It was a bit dull.

>>149549770 (OP)
The fantastic four are a bit dull in general.

>>149549770 (OP)
I’m sorry you couldn’t appreciate the sheer genius of Reed’s plan.

Yeah.
It didn't do anything poorly but it also didn't really do anything interesting to keep me excited.
The closest thing to interesting content is they not only made that female Silver Surfer fairly sexy, the characters called attention to it.

>>149549851
Literally less pants on head retarded than his plan A.

>>149549947
>It didn't do anything poorly
Except for making all the males incompetent and the females doing everything important.

>>149549988
That's more specifically a Sue problem, it makes sense that the Silver Surfer was important.

>>149550007
It's still badly executed. Which is a movie problem. I mean the fact that Silver Surfer is Silver Surfette is also a movie problem.

Even the DCU shills are praising Fantastic Four as peak Marvel.

>>149549988
Except it didn't really, the male characters aren't shown as wimps or shat upon during the film, and the full scene is far more complicated than "hurr durr girlboss"

>>149549770 (OP)
Are you Bri’ish by any chance? Because if you are, what you’re actually saying is “this was a slog of a movie to sit through”.

>>149550020
I did like FF, but a LOT of reviewers, specially grifters, are gonna praise it just to shit on Superman.

>>149549770 (OP)
It was kinda boring to watch
I'm starting to dislike the outfit but they do still look comfortable as hell
If the Mr. Fantastic actor shaved his mustache he would look like a perfect Reed

>>149549770 (OP)
It's just another cheap CGI movie. It works better as a series, like everything else in the MCU. And when they realized they had to compete with Superman, they really cut back on the budget.

>>149549851
>literally the ending of the first Avengers movie, but baby because we’re a fambly

>>149550041
John Campea is a DCU shill, he and his friends got free tickets to Superman and a bunch of free merch.

But even he admitted that this is July's #1

>>149549988
Your kind really can't stop thinking about that

>>149550078
Why do you know so much about this nobody?

>>149549947
I actually disliked how ooc Galactus, of all characters, felt. At times he was acting petty and vindictive, he’s even got a line about how he’s going to make Franklin watch earth getting destroyed.

>>149550084
"Your kind"?

>>149550093
I watch reviews, and he's on a bunch of podcasts too.

If Warner is sending him free tickets and merch then he can't be a nobody, no?

>>149550128
Of course he is. Lots of nobodies get free shit in the day of faggot influencers.

Birth scene was hot

>>149549770 (OP)
>The only good FF movie is the video game adaption and the best parts is when it's doing it's own thing

Maybe they should stick to cartoons.

>>149549806
Seriously.

Maybe I've been tainted with the notion of unnecessary complexity in the years since but Fantastic Four at the surface level feels like something cooked up by a child. Mundane super powers, a villain named "Dr. Doom", silly-looking outfits with a a cornball name...

They eventually did some cool stuff with it (particularly Susan, since they found ways to explain her invisibility that allowed her power set to branch off in inventive ways) but it's still got that air of "this is the best you could do?"

>>149549770 (OP)
I lay the blame at the actors. They had that "I'm doing this just to cash in a paycheck" lack of energy that you usually find in the fifth or sixth intallment of a franchise.

95% of reviewers agree that Fantastic Four is better than Superman.

>>149549851
Why make it that he's after Franklin? Earth being consumed wasn't high enough stakes?

>>149550231
They knew what was coming with the press tour...

>>149550258
He wants Franklin since he sensed the power cosmic in him, and wants to pass his mantle to the child so he can be free of his hunger.

>>149549770 (OP)
A Fantastic Four movie that's good? In my lifetime? No way?!

>>149550305
Why not just... take the baby, then? Was he expecting permission from the parents? inb4
>muh word muh honor
he was willing to fuck shit up when things didn't go his way.

>>149550020
I'm a Marvel fan but I honestly liked Superman more. FF just feels like it's going through the motions for s lot of the movie.

