Thread 150069890

Bah! When Dr. Z harasses you, you know it! A giant metal crab would tear the roof off of your trailer, no less than six suicide assassins would spring from its belly!

was Dr. Z responsible also for that weird rash Johnny caught when he was partying with some crazy Gypsys in Lithuania while on acid?

So who was Jonas Venture's main arch again? Was it Doctor Z, or Force Majeure? Am I forgetting a third?

>>150069890 (OP)
Cigar?

>>150070039
I thought it was the big headed pink guy

>>150070039
I believe arching Jonas venture was free game until they establish levels then pretty much doctor z and force majeure were his main antagonist

>>150069890 (OP)
I remember when Season 3/4 came out and it was a lot of fun having discussions about each new episode on /co/ back in 08-10. After that, the show's inconsistency of new seasons along with cut down episodes just felt like a prolonged inevitable death.

Should I join the Peril Partnership?
I've been with the guild for some time and they keep ignoring my complaints.
Look I have nothing against the guy. It's just his theme as a villain doesn't fit mine. I'm a fire fighter and they keep pairing me up against Check Mate. He is a chess themed villain. Is there some sort of shortage of fire based villains they are not allowing me to have?

>>150070039
>Am I forgetting a third?
Scaramantula. And also supposedly L. Ron Hubbard.

>>150070210
That only applied to members of the Guild. People of other supervillain organizations like the Peril Partnership and the Fraternity of Torment I would think operated on their own rules.

>>150069890 (OP)
So who did release the snake?

>>150070455
Monarch.

>>150070256
Peril Partnership has a crap ton of ice based villains in Canada so that might work for you.

>>150070039
Jonas was a trailblazer in super science and attracted a lot of attention. The levels of aggression were created because of him. He was probably arched by anyone that wanted to make a name for themselves. That's probably the reason there's so many security measures in the Compound and several mass graves. I think he's the kind of guy that would eventually just kill any arch that gets too annoying and keeps him from getting work done and that kept even the big villains from annoying him too frequently

>>150070690
Technically it was created because of Action Man

>>150070210
It literally was, system was invented when Rusty was a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoVsAjTeAM
But Dr. Z was drunk arching Venture in 1977, when Rusty would have been a teenager, born canonically in 1960, meaning it was post-system. Arching is technically free-game, it's more that the "TURF" of arching was assigned to one individual. Wide Whale had his network in Season 6 that Monarch worked his way through, but he also needed his level up to approve the arching rights as well. So really anyone could, in actuality few did probably because Monarch kept trying to kill those dudes.

So to answer >>150070039 Given what we know of the canon, Force Majeure, and Doctor Z was just the sort to fuck with Venture regionally like that quick flashback with the red helpers, or in this drunken bit that made him find Venturion.
>>150070455
Post credit scene, it was the Monarch.

>>150070690
ah like Jonas Jr

>>150070940
I think the difference is Jj genuinely didn't like arching, Jonas seems to like the game to a point but is enough of a psycho that he'd just kill someone once he was bored or properly annoyed. Like he literally wrote the rules for Arching so he likes the idea of "kidnap my son" but also wants it so he can be like "The boy has Appendicitis give us a raincheck....hold onto Kano as a voucher"

Has any done an EMA evaluation for major DC/Marvel characters?

>>150071421
What was the criteria for every level?

>>150070455

I'm still wondering if Doc and Jackson were setting up a reveal that it was actually the Monarch that set into motion 24th's death

> In Season 2, 21 reveals to 24 as they're escaping Henry Killinger's cell that he'd killed the Monarch's pet cat, Mr Mostly Mittens, by accidentally sitting on him
> Cut to post-24's death, where Dr Mrs The Monarch and the Monarch are having dinner discussing 21's behavior of talking to his friend's dead skull. Monarch downplays it as normal, since he still talks to HIS dead best friend- Mr Mostly Mittens, who's been stuffed and mounted behind the dinner table. Monarch clearly loved that cat
> During the Shallow Gravy mid-season special, during Monarch's interview after 21's, he claims to be the one to have "broke up the band", which in context might be Shallow Gravy but he might be alluding to something else
> When he finds 21's "I for an Eye" revenge list, he's offended that he's not listed as one of the suspects for 24's death and pencils himself in
> The Moppets deny being the ones responsible for 24's death, even as they're killed by a vengeful 21 and the other henchmen for it
> It would absolutely be within the show's themes to be setting up the Monatch and 21's close friendship, thinking mystery of the death of 24 has been closed, for it to be a late game reveal by the Monarch that the whole thing was an elaborate, long game vendetta against 21 for killing his best friend by killing HIS best friend, growing close with each other only to make the Monarch's eventual backstab hurt that much more

>>150071686
Seems pretty far-fetched. Monarch's way too impulsive to think that long-term.

