Thread 149719064 - /co/ [Archived: 120 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:22:14 PM No.149719064
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>Wanda is now Sorceress Supreme
What exactly is the explanation for her mutants magic powers now? I lost myself half way in House of M.
Is her X-gene giving her a connection to Eternity and to the magic force?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:23:04 PM No.149719079
She doesn't have an X-Gene. She was experimented on by the High Evolutionary to try and replicate the effects of one.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:24:13 PM No.149719091
>What exactly is the explanation for her magic powers now?
The only way writers think they can develop female characters is by making them absurdly overpowered and then pretend this is interesting character development
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:39:51 PM No.149719279
>>149719091
Not just females, but it's most of them.
They think they can compensate their lack of charisma with that. Logan, Gambit, Cyclops, and Kurt are among the top favorite male mutants and none of them is that Omega bs. Bobby is.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:44:40 PM No.149719330
>>149719279
deadpool was the highest grossing R rated movie of all time and his only power is healing fast so he can get shot and stabbed more. capeshit authors are retarded and don't understand what makes a character interesting or likeable so they default to powerscaling.
Knull and Batman Who Laughs are both basically beyond parody when you remember what spidey and batman's actual original origin are.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:44:42 PM No.149719331
>>149719079
She was a mutant in her mother womb
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:55:50 PM No.149719474
>>149719331
Incorrect
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:00:58 PM No.149719537
>>149719331
She was a mutant when Magneto was still her dad. I dunno why they changed that. I like Magneto being her and also Pietro and Lorna's father. In X97, he saw them in a vision, but only Rogue was fleshed up while the other three were a shadow. That pictures Magneto perfectly.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:03:37 PM No.149719566
She has plotforce
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:06:39 PM No.149719610
>>149719064 (OP)
>Letting Wanda be sorcerer supreme
Has anyone ever interacted with Wanda? Are they just pretending she isn't famously schizophrenic and hoping she'll do a good job?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:06:58 PM No.149719613
>>149719064 (OP)
Wasn't she briefly Sorceress Supreme a few years back or are writers finally following up on the hints that she would become Sorceress Supreme in the future?

Wanda's mutant power was(still is?) reality warping + probability manipulation.

Magic was something she learned over the years, but she always had potential for magic, since she was born on Mt. Wundagore at a specific time.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:27:33 PM No.149719822
>>149719613
They teased at SDCC that after OWUD they're going to have another event with various candidates vying for the position of Sorcerer Supreme
I don't think Wanda (on 616) has actually held the role before

I think right now her mutant/mutate power is the manipulation of Chaos Magic as an extant form of energy
When Remender wrote Wanda he had Rogue absorb her powers and she was unable to control them properly without Wanda's experience or knowledge of sorcery
But Remender also introduced Luminous, an experiment who was given the same powers as Wanda and Pietro, likely using their DNA. Luminous is able to control the same energies as Wanda without any magical knowledge or training, but she doesn't seem to be able to use them to warp reality or cast actual spells

Of course none of this really accounts for the retcon Robinson made to her origin, after Remender's, where Wanda was always destined to become a Scarlet Witch because her maternal grandfather was the Scarlet Witch and her biological mother, Natalya Maximoff, was also a Scarlet Witch who practiced witchcraft
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:37:59 PM No.149719933
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>>149719064 (OP)
Literally every writer has a different idea of what her powers are and how they work, but Kurt Busiek in 1998 came up with the best-known attempt to make sense of how she could both be a mutant and a witch:

The story from 1979 that turned her into Magneto’s daughter also said that Chthon endowed her with magical potential for some reason.

Therefore her mutant power is to wield energy like her dad (at the time) but whatever the energy would have been, Chthon changed it into magic energy. So she’s a mutant whose power is to use magic.

No, I don’t know why Marvel comics in this era have the flashbacks all one color. Very distracting.

