my wife is so beautiful...

>>149547529 (OP)
dressing as a women doesnt make you a woman.

>>149547536
did you get confused and think you were responding to a different post?

nope

>>149547793
can you then explain why you think your response has any connection the the post you're responding to?

I hate modern Magic so much

EDH bait?

>>149547816
i could, but i dont really like conversating with your sort.
enjoy magic. but keep your weird tranny shit to yourself please.

>>149547847
what "weird tranny shit" are you even talking about?

>>149547529 (OP)
She's thirteen teen btw

>>149547529 (OP)
>MTG bringing Ally shit back
Cringe

>spent a lifetime playing yugioh
>started before the underworld decks were released
>get tired of the increasingly faster and faster match speed along with the power creep gimmicks and mechanics
>get into magic for the first time by going 4 ways on the first commander anthology box set with my playgroup
>love how fluffly and slower it is
>slowly see wizards release more and more commander products
>games go from 8-14 turns to 4-6
>suddenly you can't just make decks with cards out of your collection and now there is a meta
>commander format exclusive cards are released
>cross over cards are released
>get burned out and take a break
>come back and now see MTG becoming the thing I tried to escape from with yugioh
I hate it. I hate it all.

>>149547529 (OP)
>ally tribal
Into the trash it goes. I tried building allies before and it fucking blew ass. Though I'm going to assume they'll print some busted ally cards specifically with edh in mind that patch up the weaknesses of the current pool of ally cards.

>>149548439
Of course ally sucks, it was only in two sets. I'm willing to bet you didn't have a solid mana base for it either since 5 color ally almost exclusively attracted the noobs at my store. You know how elves, zombies and goblins are the most powerful tribes in the game? That's because they're the oldest that regularly get significant additions. If you had tried building a vampire deck before Innistrad it would have sucked ass, but all of the sudden they get pretty good and continue to keep pace well enough because future sets continue to add support for the tribe.

>>149548003
Maaaaaaaaan I had this fun blue ally mill deck.

>>149547529 (OP)
It's weird, as a kid I used to have a lot of fun thinking up MTG cards based on pop culture I enjoyed but now that's the norm it feels kinda lame and it just cheapens the game and its brand.

>>149548077
If you don't want to keep up with a competitive meta, don't play competitive formats. Is somebody being try-hard in casual play? Have a conversation with them about it and if you can't get to some sort of resolution, just don't play with them.

>>149547979
Out of ten!

If you just want pictures buy regular non-sports cards and not TCG cards.

Of course no one's selling them nowadays, really...

>>149549741
To be honest thinking about it, it is more about what is "viable" and what is not. So for instance a lot of 4 to 6 mana legendary creatures when I first started to play were viable picks along with things such as 3 mana sorceries for removal or 5+ mana for mass removal. Mana curves were far more varied and ramp up more gradual. However we now have legendary creatures with more versatility than 5+ mana creatures and a good number with more utility than even 4 mana legendary creatures. New removal is cheaper mana wise and sorceries are almost catergorically considered impractical like yugioh traps as there likely exists an instant that does what it does and likely at a lower mana cost. I am not even really talking competative, compare new commander prebuilt decks to old prebuilt commander decks and you can see the shift. It's a bit hyperbolic but in effect if you are using chaff 4+ sets ago you are going to be out classed by chaff in current release if that makes sense. Throw in how difficult it is to figure out what someone considers casual, optimized or competative with commander decks and it's a pain in the ass.

>>149550141
Magic's cards are miles better than most of those because they actually commission new art. Even just for collecting, why would you want a card with a still from a show over a piece of art commissioned for the card.

>>149547529 (OP)
I call this the "Fortnitification" of culture

>>149549670
It doesn't help that most of the tiem they do it, the results are complete ass. Like, the Lord of the Rings crossover set was *awful*. A handful of extremely pushed cards that are designed to become essentially mandatory for all EDG decks in the future (Mithril shirt is cheap indestructible for legendary creatures specifically. Its now default commander protection tech up there with swiftfoot boots) combined with not just polarizing race swaps of characters, but flavor fails left and right that actively sapped enjoyment that comes from a crossover like this in the first place.
For gods sake, they printed The One Ring, and they have an artifact destroying permenant called The Fires Of Mount Doom, but the Fires Of Mount Doom CANNOT DESTROY THE ONE RING. It's immune to that card's effect. Like, what the fuck are you *doing* wizards? The entire trilogy of books is built around the specific promise of this one interaction between these two things, how did you fuck this up?

At least the Final Fantasy crossover set was good. But I am forced to assume thats because Final fantasy is an active property that Square Enix cares a lot about and thus was on their ass the whole time, as opposed to other things they are licensing who were happy for the paycheck and then didn't care what happened next.

>>149548077
>>149550242
Magic is weird because if you're old enough, it actually went through reverse power creep most of it's life. Early magic, like the first 5 years, turn 1 wins were extremely common. Degenerate strategies used to be much worse before they realized that any kind of card that circumvented the mana system heavily on turn 1 could not exist. The cheapest and best removal and coutnersells in the game are the oldest ones (Swords, Path, Counterspell, etc.) and they have all always been commander staples because they per-existed the format. The only thing that's really been power-crept is creatures. Also some of the things you are saying are just factually untrue, sorrceries are not considered impractical at all. They literally just printed one of the best Blue 3 mana draw spells ever in the FF set and it is a sorcery. Cards are designed with different formats in mind. I can't understand your complaints unless you played modern but based on your post you didn't. It sounds like that you, like a lot of people, just didn't realize certain cards existed when you started playing Magic. Your group went through what many commander pods go through, a sort of arms race in upgrading decks that results in much faster games. That isn't new though. Counterspell, Swords to Plowshares and two card win combos have been in the game since its inception. Like literally, they are some of the best spells in Commander and they were printed in Alpha.

