Thread 150949141

KINDNESS IS THE NEW PUNK ROCK!

>>150949141 (OP)
I still don’t know what the fuck this mean

>>150949152
In an indifferent world, caring is an act of rebellion

>>150949152
Its a vapid statement thats meant to make you think its deeper than it actually is.

CAUSE I'M A PUNK FLOPPER YES I AM

>>150949152
Punk rock is about being anti main stream, against the norms and status quo. Now a days people commonly treat each other like trash and to show kindness it a break from what is the established norm.

>>150949168
>flop
i dont think you know what that word means

>>150949141 (OP)
Kindness was always punk rock.

>>150949152
You know the psychos who've been screaming they're the good guys as they stab you and unravel society for social media brownie points over the past 15 or so years?

>>150949201
Didn't break even theatrically
Made 55 million less than the previous Superman movie that was considered disappointing

>>150949218
>Didn't break even theatrically
it made 600M, more than double its budget

>Made 55 million less than the previous Superman movie that was considered disappointing
WB execs are internally quite pleased with it, since it proved that superman can still sell despite the deck being stacked against it so heavily
and they have greenlit a sequel and a spin-off

as far as the people who made the damn thing are concerned, it did fine

>>150949141 (OP)
>>150949152
>>150949161
It's holding that "punk" is just contrarian, which is nonsense; that means in a caring world, being indifferent is punk. It was an annoying conversational character moment meant to help us see Superman as more human, a cringe boyscout who enjoys doing what's right even when the government and billionaires tell him to stop. But billionaires tell you to celebrate pride month so being anti-gay is punk?

>>150949165
This, but to be charitable, everyone on set knew this and it's meant more of a clumsy conversation meant to better define the characters.

>>150949298
>But billionaires tell you to celebrate pride month so being anti-gay is punk?
it is still punk, since anti-gay is still the mainstream sentiment and one that billionaires actually endorse

>>150949309
Right, but it's just aesthetics, how I feel about what is mainstream. People were saying Christians were persecuted in America while Bush was in office.

>>150949141 (OP)
>proceeds to kill straw men of people Gunn politically disagree with in a comical manner

>>150949309
You're not a victim Faggot, you're a coddled piece of shit

>>150949141 (OP)
Are you still seething at a successful movie, Ranpanujesh?

>>150949141 (OP)
That's incredibly cringe, it's like saying that drinking water is cool.
Yeah man, maybe I'll give them a fucking prize for being able to dress themselves or eat solid food

>>150949298
Anti-lgbt/pro-pedo is the main position of the state and the church. So yes, pride/pro-lgbt is punk.

>>150949571
No it's not. It's literally legal to fire people for hating faggots. And all faggots are pedos because people only turn gay buy being molested and all molesters were molested

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/username/%206American6Metal6/

Quality poster.

>>150949721
That's interesting, but I don't see you refuting him.

>>150949686
Cope nigger. No one is more protected and faggy than christkikes. Go pray to your jewish zombie and ziocuck president.

>>150949568
>like saying that drinking water is cool.
>He said, on 4chan

>>150949729
>No one is more protected and faggy than christkikes
>when crosses are forbidden in classrooms but pride-flags are mandatory

>>150949726
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/gpaFIFRxQizfk-IeFPmOLQ/

Why do you hate punk music, poser?

>>150949814
He's right on that one too, but don't stop on my account, I love schizo crashouts.

The concept of kindness needs to be erased entirely, along with mercy, heroism, freedom, happiness, love, forgiveness, sanity, and everything else that is good.

>>150949729
You're a faggot and id kill you for being a weakling queer, you're not a rebel, I am. you're a faggot you get diversity hires, listen to gay music, and get coddling from the Jews you soft beta leftist shit breath who can't breed defect. In a righteous world you'd be executed in public. All faggots should bleed for the devil along with non caucasoid rodents

>>150949309
>anti-gay is still the mainstream sentiment and one that billionaires actually endorse
In Saudi Arabia, yes.