And yes, she and Pietro should be considered mutants again. It’s very 2020s Marvel how they play up minor parts of their convoluted history like being raised by Romani or being Magneto’s children, but refuse to call them mutants, a foundational part of their history.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:00:00 AM No.149720255
>>149719933
So she has the power of power and a wizard injected her magic so she has the power of magic power?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:06:04 AM No.149720350
>>149720255
It’s more like she’s Magneto, Master of Magnetism except instead of Magnetism it’s… Magicnetism? Maginectism?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:40:22 AM No.149720836
How come there are mutants who have telepathy as their power, but there are non mutant telepaths as well, some of which learned it as a skill and others seem to just be plagued by visions without trying to do so?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:21:00 AM No.149721417
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>>149719064 (OP)
>>Wanda is now Sorceress Supreme
When was that announced? I thought we were still in the early phase of "Who will be the new Sorcerer Supreme?" hype for the upcoming mini. Marvel can't be dumb enough to blow the reveal this far in advance, would they?

>>149719610
>Has anyone ever interacted with Wanda? Are they just pretending she isn't famously schizophrenic
Like with most characters, the way Wanda was when Bendis wrote her isn't the way she is most of the time. It may be her only story you've heard of, but she's not known for being "famously schizo" in-universe.

>most of the rest of the thread is just people who still can't accept Wanda isn't a mutant and isn't related to Magneto
We're going to be having arguments about whether what Wanda's fans want for her is more important than what X-Men fans want forever, aren't we? This is never going to end.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:25:54 AM No.149721500
>>149719064 (OP)
What happened to Dr Strange? I know they had him make Doom Sorcerer Supreme for the latest shitty event but then they stopped his book. Which was one of the few I actually read.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:31:50 AM No.149721584
>>149720836
Earth X said it's all mutants or mutants latent powers
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:42:18 AM No.149721726
>>149721500
Strange just ended a mini where Yggdrasil made him the new Sorcerer Supreme of Asgard
Just in time for the Rainbow Bridge to be broken and for the 9 Realms to get cut off from Midgard and everyone on Earth to forget about everything Asgardian

So he might be stuck on Asgard until the whole Mortal Thor thing gets resolved
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:42:20 AM No.149721730
>>149719279
>>149719330

