Can we have a PeterPam thread? The original anon never named the ship so I’m gonna call it Spiderlily

>>149450235 (OP)
Spiderlily is okay but kind of a stretch on account of her name isn't Poison Lily. and it's only inspired by how PeterPam (way better) sounds like Peter Pan, so you had your mind on that.

>>149450327
It’s because there’s a plant called a Spider Lily

>>149450235 (OP)
I'll be honest in that I really never had a concrete name for the ship but I do like PeterPam or Peter X Pamala since it's less silly then calling it Spivy or whatever to me personally and has a humanizing touch. Also I'm happy that other people have interest in my ship so hopefully can wring some fun discussion out of this thread. Might have to comm some more art soon to.

>>149450576
I honestly find the possibility of AU elements really interesting here because in a shared Marvel/DC universe this really could arise from the butterfly effect.
All it would take is a past Ivy transferring to midtown during college after her accident and we already have a different origin point

What flavour of Peter X Pamela you want we've got
>Younger student Peter dealing with part time teacher he gets on with but full time eco villainess, either way crushes hard
>Middle aged Peter well into his career getting a curve ball with an intellectual rivalling and taste appealing new villainess on the block
>Spider themed superhero struggling to reign in Poison Ivy's unsavoury traits while teaming up as hero and anti-heroine that gets on but clash method wise
>Civilian Peter Parker who's get the lustful attention of Supervillainess Poison Ivy but as Spider-Man her great distaste for foiling her crusade for nature and webbing her up in flattering but humiliating ways.
More flavours are potentially available if we factor in either else world versions like Noir Spider-Man and Gotham by Gaslight Pamela, Mangaverse Spidey and Batman Ninja Poison Ivy and if you're lucky might get a Poison Ivy with the Lasher Symbiote.

>>149450769
Yeah since then she would transfer into being in Spider-Man's rogue gallery with probably the knock on effect of one of Spidey's rogues becoming more a batman villain as a trade. Also I do think her in midtown during college can be explored in fun ways of she's either a troubled fellow student who he manages to get on with due to shared interests plus seeing his more Ditko esque chip on his shoulder in her or alternatively Pamela is slightly older and his teacher that she eventually grows fond of him over lessons plus both running late but they both risk discovering the others secret identity due to their growing closeness.

>>149450944
I like the idea of Peter being a fellow student and finding out about her being Poison Ivy after defeating her for the first time. I think Spider-Man would probably be much more sympathetic towards her than some other villains because he knows she’s legitimately mentally unwell. Remember Pamela constantly hears the Green screaming in her ear, demanding justice for all the pollution and destruction of the environment.
Combine that with Marvel NY’s population and I could see her sometimes acting as an anti hero who targets Ock, Goblin, and Fisk

>>149450864
>>149450944
>>149451534
Which option has the most likelihood of someone making a porn parody comic up to two where he knocks her up?

>>149451534
>After her rampages Poison Ivy usually ends up in a Green exclusion cell in the Baxter Building for recovery

Why don't you just call it Poison Spider?

>>149451634
I'm not really into pregnancy/impregnation stuff myself but really it depends how much someone is willing to spend or if an artist ended up liking the ship. Though I'd say younger Peter and Older Pamela would be your best bet since that's all the rage of older seductive woman and more youthful somewhat nerdyish guy is a popular dynamic with porn artists.

>>149451534
That is genuinely an underrated idea of Poison Ivy going after other villains if they are either corporate types or tied to wide scale natural destruction. I do remember once thinking be fun if she was briefly on Doctor Octopuses Sinister six made of 3 Batman villains and 3 Spidey villains but eventually either betrays or gets betrayed due to her growing feelings for either Peter or Spidey. Also could see Curt Connors becoming something of a friendly platonic figure with Pamela both having green history lol. Could see him being pretty sardonic to Peter about crushing on an eco terrorist at first to but still trying to help out.

>>149451750
>Despises Human Torch for the two obvious reasons
>Gets on well enough with Reed and Sue, tries to fluster both time to time
>Ben Grimm and her shit talk the other but play poker time to time with Sandman.

>>149451875
I could see her relating to Connor’s a lot and potentially even changing her viewpoint because of him. Here’s a guy who wants to make the world better and help the environment, but whenever he returns to lizard he just ends up creating more problems

>>149451904
>slowly adjusts her plan to not target anyone truly innocent because Peter and Ben made her feel bad

>>149451904
this scene but its Pam instead

>>149451953
I could see her in a more intially villainous phase biting of more then she can chew when she deliberately makes Connors turn back into the Lizard with a modified serum what with her being an expert chemist but then having to deal with either a giant feral Lizardman or potentially worse one that's a genius and even more misanthropic then her. Could even get a taste of her own medicine since Lizard recently had that weird reptile brain mind control power stuff in Shed. Could even be what gets her going more heroic when she and Spider-Man have to team up to stop the Lizard after he breaks her free from it. I think it's interesting is initially Pamela does do bad things and has strife with people before she opens up or lowers her guard due to her backstory plus just personality flaws since it'd be boring if she's just got an attitude problem but doesn't actually do villainous acts she has to makeup for.

