>>149355667>>149355731There have always been weirdos in the sciences, in technology (look at Tesla and Edision and Ford were both just high functioning), and thus in business.
But people like the Vanderbilts, the Carnegies, the Kennedy's - they were called robber barons and manipulative thieves for a reason. They were people perfectly happy to use slave labor, or immigrant labor that could then be rounded up and put into prisons or deported, versus being paid, to construct railroads, build steel building/sky scrapers, etc. They were insecure in different ways, but they were still someone who a traditional masculine say lumberjack could and would beat the shit out of them.
People who romanticize them into 'masculine traditionalism' are wrong.