Agreed. I still enjoy X-men because for some reason I enjoy the clusterfuck worldbuilding that mixes basically every type of every lore ever written, but as with most capeshit, 99% of the characters are really poorly written and their progression boils down to asspull power ups.
But this guy has a point >>149719091
The women in X-men are all Mary Sues. Every single one of them. The few ones that aren't yet will be.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:44:57 AM No.149721768
>>149721730
Even the ones that have shitty/gross powers?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:46:30 AM No.149721792
>>149721417
Wanda anon, I commend your eternal struggle and fight for your fave character
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:43:55 AM No.149722574
>>149720350
Aetherism, Manamism, Magnetitetism.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:50:18 AM No.149722660
>>149719064 (OP)
1. Wanda isn't a fucking X-Men character.
2. If you actually read Avengers comics, which is her home for all but a scant handful of appearances, Wanda started learning magic in 1974.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:50:21 AM No.149722663
Magnetism has things like fields and poles, so Ley Lines.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:51:26 AM No.149722681
>>149722660
All muties are X-Men characters. Even Mandrill.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:53:02 AM No.149722706
>>149719064 (OP)
Don't you bring your fucking "Logic" into this house of Marvel. Characters have what powers when they need them for whatever reason.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:54:33 AM No.149722727
>>149722681
Good thing she's not a mutie then.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:56:38 AM No.149722753
You want me to believe the x-men are oppressed when they have mutants strong as gods?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:57:23 AM No.149722766
Anyone else hate the magic in Marvel? It's so boring compared to DC's.
>CAPTCHA:G0DKT
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:58:14 AM No.149722778
>>149719091
>storms entire personality, and character outside of being a black woman
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:58:21 AM No.149722780
>>149722753
Not all of them are as strong as gods. Some are just fabulously wealthy and own multinational corporations.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:01:08 AM No.149722820
>>149719537
>I dunno why they changed that
At the time Fox still owned the movie rights to mutants, and they wanted to take the rights away from them by making characters they were using no longer mutants.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:04:18 AM No.149722875
>>149722820
They changed it because Magneto being her dad was a shitty retcon that everybody hated except for the weirdo Magneto fans.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:07:05 AM No.149722918
>>149722875
You don’t like mutant hitler being their father?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:09:08 AM No.149722952
>>149722918
>>149722875
>>149722820
I remember when people were going crazy about Jewish propaganda because people online didn't know that she didn't identify as Jewish despite her canonical dad for most of the continuity Magneto being known to be Jewish Holocaust Survivor like you need to check every Holocaust Survivors children identify as Jewish or not before you can call the kids Jewish in real life.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:14:07 AM No.149723034
>>149722952
What the fuck are you trying to say? Magneto himself is an atheist, and the Twins didn't meet Magneto until they were teenagers and didn't know he was their dad until they were adults.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:15:51 AM No.149723060
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>>149721792
Thanks, anon. It sure would have been easier if someone else was my waifu, someone who Marvel hadn't put so much effort into ruining, but I didn't really have a choice, it just happened. Sometimes it feels like things are never going to get better, because there are too many people who actively want things to be awful.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:17:47 AM No.149723084
>>149723034
>p
And in one of the X-Men movie they saw him in a concentration camp the audience therefore knows he's a holocaust Survivor that's not going to change if you're an atheist after the fact.You're expecting people on the internet making news articles to use 10 hours of like Research into comic book how it does when Common Sense would tell you his children would have known him and grown up Jewish if he's a holocaust Survivor. But no people want ballistic about Jewish propaganda instead of completing about online articles not doing enough research.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:20:58 AM No.149723124
>>149722820
Be that as it may, Wanda is primarily an Avengers and mystic character. That her powers are now just magic because she's just a witch is a lot simpler and sensible, and her stories are not 'allegory for minorities' stories. Wanda not being a mutant is an improvement, and liberates her from a corner of Marvel that usually just abuses her, or it would if the idiots would stop this stupid 'found family' nonsense. People are complaining about the change just because things that were canon when they started reading got changed, without stopping to think whether it's for the better or not, and in this case it is.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:27:35 AM No.149723229
What if there was a story where Nuklo, Polaris, and Luminous are forced to team up?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:28:57 AM No.149723257
>>149723229
>Walk in a bar
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:30:22 AM No.149723278
>>149723124
My personal thought is that if the Twins are his children then they're better of not being mutants, and if they are mutants then they're better of not being his children. But the most important thing is that Magneto needs to be a bastard regarding how he deals with them.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:32:43 AM No.149723310
>>149719610
They should just retcon all the Bendis slop out of existence
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:34:11 AM No.149723331
>>149723124
Why don't they just fix the way the X-Men are written so it doesn't fuck over people outside their books?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:38:43 AM No.149723403
Christmas 1985
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>>149722918
It didn't do anything good for Wanda, or Pietro, or Lorna, did it? All it did was diminish them, it created an audience who didn't see them as characters in their own right, and just saw them as "Magneto's kids", even when they were in other books and avoiding the mad old terrorist.

>>149723034
The twins getting their backstory and even ethnicity changed around several times depending on what X-Men writers are doing with Magneto this week is just one more reason why making them related was awful, and it's ended up impacting what they look like in the comics now. We're now living in a time where people who actually read comics know the twins weren't raised by Magneto and aren't Jewish, and never identified as Jewish, but there's a hell of a lot of casuals out there who've just assumed these things to be true, and instead of just accepting the facts when they're told, they instead want the characters to conform to their headcanon.

>>149723278
>But the most important thing is that Magneto needs to be a bastard regarding how he deals with them.
Good luck with that, Marvel seems to be full of writers lining up to suck him off. Look at how they kept turning the twins crazy to maintain conflict between them and Magneto while treating him as the good guy.