>>149550020
>>149550316
Are these just bots that can't read the room or what?

>>149550410
There's no thread being particularly positive about the movie, they have nowhere to take refuge.

>>149550410
More than likely, yes.

>>149550352
He did give them the chance to spare their Earth for exchange of Franklin earlier on, that and the backstory with Shalla Bal showed he does stick to his word.

>>149549770 (OP)
Why did they do nothing interesting with Reed's powers?
All he did was stretch his arms and legs a bit, and Galactus pulling him that much shouldn't have been enough to hurt him. Plus why did his costume start ripping, even the 05 movie had unstable molecules.
Those old movies used his powers way more creatively. That was my only complaint.

>>149550210
probably because it was originally intended for children and never went much beyond that

>>149550030
Marveldrones will defend anything, huh?

>>149550901
You're just strawmaning without any refuttal to the argument.

>>149549770 (OP)
I liked it. Planning to see it against with coworkers.

Its way better than Supebore that's for sure

>>149550030
They just don't get to do anything cool. The coolest thing Johnny does is a absorb a city fire, and the coolest thing Ben does is drag a tanker with a chain, but those are both brief blips during their intros. They don't really do anything cool when fighting Galactus, and Reed just gets humiliated.

>>149550352
The reason why Galactus even has something as a herald is that he doesn't want to spend the energy he gets. Giving a chance for people to surrender or evacuate is better for him at the end of the day. If they refuse, he'll absorb the planet anyways, but it means he'll have to run after a new planet way earlier than usual.

>>149551001
Eh. Lex was more fun than anything in this movie. And this is coming from someone who has been shitting on DC movies for years. None of the characters in FF have real bite. It really was missing a Doom like entity.

>>149551015
I get The complaint, but the appeal of "cool" comes down to personal taste. It wasn't a problem for me, and couldn't reduce a character's worth over how flashy they appear on screen. And even outside the final battle, they get plenty to do and aren't ridiculed or demeaned.

>>149551105
There simply aren't that many acts of the story that aren't down time or being stuck on the ship. Flashy moments would have been a great way to quickly elevate these new heroes.

>>149551105
>for me
Well of course not. Because you are a shill.

>>149551140
Not an argument

>>149551184
Yeah, that's the point.

Dull is a very good way to describe it. The retro futuristic design and in-universe media was cool and offered a good atmosphere, but the characters were plain and the story was by the numbers. Ben and Johnny's casual banter was the only thing that felt like it had real life to it.

>>149551236
The master baiter

>>149550852
I'm shocked how little this is being talked about. Seen like 3 videos discussing the movie, listened to a podcast and talked with people IRL and no one is as disappointed as me about Reed.

>>149550305
Has that ever been part of Galactus' motivation?
He's always seemed content with his role in the Universe.

>>149551346
Some comics have alluded to his desire for his hunger to end, but as far as I remember, I haven't read a storyline about him actively seeking a way to act on that.

>>149551346
I think "humanizing" the motivations of unknowable cosmic beings like Thanos and Galactus is a mistake and just makes them less interesting.
If course Thanos being literally in love with the anthropomorphic concept of Death doesn't make any sense to us lowly humans, the man is operating on a completely different level.

>>149551385
I know he doesn't particularly like having to eat planets but he's been at it since the Big Bang, you'd think if there was a "cure" it would have come up in all that time.

>>149551385
There's the Thanos solo where he's trying to do that, but he's being subconsciously manipulated by an outer entity to do so.

>>149551325
I haven't seen any reviews besides Jeremy Jahns' but all these people are sheep and very few of them have any comic book knowledge to draw on. I thought Pascal's take on Reed was fine but he should 1. not have succumbed to helplessness and desperation as easily as he did here, that was very FF Life Story and I didn't like that aspect of that comic and 2. his stretching was awful. To be honest, even Ben got very little to do in this movie but they still showed his strength on occasion. Meanwhile 2005 Reed did a lot more with his skillset, I'm not necessarily asking for Maker levels of body horror stretching but at least do something with Reed beyond very generic Hollywood smart guy tropes.

