Times an artist or writer's pathetic seethe was palpable on the page

>>149685196 (OP)
Is this anti-shitformers? Based

>>149685196 (OP)
Capeshit writers are incredibly petty, this is long-established.
Usually they are taking shots at other comicbook characters they think are 'lame' or other writers they are currently having a bitchfight with behind the scenes.

>>149685207
Faggot

>>149685196 (OP)
I doubt any seethe is from McGuinness. His style seems inspired by all sorts of nerd media.
Loeb on the other hand seems to like disliking things.

>>149685196 (OP)
That Kikaioh ersatz is too cool to not be an affectionate homage to the Mazingers and Getters of the world. The way the rocket punch is drawn is basically perfect. Nah. If you wanna see boomers truly seething over Japanese media, look up "Asterix and the falling sky"

>>149685196 (OP)
I see references, but no actual implied hatred for what's being referenced. It's just Superman being confused by the weirdness of the situation.

>>149685196 (OP)
What are you even talking about?

>>149685196 (OP)
>Times an artist or writer's pathetic seethe was palpable on the page
we just make things up now

>>149685658
>>149685683
Loeb is openly racist.
Like, even ignoring past general animu/mango seethe-dumps like this page, or his totally understandable hate-boner for Cass Cain, he was running around the Daredevil set saying nobody gave a shit about Asians that weren't hot women, killing plotlines for Nobu and Gao.

This entire issue where Larsen lays absolute waste to everything Moore just did on the book. It's kind of shocking to see it made so explicit.

>>149685196 (OP)
This is one cool Metallo design.

>>149686089
holy based

>>149685196 (OP)
>Kikaioh
>Seethe

>>149685641
This. It looks more like a tounge in cheeks admiration for Manga characters.

>>149686174
Amerimutt troon

>>149685683
>we just make things up now
Where do you think you are

>>149685196 (OP)
The Return to Angel Island arc of Archie Sonic, which was Karl Bollers getting so fed up with Ken Penders and his echidna autism cutting into everybody else's storylines and undoing any actually-interesting developments that his last arc before leaving the book was about Eggman nuking Ken's precious Echidnopolis and reducing the residents to slaves.

And of course, Ken would pretend that never happened and acted like only his vision was the one true canon, but he wasn't much longer for the book by then, either.

>>149685196 (OP)
I don't even have Ennis Derangement Syndrome but I thought this was The Boys because Superman looks like Billy Butcher.

Bump

>>149685196 (OP)
What was the context behind this run?

>>149685196 (OP)
If you wanna talk seethe go look at that one Asterix comic about how much manga sucks.

>>149686311
Doesn't make it right. Never made it right.

>>149686311
I see OP's seethe is palpable in this thread

bump

Younger generations have lost the concept of the "roast" and that you can make fun of something you enjoy or at least respect enough.

>>149686123
I'm reading this now for the first time and despite really liking it, it *is* incredibly weird and petty how Moore just decides that everything after 1970 for Superman sucked and wasn't worth reading.

>>149689982
What hte absolute fuck am I reading

>>149689910
This is a pretty common opinion from a lot of star creators it feels like. The 70's was sort of the start of the need to modernize Superman and tweaking the formula. Morrison generally steers to Silver Age, Millar has said the 70's start to feel less fun when reading, and there's probably more I can't remember atm.

>>149690005
Dan Slott's She-Hulk.

>>149690026
>Millar has said the 70's start to feel less fun when reading

Millar grew up with the 70s stuff; the opinion he's talking about is from watching his kids read Superman starting from the Silver Age stuff then going to the 70s stuff

>>149690026
I'm going to be honest, I still need to read the majority of Golden, Silver, and Bronze Age stuff but there were some stuff post-1970 worth reading. Like Kirby's Fourth World saga, where Superman plays a pretty decently-sized role.

>>149690109
Yeah, when he went to Wonderworld was pretty poignant

>>149690026
I think a lot of that is just rationalizing "the era when I got into comics was the good era." I can appreciate that a lot of late 90s and early 2000s stuff hasn't aged well, but it's still "my" era and I still think of it as the "best" era. That's just how our brains work.

>>149690130
Also a lot of post-Crisis stuff was good. Bryne wrote some good stuff and Morrison was writing the shit out of JLA.

>>149686174
No, it's trashy.

>>149685196 (OP)
>That time JMS shat on Cates for destroying Broxton

>>149690130
I really wish DC would do an Elseworld one day where he decides to move there and hang with the New Gods.

>>149690453
thing is, Millar and Morrison were both more 70's Superman kids who discovered the earlier Silver age stuff later

>>149685196 (OP)
McG is one of the OG American manga guys, no pettiness here pure homage.
He was doing shit like this in Vampirella years before this.

>>149690453
See >>149690054
Millar loved the 70s Superman comics, because he grew up reading them. And honestly a lot of the Bates and Maggin stuff is pretty good.

