It would be so fucking stupid of WB to not ride the hype and tell Matt Reeves to go shove his ego up his ass and just put these two in the same continuity already
Zaslav himself said it would be retarded to have two Batman continuities running side by side

anon it's obvious Matt Reeves is gonna do it
they reference The Batman's gotham floods in the movie
Gunn is Reeves' best butt buddy and in his superman interviews keeps making excuses for Reeves why he's so fucking slow with the new Batman film
after this film they keep talking about their big new plans for the DCU that noone expects blablabla

>>149418414 (OP)
So the Reeves' Batman setting would just stop trying to go for the ultra realistic approach Nolan did? Gunn's Superman is openly fantastical.

>>149418438
Did they particularly reference the floods? I only saw that Gotham was referenced
Also Gotham being in Jersey in Reeves' stuff and Delaware in Gunn's stuff gives me some faith even though that's right from the books
>>149418457
There's no reason you can't have serial killers suffocating politicians in the same world as giant monsters attacking metropolis

>>149418414 (OP)
I don't think it's up to Reeves in the end but Pattinson, if he absolutely refuses any part in Gunn's movies, then there's nothing anyone can do about it.

>>149418414 (OP)
If they are going to make Battinson the new DCCU's Batman, he's going to need a serious power boost and a more comic accurate costume.

Integrating The Batman into the DCU would ruin the character and the IP. He should stay in his own universe, just as Nolan's Batman never became part of Snyder's DCEU.

Please no. I hated The Batman, I prefer a DCU that doesn't have any shitty 2003-ass grounded shit in it. Let the Reeves shit be its own thing. Let the DCU Batman be more comic book-y.

aslong as they don't do a gunnverse solo-batman film, or a batman vs superman crossover film, i don't se the problem with having two different movie universe batmen at the same time. are normies really so stupid that they can't comprehend different movie universes?

>>149418821
I liked The Batman, but I have to agree - it has no place in the Gunnverse as it's been established in Creature Commandos, Superman and, to a lesser extent, The Suicide Squad. A Gunnverse Batman would need to be as faithful to the spirit of the comics and the character in a shared universe as Superman just was.

>>149418838
>are normies really so stupid
yes, anon. the answer is always yes.

>>149418755
>power boost
No, he doesn't have to. Just let him be a guy in a bat costume. It would be more interesting to see how he gets around with no superpowers rather than more Batman power creep.

I'm all for it desu. It's so radically different, it would be fun for them to cross-over. I don't care if The Batman's stories are more realistic or the universe not quite meshing. It's more fun to just tell a story with these two characters.

>>149418737
He did four twilight movies he doesn't care lol

Source on Zaslav dismissing the idea of having two Batman actors?

Pattinson batman is early batman, batman would have been around for a while in Gunns DCU if suicide squad is part of it, why would Harley quinn exist in it otherwise?

>>149418945
He was "early Batman" five fucking years ago at this point he'd be pretty deep into his career
Also Suicide Squad is very soft canon

>>149418953
>Also Suicide Squad is very soft canon
what is that supposed to mean?
also i doubt the unfunny ugly freak that is reeve universe joker would be able to seduce anyone

I don't care, i just want the World's Finest in a good movie

>>149418976
"Soft canon" means that if an event is explicitly said to have happened in the new universe, it happened. If it isn't, it didn't. I'm sure The Batman would be soft canon in the same way if the merge happened.
Barry actually came out and said no one has reached out regarding another Joker appearance so I think they're memory holing it.

>>149418414 (OP)
>It would be so fucking stupid of
Gunn.

But Gunn is stupid. So expect it.

I really don't want these two to meet. A Batman should not seem that meek and insecure relative to his Superman.

>>149419005
You'll call him stupid if the merge does happen

I fucking love Battinson. I don't want a different Batman.

they should have a seperate batman for dcu, but he is only mentioned and showed in minor roles and cameos until the reeve batman triliogy (or duology) is finished.
have the dcu batman be long into his career, if he gets a. solo film just have it be the raid but set in Arkham, introducing most villains. maybe have a solo film fighting scarecrow (if he isn't in reeves universe), poison ivy or the court of owls.

>>149418737
>but Pattinson, if he absolutely refuses any part in Gunn's movies, then there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Except the thing Hollywood always does—pay him money. Usually works, 99 times out of 100.

i hate shared universes.
batman and superman don't need to meet. just let them be separate

>>149419021
Even stupid people can make the right call every now so and then.

>>149418916
He was 22 striking gold with Twilight, he's not that hungry anymore

>>149419007
This is basically my view on it. I like The Batman, and I like Superman: Legacy, and I like both the castings, but you would have to entirely change Battinson's characterisation for him to not come across as kind of a pussy compared to the other superheroes of the DCU, and I don't want that.

>>149419106
He seemed more than confident enough around Gordon, Penguin, and Riddler

No.

