Bit of an awkward time for a new thread considering we're on our last few dozen pages, but what can you do? Hope you're enjoying the ride at the very least.

>First thread
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>Second thread
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>Third thread
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>>149511256 (OP)
>Bit of an awkward time for a new thread considering we're on our last few dozen pages
Leaves a bit of room for the after party.

>>149511365
I recall them selling actual watches as merch back in the day

>>149511256 (OP)
You can also post some of the bonus comics too.

>>149511695
Nice He-mam shout out.

And so our journey comes an abrupt end. Was this just an run of the mill fetish comic, or was the potential of something greater there? I'll let you be the judge. There's some miscellaneous filler pics that I have saved, but I've been at this for three days, I'm taking a well deserved break. If the thread is still here by tomorrow, I will dump those as well. To those who have stuck around, thank you for reading. Hope you enjoyed the ride

>>149511912
Thanks for all your hard work OP!
This was a fun trip down memory lane, and a bit beyond

I think tomorrow I'll start dumping El Goonish Shive, at more of a marathon pace than the sprint this was

>>149511912
Much appreciated, it was a fun walk down memory lane and it warms my heart knowing that the wotch still has unironic fans that appreciate what it tried to do despite its shortcomings

>>149511912
>The comic's last update is Miranda and Anne start arguing over their methods and how Miranda is hiding shit from Anne Fuck, I was right! I put good money that what was planned was for Miranda to slip up about Ivan during the argument and Anne catches on that Miranda's meddling goes deep.

>>149512036
Better pace yourself, Is a long comic.

>>149511912
Good work OP, I liked it surprisingly, it held up alright. Maybe the nostalgia cycle will allow it to live again.

>>149512036
>I think tomorrow I'll start dumping El Goonish Shive
God speed you mad bastard, you have a long task ahead of you.

>>149511912
>Was this just an run of the mill fetish comic, or was the potential of something greater there?
Yes and no.

Okay, I won't be a contrarian asswad and I'll bother elaborating. On the one hand, there are many points it could have been, such as the stories involving the other fantasy world, and I absolutely see where they took steps to try to make it more than that, like with the new writer regarding last plot. But on the other hand, is that really what the writers would have wanted? It honestly seemed that even with the pull towards more dramatic interpretations of the transformation shit, they always kept trying to draw it back towards random comedy. And in a way, does it HAVE to go further than just slice-of-life comedy misadventures if the writers ultimately don't want it to go further than that?

I don't know. And I don't want to be the kind of person who contacts the writers to demand an answer. The fact the comic has been dormant for so long may have given us the answer, that whatever steam the creatives have has run out or just is so deep into planning that it might as well be considered in hibernation.

>I'll let you be the judge
Honestly, I think that whatever else happens at this stage is in the realm of fanfiction. Cause while I could rib on The Wotch, I'm shelving my usual /co/mrade negativity to acknowledge that the creators put this much effort into what was basically a tribute to the stories their friend group told, and that on the insanely unlikely chance one of the creators new or old ever sees this, that I wish them the best for the future and that this last page isn't the last of their creative endeavors, whether it be going back to The Wotch or going on with their lives.

That said, if they ever decided to revisit this stuff and just had nothing else to say for The Wotch herself, I'd say just a comic of Xaos starting his reign of terror would do. I've always been a fan of Overlord, so I'd love to see what he did to become top dog.

>>149511912
>Was this just an run of the mill fetish comic, or was the potential of something greater there?
Started out as amatourishly written fetish comic and ended as amatourishly written action comic.
One could argue theres some potential here but what premise, cast and plot DOESNT have potential if its actually written competently.
Its a timecapsule with some neat ideas here and there but it clearly never could live up to its potential.

>>149512168
>Xaos
>Doing anything

>>149512269
Precisely, anon. Dude is like the ultimate example of whether the comic had the potential for something greater; If it actually did, then as far as I can see, it's definitely nowhere in the scope of whatever the hell the writers had planned for the future.

>>149512306
At times theres things that are interesting like character dynamics and how they deal with the literal mind fuck of having their bodies and what makes them who they are played with so casually.
Then theres Chris Chan teir stuff where things just go nowhere or are handwaved.

>>149511912
Thank you for your time and effort anon, The Wotch had a special place in my heart as one of the first webcomics and web communities I ever visited, for a time visiting the page when it updated was part of my (back then) much shorter internet sessions.

Lets not kid ourselves the wotch was too fetishistic to work for the general public, while the comic itself blends well its kinks with fun magical adventures and well rounded characters its also part of an early constellation of web content that was way less subtle on their kinks. There is no reality where you would see this in a news paper but it wasn't looking to do so, it was a fun webcomic that had its fan and I'm glad there are still some of us here enjoying it.

>>149512096
>>149512154
Are you unfamiliar with the Spider-Man storytime?

>>149512240
Yeah there's something to the... earnestness? Is that the word?
The author's are so transparently themselves in the creation

>>149512644
>earnestness
If someone tried to make it today they'd lampshade everything or drown it in irony

>>149512036
Take your time man, there's going to be a lot to discuss

>>149512527
Yeah, you can tell this work was done by the seat of their pants, since a lot of the stuff that's loosely handwaved or forgotten would be easily caught on a proper read. But still, as basically a two-man project for its entire life, it wasn't the worst.

>>149512703
This, the The Wotch is pre internet irony, the time when stuff was made by fans from fans.

>>149512644
>Yeah there's something to the... earnestness? Is that the word?
>The author's are so transparently themselves in the creation
Definelty something to be appericated, imagine how much more akward the stories and writing would be if the transformation fetish aspects were being almost entirely suppressed.

>>149511912
Thanks for the storytime, I'll bump the thread from time to time.

I'm the anon who tried to recover the Flash stuff, nothing I could do worked for most of the things so I ended up just screen recording the old animations instead.

>>149513058
Nothing beats Housepets suppressing its tf inclination for a decade and then letting it all out like it was The Wotch from the start

>>149513091
I have an appreciation for this flash animations, they had this little donation bar on the side of the page and the more it fill out it would change the characters into something else.

>>149513196
It's a pretty clever way of using the bar.

>>149511912
Will you also be doing the spinoff with the Cheerleaders?

>>149513421
I don't feel like digging around for that. If anyone wants to take up that mantle, be my guest

>>149511912
>>149512168
This storytime has give me a new appreciation for this comic, I think whatever you think of the TF stuff the core strength of the comic was having solid characters, Anne, Robin, and Jason are a great trio of protagonist and their supporting cast are pretty solid and likeable.

And while the tone of the story flip flops between episodic comedy, slice of life, and drama I think it did a solid job making me care about what happens next, it juggles well its humor with the slice of life and the action so nothing feels like it drags to long or feels stale.

If you had to pick a fetish to base your very own adventure fantasy webcomic what would you choose?

>>149513527
Do I have to restrict myself to the self-imposed PG-13 rating that every one of those at the time had?

>>149513433
>If anyone wants to take up that mantle, be my guest
Sure, why not, I'll do it after I finish reading the first 2 seasons of the Wotch and compiling the story in pdf.

>>149513547
Whatever you feel would fit the theme of your story.

>>149513519
Another thing is that it knows the main trio are the main characters and keeps the focus mostly on them so there's not a lot of character bloat.

>>149513527
I'm a /d/generate so it would end up pretty much like the Wotch in my case, but if I had to pick just one it would be about a guy forced to become magical girl, not the sailor moon variety more like those old ones where every episode the magical girl gets a new job and ends up in a different situation.

>>149513527
I read a lot of Delve back then so damsels in distress and vore if I could find a way to bring people back without it being a copout

>>149512644
>Yeah there's something to the... earnestness? Is that the word?
>The author's are so transparently themselves in the creation
The Wotch is the Highschool DxD of transformation webcomics, and most people like honesty. That way everyone knows what's up so you can tell a cool story and the weird stuff shows up, it isn't as obtrusive, since everyone knows it was gonna show up at some point.

