It’s always been retarded, but here’s a comprehensive vid on why it fails basic Christian ideas. https://youtu.be/nUmXtcGg_S8
No one would care about the inaccuracies if it wasn’t so lame either. Did you notice any inaccuracies when watching

Also screw you Mr. “Buy an add” I’ll post whoever I want

I don't fucking care and anybody who doesn't spend their whole day on TikTok watching Jesus edits or something won't care either, Hazbin wasn't made to be accurate to Christianity and in fact it takes things from other cultures too. From all the criticism you can have about the show this is the worst one and you should feel bad
Kill yourself OP

>I don't like the fact that a cartoon is not 100% in line with my desert fantasy, here's an entire 48 minutes essay about it.
No one cares and I am not watching all that long ass shit. I doubt Ms. Medrano gives a shit either.

>>149477169
>Ms. Medrano
Siiiiimp

If this board is still worth half a shit it will let this shitty post die

>failed youtubers can't even get 200k views with anti viv slop
>meanwhile viv got another amazon contract

>>149477108 (OP)
It's hard to find christian content that isn't either 99% based off the source material
or straight up slop
Probably because in the actual bible God doesn't even want you to make images or art of anything in Heaven
So if you create a fanfiction that was only 30% accurate to the real thing you'd be guilty if someone tries to make an idol of said material.
So by definition if Vivzie ends up making any of the fags and queers watch her show worship some demon she is cooked

>>149477275
There's at least a few /x/fags trying to summon Loona or Stolas so...

>>149477289
Seriously? That’s pathetic

>>149477108 (OP)
No adaptation 100% perfectly recreates the bible or its mythology, not even the much glazed Prince of Egypt. So why make a thread or video bitching about the fact that HH didn't do what no piece of media has ever done before? Its almost like you just don't like HH and want to sound smart about not liking it so you apply a standard you dont have for any other film, series, or book cuz Viv bad

>>149477289
The funny thing is if they try to summon Loona no angels are female.
They are all sexless.
So if they do end up summoning something that looks like it's going to be a demon succubus taking on an apparition of a familiar form.
>But then how do succubuses work!
Succubuses are just demons pretending to take on a female form.
Most demons are repulsed by sex due to their formerly angelic nature but there are some degenerate enough or evil enough to get past the digust and make humans do sexually immoral things.

>>149477347
I just thought it would be interesting to look at

>>149477270
Hazbin Hotel has hideous characte design.

>>149477415
I can’t stand people trying to redesign them either. Just admit they’re unsalvageable

>>149477415
It's because it follows western slop design principles.
Even then if they tried to make the show biblically accurate the demons would be formless and just take on the appearance of hideous apparitions

>>149477458
Oh and also their "city" would be more like a prison in the void with all the characters bound in chains wandering a dimension that looks like a desert void of any life

>>149477289
Stolas is possible, but not Loona.

>>149477503
Btw "sinners" don't go to hell.
The fact that there is a sinner class in vivzie hell is an oxymoron. All humans are sinners after the fall.
Hell is more like a prison that is heavily infiltrated by a cartel/mafia but since it is basically a spiritual alcatraz non of the spirits there can escape.

>>149477108 (OP)
>>149477152
Buy an ad. Everyone ready knows Viv can't write for shit and only cares about pop culture heaven/hell.

I legitimately hope those censorship bans strike streaming services so vizieslop will have to cull her entire legacy

May conservative strike fear into these indie fags so we have to have actual good cartoons

>Christian ideas
Oh there's a laugh.

>>149477554
Like I said before even though there may be no demons named Loona a demon might try to mess with said anon and pretend to be Loona and manifest an apparition that looks like her if it keeps him away from God.

>>149477593
Saints

>>149477614
Sounds retarded

>>149477593
m'lady

The show is just AWFUL. And vivzie is overly sensitive about any kind of constructive criticism.

>>149477635
Yes falling for succubi seduction is very retarded

>>149477157
If you're going to make an action cartoon lampooning the sport of bass fishing as a kind of supernatural combat saga, it behooves you to know more than 0 things about real life fishing.

>>149478054
kek, I've gotta give Vivzie credit though. She at least knows a few terminology and names

>>149478054
That's the point though if anyone actually portrayed God in the proper way we'd only criticize ourselves all the time

>>149477108 (OP)
No one cares

>>149477108 (OP)
>Adam wouldn’t be a egotistical fowl mouth womanizing mass murderer
If anything Adam would be completely pure. It’s Eve’s dumbass that cost humanity paradise.

>>149477108 (OP)
You're the retarded one for thinking Hellaverse was meant to be Christian-adjacent in the first place.
You took it too seriously, and now you're paying the price.