>>150069890 (OP)
[spoier] IGNORE HIM!!! [/spoiler]

>>150071724
He’s been seething at Rusty for decades because he thought he fucked his college girlfriend.

>>150071686
How would he have detonated the car while stuck in a metal mold and vomitting from dizziness, without ever knowing 24 was even in his car? Also I agree with >>150071724

>>150071768
That was Mike Sorayama, you dumbass.

>>150071629
Some combination of skills, resources, and the willingness to use them. As for what gets you into each individual level, I don't know.

>>150071818
No, Monarch thinks Rusty fucked Debbie.

Does OSI do anything besides acting like Anti-Guild contractors in the later seasons?

>>150072578
Make up bullshit to get more funding, like the CIA adding a couple zeros to the russia nuke count they totally did

>>150071809
Pressed a button on his hand he was going to press in the climax of the fight, breaking his TWO greatest nemeses in one climactic fight.

It's been years but I still am amazed at how good this show was. It's like a handy little barometer to check if someone has good taste. If they get the jokes and references and nods then you know they're going to be one of the good ones

>>150071016
>Like he literally wrote the rules for Arching so he likes the idea of "kidnap my son" but also wants it so he can be like "The boy has Appendicitis give us a raincheck....hold onto Kano as a voucher"
based.
kano would be a fun hostage to keep around for a week.

>>150070039
Force majore was his main arch, Dr z arched action johnnys dad, but presumably they all just fought each other in general

I seriously wish they’d just give Jackson and Publik Johnny quest and let them make a season

>>150070455
As someone else said, the monarch (specifically Gary) did
https://youtu.be/nc7b_PtX1LI?t=200

>>150070153
No I don't smoke

>>150072578
They also keep rogue villains/villain groups in check.

>>150072734
Regular Johnny or Venture-verse Johnny? Because I always imagined the former as being where alt-Rusty at the end of Bright Lights, Dean City comes from. And Johnny and Hadji grow up to be explorers.

What would you like to see if they ever made another season? A Peril Partnership/GCI War?

I kind of want that alien from Tw ety Years to Midnight reappears but gets stranded so Rusty has to deal with this asshole alien that looks like his dad and is pissed he's trapped on Earth.

>>150072902
I would like them to do what they planned on doing before the movie. Flesh out Hank’s trip, deal with Serena and the like. Hank having a growing up arc would have been good, it would be kind of like what happened Dean but less mopey. Maybe end with him deciding to join the OSI or something.

>>150071686
I think the set up was that Henchman 1 was the one that killed him and either because they ran out of time or they couldn't convincingly have the reveal before Gargantua-2 they just decided to forget about that plotline but he's the most likely culprit.

>He was going off on his own trying to get revenge
>He was a good infiltrator and definitely knew how to move around the cocoon unnoticed also he can basically pretend to be any of the other dumb drones and no one would notice.
>It would also make sense that he would try to steal equipment from the cocoon since the monarch has pretty good gear despite his terrible henchmen
>He had beef against both 24 and 21 for leaving him for dead
>My guess is he was stealing gear to plot his revenge while everyone was distracted fighting the clones and Brock and he came across the detonator left by Sheila and he used the opportunity to kill 24 before leaving or go into hiding in the cocoon again.

>>150072951
>Hank having a growing up arc would have been good, it would be kind of like what happened Dean but less mopey.
or what happened to 21
Dean should finish his mopey arc one way or another

>>150072951
I usually like episodes where Rusty is actually competent at what he does, so a handful of those sprinkled in.

I wish Hank and Deal realized they spoke to their grandmother

>>150072817
Cigar?

>>150072902
Work a lot of their unused ideas for the new season. Have Force Majuere be the brains behind the Peril Partnership have Mantila be back as a double agent have her new villain name be Sheer Force I just made that up and I like it so most the ideas can be there.
MORE ORDER OF THE TRIAD! A full episode with the Chicago setting would've been so much fucking fun and we only got a tiny taste.

