Thread 149471289

is ti safe to say that Superman is back?

>>149471311
400M+ domestic is very good though

>>149471329
>though
kek

>>149471329
It's not reaching 400 domestic. FF is next week and tracking for nearly the same opening. That's where Supes audience is going.

In the end this will reach about 550-600M worldwide.

>>149471358
Nah, it's reaching 400M

>>149471289 (OP)
>caring this much about the opinions of twitter poos
Please go outside

>>149471289 (OP)
One day you’ll learn how to make a thread that isn’t about a tweet.

>>149471440
I've been on 4chan for 15 years.

>>149471289 (OP)
If you care about the kinomatic arts and these numbers make sense to you, no you don't

>>149471445
Prove it.

>>149471311
someone put me on the loop on why people think indians hate the new superman

>>149471478
Zack Snyder made what is basically a Bollywood series and tossed in some biblical references and since the average Indian IQ hovers around 75, they thought it was brilliant.

>>149471478
hating on browns like Indians or Mexicans is the 4chan cope whenever they want a boogeyman
that being said, Snyder has a strong Indian following. not all of them are Snyderfags, but the ones that are tend to be very vocal on the internet

>>149471478
Funny thing is that India is one of the foreign markets where Superman reached #1

>>149471478
You can just witness it on social media, for one. They're attracted to the stylized, slo-mo ubermensch mythology of it all. Which is fine, I liked the Snyder flicks too. But they're viscerally repulsed by the colorful cast of characters, and romance, in the new one. The pop trappings, the other DC heroes who they don't know or care about. They want strong, sinuous men doing epic battle, like these men India is a lion too sir.

>>149471289 (OP)
Yes

>Warner brass: Yeah, the numbers are good enough, we'll be moving forward.
>Funko Pop box office obsessives on Twitter: Is there somebody you forgot to ask...?

>>149471519
like I said, just a defensive thing for 4chan to randomly blame anything on. "Snyderjeet" and "Gunnjeet" are both terms used in these threads and often neither are true

>>149471519
>>149471578
India is not a monolith, you know. Just like here. There's a mass normie public, and also a large contingent of reactionary posters. People are not referring to 50 year old Indian dads taking their wife and kids, but the outspoken younger population online.

So should i like the new superman?

I only accept answers from evil far-right chuds individuals (don't lie to me, i can see your 4chan account).

Its a flop. 500-600 million for your 2nd biggest hero is flop numbers. Plus Supergirl and Clayface are next and those both will flop harder at the box office. Gunn failed the DCU.

>>149471329
>400M+ domestic is very good though
I'd agree if Thunderbolts and/or FF had those numbers, but for fucking Superman that's pretty bad. He is the most recognizable and iconic superhero, but he can't even get more than 600M+ domestic.

>>149471621
You should not. Unless you want to see him screaming when zapped with 45 trillion kilowatts from the sun, or when he's about to be spaghettified by a black hole. Superman is famously a stoic who maintains a stiff upper lip no matter what. So don't waste your time.

>>149471687
400M is 30M more than what The Batman 2022 grossed.

>>149471687
>He is the most recognizable and iconic superhero,
Batman and Spider-man both wipe their ass with Superman.

>>149471687
That's a bs metric, the most recognizable and iconic thing. I don't need to tell you his brands been tarnished over the years as a wimpy boy scout and the bitch antagonist to epic Batman. He doesn't actually have the cultural cache you imagine to anyone under like 55.

>>149471701
Imagine a threesome with Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man

>>149471289 (OP)
Is that cume a good cume?

>>149471289 (OP)
Remember when people used to talk about the movies themselves and why they did or didn't like them instead of spouting box office numbers to hide that they can't articulate opinions

>>149471718
Very good.
For context here are the domestic grosses for other CBMs
>Batman 2022 - 369.3M
>Spider-Man Homecoming 333M
>Far From Home - 390M

>>149471735
I'm not judging the movie by it's box office, but the box office is very important as a gauge of interest in the movie, characters, and the overall universe.

>>149471701
>>149471714
Show the Superman symbol to anyone in the world and you will get an answer. Superman IS recognizable, and it would be strange to think otherwise.

>>149471735
Yeah, that was like a week ago. If you want to actually talk about a movie now you have to do so in the first few days after release, after that it’s all just corporate wars.

>>149471701
Come on, dude. I'm not talking about Batman and Spider-Man. But Superman doing the same as a bunch of literally whos like Thunderbolts. That's bad. Unimaginably bad.

>>149471692
thanks

>>149471773
>But Superman doing the same as a bunch of literally whos like Thunderbolts
Superman's domestic gross alone is expected to be TB's worldwide gross, what are you talking about?

>>149471778
Also, if the Asian market still cared about comic book movies, every comic book movie would have done way better.
But Asians are over it. F4 is tracking to do just as bad in the Asian market as Superman did. They just don't care anymore.