>>149513527
Hard to say, mine are too mundane to make for a fun adventure, and if I pick something I'm mildly into at best should it still count as a fetish even if it has nothing going for you?

>>149513750
I mean, Anne technically got a Greek magical girl outfit >>149511707, or is more that Magical Girl Yuuki Valkyrie webcomic you're thinking of?

>>149513833
Not quite, back in the 80s Magical girls weren't like Sailor Moon or Sakura Card Captors, They didn't have a set "look/suit/uniform" it was more like they transformed every episode into something different for example the protagonist visits a farm there is a problem with the cattle so she transforms into a cowgirl to help the ranchers, or has to sneak into a school so transforms into a teacher to do the good deed, etc.

>>149513679
You know for such a large cast it does a good job not feeling bloated, There are a lot of side characters having their own little quirks and mini adventures but are unique and interesting enough you don't confuse them with each other.
You have the main trio, then you have Wolfie, Katie, Cassie and Evan as the more recurring and involved side characters.Then you have Ivan and the more background characters from the school like Canadian kid, the bodyswap duo, the cheerleaders, and an assortment of background characters that are recognizable enough to make you remember they exist when you see them. and then you have Xaos and his evil crew the resistance in this neat little pocket where they don't bother the main story. Is a pretty big cast but is not bloated.

>>149513196
>>149513374
Yeah, this was before patreon too, back then swapping money was harder.

>>149498555
>>149499190
>TFW there is no porn of the two androgynous femboys hate fucking Ivan until he gets fullly femenized.

>>149514229
Some of this are bonus content and other are for the donation bar. I miss flash to be honest, the other day /v/ had a thread about old flash games Flash was great but dangerous but the issue was nothing replaced it instead everything became prefabricated assets.

>>149513527
Transformation not unlike in the Wotch, only skewing a bit more towards inanimate or clothing TF
Vore
Giantess
Amazons
/ss/
Some combination of the above, I'd need an idea for a story first.... and the ability to write... and the ability to draw... and.....

>>149514531
>They predicted the supercrown by decades
...Also Bowser!Anne is surprisingly hot, ngl

>>149514605
I remember ICS had his own GB Bowswer OC idea, where Dimitry from Dark Stalkers turned bowser into a girl.

>>149514635
As I said in a previous thread
"What if Bowser, but girl?" is a very old idea. The supercrown just popularized it

>>149514566
>I'd need an idea for a story first.... and the ability to write... and the ability to draw... and.....
Anon, youre on a Wotch thread, all you need is three chords and a fetish

>>149514695
It won't live up to my own standards though
Also I'm pretty sure I'd 100% need an idea

>>149514566
>>149514695
All you need is being earnest and do it with love, like this comic.

>>149511256 (OP)
Someone mentioned the art punching up and I agree, the art is janky, they can't draw hands, or arms, but dam if they don't try to make each page interesting in some way. At some point I saw a panel with a top down look at the trio walking and an action shot that looked pretty dynamic of a 1 off panel. This is a lot of effort put into this, other comics where happy using the flat shot with two people talking, here they try to make every panel unique.

>>149514566
That's a lot to combine in one webcomic

>>149514531
One last for the night, this flash animation was the first time I saw ftm transformation I was so confused for some reason as if it was against the rules or something.

>>149514930
nta but
>Boy lost in a valley of dinosaurs that want to eat him traveling along side a giantess amazon who protects him.

>>149514930
I probably wouldn't do them all at once

>>149515081
...Though that would be a good way to do it, just throw in ruins with cursed objects and tribal witches and whatnot....

I'm just gonna link this thread too for my own convenience
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>>149513527
A nerd becomes a blonde bombshell every time he sneezes, becomes the BBF of the girl he has a crush on, has to juggle a double life shenanigans ensue

Bump

>>149513527
Sexy female werewolves.
So it would probably end up something like Peter is the Wolf

>>149516199
Cute

>>149516597
You're cute

Posting fanart I found on DA, I wonder if any of the fanart from back in the day is still around.

>>149498779
Robin finally making sense.

>>149514566
>Vore
>Giantess
>Amazons
>/ss/
Young boy hero teaches a giant amazon woman that theres more to life than just eating people by showing her the power of love and spelunking.

If someone were to potentially continue The Wotch as a fan coimc, would it be better off as a reboot that tries to fix / improve some of its mistakes / writing or just keep going as is but with a bit more thought on quality writing and art?

>>149499034
Do I dare askeing who Tamer is?

>>149498958
>>149498971
I can imagine this being kind of a big deal when it came out, Catgirl finally showing up on the main story, and in a few panels you get to see her whole deal managing to deescalate the infighting and instructing them to ready themselves. It shows she is a good leader for those who don’t remember her.
>>149499109

>Ka-ching
Sensible chuckle.

>>149499292
ICS artsyle is a welcome improvement, but the original also has its charm.

>>149517139
Make it about vikings the name for the ice giants is Jotunn and it means man eater, that is half of the fetishes done in one swing.

Here again posting PDF for those who prefer the format:

>Season 1
https://files.catbox.moe/gm5ho1.pdf
>Season 2
https://files.catbox.moe/a4etag.pdf
>Blue Moon
https://files.catbox.moe/2bbf8f.pdf

Ill post season 3 later, I just finished doing the reformat till part 23

>>149517154
I'll be happy with a continuation that wraps up the story, don't get me wrong if it started continuing tomorrow on a schedule like back then I would read it again but I rather it had the same feel with a better art.

Trying to "fix it" is a rabbit hole where there is no escape because then everyone would have their own interpretation of what fix it in means.

>>149517161
>ICS artsyle is a welcome improvement, but the original also has its charm.
While watching the comments at the website I saw a comment complaining about ICS art style and I can't comprehend how could someone prefer the first style. I know it can sound mean, but the original clearly looks like something made by a non artist trying to draw, charming on it's flaws but not exactly good

>>149517173
>Trying to "fix it" is a rabbit hole where there is no escape because then everyone would have their own interpretation of what fix it in means.
Precisely this. It'd effectively be fanfiction.

>>149513527
Wg+Inflation, base it around magical cooking, and monster eating, sort of like Delicious in Dungeon. Have the main character use these weird body mods to navigate dungeons and puzzles and such, have them be a brazen dumbass too, unaware of Social norms regarding weight and tact and sich

>>149517154
>>149517173
Yeah, "fix it" implies there are glaring flaws.
Maybe /co/ is feeling generous because of the comic's age but usually this place is the quickest to tear into something and that just didn't really happen in these threads
Looks like the most anyone would change is reworking Evan or Miranda a bit

>>149517186
Maybe people where too used to the original they rejected anything new, I say ICS is an improvement with a caveat, yes is an improvement in quality, but is not and improvement in the specific artstyle the comic had for years but a replacement and replacing things is always a gamble.

There is this 80s anime called Megazone, it came in two parts, the first part had this super of the decade artstyle with people with bright color hair and big eyes, the director purposely changed the artstyle in the sequel because he considered it better both for quality and the tone the story took but fans hated it, they never made the end of the trilogy because people didn't buy enough of the sequel to justify it.

>>149517229
Makes sense to be honest, and I must admit I'm biased in my opinion because I don't have any nostalgia for this and I was a fan of ICS before reading about this comic.

>>149517215
Evan that was iffy then and is creepy now at the very least he gets an egg on his face doing what he does once in a while, I get that. But Miranda is clearly suppose to be a point of contention, she means well in the greater scale but is such a bitch about it you want the dark lord to win but the comic doesn't justify her, it clearly paints her in the wrong even if we didn't got to see the moment where that bad attitude finally bit her in the ass.

>>149517215
I can tell you I'm being generous. Partly out of nostalgica, partly because I wait until after a storrytime's ended to give most of my thoughts since nobody enjoys some anon snidely trying to mst3k their way through a story if it's okay and not super bad. Cause really, the art was obviously very bad at the start but visibly improved as time went on, the tf parts are subjective as hell, so what's left to critique beyond the plotlines? And the plotlines mostly suffer the "crime" of being middle of the road. Not shooting for the stars, being mostly just recycled from others media of its era...but whether that's a failing or just the extent of what the creators intended is also subjective.