Just let Reeves do The Batman 2 and call it a day on that world. I highly doubt Reeves wants to do a The Batman 3. Just have it be a two-part Elseworlds thing with The Penguin sandwiched in there. Don't overstay the welcome.

Get it in theaters in October 2027.
Then let Gunn restart with his "Batman and Son" Damian arc. It will be older Grant Morrison/Neal Adams inspired Batman fighting the League. Can be older Superman but not like an "old man" or anything. If Supes is 30, have Bruce be 35 ish. Old enough to have fathered a child.

>>149419043
>just have it be the raid but set in Arkham
shit this would actually be so kino if done well

>>149419106
I agree. Both good movies, both good casting, but they just don't match, and if you don't change Battinson up he's going to come off as being less experienced and less tech savvy than Superman, and those are not disadvantages Batman should have.

>>149419120
Did he? All I recall is him shyly mumbling and moping around Gordon and letting Penguin explain Spanish to him

Forget the Batman and Superman comparison, If this is our Batman he's under equipped relative to fucking Mister Terrific. That ain't right.

>>149419148
Nah watch the movie again, we just see so much Bruce it's easy to forget

>>149419151
Technically The Batman would have taken place before Superman even moved to Metropolis so he'd be much further along now

I can't imagine Reeves Batman telling Terrific he's smarter than he is. And you can't say Terrific is smarter because his catchphrase is "i'm 3rd smartest after Lex and Batman"

I don't understand why they can't just have Pattinson show up in the crossovers, but keep his solo films their own thing. Like keep it vague how canon his solo films are to the wider universe, and don't reference the whacky crossover shit in his solo outings. Isn't that how the comics basically worked anyway, before everything became a massive crossover event?

>>149419204
That's probably what they'll do. Gunn said he wants everything to feel self contained.

>>149419204
I think it's just a massive disconnect. not that I want DCU Batman to feel jovial and silly or anything, but Battinson is way too early in his career and basically a jobber (even moreso than your typical Batman) so it feels like they just clash irreconcilably. Basically what >>149419007 >>149419144 said

>>149419252
The "early in his career" saga was years ago

>>149418943

>>149419063
Too late for that, because Superman already shares his universe with Green Lantern, Mr. Terrific, and Hawkwoman

>>149419165
if they just said The Batman and whatever they're gonna do for The Batman 2 takes place way before anything else in the DCU the problems would solve themselves

>>149419284
Ah I was hoping he specifically said 2

>>149419063
>batman and superman don't need to meet.
Nah, that's where you're wrong. A brooding, human billionaire and a cheerful, alien god coming together to do good and be friends in spite of their contrasting attitudes is and always has been pure kino.

>>149418438
>they reference The Batman's gotham floods in the movie
No they don't, that was an edit.
We see people evacuating to Gotham but that's it.

imagine the merger does happen, which implies Margot Robbie's Harley fell in love with...Barry Keoghan's Joker

>>149418457
Ultra realism is gay anyway. Arkham Batman from the games is the sweet spot for a balanced fantastical/realistic Batman

>people bitch about The Batman being in a shared universe with Gunn's Superman
>but nobody's mentioning how The Suicide Squad is still canon
>meaning Viola Davis is still playing Waller and Margot Robbie still playing Harley in a post DCEU world

Nothing matters anymore. It's all connected.

I always imagine Clark and Bruce to have a normal lasting friendship and not a weird standoffish one where Bruce always acts silent and brooding and Clark is basically the talkative one. I can definitely seeing Pattinson playing the former, but I can't see the specific Reeves' version being that. Hell, he isn't even a playboy womanizer in the first place!

>>149419336
They clearly don't mind retconning shit Ezra Miller was in the first Suicide Squad

Think Batman and pudgy Superman? The absolute state of superhero movies.

>>149419320
too be fair the joker interegation scene with him isn't canon. i hope they retcon his deformity

>>149418414 (OP)
Batman wouldn't survive a super pounding

>>149419336
>>149419354
>first SS film isnt cannon, TSS is loose canon, Peacemaker S1 is fully canon minus the part where JL appear, S2 is hinted at explaining the continuity changes
did I miss anything? I think that's all the info we have now

>>149419336
They should go for a younger Harley who’s still a villain. Never forget what DC took from us

>>149419390
Sophie Thatcher as Harley please
With Bill Skarsgard as Joker

>>149419390
need a solo harley and ivy film

>>149419404
Birds of Prey killed any chance of that, especially with Margot Robbie making a billion right after with Barbie. Harley does not sell tickets and needs to stop getting pushed as an important character.

>>149419402
he might be getting too old but i still wish we got walton goggins as the joker, if they decide to have a batman that is long into his career i think he should be the joker

>>149419430
Nah he's a perfect Captain Cold

>>149419390
We'll never get Joker's girlfriend Harley again. It doesn't gel with how much her female empowerment and emancipation narrative appeals to female audiences.

