Something tells me that DC will be the top dog moving forward.

>>149491961 (OP)
that's not the face of a confident man, that's the face of fear

>>149491961 (OP)
Why make this the hill to die on? Out of all the retarded shit why choose this?

>>149491961 (OP)
It's funny badly libtards misunderstand all the "woke" criticisms. Like bro just adapt some good comics guys will actually want to see and shut up

>>149492003
>NOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE MOVIES THAT AREN'T ABOUT WHITE MEN
Grow up. Clean your room.

>>149491961 (OP)
You going to cry about it? It's been decades, it's about time you grew up.

>>149491961 (OP)
That's not even the problem. It's his terrible instincts for story direction, and the fact that he treats all of the villains like disposable afterthoughts instead of integral pieces of the story.

I believe he's simply gotten too old and that he's too used to having his hands forced behind his back and bent over a barrel to put up much of a resistance. I mean I won't be paying close attention but the writing has been on the wall that without Spider-Man Marvel is virtually finished. Feige's name isn't synonym with quality and hasn't been for a long time. Not every coach gets to ride off into the sunset with a perfect game. You had your heyday and you almost blew it at the finish line by throwing a bunch of money to fill empty theaters for Captain Marvel but your "legacy" is intact, Feige. Let someone else take a crack now because it's not doing anyone any favors to keep you on board.

>>149491961 (OP)
Kevin Feige is that old man who refuses to leave his home even after authorities pleaded with him to escape the incoming tidal wave.

>>149491961 (OP)
>The world outside your window
No, it’s a fictional world that I want to have fun looking at, not remind me of the world outside my window that I already have to experience every day by going to work.

>>149491961 (OP)
>Thunderbolts beat a big bad by grouphugging the negative emotions out of him
>woke
>Superman exists
>woke

I HATE THIS WOKE WORLD!

>>149492003
Good, let the butthurt flow through you.

>>149492189
They can make as many as they want but they're going to continue to flop

>>149492367
Captain Marvel made a billion dollars, cope more.

>>149492189
Woke and DEI are literally the most superficial kind of writting there is
>This is awesome because there is a minority
>This is actually well written because there is a minority
I will never support the overestimation of superficiality in writting, it's such a corporate and out of touch way to make your stories

>>149492448
Captain Marvel is also a well loved character that people remember fondly lmao

>>149491961 (OP)
yeah famous chud James Gunn lmaoooo

>Hated Perlmutter, a known friend of Trump
>Got Perlmutter removed from Marvel as soon as he could
>Somehow people are surprised he made this sort of statement

>>149492427
>I am gonna quote someone that isn't here
Schizo a little? This place is not the usual echo chambers you are used to

>>149492448
That bitch rode the hype train of Endgame, popularity had nothing to do with it

>>149492523
Wrong post, ESL?

>>149492471
Ok, but what if the Woke and DEI are a CREATIVE choice?

>>149492423
>The world outside your window
That's literally what Stan himself used to say, and why the X-Men were all about allegories and shit.

>>149493355
Then it is not DEI or Woke, the problem is when they get pretentious about it

>>149491961 (OP)
But DC is even more woke with Israel being the bad guy of the movie

>>149493805
>Then it is not DEI or Woke
No, it still is. Look up the actual definitions when you have the time (because Janny seems to have a problem when I try to post em here).

>>149491961 (OP)
James Gunn literally killed Netanyahu in the first major theatrical release of his new universe, in the same year that Marvel had a movie with Sabra in it until they hit the panic button at the last second and removed the Israel references.
DC is already more woke than Marvel.

>>149494065
>hating jews
>woke

>>149494065
>>149494477
Hating israel is normal.

>>149494505
Hating Israel because you hate Jews isn't woke, but hating Israel's government because of the actions of Israel's government is.

>>149494524
>>149494561

>>149494505
the left see jews are white and view Israel as a white colonization thing or some shit.