>>150070690
It was never explicitly said, but there's no way in hell Jonas didn't raid the gear of whoever showed up to fight. "Hm, novel design for an ice ray... Of course, not nearly as advanced as mine... but I have to admit you found some creative workarounds for working with a more... modest budget."

Rusty was always my favorite character. Even the reveals that he did some fucked up stuff on occasion never soured me on him. It makes me sound when the universe shits on him

>>150070919
>born canonically in 1960
The original was. The Clone that we've known the whole time throughout the series was created in 1965. We know that seasons 1-3 take place in 2008, and Rusty confirms he's 43 years old. 2008 - 43 = 1965.

>Arching is technically free-game, it's more that the "TURF" of arching was assigned to one individual. Wide Whale had his network in Season 6 that Monarch worked his way through, but he also needed his level up to approve the arching rights as well. So really anyone could, in actuality few did probably because Monarch kept trying to kill those dudes.
To add to this, Guild law stipulates that if a member of the Guild is related to a "protagonist" they are entitled to a blood feud, which theoretically may supersede the EMA levels. Which all the more adds insult to injury to the Monarch because it potentially means that he rose up to qualify to arch Rusty all for nothing because by law and by blood he is entitled to exclusive rights to arch Rusty.

>>150074174
I wish he had more Boy Adventurer episodes with Billy Quizboy.

They had fun together.

My dad claims She-Hemoth hit on him at Max’s Kansas City in the 70s.

If Venture Bros had a parody of Sonic the Hedgehog what do you think he’d be like?
For some reason I feel like he’d be based on an irl cryptid

>>150073636
No...

>>150074473
>Pete: So you spliced cheetah and hedgehog DNA?
>Rusty: It's for long range reconnaissance.
>Pete: But why is it blue?
>Rusty: Oh who the hell knows when you mix DNA! That's why we need to dye it a more Army-friendly camo green.
>Billy: What's that thing in its neck?
>Rusty: Oh, that's the spinal implant for the amphetamines.

>>150074774
Hey boss, what's the plan to catch the boy and his dog?

>>150074473
I feel like they'd pull from the early backstory of Sonic being a science experiment by Doctor Eggman except it would be like a really cynical take on Young Frankenstein crossed with "Star Wars but the Rebels are controlled opposition" and some commentary on the war-industrial complex. Sonic is like Che Guevara crossed with Osama Bin Laden.

>currently exists as a wayward cryptid addicted to speed hiding out in the desert with a small army at his side

Sonic would be the result of Eggman creating an enemy in order to make as much profit as possible through deforesting and capturing woodland creatures, and having said creatures wage a revolution against him. He creates Sonic to be the face of a rebellion but then continues to make money off of turning Sonic into a major mascot while selling weapons to the rebels. Eventually, Sonic discovers the truth and goes on a downward spiral as the revolution is quashed and his home is turned into another casino. Eggman kinda misses the fights they had and is now a semi-regretful philantropist but continues to do horrible shit like Bill Gates.

Naturally, this is all set up for Super Sonic attacking a federal building.

>>150070039
L Ron Hubbard for a while there.

>>150072902
>>150073821
I still want them to release a book or something that just lists all the other ideas they had for the show that are going unused now. Like all their notes and concepts.

Hey there anons! You did buy me back when I was still in print and only cost 50 dollars, right?
I would hate it for me to cost upwards of hundreds of dollars on ebay or something like that. Haha right? ...Right?

>>150074473
The writer's are Gen X'ers and probably don't give a shit about many Vidya outside of Pacman and Tetris. Sonic was always more of a Millenial phenomenon

So, was it ever revealed who caused the Movie Night Disaster?

BM/Venturion/Vendetta deny to have done it and I am inclined to believe it. As twisted as Jonas was, I don't think he would cause his own death and he seemed to genuinely believe Vendetta caused it.

But if it wasn't Vendetta, then who? And why? And Was Jonas really believing Blue Morpho was enough of a friend for not wanting revenge on him, despite all the blackmail and dirty works he forced him to do?

>>150075449
YES! FINE!
GIve me a fucking cigar!

>>150075452
No, but I wouldn't be surprised if another of Rusty's toys were involved. Jonas and Vendata struggle, a plastic cowboy is jostled from some forgotten crevice and they slip onto the controls for the bay doors, triggering Movie Night.

Another option is THE PHANTOM SPACE MAN! Maybe some unrelated paranormal shit just...happened

>>150075452
Budd Manstrong played Jonas's sex tape and had a freak out, jettisoning the crew by accident and blocking out the memory.