It's genuinely sad that so many Quicksilver fans are so absolutely buckbroken that "being Magneto's mutant son" is literally all they seem to care about for the character they supposedly love.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:53:58 AM No.149723631
>>149719064 (OP)
Gypsies are onthologically demonic
Look at wanda and doom and that hag from that one raimi movie
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:55:41 AM No.149723656
>>149723403
Who the fuck cares about Quicksilver without his angst? 0 niggas do
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:57:57 AM No.149723688
>>149723656
He has other things to angst about, like his sister and how he is slower than other speedsters and how Luna could be reconned to not being his daughter at at any time.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:58:33 AM No.149723697
>>149719064 (OP)
She’ll probably fart
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:00:17 AM No.149723718
>>149723688
>how Luna could be reconned to not being his daughter at at any time.
Why would they do that?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:01:39 AM No.149723736
>>149723718
There is no reason to do it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:02:44 AM No.149723753
>>149723631
>Fanboy writers make Magneto and Pietro related because they both have white hair
>X-Men writers decide Magneto's wife was a gypsy
>Marvel just accidentally made Wanda and Pietro part-gypsy
>Somehow sticks even after Magneto being their father is finally undone
>Woketards start bullying Marvel into changing Wanda's appearance
>Most of them don't want Pietro's appearance changed, they care more about making him look like Magneto
>A lot of them don't even care that much about Doom's appearance or who plays him in movies
Sometimes it's painfully obvious when petty spiteful bitches just want to ruin people's waifus.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:03:03 AM No.149723761
>>149723688
>Like other speedsters
Like who? I don't know
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:10:36 AM No.149723880
>>149723656
>Who the fuck cares about Quicksilver without his angst?
Not many people care about him with or without angst. His fans face a binary choice between him being defined by his connection to his more popular sister, or by his more popular ex-father, and some of them seem somehow convinced that being Magneto's son was a pathway to stardom and importance for him.

And if angst is that important to you, any professional writer should be able to find something better for him to angst about than recycling the exact same character beats he kept going through for decades.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:12:01 AM No.149723905
>>149723060
as someone who's been getting into Hank Pym and Kang these past few years, I get the struggle of having to bat for who you like and the disrespect they receive cause of ignorance. At least with me being a meg simp for Rita Demara means I'm just annoyed she's dead cause of a story instead of utter character assassination aimed at her.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:12:25 AM No.149723910
>>149723403
One of my favorite things about WandaVision was the multi-level seethe it generated in X-fans.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:13:14 AM No.149723925
>>149723753
I'm not sure if the order of operations was exactly correct for Gypsy being directly Magneto support since it was under Vision and Scarlet Witch Vol. 2 recounting her past that Wanda refers to her birth mother as a Gypsy while nothing regarding that was mentioned in Magneto's own flashbacks. But in any case, she should look like herself.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:13:44 AM No.149723934
>>149719064 (OP)
She looks really hot here
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:19:08 AM No.149724016
>>149723688
I find it hilarious that Luna exists because Marvel’s editorial team didn’t want Crystal tied to Johnny Storm. They broke up the pairing (a fan favorite back then), married Johnny to someone else, and later gave Crystal a baby to ensure they’d never reunite. The fact that Crystal’s marriage to Quicksilver went to shit is the icing on the cake.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:25:42 AM No.149724094
>>149723880
>And if angst is that important to you, any professional writer should be able to find something better for him to angst about than recycling the exact same character beats he kept going through for decades.
Outta all the known Avengers toys, Pietro is one of the most neglected. Even after two well received movie portrayals.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:31:04 AM No.149724172
wandavision halloween costume
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>>149723905
Sadly, sometimes dead means they can't hurt them anymore.

>>149723910
It's difficult to comprehend the level of selfishness and entitlement it would take to think that the first adaptation where Wanda and Vision took a lead role should really be all about introducing X-Men, mutants and Magneto, and even insisting this was "a reasonable expectation". It really was people who already have everything still not being satisfied unless everyone else around them gets nothing.

>>149723925
I think there's an earlier mention of it in one of the Handbooks, if it's just something a Handbook writer made up, that's even worse. Regardless, it's not something anyone writing Wanda or Pietro ever planned or wanted, it just got imposed on them, and shouldn't affect their long-established appearances.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:32:43 AM No.149724203
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>>149723934
Why couldn't Marvel have got Frank Cho to be the cover artist for Wanda's solo books?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:42:36 AM No.149724307
>>149724016
It's funny how one of Crystal's healthiest relationships is with Ronan of all guys.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:45:42 AM No.149724341
>>149723761
Makkari
Whizzer
Buried Alien