Really, if there were any glaring flaws writing style, it's that its creators kept shooting for higher than their capacity could perform. They tried setting up for an overarching bad guy that just never did anything, and keep trying to set up Anne for an epic destiny that she's never accomplishing. Really, if you exicse almost all the scenes of the generic evil overlord (one who I inexplicably like) gloating over a bunch of Evil Warriors rejects and over to Miranda and Anne's attempts to PREPARE her for it and the mutual antagonism that builds up as Miranda's more ruthless methods clash with Anne's idealism, you'd probably improve the story massively from that alone.

>>149517253
At least that last page left off at the start of the confrontation people wanted to see

>>149517263
>They tried setting up for an overarching bad guy that just never did anything, and keep trying to set up Anne for an epic destiny that she's never accomplishing
And as a fan of Metalocalypse I've lived through that before

My boy Ivan never got justice...

>>149517252
As a person who read it back then but wasn't that much of a fan either I though the change on artstyle was a huge improvement, reading it now I still think it is but I can see there was a newspaper strip charm in the original artstyle that could be improved upon without changing it completely.

>>149514907
I think it's cause the artstyle seems to be inspired by newspaper comics, but there's a visible influence from the old-school Big Two and TV shows like Buffy as well, which leads to a really interesting thing where the paneling and angling of the pages has a notable style of it's own where it's like its trying to mimic the camera work from a PG-13 TV show.

>>149516199
Nice work anon. Its surprisingly how good the character design work is for this.

>>149517263
>And the plotlines mostly suffer the "crime" of being middle of the road.
Can you elaborate on this? I think we can divide the plotlines between character development and the bigger fate of the multiverse story. The adventure of the week, slice of life stuff is pretty solid, the main trio changes and evolves pretty convincingly though the story.

>>149517154
I feel the best way to "continue" the comic would be too treat it like a period piece taking place around 2006-2009, both in setting and writing. So the flaws it has don't need to be "fixed" per say, but there should be some more consistent writing going forward.

>>149516199
>>149517284
It has a very nice and clear linework, is a very soothing image, is that the word? I like the kind of catlike eyes and the clear womanly shape combined with the modest clothes giving her a definitely feminine and attractive look without showing any skin.

Watching this 10 year old review of the comic and Im glad they take time to focus on unethical most of the transformation content and how its treated by characters themselves is.

>>149517357
Essentially, you could feel the writers were overall more comfortable with the slice of life stories over the adventure parts. Which is fine overall, but once more action and adventure became the focus, the comic started to drag. But that's my opinion.

>>149517263
>>149517273
While the evil dark lord stuff feels tacked on, I think the comic is better for having an overarching villain creating messes in the background for the protagonist to clean up rather that being just Anne fixing her own fuck up 90% of the time. It a nice balance, does it needs to be an epic story with multiple worlds having on the balance? not really.

>>149517367
For sure, I shudder at the idea of modern crap mixing with this comic, is better as a time capsule of the early 00s.

>>149517427
Is interesting how the character react differently to the transformation around them, it doesn't shy away form the idea that this "Poof" Tfs can ruin a person life, but how they reacts depends on the person and the transformation.

>>149517482
Like I said, if I were being more critical, I would excise most of the scenes involviing Xaos only because he generally has little presence or impact on the scene. His minions are the ones with most of the presence, since they're the ones constantly instigating and testing Anne and her friends at her master's behest, and we didn't need to see Darth Sidious onscreen every thirty minutes to understand the scope of his power over Vader and his empire's influence over the galaxy.

But I will admit a weakness to the whole evil dark lord stuff myself, mostly cause its an excuse to view the kitchen sink fantasy other world running parallel to The Wotch's main one, and his presence explains why the villains keep shitting all over Anne and her friends but never enough to ruin her life. That and I like to pretend Xaos has hints of personality, like how even his most loyal minions inspire him to zap them into ironic transformations hinting that he's a bit of a wiseass like Anne. But hey, the comic is what it is, and I doubt I'd do better myself.

>>149509647
Going back to this, it's really nice that Ming was able to give this speech.
Like sure it's water under the bridge now but Ming was one of the characters to suffer actual existential crisis from Anne fucking up
So the subtext of the speech is reiterating that she forgives her

>>149517805
>So the subtext of the speech is reiterating that she forgives her
Which isnt that great, "she" had a career, family, friends ect. All of that gone in an instance due to a teen witches shenanigans while being mind fucked into thinking "she" was just some asian exhange student. One of many things that this comic just handwaves.

>>149517482
>For sure, I shudder at the idea of modern crap mixing with this comic, is better as a time capsule of the early 00s
The thing is, with Social Media and Smartphones of today, a lot of the plots and stories of the Wotch just don't make any sense. So it HAS to take place in the mid to late 2000s, or at least before the IPhone came out, at that awkward period where analog and digital technology co-existed, but analog was considered to be more reliable/professional than digital stuff (see Ivan and his film camera) and digital tech wasn't as wide spread or advanced for Social Media to be influential outside of small forums. Because if it doesn't take olace in the 2000s then why the fuck isn't everyone trying to record shit on their phones and go viral?

>>149517881
>Which isnt that great, "she" had a career, family, friends ect.
She only had one of those

>>149517881
She straight up said she didn't have family or friends, when the personalities merged, do I think it's a cop out? Yes, but still shows she has no ill will towards Anne considers the change an improvement. Now if it was Ivan, that lady Sykos keep turning into stone or any of the victims of the badguys the speech would be different because they did get screwed up.

>>149517918
Damn you are right, a lot of old shows, movies, and the like break in a age where everything and everyone has a camera ready to take pictures at any moment. Imagine MIB taking place now, or Buffy or Sabrina. It wouldn't work.

>>149517881
>>149517974
>>149517988
Tbh, Ming is the one TF I'd consider largely beneficial simply because she had no real connections in her old life and the change added more years to the clock

>>149518034
Yep. At best you MIGHT be able to push it to 2009-2011 when people were still figuring out the monetization and viral nature of the internet and were still somewhat skeptical about the whole idea, but after that the entire concept of "the Masquerade" is basically impossible to explain due to how obsessed everyone is with trying to go viral or game the algorithm to get rich. Massively destruction like what happens in the Wotch becomes impossible to hide by the nature of just how many people are willing to go into danger to get that next viral clip.

>>149518037
All things considered it was a good deal, that is the thing with this comic it depends on the TF and the person. When I have issues is with stuff like the jocks being denied the truth or Ivan and the other two being cursed but that is clearly suppose to be bad so that is another can of worms.

>>149518037
The fact that the original personality consented and was the main one behind the decision to stay as Ming (Anne was ready to turn her back) is the sole reason I give that one some leeway. Apparently the Cheerleaders get some more characterization in a spinoff, so I'll hold off for now (even if the pigtails seems to be alright with it), but the Ivan and friends one is just wrong and it sucks we don't get to see Miranda slip up and Anne finds out about it.

>>149518195
It's honestly funny to see people giving their hindsight opinions on this, since I remember the forced transformations was the angle that tended to be blasted hardest by people back when the Wotch was updating. But that was mainly because they were all doubled up with a sense of brainwashing and memory changing, in a sense adding to the layer of essentially erasing a person and keeping them that way without their consent. Ming was probably one of the few characters who was even given a choice in regards to whether they wanted to stay changed or not, but there is still that unsettling feeling of someone who apparently regrets their life choices so much they'd outright give up their balls and pretend to be someone they're not just to get a repeat on highschool.

>>149518244
Its the difference between reading it live and not knowing what will happen and reading it after the fact after we know the resolution.

>>149517526
Back in the day, the otherworld intermission felt cringe, now I really like it, the everything and the kitchen sink aproach is pretty endearing you can feel this nerds adding all their favorite stuff from highschool into the setting, anime pirates with magic eyes, penguins, edgy robed figures, weird overly specific powers, fursonas, wizard and the like.