But that part >>149690026 mentions, is what Millar observed when his kids read 60s and 70s Superman comics. For some reason his kids enjoyed the 60s stuff but the 70s stuff not as much. Remember, the period Millar would be nostalgic for would be 70s Superman, so it isn't a case of his kids having similar tastes as him

>>149690026
There's this weird impression I get that the crystalized 'perfect' version of Superman in the cultural consciousness is from the 50's or something and everything afterwards is somehow worse and Superman was diminished somehow, it's really weird how prevalent this sort of sentiment is, especially since I thought there was no better time for Superman than the 80's and 90's

>>149692193

> I thought there was no better time for Superman than the 80's and 90's

the ByrneMan hate is crazy to me, and i don't even really like it, but I do attribute a lot of it to growing up with that characterization

>>149686089
>he was running around the Daredevil set saying nobody gave a shit about Asians that weren't hot women, killing plotlines for Nobu and Gao.
Wasn't the story that one of the actors playing a Yakuza guy was angling for a bigger role and Loeb just told him to his face that he wasn't going to get a bigger role because the character just wasn't that important and nobody cared about him? But Loeb's just an old guy who was dumb enough to word his response as "nobody cares about the Asian characters" and get himself cancelled. He wasn't really wrong in telling an actor playing a minor bad guy that he wasn't going to get a bigger role, just in how he got his point across.

What should have been the real story there was how the guy had a recurring role on a big popular Netflix show but was barely making any money from it at all, after his travel, accommodation and food costs, but that story got buried under all the outrage at Loeb.

Loeb and Jim Lee both probably just see Cassandra Cain as one of many irrelevant, unnecessary legacy characters they're just not interested in using in their Batman stories, but her insane waifufags have convinced themselves that Loeb and Lee hate her specifically, and the only reason anyone could hate her is racism.

>>149692337
But they used Huntress who was always far more tertiary , and not a classic character at all. So that explanation is bullshit.

>>149691752
Morrison talks about getting comics when he was a little kid in the sixties.

>>149686123
Years before this, Kirkman was going to bring back the original version of Supreme, but only a prelude issue got published IIRC. The thing to remember is that Moore turned Supreme into an off-brand Silver Age Superman so he could play with an off-brand version of a character he loves without having to actually go back to DC. But anyone else in the industry who wants to write Superman would just go to DC and write a Superman book, which means anyone who actually WANTS to write a Supreme comic is likely going to have more interest in trying to do something with the original character concept instead of just doing off-brand 60s Superman like Moore did.

This just stands out so vividly because normally if Alan Moore completely turns a book on it's head and reinvents a character, it ends up being permanent because it's so acclaimed and beloved.

>>149692377
>but whatabout
Anon, stop. Huntress just happened to be a character one or both of them liked and wanted to work into their story, that's all. They're not evil racist bigots just because they happened to use one tertiary character they liked, and one of the many other tertiary characters they didn't use happened to be Asian. The people making the comics can and do push their favorites.

>>149692579
>not racist, just don't like 'em

>>149690659
wonder what JMS thinks of immortal Thor

>>149692868
What part of "many other tertiary characters" did you not get? They weren't obliged to use all of them, and accusing them of being racists for not using one specific tertiary character is just retarded. You're inventing a narrative in your head that these guys are evil racists just because they don't care about your waifu and left her out of their Batman comics, along with various other irrelevant tertiary characters they also didn't use.

>>149692193
I'm reading the 90s superman Omnis right now and I love em.

>>149692537
>which means anyone who actually WANTS to write a Supreme comic is likely going to have more interest in trying to do something with the original character concept
The Supremacy means they could do that without having to acknowledge or upend the Supremacy.
Larsen just wanted to kick dirt on Moore's run.

>>149693907
Was Larsen ever good?

>>149694773
For what it's worth I actually liked much of Savage Dragon.

>>149685351
I thought the same thing

>>149694773
Hell no the guy was garbage from the beginning.

>>149694802
The Spider-Man stories he wrote and drew before that were fun, too.

>>149685196 (OP)
Pokemon and Godzilla are more popular than Superman. Of course the fat superfag would throw a tantrum.

>>149695075
>Proud he likes Japslop
Ew

>>149685196 (OP)
>Big purple Pikachu
Looks cool

>>149695075
>Godzilla are more popular than Superman
Pokemon, yes. Godzilla? Hahaha, no. Maybe in Japan and other East Asian/Southeast Asian countries where even Ultraman is more popular than Supes.

>>149695354
>Ultraman
Based, he is the only good evil Supes.

>>149695168
Says the whale that love seeing men in skintight outfits fight other men in skintight outfits.

>>149695075
>>149695168
>>149695453
>fake argueslop posts by OP using changing phone IPs

>>149695075
>>149695453
Both are gay

>>149692193
Yeah the Bronze Age tends to have the versions of big three characters we think of and the the 90s and early 00s have a lot of the arcs people think of.

>>149695493
I mean big two

>>149685196 (OP)
Did Japanese men rape Superman for several months during WWII like the Russian men did during the Cold War?

>>149696361
Clark Kent became Clark Bent

>>149685196 (OP)
Is that G.Kaiser?

>>149696496
Shut up Otto super robot wars is for fags

>>149695365
I hope you are doing a bit on purpose and aren't being this dense

Every time anybody tris to introduce Sailor Moon references, even in good faith, it always end up looking at a mean jap blackface mockery because nobody really remember the show correctly.

>>149689887
>you can make fun of something you enjoy or at least respect enough.
Spaceballs is a perfect example of this.

>Take that other comic books! Superman's still cool and relevant!

>>149697082
If you think about it, Superman sexually assaulted Manchester Black's brain.

>>149685196 (OP)
>bling bling bling
It's niggachu!

>>149692235
>ByrneMan
Speaking of, DC is just trolling people now.

>>149694773
Absolutely not. Biggest single hack in comics history.