There was a whole issue of Quasar about it
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:46:22 AM No.149724346
>>149724307
Crystal's family forcing her into a political marriage to a villain was awful, and the "then she falls for him" part was even worse. Just because Ronan stood alongside everyone else against the Annihilation Wave and the Phalanx doesn't erase his long history of being a warmongering villain.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:47:36 AM No.149724362
>>149724341
To be fair, Quicksilver has had some power creep since then, and 'Buried Alien' has gone home.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:52:25 AM No.149724430
>>149724341
Monica Rambeau
Northstar and Aurora
Maybe Lightspeed if she lives up to her name?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:55:41 AM No.149724471
>>149724346
But heroine and villain romance is kinda neato
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:01:47 AM No.149724546
>>149722875
Magneto being her dad was the only thing I, or anyone I know, knew about Scarlet Witch for years.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:07:47 AM No.149724640
>>149724094
Sure, but at the same time if it weren't for Harras and PAD he wouldn't have had anything going for him in the X-Office either.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:51:01 AM No.149725225
Normal sister and brother
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When will they revive the incest arc with them? There have been some hints about it.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:57:08 AM No.149725306
>>149725225
Never.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:58:09 AM No.149725314
>>149725225
You should post the rest of those hints
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:12:51 AM No.149725468
>>149722875
Anon, like or dislike it, you can't fucking deny that the change only happened because Disney and FOX were having a slapfight about the rights.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:53:05 AM No.149725910
>>149725468
And not FOX is Disney, so it was all for nothing.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:13:38 AM No.149726581
>>149719064 (OP)
I have no clue. Apparently, making things improbable happen === reality warping === magic shit.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:03:04 AM No.149726905
>>149726581
*making improbable things happens
But yeah, powercreed is confused with good character development. See Miles Morales.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:12:39 AM No.149727809
>>149723631
>>149723753
>>149724172
I just want a sexy gypsy to make more white men take them out of their abusive homes and give them a nice life
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:10:34 PM No.149728596
>>149719064 (OP)
As far as I understand since Magik was a thing, the X-gene can grant you control over basic aspects of the universe/physics/etc. Magik gets a direct connection to a dimension close to the main dimension and Scarlet Witch gets to tap into magic due to that mutation because magic is also dimensional power in the Marvel Universe. You can headcanon/handwave that the reason why her powers were always ambiguous is because the main researchers in the mutant gene don't also overlap with magical users, so they tried to explain her powers through scientific terms. It also explains why Agatha, an actual witch, is usually the person she relies on to supress/contain her power depending on the continuity.

The X-gene basically just allows Wanda to manipulate magic in the same way it allows Magneto to control magnetism, a basic physical aspect of the universe.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:15:05 PM No.149728625
>>149722727
Krakoa gave her an X-Gene after she resurrected herself and made a secondary mutant heaven/notWhiteHotRoom in Trials of Magneto. Most writers probably forgot about that since Krakoa was AC/DC about artificial mutants such as letting Sinister/Struckers on Krakoa but throwing Franklin away for a fake reality warped X-Gene but she's pretty much a mutant genetically thanks to her reality warping.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:15:40 PM No.149728632
>>149728596
Magik's actual mutant power is teleportation, everything else is an acquired ability.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:16:02 PM No.149728634
There's gypsies all over my country and I've never once seen a gypsy woman that could be a real life Esmeralda or Wanda. What fucking retard made up the myth of the beautiful exotic gypsy woman.
Replies: >>149728668 >>149729446
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:19:00 PM No.149728657
>>149728632
But teleportation only to limbo? Like how some continuities imply that's how nightcrawlers teleportations actually works?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:19:14 PM No.149728660
>>149728596
>since Magik was a thing, the X-gene can grant you control over basic aspects of the universe/physics/etc
that's been the case since day one, did you really think a genetic mutation allowed Jean Grey to pick up and throw things with her mind, or Cyclops to shoot eyelasers? the X-Gene mutation has always been a faux logic for basically magical abilities
Replies: >>149730028 >>149730620
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:20:01 PM No.149728668
>>149728634
The few pretty (and smart) ones soon marry a non-gypsy man and stop being gypsies.
Replies: >>149729446
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:26:43 PM No.149729105
>>149719064 (OP)
TUMMMYYYYYYY
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:02:42 PM No.149729446
>>149728634
>>149728668
You see the 50s ones THAT ARE really ugly, like indians.
You need to look for gypsie girls on their 20s, because after 25, like any south asiatic race, they become fugly fat fridges
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:13:32 PM No.149730028
>>149728660
So the meme that Wolverine gets his powers from the meat dimension is real?
Replies: >>149730620
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:04:32 PM No.149730620
>>149728660
>>149730028
No, that's not what I mean. X-genes can provide you with control over basic universal aspects and magic is a universal aspect in the marvel universe, not some esoteric mystical power like it is in DC. It's just interdimensional powers. Magic and Science in the marvel universe are much closer than in the DC universe. A metahuman in the DC universe would never be able to naturally tap in magical powers like the ones doctor Fate uses because there's an actual god-like entity that keep check of those powers, in the Marvel universe, even if you are Mephisto or Dormmanmu, you are just as aspect of a dimension that anybody with the skill can tap into.
Replies: >>149730655 >>149730772
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:06:57 PM No.149730651
>>149719091
>>149719279
>>149721730
>when you realize all of the most powerful X-men are women
The only male who can keep up is Wolverine due to plot armor.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:07:12 PM No.149730655
>>149730620
To be fair DC has a whole subspecies of humanity called Homo Magi