The best way to play Magic for 25 years now has been limited. It's how the game was designed to played. People cracking packs and making decks from what they get. Draft is the best since sets have been designed with it in mind now for like 2 decades. If you care about the game because of something like the Avatar set you also get the bonus of getting to play Avatar only Magic.

>>149547529 (OP)
Uh, so are the assloads of D&D crossovers a new thing? I don't partake.

>>149550246
It's a chicken and egg problem, they don't sell so they can't commission new art so they can't attract new buyers, plus that part of the card hobby's been neglected for so long that there isn't a collector base.

But with traditional collectible cards you can have more room for the art because you don't have to have a fig leaf of text for mechanics.

Plus you can do pack-pulled autographs and sketches and relics and more extensive foil treatments and embossing and puzzles and thicker stock and die-cuts and serial numbering.

>>149550329
And you can separate the properties so they each retain their identities, united by the medium of cardboard but not flooding the community with complete tourists.

>>149550329
Its an inevitable result of postmodernism and corporate media. With postmodernism, stories are assumed to have no elevated meaning and everything naturally veers towards cynicism and subversion, which leaves people feeling unfulfilled and empty because the fundamental itch that we turn to stories for never gets scratched. This causes people to latch on to the older media from before this time that still had that earnest spark to it, because they remember it being the last thing that did fulfill them with a good story.
Meanwhile the corporate media production line only cares about money, not quality, so it leans over time towards wanting to make things with the IP its already paid for and owns instead of taking risks on new ideas that can fail.

Taken together, you end up with a venn diagram where the middle overlap says "endlessly reboot and remix the few good old properties you have forever and assume that this strategy can never drain the well dry".

>>149550342
The draft environment for LOTR was incredibly good and if anyting outside of like 3 cards, one of the biggest complaints about the set is that the cards were actually really weak and had no place to be played because they never went through standard. This was such an issues they made all Universes Beyond products going forward go through standard. I don't think you have a great grasp about what you are complaining about. Same with your gripes about The Fires Of Mount Doom. For draft to work cards have to be designed to serve a purpose. Destroying an artifact is a really weak effect, it is not something you put on a rare. On top of that Red very likely needed some form of card advantage at a higer rarity. Not only that there is a card that refrences what you are talking about, Cast into the Fire. Oh look at that, it's common and has a modal option of exiling an artifact. That's such a weak effect it's not even worth a single common, let alone a rare. You could argue that they shouldn't have made Fires of Mount Doom a rare then but that's also kind of stupid. You want famous iconic things to be strong, thus you want them to be rares. All of this is to say, making a draftable MtG set serves many masters and it's clear you barely understand a fraction of them, especially if you're calling LotR bad. It was one of the better draft environments of the last 5 years.

>>149549670
Meanwhile they won't add classic literature quotes back as flavor text. I miss the shakespeare lines.

>>149550452
Caring about draft is like saying that a car that breaks down a week after you buy it is a great car because it was amazing when you drove it off the lot. Eternal formats are the only version of the game that matters, and people have wised up to this fact. Its why commander overtook standard as the default playable format of MTG for most players: people don't want to just throw out their cards a month after they bought them.

….Her?

What is she funny or something?

Standard Format is shit.
Every other format is more fun.

>>149551052
A draft cost like 10-15 dollars to do. That's less than a movie ticket now. On top of that, unlike a movie, you have a small chance to actually get something in greater value than that. Opinions aside, you still don't know what you're talking about. You are factually wrong about no one caring about draft. The worst ever performing product for Wizards was the Phyrexian aftermath set. Released after a best selling set, in a year where Magic experienced growth, the aftermath set was their worst performing product of all time. It was so bad, they retrofitted the upcoming Spiderman set to be a real set instead of a similar style as aftermath and inserted the Thunder Junction aftermath set into the main set. The only difference between this worst ever performing product and a normal set is that it was not draftable. The Assassin's Creed set is the worst performing UB set, also not draftable. WotC did not retrofit the Spiderman set to be draftable because no body cares about draft. It's indisputable proof how wrong you are. A company did not renegotiate contracts and make massive shifts that cost them money because they realized no one likes draft. I reiterate, you have no clue what you're talking about. Your complaint about fires is even more retarded too when you consider that the reason it impulse draws is supposed to represent the forging of the ring int he fires, ya know, the reason the fires can destroy it, because they were also used to forge things. And there's a card that represents them destroying things. You just had no clue what you were talking about and don't get why one would need to be at rare and one at common.

>>149551162

>>149551238
Exactly the type of response I expected, because like I said; the changes to the Spiderman set make me indisputably right. It's not like you could have actually said anything that was a real argument. It was either a reply like this or you slinking off since you were never going to admit you were wrong.

Here's another piece of info on why you are wrong from WotC own market research: The more people play Magic the more they start to only play limited. In other words, it's the most popular format for enfranchised players. Commander is also only number 2 for casual players, kitchen table use-wahtever-I-have is the most popular. If you didn't realize these things you are out of touch and should not base what you think is popular just based on you, your life and your friends.

Are those breasts...and midriff!?
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! SAVE ME LOOT!

>>149550344
>one of the best Blue 3 mana draw spells ever in the FF set and it is a sorcery
Which one? Searching around the only 3 mana sorcery spell in ff is draw 2 and add a +1/+1 counter.

>>149553672
Yes which is a power-crept Diviniation which was previously the best unconditional 3 mana blue draw spell and did the same thing but without the counter. Granted Divination hasn't been good for years but it doesn't change that it's a strictly better Divination.

>>149551238

>>149547847
Are the trannies in this thread with us right now?

Indeed she is