>>149477191
How can one find ShitziePop sexually appealing? She looks like this irl, she’s a fat fuck who wants to peg a skinny twink hence why she designs all her male characters like that

>>149477108 (OP)
Hazbin was never meant to include an accurate portrayal of Christianity, or else it's entire concept would be impossible to make. It's meant to be Viv's gay shipping fanfiction with a plethora of "muh christian family abused me!!!" bullshit thrown in to keep her audience of tumblr and bluesky addicts tuned in and crying how Charlie is literally them, and then 100 musical numbers to get theater kids jumping for joy.
The character of lucifer being a goofy freedom loving duck addict is just entirely wrong in itself since biblically he was trying to overthrow God due to his own prideful nature and was banished in turn for it, but it works because it's supposed to be juxtaposing Heaven in the show which is portrayed as an authoritarian regime with a facade of being perfect in every way, which will most definitely conclude in some kind of ending with a "Lucifer was right, hell is the real heaven!" idea and everyone will have a giant gay orgy in the end. Lucifer existing when Satan exists in the same universe is an inaccuracy in itself since biblically Lucifer IS Satan, but it doesn't matter to Viv as it's not the point of the show at all to be accurate in any way, just to make hell a heaven for fujoshis and homos.

>>149477646
I know, right? The more the better

>>149478382
I hate Vivzie, but there are fatfags out there

>>149477578
Thanks for coming

>>149478382
>Comparing an ugly fat pig to MIss Piggy
For shame.

>>149478586
Kermit dropped the ball hard with her.

>>149478444
'Biblically lucifer is satan' Lul wut. They're never stated to be the same character, the only suggestion of such is in the book of Job and in that case Satan (Meaning adversary) acts as an adversary and devils advocate to god as is his assigned role, unlike lucifer who forsook his role. Please learn about what your talking about before making authoritative claims.

>>149477108 (OP)
Imagine Vivzie getting into Leviticus

>>149478444
>Lucifer existing when Satan exists in the same universe is an inaccuracy in itself since biblically Lucifer IS Satan
This is not true

>>149477415
Saying this while there is almost always at least two separate simp threads for her characters is kinda dumb. More like she has hideous quality stability in her designs, when sher through blind luck and sheer amount of them stumbles at ones that work perfectly in her style and then goes back to edgy red slop.

>>149477108 (OP)
Hazbin Hotel is literal satanist propaganda and it feels like a part of the point of it is to reject and rebel against modern american evangelical ideals. It is made by shallow queer californian womanchildren cartoonists. No fucking shit they didn’t carefully research the mythology and devote time and effort to accurately portraying the religious texts of a culture they are trying to insult. They can barely handle keeping their own tv show’s canon straight and keeping their own staff from jumping ship.

I don’t need a youtube video to tell me they fell for the “biblically accurate angel” meme and then used that as a weird backdrop for their gay furry fantasies.

>OP is a fag
>here's a video
Advertising Nigger

>>149479001
Thanks for coming

>>149478786
Do you have more goat Charlie?

>>149479027
Nah, sadly that's the only one such pic in my collection

>>149479158
Then get more, jeez

>when your theology is so fucked that not even your fan wiki can keep up

https://www.reddit.com/r/HazbinHotel/comments/18j6tdv/vivziepop_confirms_that_charlie_is_not_in_fact_a/

>>149477108 (OP)
I don’t know what the fuck you’re on, but biblical accuracy is clearly not a priority for these people.

That's nice, dear. Tell me, when did her shitty shows once mention Christ or even show a cross? I'm not sure jeebus even exists in her shitty, poorly thought out universe.

>>149479490
I like how the video explains the St. Peter Cross

>>149479457
Seethe harder, Piggypop

>>149479457
>She just now realized who won the 2024 election.

>>149478326
Reminds me of an old Irish "hymn" forced to be sung by women in the middle ages from Eve's point of view. Translated to English, it's something like "I am Eve, Adam's wife. I'm the one who pissed off God. I'm the one who stole heaven from my children. I'm the one who should have been crucified. I commanded an estate (not sure how to translate it) but I made an evil choice so now all must grieve and blame me for the crime that has crippled humanity. I am unclean. I took the apple, I was greedy, it's my fault women are foolish from birth and as long as they live. There would be no cold, no winter, no hell, no sadness, no fear were it not for me. Blame me. I am Eve."
That's basically 4chan's view of women, anyway.

>>149479602
They can't help but write the same enemy over and over, their dads

>>149479634
Now I feel awful, and winter kicks ass, what are they talking about?