Am I the only one who do'nt consider the show is finished?

For me Venture Bros is like Ippo. We get a season, sometimes a features length movie on top of that, we wait a few years and we get new episodes again.

It has been like this for a long time and I have the feeling is that all we need is Cartoon Network ordering a new season to get a new one, as it has always been the case.

>>150075650
>Am I the only one who do'nt consider the show is finished?
No.

>>150075452
Personally I always suspected the OSI. It would create this neat loop of deception between the Guild/Sphinx/OSI.

>>150075738
If that's the case, Sphynx really got the shitty end of the deal.

>>150072717
>If they get the jokes and references and nods then you know they're going to be one of the good ones
What if they're literally before my time?

>>150075060
Would the Chaotix and other characters make an appearance or would this be Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Sonic? I imagine that Tails would accept a job with Eggman to get clemency for some of the others and Big would blow up the Robotnik guide stones while looking for Froggy.

>>150075452
Phantom Space Man

>>150075566
Paranormal stuff seems like more of a storytelling copout since no one in the whole show has shown any ability to do a damn thing about it.

Orpheus was always useless when a supernatural enemy showed up.

>>150075060
I’ve always wanted to see other arches of the various villains in the series, so I wonder if the series Eggman parody could potentially run a business genetically engineering “perfect” arches for members of the Guild

>>150075897
I HATE PHANTOM SPACEMAN!

>>150075326
Being a newer Venture Bros fan is pain...

>>150075452
Brock
Jonas was there and directly accused him
Brock thinks he joined OSI after that because his memory was altered

>>150076787
Didn't he join the army and the OSI AFTER Jonas died?

Before that, he was in the same uni as Rusty.

>>150076796
Brock thinks he did

the simplest explanation is that Brock was already working for OSI, already Rusty's bodyguard, and pretending to be a student while living in Rusty's dorm; he kills Tommy accidentally while participating in the football team (as part of his cover, and also because he's bored and why not), he beats up Rusty and his friends as a result, gets called up to Gargantua-1 to explain himself to Jonas Sr, something something Movie Night, Jonas' frozen corpse blames Brock, Brock is returned to Earth and goes in the memory wiping machine because he's an asset, next thing he knows he's starting OSI in the Pyramid Wars (he thinks he joined up for those - any prior association he had with OSI is either wiped by a better-than-SPHINX (SPHINX!) memory machine that OSI has, or he confabulates away so that he only remembers being in college for normal reasons)

>>150075897
>>150075987
So did everyone else visualize this thing, or just me?

>>150077320
>he beats up Rusty and his friends as a result, gets called up to Gargantua-1 to explain himself to Jonas Sr, something something Movie Nigh
The news that Jonas had died happened before Brock left:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR6hjmOUqOc

We still don't even actually know why the monarch hate Rusty Venture.

>>150077382
the way he remembers it

>>150077753
It's not really set as a memory but as an actual flashback, though.

>>150077480
Sibling rivalry exacerbated by increased aggression due to Baboon DNA.

>>150074473
I think Pete would just try to recreate Sonic.
>Pete, could you turn down Tarkus for like five seco-WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?
>What, it's Sonic the Hedgehog! Beloved icon!
>That is an ABOMINATION! It looks like you glued blueberries to a naked mole rat.
>Billy, the big bucks is in LICENSING! Sega is gonna love this.
>Sega is gonna give us a restraining order if we're lucky!

>>150072869
I would like to see actual JQ just so they have to do something new instead of leaning VB material

>>150077320
Why wouldn't Hunter tell him when he went Sphinx? And OSI memory wipes wear off pretty easily as we saw with Billy.

>>150077890
There is something specific the Monarch hate Rusty for, though.

>>150071751
For some reason, noticing he has a pupil ruined his character design for me.

>>150075813
Then do research. I went on a deep dive of andy warhol and serial killers as a result of this show. Also i think of tool academy when i hear a flock of seagulls.

was Dr. Quymn a Venture sister?

>>150075326
This is probably the only time in my life i got something before it became stupid expensive and it's one of my most prized possessions.