>>149549770 (OP)
It was the best comic movie to come out in the last 5 years...A proper film...

>>149551287
I think this dullness is probably a strength in this day and age, it was a very inoffensive movie. Of course Incel types will find things to take issue with, but most of the stuff we were told before release (Sue is the leader of the FF, Johnny isn't a womaniser) turned out to be false. Reed still calls the shots, and Johnny was horny for Shalla-Bal for the whole movie. It was like an early 2000s superhero movie but more stylised visually, it's a bit like how Batman 89 had that asynchronous setting with old times cars and dial phones but modern tech.

>>149551573
About this, I think FF will do better tan Superman with audiences due to it being a safer film overall. FF doesn't have anything that could cause controversy really.

>>149549770 (OP)
This film proves what has always been evident and that Ben Grimm (The Thing) is the most interesting character in the group and should be the focal point and 1B to Reed’s innate antagonism- not Sue- he steals the show with very limited dialogue or material- Reed and Sue as a couple has always been lame and their chemistry has never translated to a film adaptation

Making surfer a woman was pointless as it didn’t shake up the dynamic between him and Johnny that much- unless they were going to go all the way with a romance angle I don’t get it- but this Johnny doesn’t get punani so that potential storyline was crushed before the film ever released- Galactus was no where near as threatening or terrifying as he should have been and the film lacked any creative practical or combat use of the team’s powers or dynamic as a unit

Over all dull, boring, average, forgettable- the fantastic four in a nutshell

>>149551757
Problem is, it doesn’t wow either, and by the end, it was a bit of a chore. That’s no good for repeat viewings or word of mouth.

>>149551757
No one's fuckin talking about it though. Even on /co/, discussion Is so shallow.

>>149549770 (OP)
There isn’t a single scene of fighting plain jobbing mooks to make them look. Only the main threat(s) so they seen hopelessly outclassed most of the time.

>>149550210
I feel like the worked on a world prior to the ocean of other better characters existed

Okay, here's how we do this.
Focus on the positives: the retrofuturistic atmosphere is unassailable, use that as the building block of your argument, refer to it if any other aspect is criticized (eg: I think it was a bit boring / slow" is countered by "the movie takes room to breathe so you can absorb the carefully crafted environment").
If you have to engage with any negative criticism, use humor and irony to deactivate it (eg: "I suppose you've seen a lot of stretchy guys / rock monsters / people on fire in real life"). It makes the other side look needlessly antagonistic.
Don't forget the ol' reliables - the visuals were amazing; it's not that kind of movie; it's just entertaiment.

>>149552130
There's evidence there was going to be more but they decided to cut it. But yeah it makes the FF seem out of their league as planet defenders, but skips over the party where they are actually In their own weight class. People keep saying they oversold Sue but she literally died to do that shit and it still only worked because SS decided to help.

The worst part of it was Galactus. Like, he literally doesn't do anything, only killing some planets that we don't know. He is more like a MacGuffin that moves the plot but isn't important at all. The middle of the movie should have been about the fantastic 4 trying to save a planet from getting destroyed and introducing some characters from that planet as well, but they fail to save it and we see Galactus as an even major threat, since he destroyed something we actually knew. Then the final of the movie would be about Galactus trying to eat the Earth but they manage to stop him

What the fuck I swear there was post a minute ago on how to defend the movie

>>149551836
Sadly I think this is how I feel. I love the look of the world and that this film stands on its own (seriously, even someone who has never watched an MCU movie could watch this and have some idea of what's going on).
However, I don't see the point of cutting stuff like John Malkovich as Red Ghost in that opening sequence, or making it so short. Someone mentioned that this movie kinda devolves into a Rise of the Silver Surfer style final act and I'm inclined to agree, with everyone being evacuated to Subterranea it feels like such an empty final battle. And for being such a smart person, Reed's plans are so utterly stupid, is the MCU hellbent on making the F4 look as ineffectual and weak as they can?
I'm not some terminally online chud but it seems lame to me to have Sue and Surfer be the ones to finish off Galactus, why not embrace the family concept and have all 4 of them push back Galactus, with Surfer's sacrifice at the end sealing the deal?
Should've included the Ultimate Nullifier in this. If they wanted to be more faithful to the source material, they should have done as 1:1 an adaptation of the Galactus saga as they could have.