>>149471746
Come on man. Yeah recognizable, wow. Recognizable from kids birthday napkins or thier dad's telling him about him. Recognizable in an iconic historic way, sure. But not hot. Boomers grew up with Reeves on tv every day and his comics selling like hotcakes, then they shared '78 with elder gen x. Same with Super Friends. Millennials had a couple somewhat niche Bruce Timm series and the Snyder movies geared more toward adults. The current in demand demographic knows him as only an icon only a symbol, and a cheesy one at that. Dated, corny. I think that changes somewhat w this flick, but his "brand" currently is nowhere near the cultural juggernaut of the MCU. It's not even a contest.

>>149471787
>but his "brand" currently is nowhere near the cultural juggernaut of the MCU
Do you think FF will surpass Superman's box office?

>>149471804
They're going to do about the same. Superman will have a higher domestic gross, F4 will have a higher international gross, but both are going to do poorly internationally.;

>>149471804
>Do you think FF will surpass Superman's box office?
100%
MCU is still popular and normies adore Pedro

>>149471787
Just admit that you hate Superman, anon.

>>149471804
I don't know, I honestly don't think about that stuff much. On one hand, Supes brought out families that aren't mcu devotees. On the other, again, the MCU brand is still so strong or at least has a massive army of devotees counting on this to be a return to form so maybe.

>>149471816
Man, I was expecting this and it's a shame that was your takeaway. I'm a huge fan and an currently looking at a shelf full of his books, couple action figures, I still have bogdavove tee shirt from 32 years ago I wear, my cats name is Clark, I can go on. I love him, you may or may not love him, but if you're playing dumb on the concept that his brand has struggled idk what to tell you.

>>149471699
>It's actually a bit more than that shitty movie where they crap on the patriarchy while some dude flies on a squirrel suit!
Okay so this movie is a tiny bit better than shit

>>149472031
Don't forget how Catwoman blames white men for all her problems

>>149472042
Thank you. My wife and me left at this part. I don't have a wife actually but if I did I'd demand for her to get up and leave with me and if not she'd be walking home.

>>149471737
All of those had far highier international numbers than Superman, which is why it won't gross past 600, maybe less

>>149471598
>but the outspoken younger population online
you literally just mentioned how India is not a monolith, what makes you think every jeet on the internet is a Snyderfag

>>149471289 (OP)
I don't care about Warner.

>>149471478
>Snyder is le bad and... indiands... uhh
Don't mind Marvelfags. They are schizoids.

>>149471519
This fucking destroy the anti Snyder narrative. Because it was always a lie to begin with.

>>149471478
They don't. It was a success in India.
Wokies always deflect on indiands and mexicans.
Funny how they cry about le racism minutes later.

>>149471445
No, you don't, twitterqiqe.

>>149471379
No it isn't, FF will take most of Superman's audience.

>>149473297
>Every
I think this is your hangup, but if you look at the line you're quoting you'll see the word, "outspoken." Those that post the most or most passionately. I hope this helps. Or is it your contention that Snyder fans online are *not* outspoken?

>>149471478
It's racism dude, as you can see in this thread

>>149471289 (OP)
>>149471358
I hate to break your heart sister, but it's already at $400M worldwide.

In the same way that Jurassic's box office (or Lilo's/How to Tame/F1 or any other OTHER movie's box office) was not frozen once Superman came out, Superman will NOT stop making money when FF comes out.

>>149473608
Source?

Anecdotal obviously but I went to the theater, for only the second time in two years, to see Superman, but have no interest in FF. Two buddies and thier families same deal, saw Supes this past week but little interest in FF. I think there's a lot of people like that. Not saying how it will shake out, I guess the MCU fans are hyped for it. But I don't think they'll have the "I literally never go to theaters but will make an exception for this one" audience.

>>149471814
The last two MCU films underperformed and Pascal is over played now.

>>149473882
It will be interesting to see how FF performs. The MCU brand is still strong, but there's never been a frame of reference for a good Fantastic Four movie. Superman's a pop culture icon backed by the Christopher Reeve movies. The new Superman movie kinda plays out more like a Fantastic Four story than what the MCU film seems to be headed.

>>149474167
>twitter
Yeah... no

>>149473829
Do you think people stop watching movies that are in theaters when a new movie comes out? Especially ones with strong words of mouth like Superman and really good legs like Superman?
Are you retarded?

>>149474367
So...no source

>>149471687
>He is the most recognizable and iconic superhero, but he can't even get more than 600M+ domestic.
Because paradoxically the character doesn't have much of a fanbase these days. People KNOW of Superman but only a fraction of those people actually call themselves fans of him.

>>149474536
Well, it's been trending like Across the Spiderverse did at the box office and, again, movies don't stop selling tickets when another movie comes out.
Are you seriously that much of a retarded nigger?

>>149471692
>Superman is famously a stoic who maintains a stiff upper lip no matter what.
This is literally his most boring characterization though.

The best versions of Supes are the ones where he actually emotes LIKE A FUCKING HUMAN BEING, which is what he more or less is.