Basically Israel are bad guys because they're white and Palestine are victims because they're brown

>>149491961 (OP)
Not with Gunn and the last few DCEU shitstains, Shitlennial quip comedy ain't comedy.

I am NOT a Snydertard

>Marvel is the world outside your window
>Somehow still 20x whiter than New York City actually is
No?

>>149492494
Gunn is woke but he understands that being preachy kills box office. Some Variety douchebag tried concerning him into saying something about MAGA during the premiere, and Gunn didn't take the bait and just said "this is a movie for everyone"

>>149494427
Making a character black because i had a dream of it is not the same as making them black because i think it's IMPORTANT and NECESSARY

>>149492494
>>149494732
People are just too reliant on buzzwords. Someone who's WOKE woke would've kept the high evolutionary white and wouldn't have had Cat Grant's jugglies out like in the new movie

>>149491961 (OP)
Are you somehow implying that the superman movie wasn't woke? It had ton of pilitical propaganda, the director literally said the movie was political.

>>149492003
Because nobody is dying on any hill. "Go woke, go broke" isn't real.

>>149494877
This
did people not see Gunn talking about superman being an immigrant and shit. Disingenuous fucker is comparing a baby escaping an exploding planet to mexicans

>>149494856
>Someone who's WOKE woke would've kept the high evolutionary white
I actually find it interesting that "wokeness" has evolved to a point that having black villains is considered fine, and even gay villains as long as they're not stereotypical. My guess is that there's so many "good" black and gay characters that it's not seen as a problem, and if anything portraying black and gay people as flawless would be cringe.
You still can't get away with trans people as villains though, I wonder if that will ever be acceptable.

>>149494505
yes only the woke dei left hate israel. all right wingers support israel like trump says

>>149492266
they could only dream of making a villain this based.

>>149492423
this, I'm around nigs and jeets every day, he isn't, he's around other rich people.

his punishment should be dragged down to where we are, for years, I want him to deal with Nigs who will, for any reason, start a violent conflict with you.

or the Jeets who will surround and smile at your women and try to molest them infront of you.

>>149491961 (OP)
>The world outside your window
Why do these fags always think everyone lives in LA?

>>149495060
because they are rich retards, and it pays (in that they keep their jobs) to espouse this shit.

you think he believes it? he's a cutthroat rich faggot who spends all his time muscling out his competition, and likely also sexually harassing women any chance he can get.

he isn't "woke" on the inside, he's woke on the outside, because everyone in the industry has to swear by it.

>>149492487
Too bad they never tried giving him a movie

You know that shot of all the heroines in Endgame helping out Spider-Man takes you right the fuck out of the movie

>>149495133
he got two, but the second one was bland and they had to use OC villains because the rock was too busy stroking himself to superman

>>149491961 (OP)
Good. He's basically saying he's gonna stick to his guns and not be intimidated, especially by fat, ugly pedos.

>>149495215
he's in Hollywood, all his friends are Pedo's.

>>149491961 (OP)
Too bad he'll never have an actual progressive message and will just stick to female empowerment.
I firmly believe if they stopped treating the multiverse like the be-all end-all for story telling and made the overall message of the MCU something like Alien or Blade Runner, people will be interested again.

>>149495215
Why would a fat, ugly pedo be intimidated by fat, ugly pedos in the first place?

>>149495244
female, trans, and queer """empowerment""", and by that, just making them powerful and perfect and right, zero conflict, zero Hero's journey arc, just starting out at the endgoal.

MCU Black Widow is the epitome of this, though she's way less abrasive than other female leads in the MCU, she just starts out perfect, flawless, and always the "adult in the room" of the bunch, then dies saving the Multiverse by being better a even killing herself than Hawkeye.

she has no arc, she has no development, she ends just as she starts, smug, above everyone around her, powerful, and complete.