>>149550119
Seeing characters faithfully adapted is not something you should be watching these movies for

>>149552358
Ironically this movie being a more slavish adaptation than usual MCU outings us probably one of its better selling points.

>>149552331
The marketing and movie pushed the "explorers" and "scientists" aspect of the FF, but ultimately it ended up being a drama with some action or interesting moments interspersed throughout.

>>149552331
It's especially embarrassing because this isn't in a vacuum, MCU fans are going to compare him to the Celestials who seem much more imposing and powerful (despite being from a worse movie).

>>149549770 (OP)
Reed is a cuck

>>149552350
I knew it!

>>149552456
C'mon, anon. t's not that kind of movie; it's just entertainment.

>>149552415
The Indian Ocean Celestial is way larger, but he gets merc'd immediately after doing nothing whatsoever. The other one LOOMS OMINOUSLY.

>>149552503
Most of the criticisms of actual critics are along the lines of "It didn't take chances/try something daring", which I suspect is something like "Ben wasn't a transwoman rock monster of color or SOMETHING.

>>149552540
He literally wasn't born. They aborted a fetus.
They also explain they were only able to abort it because they were able to use it's power against it.

>>149552557
I think that more mean
>Ben just kind of sat around then grew a beard

>>149552567
He looked pretty hatched to me. But besides the point, the Celestials only did ANYTHING in flashback.

>>149549770 (OP)
No it wasn't

>>149553249
That's right. It was VERY dull.

As someone who's never really been into FF, are they more or less Marvel's Superman equivalent?

>>149553424
They're highlighted as the comic that kicked off what we know as the Marvel Universe - that's where the "First Family" nickname comes from - but the They Were First status is the only similarity, really.

>>149553424
They are more like the Legion of Superheroes, only there's just four of them.

>>149553442
I mean, it seems like the Marvel universe loves them and admires them in a way they only do towards a few other heroes.

They also seem to go on a lot of sci-fi adventures like Superman used to back in the Silver-Age.

>>149553446
I don't see the similarity there at all.

>>149553510
The closer actual content equivalent would be the Challengers of the Unknown, for obvious reasons.

>>149549770 (OP)
why does every movie have to be the same woke agenda?

>>149550017
For what other reason other then feminist insecruity and hatred for men did they make Silver Surfer female then?
>>149550030
Except they did. I have never seen a movie where female characters were treated.
You really are delusional or just lying if you think this shot is not a "girlboss moment"

>>149550017
No it's not, because she has nice tits and ass

>>149553749
>For what other reason other then feminist insecruity and hatred for men did they make Silver Surfer female then?

Because FOX ruined Norrin

>>149553749
>For what other reason other then feminist insecruity and hatred for men did they make Silver Surfer female then?
Because Johnny is not gay. And a male Surfer could sen the wrong signals for our heckin' wholesome family film every culture can enjoy.

>>149551015
Johnny decipher an alien language on his own and because of that convinced the Surfer to help them in the last moment, that more than the FOX versions of him ever did

>>149550852
Outside of the opening montage and the galactus fight they did mostly fuck all

>Reed stretches his arms a few times to write on his chalkboard
>Ben lifts a car for some kids
>Sue turns invisible/cloaks the ship

Atleast Johnny got to fly around and throw fireballs at silver bitch a few times

I legit dont know how the fuck anyone thinks this movie is better than Superman. Its got the same issue of fast pacing to get from scene to scene but without the action scenes or a good villain

