Thread 150922731

I've noticed that many people in drawing or animation have a big need of being recognized and I feel they care more about being called "an artist" than to do the work and shut up, unlike other professions

Yeah, that's how they get work. Have you ever had any experience trying to work in a creative medium?

>>150922731 (OP)
artists rely on recognition in order to secure future work

>>150922731 (OP)
Getting industry work is rare and gets moreso with each passing year
I'd be happy too

>>150922731 (OP)
You need exposure, a portfolio and a resume to get jobs. You kinda have to be an attention whore to get jobs or at least network

>>150922739
This is how you line up your next gig, retard.

>>150922731 (OP)
>"what do you mean that people want to be credited for their contribution"

>>150922731 (OP)
Why do so many anons have such a disdain for working artists?

>>150922769
Did you mean to reply to OP?

>>150922775
Jealousy.

>>150922775
They can't draw.

>>150922775
being an artist is leftist-coded.

>>150922775
Because I failed at becoming an industry animator and showrunner

>>150922731 (OP)
This is how you line up your next gig, retard.

>>150922778
Yes. Sorry.

>>150922791
>leftist-coded
The fuck are you talking about anon?

>>150922775
Mostly jealousy. Anons either wish they were artists or are under the misguided impression that being a professional artist means getting paid piles of cash to have a hobby.

>>150922801
Anon’s brain has been poisoned by culture war bullshit. There’s nothing left in their lexicon besides buzzwords and slurs.

>>150922791
This

>>150922775
Crabs in a bucket. They see other people living their dreams, making money and connections so they mock them to feel better about themselves

>>150922775
Social media. It allows people to directly talk and interact with artists without a pr barrier. This unfortunately means most people get to find out the average artist's skull is hollow unless they're talking about art.

>>150922775
Because they are fucking retards. They are usually stupid leftists that know nothing about economics, politics or how the world works yet they want to creep in everywhere and root for legislation that fucks everybody in the ass. They get into drawing because they have an ego problem and want to be praised more than just for the love of it.

Most of them aren't even good at their job, they just do calarts crap and I'm glad AI is replacing them.

>>150922801
all cartoonists are from California

>>150922791
I guess Hitler was a leftist libtard

>>150922731 (OP)
There is shit loads of competition in the "draw for money" business. You have to stick your neck out and do what you can to draw attention to your work if you want a gig. It's gay, but a man's got to eat.

>>150922801
LA air makes you woke

>>150922731 (OP)
>oh no! credits!
OP is a literal fag.

>>150922731 (OP)
better than literally begging in social media for work

>>150922900
no, because hitler was a bad artist. his chuddiness shone through.

>>150922801
This guy is a good example of what it means to consider artists "leftist coded"
>>150922892

>>150922775
is the OP disdain? Could his question just be curiosity? Or shitposting to get a reply out of you?

Perhaps the fact artist are starting to care what random nobodies think is a sign of how much their profession is coming to a close.

>>150922949
you don't call someone a narcissist if you don't have distain for them.

>>150922791
>>150922892
>>150922894
>>150922923
>>150922949
So what you ESL thirdie spammers are saying is art really enriches and enhances society, huh?
>is the OP disdain
lol, lmao even

>>150922960
You are a retard and your bait post is shit, but yeah, have a (you)

>>150922967
>n-n-no u!
So this is the power of the second army of the world, lol

>>150922957
You assume the person even has a good grasp of what the word even means. Most people just use it interchangeably with "selfish" which is basically what the OP is doing.

>>150922957
Yes, I do have disdain for many ((((artists)))) mainly because of this >>150922892

I've dealt with ((((artists)))) multiple times in my life and they are your typical liberal faggot, they deserve no respect.

>>150922957
Anon, you can call a close friend a faggot and mean nothing from it

>>150922972
you don't call someone selfish if you don't have distain for them

>>150922949
>OP gets outed as a shitposter for (You)s
>retarded post spam follows and won't stop

I have no idea what your goal was OP but you fucked up bad....

>>150922977
OP is not close friends with "artists" as a collective. Is this site just full of autists who can't understand basic communication and context?

>>150922973
>I've dealt with ((((artists)))) multiple times in my life

I'm genuinely curious what those interactions would've been. Feels like you're not telling the whole story here.

>>150922960
Why do we need art? Warfare is all we need for our entertainment.

>>150922731 (OP)
If you'd ever accomplished anything in life, you'd want recognition too

>>150922949
> artist are starting to care what random nobodies think
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>150922979
see >>150922977 you can call someone a lot of things and mean nothing by it.
Do you have any real friends? Have you never experienced any level of human interaction outside of your mom?

>>150922987
Modern warfare is boring.

>>150922983
>OP is not close friends with "artists" as a collective
Correct, thus he could make even bigger and more outlandish claims that he holds nothing for.

>Is this site just full of autists who can't understand basic communication and context?
Clearly you can't as you are taking words on a screen that personally. You really can't see OP just saying shit to get a thread active? You think every post here is a 1 for 1 what adults think? Fucksakes you don't even know if OP is some underage kid just saying stupid shit because he likes the replies.