>>149495215
Imagine defending corporate talk, if you want to include minorities just do it, but don't think you are changing the world because of it, elevating superficial traits as important only makes these writting trends feel out of touch and empty

>>149495301
BW was fine until they tried to make her really important, not every character needs the same level of importance even if they are in a team, there are different niches they can fill

Now I want to see a movie based on this science fiction horror story, where the entire globe is covered in an endless hell scape of just urban America, that these bozos think is real.

>>149495378
she was never fine, she was just unoffensive.

she's the worst kind of super hero, one that is presented at the very end of all their building to become the hero instead of just the man or women.

even her tragic crybaby backstory is something she shows no suffering over in the present, all her development happened off screen before we ever even met her.

there are ways to do this right, and it has been done by better writers in the Super Hero Genre, and I present to you, All-Might.

why? because even though we meet him he's already such a perfect hero that just him existing has cowed villains the world over.... he has to start the hero's journey again anyways.

he has to find his reason to continue in a world where he's powerless once again, and worse, a cripple, nothing more now than a mentor and a figurehead, and by later in the plot, a known powerless ex-superhero to everyone.

how does he cope? he gets back on the horse, suits up, and faces his archenemy once again, he learns to smile all over again, he laughs boldly in the face of death against a being he can never beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgR8yXk-zY
THAT is how you do that character type, not just make a flat character who goes fucking nowhere then dies

>>149495424
its called 50 years into our real future, anon.

Pajeets, Mexicans and Blacks in the sprawling Megacities we will build that are grey brutalist hellholes.

Kevin and crew will live in a Rich people Utopia, but you will be in the Slop megacities. or well, the next iteration of you and me as young men.

>>149495455
Marvel in its current iterration could never create a story/world as good as My Hero Academia, which is highly ironic, as the entire thing is based off Star Wars and the X-Men.

All-Might is literally Captain America Superman, but earnest, unlike how they do hero's, same with Deku just straight up being Spider-man.

>>149495455
I mean, BW was fine as just something cool to look at, the problem started when they pretended she was a character

>>149495619
no shit, that was what my post was about, retard.

>>149495599
>Deku just straight up being Spider-man.
All that ANGST in the anime reminded me more of the ultimate version.

>>149495806
well that's his edgy black suit phase.

>>149495657
Not really

>>149491961 (OP)
Damn guess I don't need to watch any more movies then.

>>149492423
grow up

>>149495836
Nah I don't mean the main kid, it's the universe in general.

I enjoy Disney products failing so this is great.

if you use the word woke in the typical chud sense its really already to late for you

if you use the word chud in the typical woke sense its really already to late for you

>>149491961 (OP)
>see new F4 tv-spot
>It's like a live-action version of the Incredibles!
kek they have to market these bums off the expy version of them. Imagine if WB marketed Superman as the live-action version of Metroman from Megamind.

>it's to late for me to crash multimillion businesses with Carol, America and Kamala
Damn.

>>149491961 (OP)
Screen Culture tweet tier post, fuck off.

>>149497973
Progressives believe in the word Woke and what it comes with, they just don't like its being used a pejorative.

>>149492427
>>Thunderbolts beat a big bad by grouphugging the negative emotions out of him
>>woke
That's not woke, that's pathetic and it's sad that X97 and D&W did the concept right while proving their villains were still villains and wouldn't change... because they ARE villains.

It's like people don't know what woke means. It's not casting minorities, but casting them based on "reparations".
Say, making Storm leader of the xmen ain't woke itself because she has proven herself being a tough leader who deserved the rank and she's been leader in the comics, but because "it's current year and it's time other than the white dude is the leader!" Those are different approaches and only one is the "woke" one.

>>149494856
>>149494932
wait but I thought Kang being black was woke
Make it make sense.

>Marvel is the world outside your window

Well, if that's the case then where are all the looting, raping, murdering nogs and the hateful kikes who will stop at nothing to see the White race genocided?

>>149492189
I'm married in a fully paid off house, loser. You grow up.