>>150078045
Probably, but unconfirmed

>>150070039
Originally Dr. Z, retconned to be Force Majeure

>>150069890 (OP)
Venture Bros. is one of the few cartoons that improved when they came up with character arcs and “lore,” but at the same time, people try to make lore that was retrofitted into the series into something that was always there, when the series has blatant retcons. Billie, our POV character, is baffled by the series of retcons within the universe. Which is a cheeky reminder that the lore was never planned, just bits and pieces. But even later, when the lore was established, they continue to retrofit things. The new antagonist in the baboon movie, no one tells me she's not a retcon.

>>150078394
>Billie, our POV character, is baffled by the series of retcons within the universe
They had Billy's backstory set quite early in the show actually. this was from Season 2:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/scSO1xRMTpA

>>150077379
I can still hear the laugh.

>>150078394
>>150078541
An other interresting point is that when the Monarch speculate that the guild killed Jonas, it's Vendetta who switched the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y01KSFgsl5A

>>150078541
I know, but Billie's role is to point out the logic of the universe. It's even in his name, quizboy. I really like the lore and continuity, but they're always changing their minds about stuff.

Ever find that special someone you just loathe and hate? Every Monarch needs a Rusty

So what was SPHINX doing before the Pyramid Wars? Did they even menace Jonas or were they more of a rouge army that people just had to deal with as they stumbled across their plans?
And we know COBRA was retconned into SPHINX, but it's still weird they had an active cell taken out by Red before he died.

>>150078574
Movie Night happened because of Rusty. They pointed out that it was just an accident and, given the crappy technology they had, they didn't have a failsafe for that kind of thing. Almost 10 years later, Vendatta becomes relevant to the plot. And since his name is Vendatta = Revenge, it was kind of easy to retrofit him into the plot. Rusty's father being a Green Beetle parody, ties with the henchman and hero, joke they were going for. Venture Bros thing is that they will sacrifice logic for a joke.

>>150078628
>So what was SPHINX doing before the Pyramid Wars?
You usual international terrorist group organisation stuff: Building weather control machines, launching satellites that shut down electricity, cloning an army of wall-phasing dinosaurs, making all the currencies self-combust, creating a fake-family for shore-leave within a village full of synthoids to give him emotional trauma when he see his fake wife and daughter melt in a fire...

Of course, the moment, they were deemed responsible for the massacre of Gargantuan 1, the gloves went off for the OSI and it devolved into a deadly war.

Fun fact: in the 80's GI-Joe cartoon, when duke believe that Cobra has actually killed(!) one of their own, they go all "shit is serious, now, we are no longer Mr. nice guys" and once it turns out that one is still alive, it's back to regular business.

>>150078653
>Movie Night happened because of Rusty.
Uh?

Also, I think you confused the names of Rusty and Malcolm.

>>150077320
Jonas more directly accuses Morpho. Also Rusty's memory of Brock leaving college, being on Earth and not in space, the day Jonas died.

>>150077950
Why would Hunter want him to know? Why would Hunter even know?

>>150077810
ehhh all you really see is that when Doc gets out of the hospital Brock is leaving the dorm, the actual timing of Movie Night between Brock putting Rusty in hospital and then is up in the air

plenty of time for Brock to have done it

>>150079463
>plenty of time for Brock to have done it
He hasn't even joined the OSI at this point.

>>150075813
Bowie started playing well before a lot of us were born, and while he was doing it a lot of people were paying attention to some other stuff. It's always about wanting to know about certain stuff that vibes with you, not when you were born.

>>150069890 (OP)
Gotta say, his wife's pretty hot
Would you believed he's actually OLDER than Dr. Z

>>150074473
It would be one of the rare moments where the super scientist is the evil one and the costumed guy is the good one.

>Robotnik would be some Russian scientist working a lumber/construction company in the Amazon. With tree cutting robots etc.
>Sonic is a weird guy that was accidentally half mutated with a blue Pangolin and rides on a skateboard. He hangs out with furries in fursuits at a Brazilian beach resort when not fighting his nemesis.


>Dr Light is based on Edgar Froese, and would be one of the world's leading super scientists researching robotics. But he is a lonely weirdo that built a robot wife and two robot kids.
>Dr Wiley is based on Johannes Schmoelling, is his former lab assistant that was weirded out by Light's off 1960s sitcom robot family. Turned to evil and wanted to take over the world, but he is not as good at robotics so he hires bit actors and homeless people, and dresses them up as evil robots for his schemes.

>>150079513
not that he remembers

>>150075452
The show really wants to point to Vendatta doing it.