>>150922892
>be animator
>work on the east coast
>most animators just take what they can get and are pretty normal politically, way more edgy right wingers than you'd think

I dunno man I think you don't know what you're talking about.

>>150923005
Not for the oil barons.

>>150922731 (OP)
I don't like how that thing looks. evil...

>>150923011
>Fucksakes you don't even know if OP is some underage kid just saying stupid shit because he likes the replies.

That's how you know 4chan, and really the the social media of the internet, has changed. Back in 2005, OPs question would have turned into jokes, and artists doing stupid shit for laughs at the OPs expense. Now? It's all got to be this super serious argument with people wanting to force politics into it.

>>150923028
You've gone full retard/circle and are now criticizing your original point, >>150922987, "Anon."

>>150922992
>>150923011
You're acting incredibly disingenuous if you look at an OP calling all artists "narcissistic" and telling them to "just shut up and work" and can't tell it's disdainful. No, that isn't how friends banter with each other. That's just OP criticising his perceived character of artists. You're going beyond playing devil's advocate and falling into straight retardation.
>Clearly you can't as you are taking words on a screen that personally.
Interpreting a post straightforward isn't taking it "personally" but your weird obsession with defending OP as not disdainful might be
>You really can't see OP just saying shit to get a thread active
That doesn't change the fact it's disdainful, if anything that is further reasoning. Disdainful posts are an easy way to get activity.

>>150923092
>You're acting incredibly disingenuous
and OP isn't?
you're OP aren't you?

>>150923079
Oh wow, it's almost like I was being bitter and not serious because 4chan is driving me mad but I have nowhere else to go!

>>150922731 (OP)
Anon wait till you hear about people with doctorates and teachers.

>>150922892
This

>>150923011
It's friendly banter when OP talks shit, but anon talking shit back need to chill because OP might be an underageb&. Interesting logic.

>>150922775
I can't take Speedosausage seriously after watching his porn. It's not that he did porn but its just so soulless and stiff which sucks for porn but is great for comedy. Just feels weird and it makes me not respect him.

>>150922903
Anon isn't reacting well to the LA air

>>150923117
rightoids hate educated people too: everyone should be a reactionary simpleton, driven by emotional responses against "the browns", "the gays" or whatever, and thus easier to misdirect and control

>>150922731 (OP)
>I've noticed that many people in drawing or animation have a big need of being recognized
whats narcissistic about it?
what event is OP even talking about?

>>150922775

they annoy me

>>150923229
then who do you expect to draw your moving picture shows if not artists?

>>150923170
It's been the default election tourist response, ever since gaymer gate proved how easy it was to weaponize conservatards and incels: All objections to astroturf claims are 'too political,' yet somehow 'both sides the same'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71CyRYy7y3g, which goes hand in hand with the past decade of 4chins grievance/apathy spam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOY4Ka-GBus&t=47s

>>150923223
>not pictured: the plane heading straight towards a mountain top

>>150922775
Jealousy, mostly.

>>150923309
Neither OP, the anon I responded to, or I brought up politics. You are confusing.

>>150922793
you failed so far

>>150922918
Wrong you troon

>>150922987
Shut up fat fuck

>>150922739
>>150922740
>>150922758
>>150922807
>>150922829
Instead of sucking industry dick despite its ongoing colossal failures you can develop alternate opportunities for an artist.

That is of course unless you can’t make it with your merit, but only connections. Seems like going down with the industry ship is karma in that case.

>>150923309
>gaymer gate
Cope cocksucker

>>150923422
There needs to be a market for it if you want to just do art and still eat. Unfortunately what's out there is mostly industry work, or extreme fetish furry commissions. People won't just give you money for being neat.

>>150923237

less annoying artists

>>150923476
Artists waste tons of opportunity to develop alternate revenue sources on things like union style bullshit and gloating about getting at least 1 industry job on places like /co/. Childish behavior.

>>150923476
One way of fixing it would be to not constantly devalue purchase power, stop giving gibs and stop usury.

But you retards vote for importing millions of niggers and waste money and waste money on useless crap so there is no more money for the important stuff.

>>150922731 (OP)
I often find the people that complain about other people doing something or the people who are jealous of them. I found this out recently when I started going to the gym here I am an old fat ass I'm just trying to lose some weight because I'm starting to have back problems and I had coworkers going well why do you go to the gym you don't even look that bad. That's what a lot of these people that complain about of what other people are doing are just pure jealous losers,.. I started seeing a lot of this artists are evil leftists bastards come around here because AI shills and failures at life. You just meet people in this world don't want to hate on others because of their own lack of self-discipline. The only people who've ever made fun of me going to the gym or fat asses never people in shape even people don't really change it's just always the fat ass, I can pretty much guesstimate with artists the same way a lot of people want to learn how to draw or write or code or do something but for some reason they're too lazy it's easier to just complain about those people doing something. I got the same crap because I started saving money as well current I saved a little money. cuz I put away a few grand I got one guy told me Rich and why are you saving money you should go out and buy a new car I'm like my you crap car gets me from point a to point b why would I care but you know a lot of people make poor life decisions and get mad at people trying to make good life decisions