People born with the power to tap into magic
Replies: >>149730772
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:16:49 PM No.149730772
>>149730620
>>149730655
Didn't a Doom Patrol magician did it too? Randomly entering in contact with the magic of the dimension of magic and the lord of that thing just said that it was happening?
Or I'm confusing with Dial H where the dial device randomly entered in connection with different magic dimensions?
Replies: >>149731601
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:14:01 PM No.149731601
>>149730772
It was a Dial H issue
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:19:28 PM No.149731658
>>149722952
Judaism is matrilineal.
Replies: >>149733718
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:25:43 PM No.149731743
>>149729446
Anon I promise you that the attractive ones out of the early 20s are passably cute at best and still look vaguely inbred or like a cjav slut
Replies: >>149736726
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:02:43 PM No.149732267
>>149722952
I finally get why toad was abused so much
He was magnetos sacrificial chicken you beat over the side of a van to transfer your sins
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:31:22 PM No.149733655
>>149725306
>tfw Anon's 1944 mind cannot process present day anything
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:35:04 PM No.149733718
>>149731658
But was Pietro circumcized? Because you know the meme of "jew mother means you're jew" but without circumcision he is just a transgoy, that's why that liberaljudaism sect of jews that don't do circumcisions aren't considered jews
Replies: >>149737019
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:39:37 PM No.149733775
>>149719064 (OP)
Sometimes your x-gene gives you connection to things like magic, time travel, reality manipulation or other dimensions, like Cyclops' punch dimension, Proteus' reality warping, Eve's time manipulation, Magik's dark dimension or that girl with the power to shit ice cream from the ice cream dimension.
Replies: >>149734718
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:38:55 PM No.149734718
>>149733775
So the meme that Wolverine gets his powers from the meat dimension is real?
Replies: >>149741095
Anonyrnous
8/6/2025, 11:50:01 PM No.149735941
Artgerm
Artgerm
md5: c36769bd75acb4aea5df865f9e007993🔍
>>149724172
I hate that WandaVision was just a one-and-done series

Need more Scarlet Witch...
Replies: >>149737205
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:29:48 AM No.149736615
>>149724471
>But heroine and villain romance is kinda neato
It works best when the villain is lower-tier or hasn't done anything too bad, so could be plausibly redeemable. Or if the hero is morally ambiguous enough that they could conceivably do a heel turn to be with their love, I guess. Sadly comics do prefer to do this stuff with big name value villains who are too evil and have done too much already for it really be believable that any sane heroine is going to fall for them.

But Crystal/Ronan was doing "heroine/villain" AND "forced arranged marriage...but then they fall in love" at the same time. One or the other can work, but "forced arranged marriage to a villain...but then they fall in love" is just too much, especially when the bad guy was a really bad guy for most of his history.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:33:19 AM No.149736679
>>149728625
This is just headcanon. Wanda resurrected herself, literally emerging from a cloud of smoke before The Five could even prepare a clone pod for her.
Replies: >>149737330
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:35:44 AM No.149736726
>>149731743
I met them in the campos and when they're at the RIGHT age before fridge curse they're fuckable, but needs to be quick because they get old in days after
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:52:23 AM No.149737019
>>149733718
>But was Pietro circumcized?
There's no reason to assume he would have been. Depending on origins, he was either raised by Bova amongst the High Evolutionary's New Men, or the High Evolutionary just gave him to random gypsies to adopt, and a few retcons later they ended up currently being actually his uncle and aunt instead of randos.