>>149550210
>>149552236
Its a matter were they were basic but foundational.
The kind of group that in modern cape fiction settings would be up there as a "back in the old days where heroes and villain's got into shenanigans" type group if not for their dialogue and historical position making them the transition group.
Became of this Johnny and Ben embodying the quippy kinda focus that would eventually go into Spider-Man fit into the modern era well, Sue as said also got the development to move into the modern era, which leaves Reed and his character in turn became defined by his incapability to engage with the modern era to the point of all but giving him canonical autism.
However as a unit they are rock solid internally which prevents a lot of the drama that modern cape books rely on but also its a betrayal of who they are and what they stand for to ever break them up, leaving them as this shining spire of legacy within the comics that you need to squeeze blood from a stone to get anything beyond fun adventures.

>>149549770 (OP)
It could have had more action imo. Sue's powers looked really confusing to me and it's crazy that she never did a classic dome shield

>>149553749
Again, you make the equivalence of girlbossing to the mere concept of "woman commiting an important action in the plot".

>>149553695
Mindbroken

>>149554298
Again, name me a single superhero movie or tv show of the last 10 years where female characters are written like the male characters are in the ff4 movie and vice versa.

>>149554315
Agreed Trump winning really broke the mind of people like you

>>149554359
I won't because I don't watch every single piece of superhero media that comes out. And even if I did, It's not relevant to the point since I'm reffering to what happens in FF, not any other film.

>>149549961
Teleporting the earth wasn't that unbelievable for a comic film though

>>149554376
>Jumps to defend Trump out of absolutely nowhere

>>149554403
always the same with you faggots.
always getting called out and then running away

>>149554403
so you know you are wrong and just lie?

>>149554447
anon you jumped straight to personal attacks out of nowhere. so yeah I am gonna point out a fact that is going to upset you in return.

>>149553749
>For what other reason other then feminist insecruity and hatred for men did they make Silver Surfer female then?
So I could see silver ass and tummy and me and johnny wouldn't be gay

>>149550258
because if all he wants to do is eat Earth there's literally nothing they can do to stop him without the moving the Earth plan without having a maguffin like the Ultimate Nullifier

>>149554403
why comment if you got nothing to add?

There was probably 20 minutes worth of cut content from this movie, its clear so much was missing

>>149553749
Easy, Kevin Faige's stupid ass still trying to do something different

>>149549947
>It didn't do anything poorly
It did Sue pushing Galactus poorly. Now to be clear I don't mind that she did it, I mind that instead of visually showing that she was injuring herself from the effort, they relied on Reed telling the audience.
Even the 2005 Fantastic Four movie was better at this, pic related.

>>149554519
>>149554533
Why call it a lie when I'm explicitely falling to discuss FF, and at no point in the discussion mentioned how it compares to other films in the landscape.

>>149554725
Not really the case, since I'm advocating to debate about the film.

>>149555272
again distracting because you know you are wrong and can't mention even a single movie that treats women as bad as this movie treats men

>>149554298
funny how the "woman commiting an important action in the plot" always comes down to writing white men failing so that women can rescue them and beat up the bad guy
also funny how are literally neve any scenes of "men commiting an important action in the plot". that invovle the women failing and having to be rescued by the men.

>>149555732
Point which wouldn't play into the discussion about how the quality of this film in particular is diminished by it's supposed mistreatment of it's male characters.

>>149550020
It's nowhere near as good as Superman OR Thunderbolts.

>>149549770 (OP)
I like the movie "intellectually" but the action scenes were just really lame and unexciting.

>>149555786
It's interesting that the best movie of the three will end up with the worst box office. Thunderbolts wasn't amazing but it was the only properly paced movie of the three.

>>149555761
And that applies to the film in which way? The defeat of Galactus is a collaborative effort, and having the biggest blow commited by the one who is canonically the most powerful member of the team does not come out of left field.
>also funny how are literally neve any scenes of "men commiting an important action in the plot". that invovle the women failing and having to be rescued by the men
Yeah, because plots are only supposed to happen in one way, even if the men are shown to be competent throught the entire film.

The original trilogy unironically has a better plot.

