Thread 149683133

Why doesn't /co/ have "girls with guns" series like /a/? It seems like an unexplored market.

>>149683133 (OP)
/co/ is western and i tihnk the west (basically america) has abit of a problem with people just taking guns into places.
its something along those lines anyways.

>>149683133 (OP)
girls "dont sell" to the intended audience of western cartoons (boys) and guns are mean and scary and a no no in cartoons

>>149683133 (OP)
Girls can't use guns, guns are for boys.

>>149683167
>insert the clip of the retard giving his little girl a mac-10 and spraying the instructor and the guy behind him

>>149683167
Well, there aren't that many shows with guys shooting either(unless it's a cheap adult cartoon)

Western Animation is rarely for kids, so there's not going to be a cheesy gun-toting chick action movie. As for comics there's gotta be tons but the issue is generally that most comics that aren't capeshit will be on the obscure side. Then whether or not something like Black Widow or the other action girls counts is up to you.

>This kinda reminds me of that comic with the chick with the giant tits and the tranny
>Same artist

>>149683222
its probably cheaper to just make a tv show rather than animate and entire series.

>>149683222
Can't be giving children any more ideas about how you can solve all your problems with guns.

>>149683243
really? so if i dont listen to kmfdm and kill random people i can solve my problems?

>>149683241
>Western Animation is rarely for kids
uhhhhh

>>149683241
>called "lookers"
>they're hideous

>>149683282
ikr ? big mouth was literally for kids

>Why doesn't /co/ have "girls with guns" series like /a/?
Because 99% of western adult animation is trash and girls with guns is a niche genre that has no shot at getting into that 1%.

>>149683133 (OP)
>Why can't [somewhat adult themed thing] be animated?
Because they would make it live action.

>>149683317
well desu if you tried to make something like gunslinger girl in the west youd be called a pedophile and not the good kind that gets away with it all because your dads got a lawyer of a certain faith

>>149683241
I know that it's easier to find that kind of stuff in comics. Still unfortunately that we won't get something like Noir or Kino no tabi in cartoon form.

>>149683328
That really limits what western cartoons can do. There are many ideas that would make for good animation.
>>149683334
>well desu if you tried to make something like gunslinger girl in the west youd be called a pedophile
Even if it were live action? The west has already done plenty of "child soldier" stories.

>>149683334
>gunslinger girl
Most girls with guns series are not at all like Gunslinger Girls. And despite the genre name, you're allowed to use women instead of girls.

>>149683328
>Because they would make it live action.
I fucking hate the western television and streaming industry with a burning fucking passion. Thank absolute fuck for anime.

>>149683167
I'm trans btw if that matters

>>149683386
>he west has already done plenty of "child soldier" stories.
funnily enough the first thing that comes to my mind is beasts of no nation and thats literally about a general who rapes boy soldiers

>>149683133 (OP)
We can't have a Western fetish for ourselves.

>make presumptive series where guns are sexy since women are highly trained military babes
>cause actually gun violence and trigger more fucking politics

We have to take responsibility for our culture, they can fantasize freely since it doesn't affect them.

To throw in some comic examples for >>149683241:
Ride Die Valykrie, Danger Girl, Daughters of the Dragon, Elsa Bloodstone sort of at times.

>>149683342
Kino's Journey isn't an action series. Kino only uses her guns in like 1 out of every 4 stories.

>>149683522
Wow, what a fag.

>>149683524
I know. It still has a little girl using a gun.

>>149683133 (OP)
Girls With Guns is a genre defined by sexy females and the US is a proud male homo country that designs the UGLIEST female characters ever. Enough said. Anyone who says shit like Amphibia or Phineas and Ferb look good needs to be tortured to death.

>>149683554
She's not that little, she's just skinny and the 2003 anime tended to draw her head as a circle.

>>149683598
She is little enough for me and I liked the 2003 art style.

>>149683133 (OP)
Executives would never greenlight a western animated series with real guns in 1000 years (unless they shoot lasers or magic beams or some other kiddy shorthand) because of "sensitivity surrounding current events" because of Columbine or Sandy Hook or whatever the fuck the new one is this week
The most you'll get is things like the Skeleton Remote episode of OK KO

>>149683634
It's much better than the sterile digital look of the 2017 series where Kino's eyes kept chaning color for some reason (and the 2003 is better directed, too) but Kino's circular head is a weak point.