>>149518244
>regrets their life choices so much they'd outright give up their balls and pretend to be someone they're not just to get a repeat
Considering how much Isekai is straight up that, I believe that feeling is more common among folks that we think.

>>149518244
>But that was mainly because they were all doubled up with a sense of brainwashing and memory changing, in a sense adding to the layer of essentially erasing a person and keeping them that way without their consent.
Speaking of, how we feel about Anne Identity Death-ing Loki as mercy over killing him?

>>149518457
I personally like the other world stuff cause it feels more in line with the idea of weird and spontaneous transformation bullshit happening to everyone, and the semi-casual acceptance of it because magic is fucky. Like, the concept of a weeaboo assassin who genderbends every full moon is as valid and "normal" as penguin pirates, goblins, and the PG-13 version of the Violator.

>Considering how much Isekai is straight up that, I believe that feeling is more common among folks that we think.
I know you're right, but I still find that a deeply depressing thought.

>>149518528
Well, frankly, Anne said it for everyone. "Some people think this might be unethical". I think that's really the long and short of it, if you consider altering a man's mind so that they can live a more or less decent life albeit under terms you consider "good" is a matter of personal opinion.

>>149518528
Nta but I hate that trope, at least gives the the dignith of death, erasing the is pretty much the same but also replacing them with a fake.

>>149517173
They way I'd continue it would be to set up the Miranda conflict from >>149511912
>Anne says her friends help her solve problems, not complicate it, and they haven't had any defeated major villains return
>Miranda snaps, yells that Anne misses shit that's she's had to cover
>goes off about the centuar lady and others like her, stopping the feminist villain from escaping
>and dealing with "that nosey wannabe reporter, Evan or whatever his name was."
>Anne goes quiet, says they can talk about it later
>talks it put with Freya and Adrophie, gets them to leave Robin and Jason
>The two clean up the rest of the damage
>Tells Miranda she'll show up to training
>On the way home with Jason and Robin she asked when's the last time they saw "Yvonne" try to get in their way.
>They both realize they "she" hasn't and has been avoiding them, they ask why she wants to know
>Anne tells them she thinks Miranda has been intervening more than she's said she has, and they need to find 'Yvonne' now
>Cuts to Xoas's right hand man watching this and seeing a "unexpected opportunity"
Not sure how exactly the Miranda vs Anne chapter would go.

>>149518586
>>149518590
Elaborating on it more I guess if the story were to continue, on perhaps a slightly darker path, it lends itself to eventually having a character look into the camera and say that what Anne did (or maybe does) is no different than what Xaos does with the Blade of Shadows

>>149518595
I wonder where Ivan's arc would lead to, not much the whole curse thing but the "seeking the truth" part. I recon it has to be more that just exposing Anne since 1. it doesn't feel in character for him to just do that out of pride or pettiness and 2. At this point most of the school wouldn't give a fuck. So I recon there is something important in the book he when he got caught that need to be revealed

>>149518717
That's definitely the kind of thing that I'm not 100% sure this story could pull off, but would very much be a very strong turning point, especially since it recontextualizes the idea of forced tf as a harmless fantasy

>>149511496
If that's Freya's reason for body
jacking Jason, I'd to hear Aphrodite's reason for grabbing Robin

>>149519121
I think she might do some friendship thing and try and make some magical equivalent of the Phantom Zone.

>>149519753
It's probably more the face Robin is a surprisingly caring person, which sort of fits with the whole love thing.

>>149519753
"When that boy turns into a girl he has humongous bazoongas, I want them"

>>149518195
>Apparently the Cheerleaders get some more characterization in a spinoff, so I'll hold off for now (even if the pigtails seems to be alright with it)
I think thats one of the few things I would change, I'd much prefer if the cheerleaders slowly realized who they were and had an actual dilema of wanting to turn back or not

>>149509419
>>149511097
Man, this would have hyped the fuck out of me back in the day. This two where the most interesting side arcs.

>>149517154
I think you'd be better off starting something new. Make a new comic that is strongly inspired by The Wotch, but isn't chained to it and its canon. Make a new story that is the version of The Wotch that you think is best, focusing on what you consider its strengths to be, but without the presumption of taking its title.
The Wotch is old enough that even something that has essentially the exact same premise is new and fresh again. Just update the world and its characters a bit to reflect the changing times and give it your best try.

>>149520294
Isolation seems to be a shared theme between Ivan and Jo, woukd be cool seeing them interact.

>>149513527
TG, various forms of TF including Preg.
Premise is that a guy ends up seeking shelter from an ongoing disaster in some ruins that turn out to have been dedicated to an ancient fertility goddess, and accidentally becomes her new high priestess. He wants to be turned back into a man, but the goddess is *very* weak right now and can't afford to do so because she needs him to act as her tool in the mortal world to stop the disaster going on outside from getting worse.

MC travels around the land seeking ancient relics and sites of divine power in order to strengthen the goddess to help restore balance to the world, while having the deal with the ongoing magical disaster, defenses left by other gods on their places of power, and the shadowy cabal of wizards who sealed away the gods in the first place and who have indirectly caused the magical disaster as a result.

The TFTG aspect is not just that the MC is genderswapped, but that as a servant of a goddess of life and fertility, he can't kill. None of the magic powers he gets from the goddess are combat related and taking life is now "against the rules" for him. He does learn the same genderswap magic that was used on him, among other blessings, and can use that to sort of confound and stun people in the middle of a fight but its not really a fight ender. Fertility magic to make people pregnant is also something he realizes he can do, which again doesn't kill but does generally take people out of the fight but he's super conflicted about using it on people.

So its sort of a traveling adventure story with strong transformation elements, and a focus on puzzels and other things requiring clever solutions because simply brute-forcing a problem away with power isn't how the MC's magic works. He can't win fights, he can at best escape them or convince the other person to give up.

The hiatus dilation fucking sucks when you notice it start to happen. So many comics start to fade away. I wonder what happened. Has anyone ever successfully came back after they stopped?

>>149520843
Why did the hiatus happen anyway? Why did ICS didn't continue with the comic?
Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?

>>149520843
Wonderella came back but the author made it clear that the comic wont have a schedule anymore and just post whenever he feels like it, but after years of nothing thats an improvement, I guess?

>>149521021
> Why did ICS didn't continue with the comic?

The plan was to pay ICS for his work with patreon money. But the Wotch had been dead for over a decade by that point, and they didn't advertise their return much, so they never hit a critical mass of patreons to make the comic self-sustaining. Its a plan that could have worked if they had jumped on it when the Wotch still had a fanbase, or with more time to rebuild one. but it was simply too little too late.

> Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
Probably not. AI isn't good enough for longform comics yet. You can manage it for things like single pages or captions or whatnot, but keeping multiple characters on-model between pages is beyond the ability of currently available casual AI.

>>149521021
Last I heard the real Robin couldn't afford to pay the artists anymore

Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
Probably not, as janky as Anne's art style may have been at least it was consistent, every attempt at making an AI comic I've seen looks outright terrible

>>149521021
>Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
Oh fuck no

>>149521021
>Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
Bluntly, no. II would rather read a giant script over seeing ai generated crap.

>>149521021
As weird as it sound I rather have the janky ass art over AI. AI looks cool in photos and single images but not on comics.

>>149521021
>Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
I would scorn it and everyone who read it

>>149521266
>>149521209
>>149521187
>>149521163
>>149521116
It's actually refreshing to hear so many people agree that AI is not the way for this.
AI just can't recreate the charm the original had even if its wasn't the best art style

>>149513527
Guy gets Isekai but instead of becoming the legendary hero he is reborn as a fairy, has to avoid getting eaten by frogs and other stuff and eventually becomes the fairy compaion of the hero who is such a dumbass that he would loose if he the fairy didn't help him without him realizing it.

>>149520837
Having a magic pregnancy ray sound super messed up in the most hilarious way.

>>149521410
Even if it didn't clash artistically, i would be inclined to say that thematically, the story's emphasis on tg and other transformation based antics should have some degree of visual creativity when it comes to the changes themselves, since even the genderbending can give slight variance in appearances between the changes. And most freely available ai models as they are kind of mash everything into a rather generic looking anime style that's more inconsistent with itself than it is creative.