>>149555814
I do wonder if the lack of action will hurt it's reception. I didn't mind it since the character work is what made the movie for me, but I get people wanting more spectacle. I'd still like to see the original opening with Red Ghost; it might've delayed the kicking of the plot but it could've been a better intorduction than the sloppy opening montage.
The runtime is the biggest weakness imo, since it forced them to condense a lot of the elements.

>>149549806
This

>>149549770 (OP)
Is there a canon reason why Reed doesn't have a white collar?

>>149555838
Galactus being physically overpowered by Sue is obviously fucking stupid, but you can't admit that, I know.

>>149555897
Stupid how? It's not without precedent in the source material; a more fair criticism, which I'd agree to, is the film being inconsistant with how it displays Galactus' powers.

>>149555838
>The defeat of Galactus is a collaborative effort,
The actual Coming of Galactus story was a collaborative effort. The movie was Sonic 2's multiplayer levels of collaborative effort. Reed, Johnny, and Been where Tails.

>>149555821
It had a lot of things working against it, most of all the lack of rcognizable characters, having a lot of homework to watch it, and coming right after BNW.

>>149556007
I don't think that's a good assesement; the plan comes from Reed, who still takes part in the fight even after getting beaten by Galactus, and SS only intervenes due to Hohnny's part on making her change her mind. There's also the fact that the movie shows that Sue had to literally die to get to that point, so it wasn't effortless. I agree however on Ben getting the short end of the stick, not having much to do.

>>149549770 (OP)
Its better than Thunderdolts and James Gunns Justice Gang featuring Superman imo
Its still has its problems writing wise but I feel like the casting is the dull aspect of it, they are just too old, serviceable actors but I never feel like they fully embody the characters that well
also female Silver Surfer is retarded

Pretty disjointed film, 4/10. Nothing really pops, except that computer baby.

>Johnny Storm "dies" in the second act just to reveal he did not die when the climax comes

Heh, predictable but I liked it.

>>149549770 (OP)
>tractor beam capture them then it magically let them escape
>can go faster than light by spinnng around a black hole
>translate alien language with 4 words
>plan consist of moving the earth to another solar system even though Galactus clearly can travel between system
And a lot lore retarded things. It was painfull to watch.

>>149551836
>This film proves what has always been evident and that Ben Grimm (The Thing) is the most interesting character in the group and should be the focal point
You know in another life I wonder if we could have just gotten "The Thing" alone and not the F4, Reed, Sue, and Johnny being his supporting characters.

>>149556617
Nigga watching a film from another universe

Why didn't Galactus use any of his powers? He's a cosmic god that can teleport, fire beams of awesome power, transmute matter, etc. You could have displayed that, yet mention that each time he does something he depletes his energy significantly, so the plan becomes Reed baiting him away from his ship and draining his power cosmic reserves for a final attack.

Also wouldn't this film have benefited with other heralds the four could fight? Terrax, Firelord, Airwalker, etc?

>>149551836
Truth Hiroshima.

>>149556717
>Also wouldn't this film have benefited with other heralds the four could fight? Terrax, Firelord, Airwalker, etc?
One of the earlier rumours about the film (from around early 2023) was that it would feature multiple heralds. It was never known if it was true (perhaps we'll know as more bts stuff is released), but if it was I imagine they reduced it to one to keep the focus on the four, since that's what the final product aims for.

>>149550084
>Your kind
What did (s)he mean by this?

superman was shit
ff was okay
pedro needs to shave his mustache but the 60s aesthetic made it work
the film needed more galactus and surfer and then it would be solid

>>149553249
Yes, it was.