The problem is that the writers keep changing their minds about things, including mysteries they resolved in previous seasons. They will come back with a Just Kidding! and say the previous reveal was just a lie and keep it up again.

The best explanation that fits the story is that Red Death's gang mostly fucked up and accidentally killed everyone. Movie Night being a colossal fuckup fits things better than any other explanation. Vendatta didn't consciously pull the bay door level, he tripped on something and slammed his head into it and it knocked him out for a while. when he woke up everyone was dead.

>>150079855
>The show really wants to point to Vendatta doing it.
Vendetta outright deny it and they make him sound quite sincere.

>>150078628
Building weather dominators, kidnapping scientists, the usual cobra shit.

>>150075580
This is the most believable hypothesis.

>>150078777
You would think that would have left room for a similar organization to arise, but maybe the Guild squashed any attempts in order maintain its supremacy in the villain market. It feels like the Guild does a lot of the OSI's job for them if that's the case.

>>150074289
>mfw Rusty pretending to change Billy's diaper in the men's restroom

>>150075060
Thats pretty good, how would Shadow fit into all of this?

>>150075452
Knowing the shows usual writing it would be just some completely random circumstance perpetrated by someone doing something seemingly inconsequential resulting in tons of people loosing their lives for no real reason.

>>150075650
>Am I the only one who do'nt consider the show is finished?
The movie felt like a really long episode instead of an actual end.

>Hollywood superhero boom kicks off
>WB sees they have an existing show about heroes and villains, start writing them blank checks and giving them all the time they need to produce episodes
>H&P add everything they wanted to the show
>WB fumbles the ball again and again with their big budget superhero movies, costing themselves millions
>forced to start downsizing projects that aren't immediately profitable
>H&P forced to wrap up what would have needed at least a full season in a fraction of the screentime and then get out

For what it's worth, were you satisfied with the ending?

>>150080380
>For what it's worth, were you satisfied with the ending?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqkIWkdIcuk

>>150080380
Kinda, its WAY better than ATaGT, but it still has all the issues they've always struggled with in balancing a cast that big.

>>150080380
It was ok. I didn't like that they wasted precious time with a go nowhere "dean is an idiot" plotline that wouldn't have been that funny even as a B-plot in a single episode. I also hate Ben the exposition machine.

>>150080380
I wish they did something else at this point
On one hand the charm of VB is how they balance a dozen plates and even when they fall and break two new ones appeared on that spot. But since the NY move it was like every season was a reset with new main issues and ideas that tangentially related to the original show. Even the movie had the same structure of starting with something completely new and focusing on that while generally completing some previous ideas.
Just let them make a new thing. I know they put so much of themsevels on this show that they can't make something that won't feel related, they run out of voices to do, but you can repeat items in a new story with a different tone. Clint Eastwood didn't give up on westerns, he kept doing then and then started doing a western star in different settings. Just do VB but different.

>>150080380
It's bittersweet, I give it a solid 8, but it does end on a good note and showcases the core messages and themes of show.
Everyone is a screw-up with some baggage, but you have to try and be better than the last generation that ruined things.

>>150080474
I like expositions.

>>150080579
I'd rather they be delivered by an actual character.

>>150080474
Ben is a rare case of unfitting use of JK Simmons

>>150080615
Someone gotta be the character who know the family's secrets.

>>150080380
It was better than nothing but i still want a final season that completely renders the movie non-canon and picks up at the end of s8 but i guess the cat's out of the bag on the boys' mom and the baboon heart.

>>150079676
I’m not sure what real world vigilante he would be based on but

>NotMario is a monster the guild created
>he used to be a regular plumber who was in love with a Super Scientist based on Princess Peach
>Bowser was Peach’s guild sanctioned Arch
>every time she was kidnapped he would take some of the drugs she invented in order to gain temporary superpowers and rescue her
>the OSI agents never helped and often got in his way
>eventually Bowser crossed the line and Mario killed him.
>now “the Plumber” is a feared vigilante that the Guild doesn’t know how to kill. A drug addicted sociopath who hunts guild villains for sport

Who was Scarebear?

>>150081649
To defeat him, you need to understand parallel universes.

