When I was younger I used to laugh at how dumb Hank Hill was. Now that I'm older I realize that he was actually right about most things. What is this phenomenon called?

>>149444920 (OP)
>What is this phenomenon called?
Growing up.

"Growing old enough to understand the actual point of the episode instead of laughing at Hank's accent"? The show never was exactly ambiguous about whether or not Hank was right or wrong in a given episode.

>What is this phenomenon called?
Naivete

>>149444930
What I mean is that I was a retarded liberal when I was growing up but now I realize that conservatism is the way.

>>149444937
Same here.
I think it's pretty true for most people.
Start out an idealist liberal, high on the virtuosity of promoting perfect equality, free things, and total world peace.
Growing up is realizing those ideals aren't realistic due to human nature (and minorities), and that improving society needs to come from a more grounded approach based on hard facts instead of feelings.

>>149445027
>based on hard facts instead of feelings.

Conservatives are all about acting based on emotion and constant refusal of facts though

>>149444920 (OP)
profound mental retardation

>immediately becomes American 2-party /pol/ shitflinging

>>149444920 (OP)
I was expecting a moderately more interesting thread but looking at the replies I realize it's just another example of pic related

>>149445208
ANON NO YOU CAN'T DEFLATE HANK'S ASS EVEN MORE THAT'S LIKE DIVIDING BY ZERO, STOP!

>>149445104
(you)

>>149445104
Oh fuck was there another party switch?

>>149445141
Nice projection

>>149445147
the kind of post that gets ignored because it hurts 4chan's feelings kekypow

>>149444920 (OP)
growing up as an american? How am i supposed to know?

>>149444920 (OP)
hank has boomer conservative opinions initially but then comes around and starts accepting liberal ideals

>>149446363
He's definitely a centrist by modern standards. At least based on what we know - its not like we got his opinions on Washington's spending or whatever, he didnt have much time for that kind of thing (which is vastly more common than terminally online people can comprehend)

I wish more people in general were like Hank. He forms his opinions based on personal experience rather than just listening to what any idiot tells him.

>>149446363
I think it's more about lots of his ideals not fitting the more pragmatic reality of things. The whole propane obssession he has because he feels he need to be loyal to the thing that brings food to his table, but doesn't get that it's just a business and he should look for a better job or position in life rather than try to rely on a shitty boss to see his value.

He just has some idealistic standards that the world just doesn't care about anymore in his current day and age.

>>149444920 (OP)
>>149444937
>>149445027
Funny I missed the episode where Hank supports NAMBLA

>>149444920 (OP)
The only time Hank is right is when he is butting heads against a ridiculous bureaucracy or when he is dealing with a cartoonish exaggeration of the left. Hank is hard-working and knows how to run an operation, but lacks the self-confidence and risk-taking tolerance to run his own business. Hank is a well-rounded character who both helps and hurts his loved ones. Like how he stopped Bill from receiving the mental help he desperately needed on multiple occasions. IRL Hanks are no wear near this pleasant.

As for the phonon you are talking about. It's a cliche conservatives like to bounty about, "If you're right wing when you're young, you have no heart. If you're left wing when you're old, you have no brain". This sentiment doesn't really map out to reality. As far as general populations go.

>>149445027
Conservatives think they are smart because they understand some people are pieces of shit. But when you show them real policies and how they can actually do more good than harm, they just have an emotional meltdown and refuse to learn, grow or change as a person or their beliefs in any policy.

I'm the opposite. I used to really idolize Hank but he is honestly kind of a shitty dad.

>>149446649
Hank really is a piece of shit. Bobby could have been playing video games and making millions of dollars doing what he truly loves, entertaining people, but eventually got beaten into submission to work long hours on a hot grill, making very little money in a very high-stress occupation.

>>149446649
Hank isn't a shitty dad by the standards of most fathers out there, but he isn't a "great dad" like a lot of people claim him to be.
Hank does love Bobby but it's this sort of conditional love where he really just wants him to enjoy the same things he does and can only attempt to relate to Bobby if they're doing something Hank enjoys.
Bobby is a cringe kid, don't get me wrong, but Hank often just discourages Bobby from doing anything that isn't understood by Hank and he has to hide it from him.

>>149444920 (OP)
Lead poisoning

>>149446807
I wouldn't say it's conditional love, Hank definitely loves Bobby regardless it's just he has difficulty connecting which is a problem with everyone but Bobby is both a weird kid ontop of this being very important to him. When Hank discourages Bobby it's usually because Hank has a deep reasoning behind it but he can't communicate it well. The only time it's ever really shallow is maybe Soccer but even then they're in Texas so it's ironically a pretty big deal. Hank isn't incapable of coming around to Bobby's way of thinking either.
But yeah he's not a GREAT dad, he's usually only deemed so because his competition is Homer and Peter.