>>149479514
Didn't watch the video so I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>149479761
St. Peter’s Cross is the upside-down one stupid satanists co-opted. St. Peter requested to be crucified upside-down because he didn’t feel worty enough to be crucified the same way Jesus did. It’s supposed to be a symbol of humility

Buy a fucking ad, cuntnugget.
Everyone else, report the OP en masse for shilling and arguably a false flagging raid request.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=149477108

>>149479668
That Eve caused the fall of man and all blame belongs to her and her daughters.
It's in old Irish so I may have some of the translation wrong but that's the gist of it

>>149479914
The mods don't care

>>149479916
That’s cruel, but I mean why are they deriding Winter so hard?

>>149479891
I know that much but I didn't watch the video to know how they explain the cross specifically.
>>149479930
Bitch, you ever been in a northern European winter?

>>149479914
You don’t have to watch it.

>>149479972
I wish

>>149480000
YoU dOnT hAvE tO wAtCh It
Half this board is just crossposting from other sites and dumb shit like this "GUYS THIS RANDOM NOBODY HAS AN OPINION" bullshit use your fucking brains for once to make an opinion fucking retarded faggot

>>149480029
I think it’s an abomination that either Vivzieslop shows ever got greenlit, how’s that?

>>149480066
See was that so hard

>Hell is just Americacitytown with furries
wow how fucking originall. Im suprised it isnt fucking set in Hell: Highschool
Also why isnt Hitler and such there?
>B-Because he would be killed instantly
Bullshit there would already be horde of his worshippers there first and do exactly that which should give him much more power then Radiofag.

>>149479668
Winter only kickass because we have things like grocery stores and modern heating.

>>149480084
I didn’t mean to piss you off. It’s just that no one else officially discussed Vivzie’s theological retardation and I thought it would be an interesting new talking point.

>>149480091
If not Adolf, then many other dictators and their supporters would also be there.
Where's Mao, or Stalin, or Pol Pot?

>>149480223
Poof

>>149480108
Not him but I’ll discuss it. Like I heard that Jesus doesn’t exist in the setting but I don’t see how the fuck that’s possible.

>>149480223
>Where's Mao
Reincarnation.
>or Stalin
Soul in the possession of ancient Caucasian demon.
>or Pol Pot
Agatha.

>>149480231
First of all, in the real world, Jesus was begotten. He’s always existed in some form depending on who you ask.

Second, that’s been exactly my main problem with this show from the beginning: once you’re in hell, that’s it, you’re finished. Everything else is just the pus that oozes from that boil salad of a premise

>>149480265
Mao wasn't Buddhist enough, and too materialistic for reincarnation.

>>149480265
RAGATHA?!

>>149480327
That is the grand irony of it. He is trapped in the prison in spite of himself.

>>149480309
What sect do you believe in?

>>149480367
I believe Jesus died for our sins so we don’t need to suffer and being Christ-like is proof of his love. Not sure about sects, do you have one?

>>149480349
And then he had a cartoon cat named after him that got cancelled

>>149480537
What I mean is are you Protestant, Catholic, orthodox, one of the other many denominations?

>>149480585
I think protestant.

>>149480585
With Catholics, there’s a little too much importance put on some deeds over others, and I don’t even know what they’re doing with Eastern Orthodoxy

>>149480091
>>149480223
>>149480226
>>149480265
See if the whore in charge of this had a singular braincell working then the entire end-twist woudlnt be "akshually Heaven bad" or whatever stupid thing its going to be but that "Hell is people" and thos clinging most to power are trapped in hell forever by their own making while those who accept their punishment dont get double-killed (because thats retarded) but actually escape purgatory that way and ascend.
But that wont be the case because she already confirmed this is our Earth and that Hitler just got super-killed instantly because clearly he was too evil for Hell itself or some shit. Which would mean Adolf and all the other dictators, unlike some radio-host show guy(?) didnt even spend a day in Purgatory and I doubt thats what she wants to go for.

>>149477108 (OP)
I don’t think they were trying to anon.
It’s like calling it a failure of a batman movie (“he wasn’t even in it at all!”) - the criteria you’re trying to fit it to aren’t relevant.

>>149480868
That’s a good take

>>149480537
>God had a grudge against man, so he sent himself to earth so he could have himself killed in order to forgive his grudge against the people that he will have kill him
This makes sense to some people.

>>149480949
Well he didn’t have a grudge, man directly disobeyed simple commands because flesh is weak. God understood this and sent his son to pay for it.

Sin is more the absence of something good than something that exists itself.

>>149480868
Or just have there be more afterlifes, though she would fuck up those as well given she doesn’t really give a shit about mythology and culture.

>>149480949
Atheists really suck at reading comprehension for some reason

>>149481046
It’s pretty disturbing what her main priorities are. https://x.com/kremlin_art/status/1634661642163339264

>>149477108 (OP)
Guy is literally preaching to the choir.

>>149481053
It’s alright. These are important questions that need to be and can be addressed. Nothing can suppress truth.