>>149452151
Yeah I agree. I honesty see this as being a very long and drawn out redemption for Poison Ivy and not one where she can just be immediately forgiven.
She has to break things before she can get better. Though something tells me she finally turns good during superior Spider-Man

>>149452190
I could see Superior Spider-Man much like the actual storyline following up after a major Sinister Six plot, though a significantly different one. I could see Doctor Octopuse's one consisting of himself, Mr Freeze, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Electro and Mysterio with this being their last stint before they all go seperate ways going forward with Pamela finally becoming a heroine being a factor to. Though it'd maybe also be fun if instead Pamela was on Beetle's all girl Syndicate with maybe Orca and Roxy Rocket to. Really merging Spider-man and Batman just opens tons of story possibility even with my ship aside.

>>149452393
Agreed. It could also be really cool to see Spider-Man and Batman finally teaming up against the Sinister 26 composed of most of their main villains

>>149452433
You ardle making me think of that one fight scene from The Batman 2004 but on crack and kinda loving it. I think one of the other fun ideas is how Peters friends and family react to Pamela. Being intially surprised that he's hanging with this utter bombshell but then it clicks once she's a science and nature obsessed weirdo despite looking like God's gift to sex.

>>149452649
Yeah. One thing I’ve always wanted to see is Peter dating someone who really gets his science side
If you really think about it the two are parallel characters

>>149453531
Yeah there's a bizarrely genuine amount of overlap and yet also fitting contrast between the two which is why I like it more then just enjoying both their designs since can wring some actually depth and story potential from the pair as a concept.

>>149450864
Student Peter meeting a Pamela that's more inspired by DC Superhero Girls or the Schumacher movie where she's kinda frumpy and much more openly disdainful of other people as Pamela but allows herself to cut loose and lean into the seductress angle as Ivy.

>tfw no yandere Ivy forcing Spider-Man to take a break by kidnapping him

>>149454835
>Uses a super evolved pollen to sedate him
>Not to roofie him but just so Peter can rest on her lap without worry or stress filling his head

>>149450235 (OP)
I didn't even realize this was a ship. What's the basis? Why pair these two together? I'd figure spidey already has enough girls on his roster and they're not even in the same universe.

>>149455302
>Both superhero setting characters but from different settings and opposing moral
>Redhead and villainess is two of Spidey's type
>Shared science passion and expertise in chemistry to have in common despite differences
>Commissioner likes them both so pairs them up cause thinks it's neat

>>149455302
every other Spider-Man ship is just "I find this woman hot and I'm self-inserting myself as Spidey dating her"

>>149455249
Peter deserves a stress free day where he’s not in constant pain
Wonder if Ivy would ever try to seduce him to the dark side reminding him how he is mistreated

>>149450235 (OP)
Why is this the only piece of art posted in this thread

>>149455351
>>149455379
They’re also both insane.
And before you give me the refutation of Spider-Man isn’t insane, yes he is. No sane person would blame themselves for everything bad that happens in their city

>>149455391
Because someone is skimpying out

>>149455391
Cause this ship sucks

>>149455396
Peter is insane in the sense of what he's been put through on a constant basis and how close he is to a full on mental break. At least facing a sexy bodysuit clad gardening terrorist would be a plesant step up from burried alive by hunting autist Russian man, body stolen by crippled scientist strapped with metal tentacles and Norman Osborn in your general direction.

>>149455495
And this is precisely why Peter Parker needs an occasional pheromone induced factory reboot

A vintage piece with no commission influence on it

>>149450235 (OP)
Why are Peterfags such pathetic self inserts?

>>149455572
At this point I don’t see Peter as myself but rather as a good friend

>>149455572
>Doesn't like thread topic as it upsets him
>Goes into thread to be upset anyway

>>149455520
we have Silk for that

>>149455613
Does she fulfill the role though

>>149455627
Silk's hot but she's also bit flat as a character, though I'm reminded of the Cassandra Cain being hypnoed into sexual submission for Ivy art but with Silk now. The idea of Cindy getting a taste of her own medicine does sound pretty sexy like if Poison Ivy got some hypno treatment herself.

>>149455612
that's what 4chin is for

>>149451634
there's a porn comic of Harley signing up for an interdimensional breeding clinic and the giver is Peter, they both fuck while Ivy and MJ just watch. eventually Ivy joins in, and so does MJ.

>>149455767
I feel Harley being included in any capacity ruins what appeal there could be but I also am.biased since hate her with every molecule and atom of my body

>>149455864
Personally I consider old Harley and new Harley to be separate characters.
I like old Harley because she’s an idealist who got manipulated

>>149455662
Yeah. They both should get hypnoed eventually

>>149455904
That's fair, usually the biggest indicator of Harley quality besides the design is whether she's voiced by Arleen Sorkin or Tara Strong. The Batman 2004 is also a pretty decent Harley with having one of the few healthy relationships with Joker and also being more overtly villainous but in a fun way. Though ironically despite finding what they go for Poison Ivy interesting she isn't one of my fave versions. I quite like Brave and the Bold Poison Ivy and one of the few times don't mind her with green skin. I prefer when Poison Ivy has a human skin tone, full gloves n boots with a leotard preferred.

>>149455952
I agree on the Poison Ivy. And I also agree on Harley though there was a part of me that liked the DCSHG Harley.
I really think the difference between a good and a bad Harley is whether they’re genuinely nice before meeting the Joker or not and whether they feel regret.
I liked the original Harley because she’s clearly a nice person deep down, just one who got manipulated by what’s essentially a cult leader.

>>149455996
Yeah there sometimes are cases where Batman's villains work wether portrayed sympathetically or more villainous regardless but certain ones it's a hard set rule they work better with specific characterisation and traits. Joker when played to much as a serial killer monster becomes utterly boring or eye rollingly lame, Bane is better when his intelligence is highlighted alongside his physical threat and as you mentioned in Harley's case she works better when she's clearly someone who's decent despite enjoying the wacky villain antics, doesn't give kids exploding handheld games and also doesn't look like a crack whore who acts utterly flippant and guiltless about her behaviour. Poison Ivy tends to lean towards being sympathetic but they also sand off way to much of her negative traits or seductive attitude that's hard coded into her character that she loses her charm.

>>149456176
I like to think the Joker and Poison Ivy work best when they are allowed to develop as characters.
Poison Ivy should start out as more seductive before becoming sympathetic while still retaining the seductive angle.
Joker in my opinion should deteriorate over time. Starting out as the zany criminal who would realistically be allowed to live by the courts before slowly becoming more and more murderous as his obsession with Batman causes him to escalate. As he becomes worse more allies should leave him. Insanity is a disease, let us see it get worse over time

>Poison Ivy kissing powers
>Spider-Man ha bondage powers
>We will never get a crossover where Spider-Man webgags Poison Ivy
Why live?

>>149456524
Poison ivy also has bondsge powers

>>149455572
True

>>149457011
>Poison ivy also has bondsge powers
Bondsge powers?

>>149450235 (OP)
Fuck's wrong with her arms?

This is why Paul exists.

>>149457904
editorial mandate from a man upset he was cucked and made it everyone else' problem instead of getting counseling?

>>149457904
Why does Paul exists?

>>149457925
>>149458716
You self inserting losers can’t help yourselves.

I'll be honest I like this ship better than Spider-Man and Black Cat

>>149458731
What?

>>149450235 (OP)
nigga what

>>149455544
>>149455531
>>149455409
>>149450235 (OP)
Do we have any more fanart of the two?

>>149455572
Because you're more pathetic than them

>>149462753

>>149455572
Peter was literally created to be a self insert

>>149455572
>>149457904
>>149458731
It won't be true no matter how many times you say it. You whiny bitches need to shut the fuck up.
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/text/%22this%20is%20why%20paul%20exists%22/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/text/%22peterfags%22/

>>149455409
GYATT

>>149463065
Petey won.

>>149455864
Okay anon you can't just say that without some 'sauce.

>>149466915
Shit meant for >>149451634
My bad.

>>149466927
Its okay, we forgive you

Oh commissioning new pic or two of the ship in the week

>>149455302
>Peter in Gotham
>deals with villains
>Sexy Redhead villain
>ship name sounds like Peter Pan, which a pun is really all people need to make something
>obviously wasnt going to be catwoman, hes already got Black Cat for that

>>149450235 (OP)
big fucking titties

>>149455544
>>149463065
I wanna grope her lovely shaped body

>>149455767

I spent the last several hours searching...you got the sauce, anon?

>>149470077
What?

>>149470514
https://novelcrow.com/comic/justice-lust-breeders-aya-yanagisawa/
here you go, it's the second chapter. That and the Hal Jordan/Carol Danvers one are my favorite

>>149470954
NTA but kinda speaks for itself doesn't it?

>>149470954
it's self-explanatory

>>149470988
I find out website immediately went to an odd pop-up thingy do you have anotherI ?

>>149450864
Peter and Pam should flirt as undergrads, then she gets powers and Spider-man helps her out.

>>149473499
Go on.