>It's okay, Dad. Lotta guys are into this.

>>149444930
>The show never was exactly ambiguous about whether or not Hank was right or wrong in a given episode.

Well yeah, but not in the way you or OP seem to mean. The standard KOTH story is: Hank encounters something new, has a reaction rooted in his old-school upbringing, eventually has to confront that his way of thinking is too rigid, ends up not abandoning his old ways but coming out more flexible.

>>149444937
>but now I realize that conservatism is the way.

KOTH is a pretty explicit rejection of conservatism, though. Characters like Cotton embody traditional, old-school thinking that's portrayed as wrong. Hank is usually caught between that old thinking and new ideas. The show also portrays being too liberal to be bad, so Hank usually ends up changing but ending up somewhere in the middle.

>Make the mistake of looking at a YouTube comment section on a KOTH clip

>>149446887
>The only time it's ever really shallow is maybe Soccer but even then they're in Texas
That's an example, I think, of Hank being way too petty. Bobby being into any sport is kind of a miracle. I get that it's a joke about Texans but it's still pretty fucking stupid for him to be that way.
I'm also thinking about the time where Hank discovered that Bobby was doing dancing dog shows with Ladybird, only to find out that he actually liked doing it too, and then instead of finding common ground with Bobby he just got all competitive about it and took Ladybird away from him. The time he had Bobby live in a dog house was also pretty fucked, even if it was a nice dog house.

>>149444937
If anything the show is centrist since they don’t really take a side

>>149446807
>Hank does love Bobby but it's this sort of conditional love

No, Hank unconditionally loves Bobby. There's never a question of that on the show. He just doesn't get Bobby, who actually is a very strange little kid (e.g., he has dreams of being a prop comic) and wants Bobby to fit in more with Han's ideas of what being a man are. But I'd say he's a good dad in that he clearly always cares for his son and tries to connect with him in his own way.

>>149446452
Hank has a lot of contempt for Mr. Strickland and his vices but he puts that aside because he respects his business acumen. This whole “you must personally like everyone you work with and be friends outside of the office” is a recent zoomer thing and it’s going to be a painful course correction as they become a larger part of the workforce.
Also Hank legitimately believes in propane as a great product that people need and want. He doesn’t see it as just a paycheck which is why he’s stayed with Strickland for so long.

>>149446974
It all flows from Mike Judge. He's a small-c conservative libertarian, which is why KOTH antagonists are often bureaucrats or annoying do-gooders, but he's not a social values conservative, so he also mocks the traditional ideas of manhood/etc through guys like Cotton.

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>>149446907
That's actually exactly what I meant, I didn't realize OP was gunning for some gay political angle which is why I didn't respond afterwards.

>>149446991
>Hank has a lot of contempt for Mr. Strickland

You're misunderstanding. Hank genuinely admires Strickland, he's more shown at being dismayed by Strickland's crassness and vices. Hank's behavior is a result of the previous generation's ideas about work, i.e. "respect the boss, take pride in your work". He doesn't understand that neither Strickland nor anyone else gives a shit about that and it's all just a job/business to them, which is why he lets himself be taken advantage of.

>>149446637
Nice stance, what do we call it?

>>149444920 (OP)
Barney from the Simpsons is what I turned into

>>149447109
"Fake Adults" could be a good term to describe conservatives and how they brand themselves vs how they believe and act.

>>149447142
The only fake adult here is you, zoomer tranny. Getting mad at fictional scenarios you make up in your head isn't going to make your parents live you anymore, or prevent your uncle from molesting you.

>>149447230
The irony might be lost on you, but this childish response is very funny.

>>149447142
>>149447109
>PLEASE I NEED A BUZZWORD! I'M THINKING TOO MUCH! THE THOUGHT TERMINATING CLICHE I JUST CONCOTTED IN MY OWN BRAIN NEEDS TO BE MORE SUCCINT AND BRIEF SO I CAN'T WHIP IT OUT AT A MOMENTS NOTICE SO I CAN SPAM IT!

>>149447288
Being against the creation of new words/terms. How Orwellian of you.

>>149447319
Other way around, the creation of new words is orwellian

>>149444937
Hank doesnt seem like he supported people like epstein though

>>149447339
This is a fascinating example of gaslighting. You know the main character's job in 1984 was to get rid of as many words in the English language as possible to create "Newspeak" a language with so few words complex ideas that would spark a revolution could never take place.

>>149447425
Yeah and replacing them with simplistic words and phrases to keep discourse as banal and ignorant as possible.

>>149447538
I always find it funny when you have someone dead to rights, but they are too much of a pussy to just admit defeat, and they come up with wacky ways to try and win something they clearly lost. Almost like a child behaving like what he thinks an adult is. Almost like a "Fake Adult".

