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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:42:56 AM No.149412804
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Why didn't he take off as a major villain?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:44:37 AM No.149412819
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>>149412804 (OP)
He did.
He’s more known as a Gwen Stacy villain now though.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:45:54 AM No.149412832
>>149412819
I absolutely hate this guys art.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:47:11 AM No.149412848
>>149412804 (OP)
Dude never made sense. He's an obsessed college professor that's the best in cloning. He's a pale imitation of Green Goblin. His plans were convoluted and amounted to nothing except fucking with Peter. His clone gets with a Gwen clone which has to be some level of cuckoldry. And of course he's the big bad of the Clone Saga before Norman takes over. Norman is just better in every way and makes it work. You look at Warren and you don't know what the fuck his deal is. Look at Norman and you get it and love it.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:10:52 AM No.149413051
>>149412819
Looks like 2013 tumblr fanart
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:12:41 AM No.149413070
>>149413051
Variant cover showing off Spider-Gwen’s rogues
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:18:19 AM No.149413120
>>149412832
It filters me a bit
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:22:03 AM No.149413147
>>149412804 (OP)
He died at the end of his first major story, stayed dead for 20 years, and his comeback was in the 90s Clone Saga, a controversial story with lots of people that really hate it. And he died again there and didn't come back for a long time.

He's entrenched as the clones guy now, which just makes him unpopular with a lot of people. His jackal costume is green just because he was a replacement for the Green Goblin, and people who need everything to make perfect logical sense can't stand him, and his motivations revolve around him basically being the living incarnation of all the Gwenfag readers who couldn't get over her death, and Marvel as a company has since been full of Gwenfags like that for decades.

He was a great fun villain in the Clone Saga though.

>>149412848
We absolutely should have had a Norman vs Jackal story by now. Maybe we can make Jackal responsible for all that Kindred nonsense and it was all just clones of Norman's kids that died there.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:22:24 AM No.149413153
>>149412848
>Dude never made sense
No, he makes perfect sense. He's the supervillain equivalent of the predatory college professor.
>You look at Warren and you don't know what the fuck his deal is
Do you know any women? I'm sincerely asking.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:11:56 AM No.149413649
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>>149412832
His research for characters is bad.
He draws pics of the wrong Komodo and Slingshot, who never fought Green Arrow, as seen here.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:14:35 AM No.149413675
I liked his recent appearance in Spectacular Spider-Men. No MUH GWEN, no clones, just him being an amoral mad scientist whose curiosity makes things worse.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:32:54 AM No.149413845
>>149413153
My bad for pointing out why a failed villain is a failed villain. But I'll give Marvel credit, they really kept pushing him, no matter how much nobody cared.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:33:56 AM No.149413855
>>149412804 (OP)
Because he's lame

>>149412819
Fuck off, retard
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:37:59 AM No.149413886
>>149412819
Spider-Gwen is SUCH a fucking stupid hero name, makes me cringe every time I see it.
What's next, Brucey-Bat, Spider-Peter, Iron Tony, SuperClark, Steve America?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:48:00 AM No.149413993
>>149413886
Her actual name was Spider-Woman in-story before adopting Ghost-Spider. The "Gwen" is for showing her gimmick visibly.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:49:51 AM No.149414018
>>149412804 (OP)
I think he has potential but as he is he's fucking lame. In his debut he was just a poor man's Green Goblin with a mostly unexplored cloning gimmick and the only other time he was relevant was in the Clone Saga where he was something of a one-note edgelord.
Plus Clone Saga and the trend of more self-aware comics after the turn of the millennium tanked the public perception of clone stories so nobody wants to bring him back for anything serious.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:22:50 AM No.149414977
>>149414018
He's interesting behind the mask.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:29:42 AM No.149415048
>>149412804 (OP)
His costume is awkward
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:32:46 AM No.149415078
>>149415048
Why is it green beyond him ripping off Gobby? I actually liked the second Jackal costume. To bad it was wasted on a shit "Ben Reilly turns evil" story.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:35:41 AM No.149415112
>>149415078
Color makes no sense and he looks naked. He's like the Thundercats in the pilot episode
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:38:31 AM No.149415138
How would you fix him? What should be his “main thing” besides/including clones?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:52:51 AM No.149415290
>>149414018
He has at least two dimensions in Clone Saga. The screwing with Peter part and the absurd number of pop culture refences part.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:57:14 AM No.149415330
>>149413886
Don't give them ideas.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:08:07 AM No.149415452
>>149415138
He could be like Baxter Stockman. Working for someone else while having his own agenda.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:21:54 AM No.149415607
>>149415138
Biology in general. A lot of potential there
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:29:28 AM No.149415686
>>149413153
>He's the supervillain equivalent of the predatory college professor.
He fails at that.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:48:40 AM No.149415882
>>149413070
Doing damage control posts for this awful shit has to be soul crushing
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:55:20 AM No.149415944
>>149413153
>Can I speak to the manager?: the post
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:11:04 AM No.149416077
>>149412804 (OP)
For the longest time I never knew he was wearing a costume. I thought he mutated himself into a little skinny version of Beast.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:43:59 AM No.149416324
>>149412804 (OP)
He died at the end of the original Clone Saga and Marvel wasn't in full on bringing characters back pointlessly mode. Also, bringing him back ignored that the Jackal was a seperate personality as he literally went mad from grief and snapped and it was erased when he came to his senses right before blowing himself up.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:08:51 AM No.149416558
>>149415138
I'd make it so that the clones are mostly monsterous so Spidey has cool generic Toku esque kaijin to beat up now n then, redesign Jackal to look more like what he's named after and I'd never make him the main villain just have him be a guy who wants to do evil genetics or collabs with other evil scientists to experiment with how much he can modify and enhance his clone creations. Pretty much just use him as an excuse for action sequences since his character itself isn't interesting.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:44:51 AM No.149416865
>>149412804 (OP)
>His costume is hokey
>He didn't get adapted much
It's a recropical cycle. His backstory as a college professor with a crush on Gwen that focuses on her post-death limits his adaptational-ness since
>Gwen has to exist and die
>The cast has to be in college for him to have a crush on her
Gwen certainly exists now (but not the real Gwen), but she's never going to die again. Peter hasn't been old enough for college in decades, and Disney isn't going to touch a male teacher being obsessed with a female high student with a ten foot web.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:51:48 AM No.149417231
>>149415452
He was that in Spider-Island.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:54:03 AM No.149417248
dis nigga thinks namor don't kill
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>>149412804 (OP)
>dies (again) unceremoniously in The New Avengers, of all things
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:58:08 AM No.149417275
>>149412804 (OP)
Because he looks like Gepetto.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:11:07 AM No.149417349
>>149417275
>both create artificial men
Deepest lore.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:21:07 AM No.149417401
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>>149413886
She’s Ghost-Spider as her superhero name.
The spider-Gwen is just for readers.
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7/16/2025, 1:16:37 PM No.149417998
>>149417248
so who killed him, a speedster of some kind?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:54:54 PM No.149418184
Names himself the Jackal, yet his costume doesn't resemble a jackal, unless there's a green variant I'm not aware of. And the furry beast look clashes with his evil cloning genius shtick.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:06:33 PM No.149418256
>>149415138
>How would you fix him?
delete everything about him and anyone that brings him up has to sharpen pencils for the interns