>>149419573
It DOES NOT appeal to female audiences you retard
It appeals to male producers who THINK they're appealing to female audiences
Women like Barbie and Friday the 13th not girlboss crap

>>149419344
I've always preferred Bruce to be relatively friendly towards his cohorts and allies. The DCAU Justice League got it right - he's standoffish and a loner, but he's also shown getting along with them (e.g. getting lunch and discussing romance with Green Lantern), making time for them (e.g. going to the opening of the Flash Museum for Flash) and even joking around with them when he's in a lighter mood.

>>149419582
>It DOES NOT appeal to female audiences you retard
calm down, bitch

It's funny to me how people talk about Reeves like he's some Hollywood big shot caller and not just a hired hand for JJ Abrams who's biggest thing was taking over a Planet of the Apes reboot he didn't even launch. Bigger name directors in Hollywood have been treated worse.
Pattinson is the real issue, because he probably figured he'd be half-way through his contract by now. I'm sure he was expecting something like the Nolan movies where he had a trilogy in 8-10 years, now it's been like 6 since he signed up.

>>149418414 (OP)
That's a sexy pair of boys to ship together

>>149419292
Don't be that retard, anon. None of that showed up in Batman and that's both what matters here and the topic.

>>149419595
exactly, and I can't see Reeves' Batman doing that. Like I said, I can imagine Pattinson as an actor suiting that sort of Batman, but the current one isn't that.

>>149419374
>TSS is loose canon
It's about as canon as Peacemaker I would imagine, it doesn't even really have anything that would need to be retconned like Peacemaker's finale.

>>149418414 (OP)
Having Batman be a decade older than Superman just feels off.

Whatever they do, they better move quick. Pattinson might look more like old man Bruce in 5 years.

>>149419430
I personally would cast that psychotic glowie from Peacemaker as Joker, especially when he gets possessed
But more than just the le evil grin, he also has mood switching and joking down pat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2v0OZ6tFeU

>>149418976
It means some of the events from the movie also happened in this new universe, although details may vary. We know that Rick Flagg, Jr. died in Operation Starfish, and the Weasel was also there.

Other parts of the movie explicitly didn't happen in the new universe. For example, how some of the movie was set up by the death of superman, which obviously hasn't happened, and we see memorials and such explicity using Cavill's logo.

>>149418438
>they reference The Batman's gotham floods in the movie
Anon, you might actually be a schizo, that shit didn't happen.

>>149419043
I mean, the third film of this new franchise, releasing September next year, is about a Batman villain. Having the bat show up in a shadowy cameo to arrest Clayface like he did Doctor Phosphorus seems unlikely to me.

>>149419336
They’re doing the New 52 approach where select events from the previous continuity are connected but it’s a mostly new world.

>>149419430
reddit actor

>>149418414 (OP)
Why are you guys so desperate to shove this movie into Gunn's universe instead of letting it be its own thing

>>149419284
The context was about the flash and how Keaton, George Clooney and Afflecks batman where all showing up in the same movie and was telling people that this was just a one time thing, also Gunn and them already confirmed that noncanon movies would be labeled under an elseworlds line

>>149421142
Because it's really fucking stupid to have two Batman franchises

>>149421221
Matt Reeves should pack it up and hit the road then. If there’s only room for one Batman, I’d rather it be a comic-inspired fantastical version rather than “Dude it’s le heckin grounded like le real world” Nolan two point no SLOP

>>149421266
>This guy should hit the road because I’d rather have something else
How entitled of you, anon.

>>149421380
We have enough “grounded in reality” Batman shit. You think you’re entitled to a sequel for a movie that wasn’t very good.

>>149421221
Why are leftoids so fucking stupid they can't comprehend two continuities existing at once?

>>149421568
>leftoids

>>149418838
>>149418852
Why do you keep posting this, Walter Hamada?

>>149421568
Stay on /pol/, retard. This isn’t your board.

>>149421607
>>149421595
Only dumbass sjws are stupid enough that they can't figure out Reeves Batman is not connected to Gunns DCU. leftoids are the only ones that ever demand artistic integrity be given up for there own convenience.

>>149421682
Learn the difference between “their” and “there” before posting your retarded ass worldview

>>149421712
See how you don't have an actual argument?

149421729
I don’t argue with politics-obsessed retards who can’t type out proper English. That would be like beating up someone in a wheelchair. You just don’t do it.

>>149420297
I think he said that to leave the door open in case any of the characters have to be recast, I can't imagine Margot still wanting to play Harley 5 years down the line

>>149421749
Thank you for admitting you are a retard that wouldn't be able to tell two different batman franchises apart. May I suggest killing yourself for being so stupid?

>>149418414 (OP)
>Zaslav himself said

>>149421568
Back to /pol/, tourist

>>149421189
>Gunn and them already confirmed that noncanon movies would be labeled under an elseworlds line
That's no longer happening after Joker 2 bombed, half the reason they decided to cuck out to "elseworlds"

>>149420583
Your average garden variety Brit never ages well, even if they eat well, stay healthy and stay out of the sun