>>149683636
>The most you'll get is things like the Skeleton Remote episode of OK KO
Rank propaganda?

>>149683133 (OP)
Who says we don't?

>>149683656
>but Kino's circular head is a weak point.
Idk, I never had a problem with that.

>>149683668
>shoots gun for 4 pages
>Spends the next 20 pages explaining the plotline because marvel thinks youre too fucking dumb to follow
COOL!!!!

>>149683668
I think op was specifically talking about animation. He seems to be aware of such comics.

>>149683167
>guns are for boys
>girls are for boys
>combine the two
>????
>PROFIT

>>149683700
non binary xems and guns?
yeah that would probably make money in this day and age.

>>149683182
What

>>149683722
is that meant to be a question or a statement?

>>149683167
Guns are more yonic than phallic

>>149683282
sorry I'm drunk but obviously I meant rarely not for kids.

>>149683746
yeah firing things from a barrel is way more vulva looking, definetly not like a penis.

>>149683448
That's like 60% of the modern girls with guns market.

>>149683149
Has been since the 90s
Spiderman TAS was hit the hardest with censorship to the point where the word die was removed and nobody ever actually dies

>>149683807
Trannies are such an irrelevant minority. They don't make a significant part of any market.

>>149683843
cope, tgirls love their guns and anime girls.

>>149683836
fucking youtubers have started adopting literal Orwellian newspeak and saying "unalive" instead of "kill" to avoid being demonitized

>>149683869
Idk why you are so obsessed with trannies. Trannies also like western cartoons and drinking water. But they will always be a minority that ends up getting even smaller once most of them kill themselves.

>>149683386
Why did he get angry? I know nothing about guns btw

>>149683869
>animation in the west has to be pure garbage or trannies might like it
lol

>>149683872
And social media posts, I'm sure there's a list of words that'll get you shadowbanned/hidden in the algo if you use them in a tweet etc. It's just gonna get worse.

>>149683895
>in the west
He doesn't know?
>>149683889
She was literally staring down the barrel of a possibly loaded gun, you don't need to be into guns to see that's the most retarded thing you can ever do with a fire arm.

>>149683869
It's a good thing they love guns because they'll inevitably use them upon themselves

>>149683911
Yeah but I thought they usually had a safe because 90% of humans are retarded

>>149683836
Remember that episode where the Punisher showed up, and he kept saying "ugh ugh and next I will use... LETHAL FORCE!!"?

>>149683911
>He doesn't know?
What should I know? The fact that the west literally has not made any of these series?

>>149683133 (OP)
Because western cartoons are either shlock for children or garbage adult comedies

>>149683925
You don't want to mess around like that--even with a safety--because it's not worth the risk of catching an accidental discharge to the skull.

>>149683925
I doubt the safety was on and I'm assuming the context of the scene is her gun is malfunctioning midfire, and even then the typical etiquette is treat your gun as though every precaution could fail for literally no reason at all because you might be that unlucky.
Though I could be wrong, maybe the guy is just a cunt who wanted to beat the shit out of her.

>>149683133 (OP)
Western cartoons don't like being R rated while anime can be as violent and sexual as it wants. They each have their own advantages like the Mark Hamill Joker being funny and not edgy like the Heath Ledger one.

>>149683964
You never point a firearm at anything you don't intend to destroy, that's the most basic fucking rule #0 of gun safety

>>149683989
>They each have their own advantages
But it's not about one or the other. Why not both? You can have both series with a lot of violence and series that are more age-appropriate.

Aren't there guns in Arcane?

>>149683989
A lot (but not all lol) of girls with guns anime tend to be pg-13 at most, but as has already been said itt, western cartoons usually avoid real guns in kids' shows, and adult cartoons are mostly trashy

>>149683735
Haven't heard about it. Was also confused. So both, I suppose. I'll go look it up.

east vs west troll threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 and >>>co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
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>>149683807
Damn, trannies look like THAT?

>>149684049
go fill out a janny application next time they're open if you love moralfagging so much
You probably tried before and they rejected you for being overqualified for the job

>>149683133 (OP)
Another casualty of the west’s strange binary attitude towards childhood that treats the transition to adulthood like flipping a switch. Much like with sexual content, it’s not okay to show guns in kids’ media but then the minute you’re an adult you can go see John Wick (and if you’re in a country that allows it, actually go buy a gun).

>>149684016
>and series that are more age-appropriate
Which these days tends to mean "doesn't have realistic modern guns".

>>149684039
to keep it short and sweet, a dad lets his 12? year odl daughter handle a mac-10 and she clutched the trigger and she cant let go because fear kicks in and she accidently sprays 2 people

>>149683133 (OP)
They used to be for live action stuff like Selene, Violet and Alice

>>149683911
>He doesn't know?
i feel like girls with guns still exist in anime, one of the most popular girls with guns(and without hymen) director released such a movie this summer.

>>149684191
Lycoris Recoil aired on Toonami a year ago and released a series of shorts last season.

>>149684115
Submachine guns, handguns and rifles are completely unsuitable to give to a child, they're far too bulky and unwieldy for them to aim and use effectively.
Crew-served weapons like mounted machine guns and mortars are a far more sensible option. They require less physical strength to operate and they encourage teamwork.

>>149683133 (OP)
What others have said but also most likely a lack of talent. Guys that know how to make those kind of scenes work in la.

>>149683149
fpbp

>>149684190
>"This choreography looks like Equilibrium"
>The director of Ultraviolet did Equilibrium
Huh.

>>149684190
>>149684546
The fact that we're not in a timeline where Wimmer directed a bunch of schlocky-yet-soulful DTV action movies is one of the world's many unforgivable sins.

>>149684854
That is true

>>149683167
But mr.colt said guns made everyone equal

>>149683596
Stfu trannyfaggot

>>149685747
>mentioned
It's not an anime recc thread though but grenadier is pretty cool indeed.

>>149683133 (OP)
>more female-led garbage
ENOUGH.
Women don't make for good protagonists. End of story.

>>149685870
They can make for good protagonists and as I've already mentioned there aren't that many shows with guys shooting either.

>>149683133 (OP)
A guy who's down on his luck and suddenly gets powers is more relatable than a mary sue with a gun.
I think Atomic Blonde is the only female lead I can watch without rolling my eyes at least once.

>>149685892
Nah.
>>149685894
Atomic Blonde is garbage.

>>149685902
Nah what? You haven't even addressed my 2nd point.

>>149683554
Kino is in her late teens if not older, just short and androgynous. The 2003 series has a flashback episode where she actually is a kid.

>>149685912
Women are boring and nobody wants to watch them, especially not do action shit which always looks laughable when a woman is doing it.

>>149685920
I know. I said "little girl" as in her body is little.

>>149683182
No joke I visited that place like a month before that incident took place. They had an age limit of 8 for shooting guns. This was back in july 2014 and the death happened in august. I begged my parents to let me shoot an m16 and they were baffled that a 14 year old me was allowed to shoot.

>>149683133 (OP)
/a/ no longer has those either since the japs discovered that virgin NEETs eat it up better when the girls *are* guns

Cartoons (and comics for that matter) are made by people who are genuinely scared of guns, and the people in the west who aren't scared of guns either don't give a fuck about making cartoons/comics or aren't particularly artistic to begin with.
The western equivalent of the Japanese gun otaku is going to be far more into stuff like video games or shooting IRL.

There's Aeon Flux but it's weird

>>149685926
Then if you are so against girls with guns how about men with guns, why are there so few serious high budget cartoons like that?

>>149685951
>/a/ no longer has those either
Virgin Punk?
>eat it up better when the girls *are* guns
Like what? Are there anime where the girls transform in guns? Like mecha musume kind of stuff?

>>149685976
Upotte is only one I can think of and that's a comedy
NTA

>>149683133 (OP)
Because that’s WOKE

>>149685996
What if they are sleeping?

>>149685747
CLICK
CLICK
BOOM

>>149685870
They're easy on the eyes, and that's what's truly important.

>>149686108.
can women do this irl?

>>149685926
I'd rather see a woman doing action than some beta nu-male lead or some bratty kid.

>>149685870
What are you 5? Women are great

>>149686125
Women can't even go a day without crying over a broken nail, anon.

>>149686181
Broken nails fucking hurt. I don't blame them.

>>149683149
I don't get why firearms aren't considered "child friendly" in media given that few people seem to have problems with other weapons such as swords, blunt weapons, and other things that are just as lethal.

>>149686226
Swords et al are harder to come by.