>>149447617
If it helps, as a third party observer, you both come across as autistic faggots.

Hank was always right, especially when it comes to Dale.

>>149447617
Doubleplusungood, id I commit wrongthink? I'll make sure to crimestop.

>>149447658
No, Hank is almost never right. It's a core part of the show that he's constantly being pushed out of his comfort zone and forced to expand his thinking. He's not shown as totally wrong, just too rigid.

>especially when it comes to Dale.

Now this is correct, because Dale is an idiot.

>>149447674
You keep going back and forth on whether you unironically like newspeak or not, or maybe you are just confused by the definition.

>>149447761
Are you unironically autistic? I'm not joking or using it like retard, I'm legitimately asking if you have the mental disorder. I thought it was pretty obvious I was being sarcastic by using newspeak. The whole point is those are buzzwords Ingsoc uses to create a debilitated version of english, the same way you're desperate to create a Buzzword for a general group of people you don't like rather than actually explain your reasoning more than once EVER, and worse yet it's not even that complex of a concept nor is the buzzword particularly catchy.

>>149447761
>>149447843

Can you fags suck each other's dicks somewhere else?

>oh nice koth thread
>look inside
>its just a twitter tier argument thread

>>149446948
>Even John Redcorn's ancestors sided with Dale

>>149444920 (OP)
The Squidward Conundrum

>>149447843
I know fascists like wasting their time having pointless arguments online to try and lead astray some dummies who could be overseeing the conversation. And I am just having fun showing how dumb you are while listening to podcasts.

The point is, you are trying to find a "cool" way to limit language. I pointed out how that is very Orwellian of you. You then lie and say that it's Orwellian to create words/phrases. And I proved how you were lying. You never ever had any of the facts on your side. All you can do is try to look "cooler" or less "autistic" so you can feel better about yourself, or you could try to influence others. You try really hard to sound clever, but you don't have the cards. And you might have the last word because this will eventually bore me.

>>149447940
The irony of saying it's a cool way to limit language while not wanting to engage in any longform conversations because "dummies" might be lead astray by "fascists" because as we know there's no leftists that ever engages in lengthy dialogue. Also the denial that a big part of Newspeak is reducing speech to buzzwords for the purpose of thought-termination is kinda funny.
Cool whatcha listening to? I just finished one of Wendigoons cryptid tier lists. love me some wacky critters.
Hey >>149447339 you listening to anything fun? Or did you just check out of the thread?

>>149448113
Order of events
>Something is described
>That something gets a name
>You complain about that something having a name
>It's pointed out to you that it is very Orwellian to want to limit language
>You then lie and say it's Orwellian to expand language
>You are proven to be a liar
>You then continuously flop around like a fish to try and not lose a fight you already lost a long time ago

>>149444920 (OP)
Hank was mostly lost when it came to modern cool things and stuff 20 somethings were into.

But he had a lot of real world awareness and knew that half the stupid shit Bobby was into would only get him made fun of, beat up, and be labeled as a freak in school and probably really screw him up in life.

>>149445141
this, unleas OP is some zoomer that was 3 when KotH was on TV, you have to be a real nutcase not to get it.

>>149444930
>>149446907
It was the occasional episode where the entire world bends over backwards to punish Hank at every turn episodes that made his focus episodes annoying.

Like the time he flooded a neighborhood, or the one where the porn rental place kept sending him more ads and bills. Those were stupid and everyone everywhere not only acted out of character, but went really incredibly far in the making Hank into the butt of a joke.

>>149448219
Oh okay, so you just misunderstood what happened.
>I pointed out your buzzword was a thought terminating cliches.
>You thought for some reason a buzzword counts as an expansive addition to the English lexicon and say. it's Orwellian not to like buzzwords
>Another anon points out actually 1984 features the government creating their own buzzwords to combat independent thought.
>You then keep doubling don that Newspeak doesn't feature these buzzwords and a weird tangent about conversations being fascist.
It's cool we all get mixed around sometimes.
Also you never told me what podcast you were listening to, I'm curious.

>>149446637
>things that never happened

>>149446401
>He's definitely a centrist by modern standards.

The left would call him one of Maga crowd and try to cancel him.

>>149448441
Funny how you waited this long to make the claim the other posts weren't made by you. Keep on flopping.

>>149448576
Sorry bro, multiple people are aware you were wrong about something. Shit happens everyday.

>>149445409
No, white conservatives were always like that.

>>149448561
Conservatives are literally cutting programs and causing people to lose jobs which is objectively bad for the country.

>>149446401
Did he state something a long the lines of he didn’t like Regan cutting mental health spending at one point?