Jerry Siegel - /co/ (#149667137) [Archived: 138 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:02:56 AM No.149667137
Billfinger
Billfinger
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he invented Superman in 1933
but Superman wasn’t published until 1938.
this guy invented a character and spent 5 years shilling to publishers to no avail. 5 years.
what motivated him?
it can’t be that he knew it would be popular, he sold the rights to DC as soon as he got the chance
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:04:35 AM No.149667159
>>149667137 (OP)
To be fair, DC had the support of the mob to convince creators to sell their creations
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:05:47 AM No.149667176
>>149667137 (OP)
>what motivated him?
There was a letter by Robert E Howard I think you should read.

"I don’t expect others to follow rules laid down for myself. You can say that certain activities are superior to other activities; that’s right; but that doesn’t necessarily follow that the superior activity will always give a man the fullest possible satisfaction. Human nature is too complex; temperaments differ too greatly. Nor is innate capacity an absolute index to preferences. My cousin had the capacity to become a great artist. He chose to become an acrobat. I’ve known plenty of men who had greater natural capacities in lines other than the pursuits they deliberately followed. I certainly don’t belong with the bunch I’ve been naming, but to use a concrete example of a very humble kind: in high school I showed something of a knack for biology, certainly my science grades were infinitely higher than my English and literature grades. I have reason to believe that I had more capacity for biology than I have for literature. My teacher—who detested me as human being but seemed to appreciate my laboratory work—suggested that I take up biology as a career. Now undoubtedly biology is a career superior to writing fiction for the wood-pulps. But it wasn’t a question of superiority with me; it was a question of what I enjoyed most. I wanted to be a writer; I didn’t give a damn about being a scientist. I chose the wood pulps, and I do not in the slightest regret my choice. I might have gone much further as a scientist, but I know very well I wouldn’t have enjoyed the life as much as I have that of a writer. If I ever said anything about “arbitrary” standards, that’s probably what I meant—the assumption that a certain pursuit necessarily offers the fullest satisfaction to all sorts of temperament, merely because it is of the superior type"
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:12:23 AM No.149667251
>>149667176
it’s not so much his career that I’m getting at. it’s just that usually if you try to become a comic book writer you try a bunch of different things and hope they stick. instead this guy cooked Superman, spent 5 years making no money with it, and kept pushing it until a publisher picked it up
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:24:30 AM No.149667428
As a kid, I remember there was a book that came out about how his father died of a heart attack after a robbery and that was possibly inspiration for him creating Superman.
He did tweak the idea from the initial evil overlord idea. so it's more like he had a general idea for a powered man and altered it as he felt might suit the market.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:33:09 AM No.149667560
>>149667137 (OP)
>5 years shilling to publishers to no avail. 5 years.
>what motivated him?
It was about pushing jewish propaganda
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:47:19 AM No.149668440
>>149667251
And Conan went through several revisions too. The original was Kull.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:47:39 AM No.149669254
>>149667560
faggot
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:41:06 AM No.149669462
>>149667251
You can try to become a comic book writer by getting someone to buy a comic you wrote, or, you can become a comic book writer by writing your comic and selling it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:51:03 PM No.149670491
>>149669254
>someone states the truth
>degenerate flies of the handle
Projecting much?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:53:33 PM No.149670515
>>149670491
The truth is that you are a retarded fag
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:07:20 PM No.149670608
>>149667560
Pretty much this. German intellectuals aligned with the Nazi party used Nietzsche's Superman as a justification for human rights abuse. Superman was originally going to be a selfish thug with psychic powers but publishers didn't think a villain protagonist would sell. Then Siegel's father was shot on a robbery. Nietzsche's Superman was all about putting aside useless morales for a greater good. The Nazis put aside the lives of Jewish people for the greater good of Germany. Siegel's Superman is a bullet proof man who refuses to put aside any of his moral values.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:58:26 PM No.149671028
>>149670515
>no actual answer, just insults
Well then, go eat a pork bullet, Jew
>>149670608
>human rights
A fiction produced by the "Enlightenment" thinkers who spawned Liberalism
Also, might makes right.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:03:23 PM No.149671067
>>149667251
I gotta give the guy some credit, he did finally got it published.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:03:34 PM No.149672031
>>149667137 (OP)
Money.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:05:41 PM No.149672058
>>149667137 (OP)
What if he had kept his character to his state instead of selling it to DC?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:07:30 PM No.149672077
>>149670491
>claims to state the truth
>it's just "jews reeeeeee"
what are you, 13?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:09:39 PM No.149672099
>>149667137 (OP)
>it can’t be that he knew it would be popular
wait a fucking minute here OP because why can't it be that? you wouldn't try to sell an unpopular idea because that doesn't make sense. clearly he thought he did have a good idea.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:14:43 PM No.149672141
>>149671028
*beats you up*
that's right nerd
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:15:48 PM No.149672155
>>149667137 (OP)
Why was he so obsessed with the nazis and the KKK
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:18:25 PM No.149672173
>>149671028
Limp wristed fag
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:19:30 PM No.149672184
>>149672155
It was the style at the time
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:11:29 PM No.149672710
>>149672141
>>149672173
>*dies from nonwhite violence, a problem implicit to his world order*
>>149672155
>(((he)))
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:43:01 PM No.149673085
>>149672155
The Superman vs the Klan story was written by the radio show writers, and beyond the pre-WWII story where he makes Stalin and Hitler kiss and make up, he didn't really dwell on the war . All those WWII covers you see from the GA generally don't match the content of the stories.
Siegel's interests were more in the sci-fi, which you saw more when he returned to Superman in the 50's and greately expanded on the Krypton mythos
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:05:43 PM No.149673403
>>149672031
This.