>>149551836
friendly reminder that FF 05 gave ben plenty of screen time for this exact reason (that and showing off the practical suit) whereas in this it was more of a waste of time since his boner for the jewish lady went nowhere

>>149556852
The film reminded me of TF One in a way, since both are cut short of being fully realized for the constraints of runtime. Out of leaks and trailers, a lot of stuff was cut:

>A scene of Sue interacting with Ben and another where she and Mole Man hang out after the pregnancy reveal.
>Original opening with Red Ghost
>Reed delving into the multiverse as a personal side project
>Protestors storming the Baxter Building, trashing H.E.R.B.I.E in the process
>A detailed look at the workings of Galactus' machine, where the remains of the devoured peoples were seen
>Reed paranoid over his belief that he was the one who brought Galactus and SS to Earth

>>149556717
>Why didn't Galactus use any of his powers?
reshoots and the need to downscale for either returning in a future film or poor writing & planning

>>149556925
>cut short of being fully realized for the constraints of runtime
it really boggles my mind how studios force films that clearly need a longer runtime have to get chopped down because of this insipid idea that people can't sit still for more than two hours

>>149556717
>>149549770 (OP)
What the fuck was wrong with Galactus face? why not keep it simple comic accurate?

>>149551836
Have Johnny fall in love with Emilia Clarke super skrull

>>149549770 (OP)
Dull? No my friend, this is everything I hate about commercial film turned into a movie: a calculated product that ticks every demographic checkbox like it’s assembling ikea furniture. Producers stealing out-there ideas and concepts from far worthier people than them and turning it into artistic beige: palatable, inoffensive and forgettable.
This is a spineless film, made by and for spineless people.

>>149557017
Keep her but take advantage of the post SW timeline and use her as Lyja

>>149549770 (OP)
he liked it though

>>149557012
might as well ask why didn't do ralph justice and put him in a costume instead of some cgi bullshit with his face as a visual reference
also you might be braindead if you think he wasn't visually comic accurate

>>149551836
based and thing pilled

>>149557078
So you didn't like it.

>>149550231
Yeah I was bothered by that too. I wonder if the director was trying to give them a “been there done that” vibe since they’ve been heroes for years. The lack of emotion from the cast reminded me of phantom menace.

>>149549770 (OP)
I don't mind when movies have deleted scenes. What I do mind, is when it's really noticeable. Like here.
I founf Reed to be the weakest link, which is a dissapointment.

>>149557169
fuck off mate, he was tiny and powerless

>>149557152
Unironically I've seen conservatives defending it due to it's pro-family themes.
Another take I've seen which I guess will be more talked about later is that the film promotes a technocracy.

>>149557293
>The lack of emotion from the cast reminded me of phantom menace.
I swear this was on the back of my mind the entire movie, at times I was thinking they didn't shoot their scenes together and were cobbled in editing.

>>149550231
Unless you're Tom Cruise, then you go for crazier and crazier stunts.

>>149557344
which is way better than pro-trans pro-gay and pro-feminism by a way big margin for sure

>>149557344
>the film promotes a technocracy
now that's a take out of left field, the film promotes judaism more than it promotes a technocracy

>>149556123
>>149556852
>superman out of nowhere

>>149557344
>Americans can’t resist making the latest superhero slop part of their nigger culture war

Anyone else think this movie was ugly as sin? I’m not a stickler for cinematography but fuck me there were so many unacceptable shots and CG everywhere

>>149552356
Marvels showed how amazing a realistic depiction of the Galactus trilogy would look and instead we just got let down with the same safe, color by numbers, MCU crap

>>149551409
Tbf the death is pretty hot

Does it have benn pounding a blind woman

This Galactus gets physically overpowered by Susan and clearly displays emotion multiple times. He is nowhere near as powerful or godlike as in the original trilogy.

>>149557901
Alicia doesn't seem to exist in this universe, Ben flirts with some random redhead woman (might be from later comics i havent read)

>>149557997
She seems like an amalgam between Alicia and Ben's gf from Millar's run, who was also a school teacher.

Eh, it was just a little better than Thunderbolts. Serviceable at best but isn't saving the MCU yet. It does do some things better than Superman but I feel I liked Superman just a little better. Not that I think Superman was a drastically superior film. It was a battle of average films, both with plot holes and one just won me over by a few inches when I compare the two.