>>150082133
Unironically though a venture bros Mario would probably be a Samson/Shore Leave tier threat, and then at one point during the episode we flash into his mind where we see that he’s constantly drugged and thinks the henchmen he’s killing are turtle monsters in a fantasy world in his drugged mind Rusty is Princess Rosey

>>150081649
>Fungaland is a tiny 3 mile wide kingdom in south Brooklyn ruled by princess Francesca Scalamari
>Her cousin Louie Vitoni is a plumber that also functions as the court bodyguard. He was an ex OSI agent who is undercover as a small time neighborhood plumber/pizza guy
>The assigned arch is Clawhauser the Sewer Gator king who dressed up all his minions in gator costumes

>>150083171
>He used to arch King Gorilla before his death

>>150075375
If they can drop Degrassi references, they know about fucking Sonic the Hedgehog.

>>150081731
Jared, or Jared's clone

>>150081731
It's funnier not knowing and i hate that he even appeared in the scene with hank because his initial appearance was the funniest he could ever be

>>150075897
>>150075987
>>150077379
>>150078560

>>150069890 (OP)
he bald

>>150075897
>>150075987
Don't make me nostalgic for old memes.

>>150079580
Why didnt they use super science to gives her a funcional womb? Are they stupid?

>>150075897
>Phantom Space Man

Red Death already admitted that he was in the hangar when the doors opened. It's why he, Vendata and Hate-bit were the only survivors.

>>150080380
There's still some loose ends. Which is why we need season 8 to proper conclude the show.

>>150079786
>not that he remembers
But none of those flashbacks were from his point of view. So your asinine theory holds no water.

>>150071768
That's more holding onto a grudge than planning.
Hell he's first act to kill Rusty was to blow up the college Chem labs.
His second attempt was jaut driving his car into the compound

>>150080008
My take on Shadow

>Shadow doesn't just look like Sonic, he's literally a clone of Sonic that was spliced with alien DNA to create a cure for AIDS
>similar to Sonic, Eggman more or less ditched him once he got what he wanted

Despite this, Shadow's surprisingly normal and has an ordinary life. The worst he has to deal with is gay/bisexual men making him into a savior of the LGBT community and a queer icon.

>>150075817
The rest of the cast would make brief appearances.

>The Chaotix solve bizarre nonsense schemes (they'll find your missing crypto)
>Knuckles is the equivalent of John Redcorn but as an echidna. Very lonely and constantly bringing up how his people have suffered.
>exactly as you said, Tails got clemency and mostly keeps to himself and his contracts with Lockheed Martin
>Rouge mostly hangs out with Shadow and will occasionally rope him into morally ambiguous plots that Shadow interprets as LARPing. She really regrets sleeping with Eggman.
>Amy turned into a self-help guru trying to expose Sonic for "grooming her"
>Silver is a time traveler but it's a dark comedy take on Trunks/John Connor where he's fucking stuck in the past and is homeless or stuck in an asylum
>Mighty and Ray died from drug ODs

>>150075938
Eggman runs a side hustle where he creates arches for villains where it's one big Blade Runner reference. The heroes have short lifespans and will sometimes go rogue to live their own lives. Eggman contracts out knockoff Blade Runners to hunt them down and take them out, or will send out Metal/Mecha Sonics to do the job himself.

>>150088870
I could see this leading to a very good episode where NotTails (Paws the fox?) acts as a foil to Dean and Rusty. He’s a sidekick who broke away from his hero and made it big at the cost of his morality

>>150074850
I like it.

>>150074850
Rusty better get spindashed.

>>150090101
>Get this blue rat off of me!
>Cool! He's spindashing you, Pops!
>This isn't cool, Hank! He's humping me!

Didn't somebody do a Venture Bros take on DBZ?

>>150090511
Yeah. Kid Monkey. He had a career ending injury that destroyed his martiak arts career and abuses his son. It’s unclear if he can actually go Super Saiyan
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/147688529/#q147688529

>>150090544
Thanks.

>>150088870
>The Chaotix solve bizarre nonsense schemes (they'll find your missing crypto)
So they’re like Billy and White?

>>150088785
But what about all the stuff with Maria?

>>150090750
You just know the OSI took her body and resurrected her as a cyborg assassin

BUMPING FOR NECROMANCER NOSTALGIAAAAAAAAA!!!

LIAR LIAR PANTS AFLAAAAME!!!

>>150074437
Candy Darling?

>>150075326
It got stolen by someone while I was moving into my new apartment.
I could kill myself about it I guess.

>>150090861
She looks more like Pizzaz to me.

>>150080434
>ATaGT
what

This threads getting too autistic even for me

>>150090878
SHE-HEmoth

>>150090964
All this and Gargantua Two.
The special that took place between seasons 5 and 6.