Through all the retcons, there's no point where his mother was ever Jewish, and no point where he was ever raised by Jewish people, and we've seen his sister celebrates Christmas.

The actual story here is Pietro and Wanda being grown adults in their 20s when Magneto shows up claiming to be their real dad. That he was an infamous terrorist leader AND the guy who victimized them so badly when they were teens, the one man in all the world they hated and feared the most, that all mattered more to them than caring what Magneto's religion or ethnicity were.
Replies: >>149737821 >>149738206
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:00:38 AM No.149737205
the greatest moment in television history
the greatest moment in television history
md5: c665e7e1b3ce4f41a8974dbac1c9fb1e🔍
>>149735941
In a better world, we would be currently looking forward to the 6th season of WandaVision and wondering which comic costume Lizzie was going to wear this time for the Halloween episode.
Replies: >>149738608 >>149739274
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:07:25 AM No.149737330
>>149736679
No, they state she has an X-Gene so if she died, she would go to that mutant heaven and then could be resurrected by The Five. She never used it again, but she has an X-Gene now.
Replies: >>149737636
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:23:29 AM No.149737636
>>149737330
Post proof. She literally states she's not a mutant in the final issue of Trial of Magneto, and Marvel have only doubled down on that since.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:34:07 AM No.149737821
>>149737019
So Pietro is a normal slavic dude
Replies: >>149738251
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:57:03 AM No.149738206
>>149737019
Do gentiles practice circumcision like in the united states over there?
Replies: >>149738550
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:59:04 AM No.149738251
>>149737821
That's what Lee and Kirby intended, so that's all he should ever have been. The MCU was correct to just restore the twins to the original concept and disregard all the Magneto-centric retcons that were never really about them anyway.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:17:07 AM No.149738550
>>149738206
No, unless they go into porn
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:20:36 AM No.149738608
>>149737205
That white cunt deserves to be blacklisted for stealing work from a brown romani woman
Replies: >>149738662
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:23:41 AM No.149738662
>>149738608
I hope for your sake this is just bait and you're really not that retarded.
Replies: >>149739173
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:52:49 AM No.149739173
>>149738662
She's brown. Seethe.
Replies: >>149739297 >>149739785
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:57:48 AM No.149739274
1525551326496
1525551326496
md5: 8a8e169f8cfc201b1402726a3e65dcc3🔍
>>149737205
milk.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:59:17 AM No.149739297
1551536255883
1551536255883
md5: fe171097057b2087cbf39f9a564d6221🔍
>>149739173
You're even worse than the literal pedos here, saar.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:25:06 AM No.149739785
>>149739173
She was a redhead in her first appearence
Replies: >>149739898 >>149740944
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:31:35 AM No.149739898
Avengers 164-006
Avengers 164-006
md5: 6e7843e05b99adc997415a1186ed4c11🔍
>>149739785
And her first canon parents were white Americans, which is so inconvenient to the cancel-MCU-Wanda crowd that they've taken to insisting they were never intended to be her parents and it was just a red herring.

The truth that any pre-2004 Avengers comic reader knows is that all her parental origins are minor and stupid and the MCU went for the best, most comic accurate portrayal by making her and Pietro the children of Eastern European nobodies who existed only to die.