1933 was during the Great Depression. People like him were desperate to make money any way they could. So he kept submitting it, hoping somebody would buy it.

Ironically, he and Joe Shuster were already working for Malcolm Wheeler-Nicholson by 1935. Either Siegel never showed it to him or The Major wasn't interested. It took a recommendation from Max Gaines to Harry Donenfeld when Donenfeld took over DC to get it published.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:07:23 PM No.149673425
>>149672710
Grow a pair
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:20:39 PM No.149673538
>>149672058
Nobody would have ever heard of the character.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:21:26 PM No.149673553
>>149673425
>*gets even more irate*
You're either a woman, a transsexual, or a söyboy with even less t than the average woman, and that's on top of you being a Jew
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:12:03 PM No.149674167
>>149673553
Stop projecting
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:35:27 PM No.149675249
>>149674167
>"Stop projecting," says the faggot who just throws insults at his critics
lol, no u
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:44:17 PM No.149675395
>>149675249
Kys
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:45:36 PM No.149675416
>>149673538
Did he really need to completely give it to DC? Toriyama didn't completely sell his character to Shonen Jump
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:49:38 PM No.149675460
>>149675416
American publishers wouldn’t put so much marketing power into a character they didn’t own. This isn’t Japan , especially not in the 30s
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:20:59 PM No.149675868
>>149675395
lol No u
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:22:24 PM No.149675887
>>149675868
Fag
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:31:39 PM No.149675979
>>149675887
lol no you
lmao
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:43:00 PM No.149676080
>>149675979
Cope
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:46:57 PM No.149676118
Reign_of_the_Superman
Reign_of_the_Superman
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>>149667137 (OP)
>he invented Superman in 1933
That Superman was not DCs Superman. They had to change him to be more in line with the famous pulp icons of the time
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:08:47 AM No.149676326
>>149676080
>"cope"
lol
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:32:38 AM No.149677245
>>149676326
Fagtard
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:32:49 AM No.149677249
kitties
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>>149671028
>>149670491
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:33:57 AM No.149677260
>>149677245
>still projecting, still seething
lol, lmao
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:38:57 AM No.149677317
>>149677260
Cope
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 3:29:32 AM No.149678689
Jerry_Siegel_in_Uniform_ca1943_cropped
Jerry_Siegel_in_Uniform_ca1943_cropped
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>>149667137 (OP)
He deserve something better.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:26:40 AM No.149680340
>>149673085
right wing /pol tards don't care about facts
stop wasting your time arguing with imbeciles
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 7:20:57 AM No.149682416
>>149674167
Stop deflecting
>>149675395
You first tourist
>>149675887
Sperg
>>149676080
>>149677317
Arrest