>>150073131
Any examples of those offhand?

The only one I can think of is Treaty of Tolerance Summit II.

>>150090982
Oh come on. Join in the fun have a cigar

>>150079440
Jonas literally points at Brock and says "you killed us"

>>150090771
It would be funnier if she didn’t actually die and was just replaced with a double and brainwashed into thinking it was all a dream. She would go onto write a successful series of children’s books about her and her little hedgehog friend on space station before Shadow shows up and she has a mental breakdown.

>>150092015
Not really.

>>150075326
I bought it right after the last season aired before the cancellation.

>>150077379
Isn't that just red death in the space suit?

>>150092077
It would be genuinely hilarious for the Venture Bros Shadow parody to also be a parody of Winnie the Pooh, though realistically the book Shadow would be more similar to Tigger

>>150092077
>>150092116
It should be heavily implied that the Maria/Christopher Robin character and Robotnik are both illegitimate children of Jonas who was responsible for creating Shadow

>>150069890 (OP)
Sigh. Guess it's time for a full rewatch again.

>>150092135
Maybe have Gerald be an illegitimate child of Jonas’ father and them being half brothers with a one sided grudge (Jonas hates Gerald for making a better space station)

>>150092146
I’ve always theorized that Force Majore could’ve been Jonas’s brother so why not him.
It would tie in Not!Shadow to the Guild, and having Maria and Eggman resembling Debra would just add to the nonsense of everyone in the Ventureverse somehow being related

And zis is my magic murder bag

>>150092089
the actual line in this image >>150076787

that's Jonas's hand and Jonas's voice, he knows who Rusty is, he would know who Brock is

Brock did Movie Night

>>150092527
That was him trying to figure out the smart house Jonas Jr had designed. It doesn't mean anything and still make no sense with the timeline.

Brock was literally on earth when the event happened. it can't be him.

I'm really disappointed Jonas's return lasted like, an episode.

>>150096082
Or the fallout of Monarch finding out about Vendata

comic book story continuation when?

>>150097015
Or an SI fanfic where somebody takes over the body of Rusty and tries to claw their way out of the pit of failure.

>>150097015
>>150097049
Be the change you want to see.

>>150080380
>were you satisfied with the ending?

>>150071686
I kind of like your theory, because it's very on-brand for how Doc and Jackson write. The problem is that it's out of character for the Monarch. If the Monarch had known that it was 21 who killed his cat, he would have just killed 21. Maybe tortured him a bit first, but even that seems too ceremonial for him, so it would likely just be a dart to the neck and a body in a ravine. Then he would have focused that anger towards Dr. Venture as he always does. And probably cried into his wife's bosom depending on when in the timeline it happened

>>150075326
It was $26 on Amazon when I bought it. It's my favorite book.
>>150096082
>>150096228
Same. I thought it was going to be the premise of the whole season.

>>150097115
i'm not a good writer

>>150097336
You never will be without practise.

>>150080380
I would say there is something in that you could have had it where the show kept going on, but you never really get a bookmark ending of any sort, as things just get kicked down to the next season without answer and there becomes so many things to juggle it becomes too unresolvable. One one hand you have them doing seasons at such a slow rate as to not overdo it, but there is then the obvious complaints of such time between seasons, how all momentum gets lost, and you still not really working towards the answers or developments. As the show went on I think it also become some what aimless, despite how arcs both planned or retroactively fused became more of a thing. I can imagine a timeline where the show went on longer where it sort of lost something even if never jumping the shark. Perhaps the biggest thing is the show is just rooted in a different era (2003 was the pilot), that by S6 (2016) had passed and certainly by the 2020s had gone.

>>150071768
We already know why the Monarch hates Dr. Venture, it’s a throwaway line, but Dr. Venture says that he has eyebrows out to here and writes poems about butterflies.
Dr. venture made fun of Monarch’s poetry and earned an enemy for life because of it. It’s not some dramatic backstabbing or huge thing, Dr. Venture’s just a hatable guy that touched on something Monarch felt very sensitive about and of course Dr. Venture would never apologize for it.

>>150097760
>Dr. venture made fun of Monarch’s poetry and earned an enemy for life because of it.
That's still speculation, though.

>>150069890 (OP)
What would your villain gimmick be, /co/?

>>150097967
>It’s me! Port Man Toe
>nautical themed villain with a foot fetish