(Also speaking of power creep, this comic tried to explain away an earlier comic that had her flying, though the letterer got the issue number wrong. Wanda could never fly until well into the 21st century and now she flies all the time in all media. Not sure I understand why everyone wants her to fly.)
Replies: >>149740573 >>149746659 >>149746682
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:37:00 AM No.149739983
>>149722778
I liked her chemistry with Thor back in the day. Genuinely would've been a better pairing than her and T'challa.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:12:43 AM No.149740573
>>149739898
They don't care they just want her to be brown. Her skin color is the only thing that matters. Even if a character is half-white they expect them to be dark brown.
Replies: >>149740685
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:19:34 AM No.149740685
>>149740573
It's true, I just can't figure out why Marvel Comics go along with it. I hope the MCU version comes back because that's the only thing that can end this stupid cycle, given that attempts to make the Maximoffs brown are almost entirely about attempts to cancel the MCU version (i.e. having "evidence" to point to that the MCU version is whitewashed and should be replaced).
Replies: >>149741018
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:31:50 AM No.149740944
>>149739785
Racism
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:35:25 AM No.149741018
>>149740685
You chuds lost. Marvel is never making her white again.
Replies: >>149741073 >>149741355
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:38:28 AM No.149741073
>>149741018
I think it's entirely possible that the comics could continue coloring her wrong for the rest of my life, they make stupid mistakes all the time that they refuse to reverse.

It won't change that she and Pietro canonically look like the children of white Americans, so the MCU is true to their comics history while their current comics look is based on not knowing comics history (very common among comic book editors).
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:39:51 AM No.149741095
>>149734718
No, it's just a meme.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:55:31 AM No.149741355
>>149741018
She's white in multiple comics that came out this very day. They even have other white people in the same panel with her to show she is colored the same in one of them.
Replies: >>149741463 >>149744941
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:02:25 AM No.149741463
>>149741355
Sh! Don't say what comics they are or the skin tone brigade will descend on the colorists and browbeat them into changing her to the (wrong) color.

Like that artist who apologized for drawing Wanda in "Trial of Magneto" like Elizabeth Olsen, the most comic accurate Wanda in any adaptation (for better or worse).

What a world where someone apologizes not for tracing, but tracing someone who looks too much like the character.
Replies: >>149746659
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:37:02 AM No.149741957
>>149719064 (OP)
I need Elizabeth Olsen bros
Replies: >>149741972
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:38:09 AM No.149741972
>>149741957
Her best days are behind her. She looks melted now.
Replies: >>149743160 >>149744677
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:04:21 AM No.149743160
bananah
bananah
md5: 9507448625e0ecf5bf8c8ea5a4da9cc3🔍
>>149741972
I don't believe you
Replies: >>149743685 >>149745141
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:49:22 AM No.149743685
bretty in black
bretty in black
md5: 6ace2fcce5ba9f2d2f3dc60f21da352f🔍
>>149743160
I wish to see her eat that banana whole...
Replies: >>149745141 >>149747407
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:22:20 AM No.149743998
>>149721417
>We're going to be having arguments about whether what Wanda's fans want for her is more important than what X-Men fans want forever, aren't we? This is never going to end.
This happens with every character related to the X-Men. They don't even like her or care about her, they just want her related to mutants because she's a toy that was taken away from them even though they never used her.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:49:10 AM No.149744677
>>149741972
I don't care, I want to love her even as she whitered away. That is true love.
Replies: >>149744823
sPP
8/7/2025, 10:15:53 AM No.149744823
>>149744677
I have to actually let others try since it is a magical challenge, depending.
Technically I can undo this
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:17:17 AM No.149744833
>>149719610
>Are they just pretending she isn't famously schizophrenic and hoping she'll do a good job
Have you read anything about her before bendis ruined her?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:26:36 AM No.149744883
>>149725225
What hints??
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:35:14 AM No.149744941
>>149741355
>implying comics matter
Adaptations rule the perception.
Rivals is more impactful to what people think of comic characters than any of the recent comics.
Replies: >>149744983
Cyn
8/7/2025, 10:45:47 AM No.149744983
>>149744941
–glitch return
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 11:05:12 AM No.149745141
>>149743160
>>149743685
Uglified by age
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:18:25 PM No.149746659
>>149739898
Because witches are traditionally associated with flying.

>>149741463
It's even funnier when it's the people who want Magneto as her father because you get to point out that it means her dad is white.
Replies: >>149746682
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:20:18 PM No.149746682
>>149739898
>>149746659
With broomsticks, Wanda had none
Replies: >>149747018
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:56:12 PM No.149747018
>>149746682
Associations between witches and flying goes well beyond brooms.
Replies: >>149747690
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:30:17 PM No.149747407
>>149743685
pinchable nips
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:55:17 PM No.149747690
>>149747018
When they fly with bat and owl wings that Wanda didn't have?