>>149521414
>Having a magic pregnancy ray sound super messed up in the most hilarious way.
Especially if you don't shy away from the consequences of it. Your victim is now pregnant. Which, if its enough to take someone out of the fight, means that they have to be in an advanced stage of pregnancy. 6months or more, enough that physical activity becomes a burden.
But now there is a life growing inside of you. One that you will have to give birth to, and then someone needs to care for. This is absolutely a life-changing thing that has been forced upon you with major physical and psychological consequences, and thats assuming you started the fight already female and were not a dude when you woke up this morning. This is a super traumatizing thing to just inflict on someone, even though it isn't "violent" in the traditional sense.
It in a way thats almost poetic, inflicting a new life on someone like this is as grievous a choice to make as killing them would be. Many people might have preferred death.

>>149521591
Honestly, anon, you don't even need to go that far if you take into account that anon didn't specify if the magic preg ray would turn the victims female beforehand as a courtesy

>>149521639
I doubt the goddess that refuses to give any magic that can harm or kill is going to let the pregnancy spell force a condition that would kill the target and their new unborn child.

>>149521751
Ever heard of the Omegaverse, anon? :)

>>149521788
More complicated and more work to be less effective than just doing the genderswap would be. Begone, mpreg fetishist. You have no power here.

>>149521414
>reborn as a fairy, has to avoid getting eaten by frogs
>MICROSOFT THEY GET ME
how would you get away with those scenes without losing the cast?

>>149521591
With this concept of the pregnancy ray there's always a second question, who the fuck is the father then? Is the baby a clone of the original person as there is not a second genetic poll?

>>149522027
Just like in Konosuba with the gigant frogs, just have them be saved by another character but not without having to know how a frog looks from the inside

>>149521873
Not a fetishist, I just find it funny

>>149522035
Funny, seen a couple manga with it try to cross that bridge. The solutions were genetic clone like you suggested, or the babies were essentially otherworldly spirits that just grew up and left on their own

>>149522035
> immaculate conception baby with divine parentage
> child is of the mother + the caster
> The goddess tells you genetics doesn't exist, its the mother's child and there is no need for a second part

These are the easy answers. Anything more than that requires something... complicated.

>>149521163
>Last I heard the real Robin couldn't afford to pay the artists anymore
Fuck man, that sucks. I wonder if he'll just release a rough summary of what was supposed to happen at some point, or maybe he'll try and catch the 2000s nostalgia wave when it comes around.

>>149522027
>>149522097
Instead of making stories out of fetishes maybe we should think of what fetishes we can get out of stories.
>Minigirl
>getting eaten
>giant bugs

>>149522225
Maybe it could be just him releasing the scripts and letting artist do the pages if they want, kind of like those coop reanumations but with comics

>>149522287
We must reclaim the fetish webcomics from the furries

>>149521414
>a fairy, has to avoid getting eaten by frogs and other stuff and eventually becomes the fairy compaion of the hero who is such a dumbass that he would loose if he the fairy didn't help him without him realizing it.
I play TTRPGs online and my DM has a game for every combination of our group members in case one or more people don't show up. Your idea is more or less the plan for if I'm the only one there, only it's a heroine instead of a hero

>>149511397
Accontability? In my Wotch?

>>149511256 (OP)
You might as well post Cheer as well.

>>149521021
>Would you still read the rest if they continued with Ai?
While I wouldn't want the comic to continue with AI, I'm curious whether anyone can do a decent job of bringing the characters to 'life' with AI for lack of a better term. The Wotch's artstyle was always very simple, it would be interesting to see a more detailed/proportioned version of the characters.

>>149521163
Why not just go back to the original artist, the story and characters where what made the comic not the art

>>149523223
A different anon offered to do if after OP finish posting some of the extras

>>149509702
Damn, I just realize Csssie is oretty much a goth Helga Pataki.

>>149523287
You know, seeing those later chapters in different artstyles makes me realize the story does need an artstyle that feels cartoony but not too cartoony. The last artstyle felt too silly, ICS looks pretty good but a little too cutesy at times, The origial style works better with the more dialogue based humor.

>>149523287
The OG artist step down in 2009, thats enough time to ruminate over returning to the comic, personally I'd like to know if even after all these years coming back is still a possibility or if it ain't gonna happen, but considering the reason they quit in the first place was because of a divorce I'd suggest not delving into the issue out of respect

>>149523484
Yeah, the more realistic styles makes this loose a bit of its wacky feeling and makes the comedy less enjoyable in some panels

>>149523911
Something I really liked about Anne's art is the expressiveness she could get across with her giant eye tiny pupil style
Even with shock/surprise you can tell the pupils contract just that little bit

>>149523903
There's always the sad possibility that they haven't gone back because they just have no more stories they want to tell for Anne and her misadventures with Robin and Jason. It sounds like more than a few of the people who were part of their original rp group have moved on ages ago, so the creator might have just decided to leave this part of their life behind.

Hello again, hope your day has gone well. As promised, here's some miscellaneous content that I could find on the site. Nothing of real substance, but could still be nice to enjoy I supposed

>>149524655
Now a days gender identity issues are a hot topic that had been discussed at nauseum, Yet I enjoy Jason's journey.

This storytime made me realize that centaurs are to TF fans what trains are to autists

Some of these kinks are so abstract I can't comprehend where you get it. Like the obsession with tree tf and how specific it is. Reminds me of the shaving things that one furry webcomic had.

And that's all she wrote! Thanks again for reading

>>149524956
This is a good example of why this series wouldn't work with a realistic style. I can barely tell who is who in this pic.

>>149524956
Those few pages wth realistic artstyle where so weird

>>149524812
Naga's Den artstyle is unmistakable.

EGS Storytime
>>149524831

>>149511256 (OP)
Now that most of us have read the comic how do we rate the characters?
My favorite is pic related, there is something endearing about Cassie.

>>149525494
I too rate the goth chick most highly. Always seemed far more interesting than Anne, though I can't explain why

>>149525523
I mentioned before she has a Helga Pataki energy to her, she is tough but has a heart of gold, you understand her struggles even when she isn't always right.

>>149524949
I wonder how much of each TF fetish the Wotch has? like if you count every time someone turns into a sexy tree will it be more that the times we see sexy centaurs?

>>149525931
I was just pinning the scenes I like but I can try to pin the other kinds of transformations if ur interested

>>149525979
Sound interesting. I'm curious to know which is the top fetish, my money goes for Gender Bender but maybe animal transformation is bigger if you count centaurs and mythical creatures in the same pot

>>149525931
The usagi yojimbo story time has the tradition to count something that happens every year(number of skulls, times someone says something, etc), maybe if we do this again we could do something similar

>>149526042
Definitely Gender Bender. I'd put it down for MTF, but massive lack of FTM here, which is a disappointment

>>149526078
Do I count body swap between make and femake as gender bender of both kinds?

>>149526042
The first artist included a surprising amount of vore

>>149526093
I THINK most consider body swap its own thing, but go with your gut on it

>>149521414
Literally Forever After on Webtoons

>>149526076
A fellow feudal Japan aficionado! good to see you. You know that actually sounds kind of fun, it could be an annual thing.

If OP is here can we know where did you the page for this comic?

>>149524783
>And then it's revealed she's about to meet the Krampus

>>149526381
not OP, but here, In the archive you can check the whole thing better sorted: https://www.thewotch.com/?comic=dancing-queen

Now that the dust has settled what did we though of Evan/Lily?

>>149526730
This degenerate needs to be executed

>>149526042
Mythical Transformation happened more than once I'd say, and that's pretty rare.

>>149526730
Magical equivalent of a weedbro.

>>149513527
>>149513547
>>149513750

My kinks are
>Genrderbending
>Any sort of mind fuckery related to the above - hypnosis, identity change, or compulsions...

