes