Can anyone tell me the state where The Simpsons live? There are 41 states in the nation that's named Springfield and I can't figure out which one The Simpsons live in

It can't be the southern ones, since it consistently snows during winter.

They leave enough clues for you to figure it out
>Springfield is a midwestern town
>Springfield is on the ocean
>Springfield borders Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky

>>149461239 (OP)
https://youtu.be/c2DHyimmSCY?feature=shared
I always liked this guys logic for Illinois.

>>149461239 (OP)
Springfield is an eldritch entity that moves from state to state, absorbing the cities it replaces.

>>149461239 (OP)
>>149461239 (OP)
Emplemon explained it best:
"Springfield isn't in America as much as it is America"

It doesn't exist in any particular state, but it takes its inspiration from the one in Oregon. This isn't particularly obscure trivia.

>>149461290
The ocean is shown in one episode to be the Atlantic and they have a historical colonial village. It could be on the east coast.

don't know but their city is massive

>>149461239 (OP)
It's wherever the plot needs it to be this episode, now take your anti obsessing over stupid shit pills.

Texas

>>149461570
Maybe it’s Oregon to Groening and Massachusetts to Bill Oakley, Conan O’Brien and friends

>>149461239 (OP)

Real Jims said Illinois, Matpat said Oregon

>>149461239 (OP)
does it matter, the answer is North Tacoma. it can be anywhere where the plot requires it. it genuinely doesn't matter.

>>149461239 (OP)

It'd be easier to just list the states we know it can't be.

>>149461571
Its not that big, but its clearly a tier 4 city by the sheer density instead of the town it was in the early years, it just also holds a lot of nature within its limits that would normally be unincorporated.

>>149461239 (OP)
Springfield, Virginia is in the Washington DC metro area, so that rules it out.

>>149461239 (OP)
I always thought of Springfield as in Illinois. Springfield is usually said to be in the Midwest. The population of Springfield, IL is 114,394. Which is similar to what I feel Springfield in the Simpsons is.

>>149461831
>>149463469
See, to my knowledge, Oregon doesn't have any colonial areas that look like Williamsburg, Philadelphia, or Boston, which Springfield has.

>>149464159
Springfield is next the ocean, dude. Illinois is very landlocked.

>>149461718
That's a map of Springfield, not Texas.

>>149464189
Springfield is "wherever it's convenient for that episode." It is also next to some very tall mountains.

>>149464189
>LakeMichigan.jpg

>>149461239 (OP)
Depends it used to be Kentucky but if you keep watching after behind the laughs it changes.

>>149464264
Lake Michigan is not the ocean. There's been multiple episodes showing that Springfield has coastal access.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/utyih0/according_to_this_map_theres_a_krusty_burger_on/#lightbox
This is what I base my case on. It's when they were washed out to sea while camping.

>>149461571
It's missing the glacier

>>149461239 (OP)
>There are 41 states in the nation that's named Springfield
>states
When did the US do that, is it like a Gulf of America thing? Is the plan to get every state to change their name until the whole country is just called "Springfield"?

>>149464692
The Great Lakes are navigable to the sea. So is the Mississippi River.

>>149465174
Pfft no, don’t be stupid it’s just a common name like elm street or main street you tinfoil fool.

>>149461239 (OP)
North Tacoma. You can see it on Homer's drivers license.

>>149464176
Illinois fits the backstory pretty well, with the log cabin and civil war stuff.

>>149461239 (OP)
Its in springfield duh, what do you expect? dummy

>>149465219
So, how long were they in that boat, floating down a river until they got to the open Atlantic? You're telling me they crossed five states?
>>149465345
Are not aware of how invested the east was in the civil war?

>>149465435
>how long were they in that boat, floating down a river until they got to the open Atlantic?
A scene cut.

Has to be near a nuclear power plant, no?

The geography is physically impossible for it to be anywhere.

>>149461239 (OP)
It's Oregon.

>>149461239 (OP)
State of Confusion.

>>149461239 (OP)
Ohio

>>149461239 (OP)
Massachusetts

>>149461239 (OP)
>There are 41 states in the nation that's named Springfield

there really aren't

>>149464176
the East Coast doesn't have any Sonoran desert areas or canyons like Springfield Gorge either

but Springfield was settled by Hans Sprungfeld in 1796, so it couldn't be further west than the eastern extent of French Louisiana (which was huge and ran from Mexico to Canada) if the town was always in, and founded as part of, the United States, and it couldn't be any further south than the flat bit bordering Louisiana (the state) and Mississippi (also the state) that runs across through Alabama, Georgia and Florida, because everything south of that line was established to be a Spanish possession in 1795 by the US-Spanish Treaty of Madrid

>>149465930
Oregon is the Learn to Fart state?

>>149465435
>Are not aware of how invested the east was in the civil war?
Everything about Jedidiah Springfield reads as west of the Ohio but East of the Mississippi. Doesn't fit for New England or Appalachia, and Springfields state is canonically a northern aligned state. Illinois would fit in here.

>>149461718
why doesn't Bart have arms

also no, Tejas wasn't a state of the Union or even part of the Union until 1845 and was another country from 1836, prior to which it was part of Mexico, which rules out Texas as Springfield was founded in the US in the 1790s (and only moved five miles when the whole town was moved)

>>149461281

It would have to be one of the Border States or the Upper South because it had split allegiances during the American Civil War. Given the frontiersman circlejerking around Jedediah Springfield, that would indicate that Springfield is in a Western state that was not part of the original 13 Colonies. We also can infer that it's not in Missouri because of Abe Simpson's refusal to recognize that state. So that would narrow it down to

>Kentucky - Border State in the West that had split loyalties during the Civil War (pic related)
>Kansas - Union state that nevertheless had some pro-Confederate sentiments due to the influx of proslavery militants during the Bleeding Kansas period
>Tennessee - Confederate state that nonetheless had strong pro-Union sentiments to the point of having more Southern Unionists under arms than any other Confederate state

>>149468657
>and Springfields state is canonically a northern aligned state

It's a former slave state (the Simpsons are literally at least partially descended from Southern planters) that furnished Confederate troops during the Civil War so that would pretty much eliminate any Union state that isn't Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri.

>>149461239 (OP)
I'm told at the very least that Moe's is based on a bar Matt drank at while in college at Evergreen, but this is likely apocryphal.

>>149470132
in The PTA Disbands the Springfield Brigade at Fort Springfield were clearly Union and attacked and killed greyshirts

The Color Yellow does unambiguously state that Virgil was a slave in Springfield - and this is implied to be the same Springfield - which pushes the town a lot further West than it should be given the founding date of 1796

but if it was founded after the Louisiana Purchase and Springfield/Shelbyville's expedition only set out in 1796 but founded the town inexplicably like 10 years later, they could be as far west as Montana or as far south as Louisiana, but unless Jebediah Springfield got SUPER lost and was incredibly old (given he was already an adult man with a career as a notorious pirate when he met George Washington), it couldn't be anywhere in the former Republic of Texas or Second Mexican Republic except maybe the two 1819 portions of the Spanish cession (and even that requires that it took 23 years for the colonists to found Springfield and Shelbyville)

Abe does say "I'll be in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri" in Homer Badman, which may imply a Kansas or Oklahoma panhandle locale for Springfield, with Abe remembering the Missouri Compromise as a bad thing for his ancestors

but then they went to Canada anyway so it's possible that's an entirely different Springfield and (most) of the Springfield descendants of the other characters in that story simply come from very large family trees (Mr Burns graduated Yale in 1913, so that was possibly his father, or an uncle he knew; his mother appears to be vaguely southern based on her accent)

>>149470664
>in The PTA Disbands the Springfield Brigade at Fort Springfield were clearly Union and attacked and killed greyshirts

The fact there were Confederate soldiers even in the vicinity of Fort Springfield would indicate that it was in a Border State with split loyalties (i.e. Springfield voted to remain in the Union, Shelbyville voted for secession, further contributing to the bad blood between the two) since the war was almost entirely fought within the slave states. With the exception of Gettysburg, no major battles took place in a free state. While smaller incursions did periodically occur (most notably Morgan's Raid), nearly of these were mounted with cavalry (relying the ability to rapidly deploy and withdraw by horseback as needed) and the Confederates portrayed in The PTA Disbands are all on foot.

They live in New Jersey because we have the best and worst people :D

>>149468573
Looks more like the tip of a penis. If the Simpsons were an edgier show, they'd make that joke

>>149461571
Where's bumville? I also didn't see the home of the creator of itchy and scratchy

>>149469939
>and only moved five miles when the whole town was moved
I'll be at Moe's