Honestly I think an issue with The Wotch is that it:
>Tries to be too broad with the fetishs included
>Doesn't quite know how to tackle their mind change fetish with a wholesome funny comic

If you want to turn people into girls and mess around with their minds, you have limited options:
>Make it so only villains do it | Make it so the hero has no other choices but do it, or it happens indepent of his desires | or You make the Hero an ass
Also I recommend not turning your characters permanently (most of the time), because means you can always transform them again later rather than rely on constant justifications to transform new characters.

Next post is an idea I had...

>>149526913
I've thought about it.

>Many years ago there was a famous swordmaster, know for its incredible strenght and skill, she was a beautiful maiden who wielded a magic sword with an spirit inside - but one day she vanished
>Cut to our MC, a 15 years old boy comemorating his birthday. He lives in the outskirts of a big fantasy city with his parents - a suave nobleman, and a super milfy mother - their present for him is a sword
>He stares confused at the weirdly girly sword, but as he touches it, it shines and he starts hearing a voice coming out of it >he looks at his parents, they present to him a painting of a huge beefed up guy

>Turns out this sword has a sealed spirit in it - an EVIL succubus who empowers the item, she can talk throuth it and is actively malicious and prone to pranks
>The succubi inside the sword is empowered by LUST directed at the wielder - and she Transforms the wielder to better feed of it (temporary transformation that the wielder can control at will)
>The other used the sword many years ago to become a famous hero(ine), until he fell in love with MC's dad and started a family - now they think that MC is prepared to follow the path if he chooses
>MC is still confused and trying to process the fact that his mother was a big buff man
>Later on he discovers that the sword CAN plant sugestions on his head for minor girly things without him noticing
From them on you can have some interesting plots

>The fully powered sword multiply the strenght of the wielder by 10 and the skin becomes harder than steel - BUT the more you use it, the more you need to recharge
>Have an arc of the MC´s friends discovering it
>Have an arc of him trying to train to get a stronger base form
>Have an arc of him trying to hide the thing from the girl he loves

But these areshallow ideas, to make a comic I would have to think on a supporting cast, how characters play each other, themes and etc

>>149524681
Rare Naga art! I loved that artist. Their life seems like a mess these days.

>>149526597
>Last comic posted by Robin is a AI image of a mermaid pirate Anne in 2023 he made with a custom Lora
>>>149521021 asks if we would read the rest if it's continued with AI
Hmmmmm, that's

A 2020s version of The Wotch would have an adult Jennie (the girl Evan hangs out with when he's Lily) and Kirk (Eric's little brother) in their mid-to-late 20s getting into TF shenanigans after remembering what kind of weird shit happened around them back in the 2000s. No overarching plot, just overarching stuff trying to solve problems in their home town.

>>149526981
I hope you're not trying to implied I support it cause I don't. I just asked after seeing that last ai pic and wanted to know what the general feeling about that is without poisoning the well.

>>149527102
Don't worry Robin, you're good. Its just the Wotch works with a more cartoony artstyle like Anne or Ian Sampson. The mermaid Anne is a cool pin up though.

>>149526381
Yo! jimbro! yeah, this was a surprisingly chill storytime, I'd be down for it

>>149526730
He is the poster boy for unhealthy escapism. He's straight up addicted to obliterating himself. It's pseudo-suicidal. You could play it off as a gag, but he wants to be Lily all the goddamn time. This isn't even really some "I want to be the little girl" thing. What he likes best about all of this are the mental changes. This guy doesn't even like being himself in the privacy of his own mind.

>>149527278
Literally all that had to be done is a short comic that shows us his day. If it's really as stress filled as he claims that he basically needs to shut his brain off, show us.

>>149527278
Did you read the comic he goes months between times as Lily. It not an everyday thing, or even a weakly thing.

And in case you missed the memo all transformations in the WOTCH have a mental alteration. Turn into a little girl you mind becomes that of a a little girl. Turn into a women you will act like a women.

It an inherent feature of the WOTCH setting, that all transformations that last any amount of time will develop their own personality, subordinate to the original. It just only really noticeable when adults turn into kids, as the shift is much greater then swapping sex, or even 90% of species transformations.

>>149527417
Problem with that is much like how the X-men keep telling us that the majority of mutants are harmless yet most of the mutants with screen time are the dangerous ones, or how the dragon ball Z dub had to claim that the buildings Nappa nuked were mostly empty despite the sheer size of the city, most of our time spent with Evan is spent with him essentially larping as an elementary school child. So despite the comic saying it's been months, in terms of exposure it feels like we see him doing that every other storyline or so. And given that we don't see the characters celebrating birthdays or acknowledging the passage of time in any meaningful way, it sure doesn't feel like months pass between every appearance.

>>149527710
This. It's all well and good to SAY there's large gaps of times in between, but when every time we see him he's begging to be transformed into Lily, it gives you an entirely different impression of him.

>>149526730
The first thing that came to mind was an Oney plays clip where they talk about adult babies and how mad Cory was about them

>>149515081
I don't care about ftm, but if I donated for this and didn't get to see ftm Anne I'd be pissed.

>>149527710
It gets mentioned between most episodes that weeks pass between every issue. That the norm for all storytelling you skips the dull and mundane stuff.

Did you know that in the first HP book 2 entire months of classes pass before students even start trying to cast their first spell. It takes two months of lessons and theory before students are consider ready to cast a single spell.

Him being Lily is only plot relevant 3 times in the entire story, and all three times involve something else effecting events.

What other barely disguised webcomics should be storytimed?

>>149528109
AND YET the majority of time we've seen Evan, he's Liiy. There's showing, and then there's telling. There's telling us that he goes between months under an extremely stressful job, and then there's actually showing it to us the level of bullshit he goes through to feed and clothe Anne in the vain hopes of being rewarded with a vacation from adulthood. And we sure as shit only ever see him at his job once, and it's not even him it's his mental alter ego fucking around.

>>149527710
>And given that we don't see the characters celebrating birthdays or acknowledging the passage of time in any meaningful way, it sure doesn't feel like months pass between every appearance.
Well that Werewolf filler comic took place over winter break and the Sadie Hawkins was a spring dance
So that's something

>>149527227
I'm not Robin Dude, I promise I'm just very stupidly obsessed over anything GB related.

>Season 3
https://files.catbox.moe/b1z903.pdf
>MSM and Fillers
https://files.catbox.moe/1kgqw6.pdf

>>149528484
Really makes me sad that city of reality is gone from the internet fully. And some other stuff like ICS idle minds, that really explored the horror of being a self aware statue.

>>149528117
An El Goonish Shive storytime just started.

>>149528714
That one is actually sort of depressing considering how much shitty the comic gets.

For all its fault The Wotch tries to be nothing than a funny TF comic that doesn't take itself seriously.

>>149528714
>>149528785
I don't want to read one of these that gets embarrassed of itself and pivots, I want to see non-stop lack of shame

>>149528785
By being unashamed about what it is, the Wotch has somehow aged better than it compatriots.

>>149526730
Nobody asked for this but I drew it anyway, my dumb brain made the connection between this two characters so I had to put it to the page.

>>149527278
>>149527389
Yeah, he comes out as a junkie for lolifying himself, if we actually saw his stressful life we could at least look away the fact that almost every scene he is in he is either Lily or asking to become Lily, The fact that he has to ask his younger sister to turn him into a girl and babysit him while transformed bring up some IRL ageplay that comes out as creepy.

>>149527417
I think the main issue is that there is not much to him outside of being the guy who gets turn into a little girl, so we feels like he is doing it all the time.

>>149527417
>>149528971
After a certain point you start to wonder why he doesn't just ask to become Annie's little sis for good

>>149527941
You'll think ftm would be more common in this comic but is pretty scarce.

>>149529048
But then the Onymous household has no income

>>149528785
if the wotch went this long wouldn't it have gone to shit too?

>>149528785
I remember reading EGS in its early days, and I enjoy it, after maybe 10 years I tried to catch up again but now everyone looked so different I couldn't tell who was who and they all talked like they went to a equity and inclusion workshop to avoid offending anyone.

>>149529075
Maybe, but it at least tried to do something interesting in every arc, even if it wasn't perfect.

>>149529075
NTA but it's hard to say. The Wotch always felt like it was going somewhere. I feel like if things hadn't fallen apart production wise, it would have had a natural conclusion around 2012-ish. This is assuming it stayed in its lane and didn't get caught up in any internet insanity.

>>149526730
I like how the E on his shirt is either capital or lower case depending on age, but what kind of conceited asshole would wear a shirt with a big letter of the first letter of your name?

>>149511256 (OP)
Here is an example of why artstyle is important to set a tone, Can you imagine this artstyle being used for silly gags or situations? No, is too realistic, with something like this the iffy parts like Mingmei would feel even more fucked up thanks to the extra layer of realism on the one hand and on the other they look too hot for me not to think they do freaky stuff with that magic.

>>149529107
Maybe the Wotch dying so early was a blessing in disguise, Can you imagine it existing during the tumblr era?

>>149529195
maybe a bunch of talking squirrels would

>>149529195
>Lily
>Lil "e"

>>149529195
Its the style of the comic, everyone has a T-shirt with something print on it. You wouldn't be able to tell apart half of the cast if they did dress like Alvin and the chipmunks like >>149529219 said.

>>149529236
Yeah but those were just graphics and it's more understandable that teenagers would wear something like that. This is a literal manchild with a big fucking E on his chest

>>149529232
Holy fuck that is some Kojima levels of naming things, I'm genuinely impressed I never though of that.

I think of all the weird webcomics i read from the same period. Only Twokinds seems to have kept it together, everything else either went into permanent hiatus or plummeted in writing quality if the author persisted for decades. Twokinds also did the DID-personality merging thing in one of the genderbend plots.

>>149528971
I just realize it looks like she has a goatee, Anyway who wants to request?

>>149529370
The cheerleaders are good. They doing whatever is good for me.

>>149529410
What was this answering to?

>>149529465
Asking for requests

>>149529480
Ah, I think you have to use 3 of those for that to work
>>>149529370

>>149529560
>Shamefully wrong
Forget I said anything

>>149529410
Anything? because I had an idea for something based on this panel.

I forgot all about this comic, I read it at a way younger age than I was probably supposed to and it explains a LOT about me

>>149529599
>because I had an idea for something based on this panel.
You got me intrigued

>>149529465
My bad I didn't meant to delete the post, feel free to request stuff, I don't think I will finish by the time this thread is archived but later in the week we are going to Storytine The Wotch Cheers so I'll post them there after the storytime is over. Expect it looking like this >>149528971

>>149529624
You too? I remember reading it when I was a kid after a rabbit hole of zelda Fanart eventually led me there, poor me never had a chance.

>>149529624
>>149529754
This made me curios as to why I never got into this thing even though i was into this fetish way to early in my life.
Just now I realised I'm basically the same age as the comic.

>>149529678
This thread still has a lot of space to fill and I think people still have a lot to say cause I doubt most of us could read the whole thing in time giving this in at the middle of the week

>>149529822
>I think people still have a lot to say
You know what I'm going to shut up, and maybe that way I can stop being wrong

>>149525979
>>149525931
So far in Season 1 without counting the one shots and fillers.
> Gender swap MtF: 21
> Gender Swap FtM; 3
> Body swap: 3 (same as Mtf cause I'm counting changes between sexes)
>Human to clothes: 1
>Human to statue or immobile figure:4
>Human to animal: 3
>Human to monster: 11
>Human to Bug: 1
>Crossdressing: 1
>Age Regression: 5 (this one is hard to count)
> Age Progression:1

Holy shit, I didn't expect to see The Wotch brought up again nowadays. I thought that was dead and buried in obscurity. In my senior year of high school, a friend of mine that was an artist followed a bunch of webcomic stuff, and since she knew I wished I was a girl, she introduced me to The Wotch since she figured I'd connect with that.

>>149530617
I mean, is late and the storytime is over, unless someone has any request is gonna be quiet for a while

>>149531627
I mentioned it before, but it's kinda funny how no one has requests cause the fandom is so dead that basically anything works.

>>149526730
Authors age regression fetish character, if I were to read into it more than it deserves theres something going on in the background or with his mental health, his clearly not autistic so just like others have pointed out I would lean torwards him wanting to avoid being himself.

>>149531257
What do you thinknof Jason's slow journey into gender fluidity?

Is it transphobic to think that these kinds of magic transformations are the only way anyone could ever fully transition 100%.

>>149530617
I think you might be right, took me a while to catch up, maybe other are still in the early threads.

>>149531759
You know I might be misremembering but even then fanart wasn't that common, don't get me wrong it wasn't for the lack of fans. You have to remember there was a time when uploading and sharing images in the internet was a hard thing to do. The internet was still slow as fuck checking art actually took your time, and sites like DeviantArt where still suppose to be for professional work so you either knew html and could add your own images to your site in a less that practical ways, or rely on something like File Den to host the images of your site.

>>149532069
I believe if there was a 100% effective easy way to transform into the opposite gender people in general would just be genderfluid, or at the very least it wouldn't be a taboo. The same way pre industrial revolution folks though it was inconceivable to become rich and cast systems where mandated by law.

>>149532069
This >>149532331

I don't envy the position that legit trannies find themselves in, because our level of technology simply doesn't give them anything other than a painful, incomplete facsimile of what they want. If you gave me a bottle of X-change pills I would have a blast, but you couldn't pay me to transition.

If a functionally magical genderswap option existed, up to and including the ability to have kids, I don't think the stigma against trannies would exist and (assuming its reversable) lots of people would spend a month or two as the opposite sex just to try it at some point in their lives.

If its SUPER easy to make temporary, once the technology gets taken for granted enough it might even just become routine/educational. Like, everyone just knows that part of high school sex ed is the dreaded 'girl week', etc.

>>149529217
There's only one circumstance where the artstyle being realistic would complement it, as a joke specifically based around the realistic art style not fitting. Like say if someone like Jason was doing a recap of everything, and he depicts everything like it's a comic book drawn by Alex Ross or something. Or pic related. Otherwise, it definitely would go against the cartoony tone way too much.

>porn getting banned left and right on the internet
Bros is it time for the barely disguised webcomic to roar back?

>>149529599
I mean, anything is better than nothing. Plus that is a panel tease that I want to see something about.

>>149532069
I've seen some people look shockingly convincing to being pretty much 100%. Unfortunately, that doesn't require just HRT, that requires being born lucky. Traps are born, not made.

>>149532048
That wasn't even a term when this came out, but it doesn't really bother me.

>>149532540
Pretty funny.

>>149531759
I'd request a Aphrodie Robyn >>149510970 if that's alright.

>>149532680
Maybe just maybe. Wouldn't that be a twist.

>>149532680
We need the PG-13 barely disguised kink comic to save us!

>>149533101
Him going from I hate this to, I like this is pretty well done.

>>149533091
>I've seen some people look shockingly convincing to being pretty much 100%.
This is cope. With a shitload of camera angle tricks you can pass in a photo, but seeing the person in a different angle always gives a way.

>>149528971
If we had a time machine how could we fix Evan? Make the change something outside of his control? Show him super stressed out and sleep deprived when he is not Lily?

>>149533756
>Show him super stressed out and sleep deprived when he is not Lily?
That'd be the easiest. Like he's generally supportive and all smiles, but he looks dead on his feet

>>149533756
>Show him super stressed out and sleep deprived when he is not Lily?
I mean, if you look at his position at the start of the comic, that's what he should be.
>Parents are gone and is the sole provider for the house
>main job is as a freelance IT technician, which isn't very stable or consistent
>younger sister has magic powers and is trying to work them out on her own
>there is a constant threat of getting discovered or said powers causing a disaster which could hurt her.
Basically, Evan should be someone with bags under his eyes from overworking and lack of sleep, stressing over his sisters safety, and a worrier who has a hard time relaxing. Lily is then framed as a way to basically both destress and play with his sister without constanly worrying about all the bullshit he has to do deal with in his usual day to day grind.

>>149533756
In a more serious story, I might make Evan have a long history of addictive behavior. He has always had problems with gambling or drugs, and becoming Lily scratches that same itch but in a way that is supposed to be 'harmless', but of course we see that his reliance on it is just as bad as if he was doing heavy painkillers.

If we want to keep things lighthearted... maybe Lily has some extra 'weight' as a personality because Anne pushed too hard when making that transformation the first time. Made her a bit more real than she should have, and now Evan sometimes has flashes of Lily in in his head/his dreams. Make her fully a separate personality that Anne and Evan need to find a way to navigate the existence of, rather than just a thing Evan does to retreat from reality.

>>149534289
I'd go with the second one, the Wotch tends to be lighthearted even in it's serious moments

>>149534289
>>149534710
If nothing else, there needs to be at least one storyline in this theoretical version of the Wotch that forces the various characters to grapple with the downsides of using their transformations as escapism.

Imagine, for example, something that happens in the town that 'resets' people's base forms as to be what they have spent time transformed into, and make their 'real' form the temporary not-real one. Evan gets trapped as Lily, Jason is trapped as Sonja, etc. And this is something that goes on for weeks with no obvious way to reverse it. Force everyone involved to confront what it means for this to be something that has taken over their life, and whether this is a good or a bad thing for them to have wanted in the first place.

>>149531759
I dunno if dead is the word, 4 threads of a webcomic that lost its relevance a long time ago with an extremely niche subject and off-putting art style managed to stay alive and plenty of people, some that just discovered the comic an are not blinded by nostalgia, showed genuine investment into the characters and stories after all

>>149535699
Without IP numbers, all a thread need to remmain alive is a dedicated autist.

I think that its just a thing that people remember, not really a "fandom", as rarely anything gets done or discussed by fans. Hell, even if I was to draw fanart for some of the characters (andd I considered it), this still doesn't make me a "fan" of the comic.

>>149533154
Sure

>>149533756
A nice touch to make it work would be seeing him in the background working when the guys are at Anne's house at night. It's not weird for folks in his field to take work to their homes so I think I'd help.
Also making eyebags a part of his design could help too.

>>149535699
Fair enough, the comic is good enough to be interesting even in the modern era, but that doesn't mean the interest is big, I'd be surprised if more than 30 people bothered to write through the threads.

>>149534997
That sounds like an interesting premise of an arc. Everything is fun and games until they get stuck in whatever for they are.

Anne has to get a job until Evan turns back to normal, realises the stress of being an adult, Lily is forced to go to school, not having any agency and other kid stuff.

Jason has to be Sonja 24/7 dealing with assholes at school and not being able to avoid Larry.

>>149535699
Dead in relation to when it was big and people were donating, but you're right. There is something there, much like any webcomic that's been forgotten about by age and time, The Wotch was just one of the bigger ones due to having an active community around it at the height of its popularity.

>>149536224
This feels too serious of a concept for the comic itself but I think it could work as a what if, like those "bad endings" but much more extended.

>>149536308
Reminds me of that one webcomic Misfile, actually

>>149536308
Stuck for a week (reality change or not) sounds like a fun arc though.

>>149536308
It doesn't have to be forever, it just has to last long enough for them to realize whats happened, and NOT effortlessly dodge the consequences by undoing the transformation and going back to normal before they have to pay the piper. A week or two is plenty.

>>149536387
>>149536542
My point wasn't to make it permanent but to make it a big serious plot.
But if you really wanted to make it a temporal stuck situation and have Anne having to work then either it lasts for a month or Anne has to take his brother's place for the weak cause he doesn't have any vacation days, but I don't have a reason for Lily having to go to school if it's just for a week situation.

>>149531759
I guess beggers can't be chooser even when given the oportunity.

Any reason people thinking of hypothetical stories dont just write fanfics? you have an idea so might as well flesh it out

I was looking for new comics like Wotch. Anyone read Addictive Science it's furry if that bothers you

>>149537245
I can spare some time to posit hypotheticals for other anons to enjoy and maybe inspire someone else to pick up the ball and run with it, but between writing books of my own and game development I just do not have the creative bandwidth to dedicate to fanfiction.

>>149537288
Fair, I was just curious, also thats neat, anything you'd be willing to share?

>>149537419
With respect that seems unwise.

>>149536174
>A nice touch to make it work would be seeing him in the background working when the guys are at Anne's house at night.
Sounds good, have him in the computer or talking in the phone at home, show him busy.
>Also making eyebags a part of his design could help too.
I think that would make him feel even more like a drug addict.

>>149537568
>I think that would make him feel even more like a drug addict.
Isn't that what we all think he is metaphorically anyway. Also I haven't know any person that works with computers that doesn't have eye bags

>>149537654
>I haven't know any person that works with computers that doesn't have eye bags

I would get asked if I was okay at lease once a week by people before I started buying an expensive face cream for old ladies.

>>149534997
But their is no downside for the main cast. They only treat transformation as a trivial things because they have Anne the Wotch. Any problem are at most a day away from being solved benefits of being friends with a super powerful magic user.

Note that everybody not in the friend circle treats transformations as a problem. Since they don't have an easy out.

>>149537877
While they can always change back, I think you can always elaborate more into the "constant transformations generate it's own personality" aspect, cause no matter how much you can always turn back, the other person will persist in your head and start becoming a greater problem through time

>>149537877
Imagine something like this.
>Typical Wotch daily shenanigans, Jason is Sonja, evan is Lily, maybe someone else gets GB too
>Then Anne reverses it as ussual but it doesn't work, maybe magic in general just stoo working maybe just that specific peoole. Either way they are stuck fornthe discernible future
>Have to adapt until Anne and Miranda find a way to fix the problem.

>>149538479
Not the worst idea for a slice of life arc, where Sonja and Lily are basically waiting for Anne to figure out how to change them back and have to deal with the new dynamics.

>>149538479
Lily would pretty much just have a long vacation as she is always oblivious to this situations while transformed.
So maybe he is actually stuck in that form with his regular mind?

>>149539560
Evan being Lily for an extended period of time and having to do actual stuff that kids are obligated to do, like go to school, would probably suck some of the fun out of being a kid.

>>149539697
Why would he have to go to school though? If this is a kong term thing then his work is a higher priority, how can he explain being absent so long?

>>149538479
That happened twice in the comic already

Just checking, someone's still gonna storytime Cheer later, right? just in case the thread dies before I finish something

>>149540988
Yes, I'll do it once this gets archived, just to avoid having redundant threads, but I already downloaded the first 100 pages

Who here has never heard of The Wotch prior to these threads?

>>149541213
Nice, I'm looking forward to it.

>>149541386
>>149540988
Before I start, how would you feel more comfortable reading it? The comics has less than 500 pages so I could post just 100 per day or less to give everyone time to read or just keep pushing till image limit

>>149541674
I rather take it slow, I don't know the rest, How long are each chapter?

>>149541674
100 it short but a lot happens per page

>>149541674
100ish pages or the best point to take a break, whatever happens first sounds reasonable, but lets hear what others have to say

>>149541983
This one doesn't have chapters or at least the hosting website doesn't have a clear delimitation for them, so right now you can only guess through vibes and the author appearances

>>149541674
>>149542133
If their's no chapters, then I'd day 100 pages per day sounds good.

>>149542133
looks like it does tho, with title cards and everything

>>149542288
Then I'm just an idiot and didn't notice, I suppose the introduction and first chapter will be ok for the first day then

>>149542319
Yeah, that works.

>>149511279
Are they SURE it wasn't the name of a web-portal back in the good old days of the internet?

>>149542541
Yeah it was like yahoo, I have a vague memory of it.

>>149511256 (OP)
Found some art I hadn't seen before.

>>149542899

>>149543039
If Jason ever decide to stay as Sonja I'm rooting for Larry to become end game.

A little tangent but ICS draws some pretty brides.

>>149542288
So, I tried downloading and turning the images here to pdf, but it looks like they always come out pixelated after it, any ideas why? I tried enhancing the resolution but it doesn't work either