>>149481070
>https://x.com/kremlin_art/status/1634661642163339264
>hell is full of faggots and furries but not Nazis, Tankies, Redcoats and Mongols
what did Vivzie mean by this?

>>149481203
She's affirming the part of Leviticus that tells you not to have same sex relations, or relations with beasts

>>149481203
Tbf, they have them in heaven too according to Vivzie

>>149477578
I agree, Viv should buy an ad.

>>149477584
I hope for mass censorship of liberal art. I cannot wait until something good happens to our society for once.

>>149478444
good post. Basically Viv is a degenerate.

Could she redeem the villain of the last show you watched?

>>149479647
>They can't help but write the same enemy over and over, their dads

figurative and actual

>>149477578
I think (you) should buy an ad

>>149477108 (OP)
Y'know Christianity isn't real, right? Anything anybody makes up about it is just as valid as "real official Christian canon" because it's all made up

>>149477108 (OP)
>Video essays by people who can barely speak.

>>149481433
I don’t know, she’ll have to get past the fact he’s an airhead

>>149481493
Just like your sex life

>>149481433
>yujiro
survey says no

>>149481433
probably not. Bro is hell bent of profiting off war.

>>149477108 (OP)
This reminds me of a weird comic with jesus exploring vizziehell

>>149481493
>Y'know Christianity isn't real, right? Anything anybody makes up about it is just as valid as "real official Christian canon" because it's all made up

>>149482101
Would you like to link it?

>>149482218
Actually never mind

>>149477289
>>149477554
It's funny, all those women buying Stolas merch are wearing and putting idols to an actual arch demon around themselves and homes.

Where the fuck did all of this demon shit come from anyway? Is it in the New Testament? We never learned about any of this stuff at my Catholic school

>>149482619
Jesus is shown on multiple occasions exorcising demons in the new testament.

>>149479972
>a northern European winter?
>Ireland
>average minimum temperatures above freezing all through winter

>>149482619
Apocrypha and legends. Some adopted from Jewish mysticism. Very little of it is canonical. The circles of Hell and their rough content come from Dante Alighieri.

>>149478382
>she’s a fat fuck who wants to peg a skinny twink
and i could be that skinny twink

>>149477108 (OP)
religion is for retards

>>149482415
I wish they'd put Stolas in an SMT game so I could beat the shit out of him.

THEY WON

>>149477108 (OP)
Y'know Islam isn't real, right? Anything anybody makes up about it are just pedophiles wet dream and want to have sex with imaginary virgins in heaven because it's all made up

>>149484148
Being made up or not is unrelated to whether something is an accurate representation of a major religion. Suppose that a depiction of Islam had the object in Mecca that they all aim at be a statue of Muhammad.

Christianity isn't the only religion that has hell. How would Hazbin/Helluva be different if they were based on Buddhist hell, or the hell of some other religion?

>>149478382
Hazbin hotel more like haz my nuts in your mouth HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHWHEHEHEHEHHWHWHWHEHE

>>149477108 (OP)
The problem with Vivziepop's contemporary pop fiction take on Christianity is that it should logically follow in the footsteps of Homestuck (Vivzie is a huge fan of it) and be a Gnostic Christian story except:

>Vivzie wants Heaven to be Bad while God (Demiurge) is Good (not a bad angle: some Gnostics believed this to be the case)
>except God (Demiurge) won't make an appearance in the series because Vivzie is afraid of pissing people off
>so God (Demiurge) might as well not exist despite everything hinging on his existence in the first place

It's ironic that Viv didn't want God to show up because if she had even the slightest understanding of Gnostic Christianity, she could still depict "God" (Demiurge) and also NOT depict God (Monad/Barbelos).

>>149484329
didn't the S2 leaks show an owl lady that's literally called the voice of god?

>>149484230
If Hazbin was based on the Buddhist hells:

>Hell is divided into eight sections, each section containing a "cold hell" and a "hot hell"
>Everyone goes to Hell when they die to be purged of their accumulated Karma (in the process of achieving full results)
>Unripened karma is what allows for reincarnation: kinder people end up reincarnated as humans, while selfish people end up reincarnated as various animals
>Demons are tasked with purging evil and selfishness from Sinners, a process that allows for their own evil to be purged so that they may be reborn in the future as humans on Earth
>Should a human live a cruel and selfish enough life, they will manifest within the Hells as a Demon and be put to work

>>149484396
See, that's another weird thing about Vivzie is that even when she DOES rip from Christianity, she makes oddball choices. There is no "voice of God" character in the mythos with the exception of Metatron except Metatron is Enoch upgraded to become an Angel, specifically "lesser YHWH". That just makes things even more confusing

>no God or Jesus (no Monad, Demiurge, or Christ)
>but there's a Voice of God character
>but it's not Metatron????

>>149477108 (OP)
Hazbin Hotel isn't for christ redditors.