Thread 150461662

Lately a bunch of Youtubers who were probably kids when Zootopia came out have been discovering the lost version of the movie, which I knew about for years because I had been following the movie since it was originally announced but was stuck in production hell, with the information about it being very cryptic. What i find strange is that many of these youtubers seem to think that the unfinished version of the movie was some kind of lost masterpiece that we were robbed of seeing due to the various vague clunky mechanics of making an animated movie.

Every time I see one of these videos I feel the need to put the zoomers in their place. The reason that earlier, more dystopian draft didn't make it into theaters is not because of executive meddling or any other such nonsense, and more importantly, it was at serious risk of becoming vaporware while it was on that track. That version of the movie was basically "family-friendly" misery porn, and as it turns out, Disney's animators do not work their best when they have to make something that depressing. Morale among the animators was extremely low which is why they made 3 movies worth of concept art and assets just for Nick's funhouse, even though that sequence was only going to be a few minutes of the movie. They couldn't even settle on an ending because they made Zootopia such a hopeless shithole that the only logical end was for Nick and Judy to leave it.

"If they made it" is an extreme hypothetical. Ultimately it took a second, more experienced director being added and going back to the drawing board for a more optimistic fanciful story to get the movie finished. Did the original version have a ton of potential? Definitely, but a movie that gets finished will always be better than the one that was burning out before the story could even be finished. The original idea would be better suited to a low budget indie project aimed at adults. It certainly wouldn't have been the surprise billion dollar hit of 2016 though.

>Lately a bunch of Youtubers-
Off on your way to page 10, queer

>>150461662 (OP)
Not only was it depressing for the animators to make, test audiences responded very poorly to it. They believed that a society that broken simply wasn't worth saving and could not find any sympathy for the people who lived in it.

>>150461794
People are such pussies jfc

>>150461833
No, they were being honest. The movie was supposed to be bleak and dystopian but the concept they had was so bleak and so bitter that it was not clicking with the demographic that animated films need to click with. The animators themselves didn't enjoy that iteration of the movie, so how was the audience supposed to?

>>150461662 (OP)
I'd never looked into Zootopia's original plot before (I just knew it involved shock collars) and yeah, relative to the movie we got that's very bleak and I'm not surprised it didn't work out, though I kind of like the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzH9GJgoHY

>>150461662 (OP)
Shock collars are hot so I get it.

>that scene where mom and her child moves away from the tiger on the bus after judy accidentally started a race war

I don't think Zootopia could be made today

>>150461662 (OP)
Those are their OPINIONS, the worthless thing in the world. They will stand by them, because it's the only thing that really belong to them. But they have no real value. Let them have them, don't go further though.

>misery porn

I see this term quite alot lately, you're not frequenting /v/ threads about furry kids in a tank maybe?

It would have been cool and experimental but doesn't really fit both a Disney flick and also a family-friendly movie that's supposed to be fun for kids. The version we got had all of the fun multiple species trying to live together furry slice of life fantasy stuff which was the projects best aspects anyway. Well that and the conspiracy theorist Badger waifu created wholesale by /trash/

>Lately a bunch of Youtubers
don't care
fuck off

>>150461662 (OP)
Dunno if it was a master piece but it was no Disney story. It looked Orwellian and dystopian. Its like Zootopia City itself was the enemy and all Nick and Judy could do was escape from it.

>>150461662 (OP)
It can be hard for a lot of people who don’t actually work in creative spaces to understand that sometimes it is necessary to axe good or interesting ideas in the interest of making a full overall story that works.

The shock collars really are a fun concept to think about. It just was a darling that wasn’t worth keeping when it was bringing down the whole mood. But these zoomers probably can’t see that big picture, they can only see that individual cool idea and be disappointed they didn’t get it. It’s easy to just assume the film makers “coulda found a way to make it work.” But most likely in a hypothetical alternate world where we did get that movie, those same people wouldn’t have been satisfied with it. And they’d still be making videos about all kinds of dumb fixes they’d propose to improve it, but they’d never realize that the real answer was to sacrifice the neat little shock collar idea and rebuild from there.

>>150464197
okay boomer

>>150465072
my favorite was the scene where pixar and other saw the test screening

>>150461662 (OP)
Lost masterpiece? Zootopia was shit. The only reason it made so much money is becuse they used a lot of sex appeal, even on the children. They also took advantage of the fact that people will watch anything nowadays, that's why studios no longer do any work, they just randomly recycle old stuff or get an a.i to generate it for them.

>>150461886
The audience is always idiotic