>>150949939
Yes. Torture the weak to death. Then torture everyone else to death too! LORD MOLOCH WILL HAVE BLOOD SACRIFICES! HAHAHAHA!

>>150949939
Can’t you just stay on /pol/?

>>150949218
There are already more reputable reports than shit you are pulling out of your ass because someone yelled it on YouTube that Superman (2025) was more profitable for Warner Brothers studio than MoS.

>>150949729
>>150949939
Stop talking to yourself.

>>150949806
>crosses are forbidden in classrooms
Nice fantasy, christkike. You faggots love competing in oppression olympics with libtards and kikes.

>>150949141 (OP)
Still didn't watch this movie. Heard it was ass

>>150950087
>shilling for supershit 2025

>>150949298
>>150949141 (OP)
Gunn can't differentiate Punk Rock From CM Punk
"Straightedge" is not punk rock, if anything it's more like Nu-Metal

>>150949152
It means people who only define themselves as being "good" (despite objective evidence to the contrary) want their limp-wristed, all-talk version of "good" to look "cool;" and we live in a culture where being an anarchic waste of breath is seen as more "cool" than the alternative, so that's what they relate to the most.

>>150950651
>"Straightedge" is not punk rock

>>150950251
Samefag

>>150949141 (OP)
Failure is the new success

>>150949201
I think it means failing to connect with a wide audience to the point where you gross less than the last Superman movie that came out 12 years ago

But I'm no movie scientist

>>150949234
>they have greenlit a sequel and a spin-off
You mean Gunn greenlit a sequel and spinoff

>>150949298
Nah but calling out the phoniness and hypocrisy of those corporations is punk rock, because at the end of the day those corporations probably exploit the third world, and rub elbows with the blood sucking elites. Being kind in a jaded and cynical world is also an act of rebellion, because those losers have given up and accept their circumstances. Of course most punks are also jaded and would just crash out in that circumstance. It takes a strong willed & optimistic person to be kind

>>150949141 (OP)
>CAUSE I GOT BEAT BY DEMON SLAYER YES I DID

>>150950781
when people say flop, they mean that the movie lost a ton of money
which is not what happened

>>150950801
gunn does not greenlight projects, he is a director
it is the studio that approves projects, and they have approved of a superman sequel and a supergirl spinoff already

>>150951094
>it is the studio that approves projects
And the current head of DC Studios is? Oh would you look at that

>>150951094
>they mean that the movie lost a ton of money
Isn't that a "bomb"? Flop used to mean "movie wasn't as successful as expected"

>>150951107
now you are just being silly, its WB who controls what gets made and when
if superman had been a flop, WB would have nuked the entire thing to make 200 more batman movies

>>150951118
>Flop used to mean "movie wasn't as successful as expected"
a bomb is an extreme example of a flop, like 25M on a 100M budget levels of failure
poor review optional but assumed
a flop just generally means losing money, but generally the two of them are interchangeable

superman was neither of those things, since it made a fair bit of money and proved that superman could still make money despite the damage the snyderverse had done to the brand
WB considers it a success, and they are the only ones who really know how much value it created for them

>>150951120
>its WB who controls what gets made and when
DC Studios has been a completely separate entity since it was formed. The only ones making the calls are Gunn and Safran. WB proper are run by Abdy and De Luca and they're more interested in things like Weapons and Minecraft. Now they WANT to be in charge of DC but Zaslov wants Safran in charge of all of WB... or at least he did until Superman bombed

I get that you desperately want to make Gunn not look like a pathetic hack using DC as a pump and dump to fill his pockets but the facts just don't go your way

>>150951133
>since it made a fair bit of money and proved that superman could still make money
Except it didn't. People are hoping the streaming and PVOD numbers will help it make money but theatrically it lost about $42 million

>>150951143
>or at least he did until Superman bombed
again, youre being silly
WB is quite happy with how superman did and is having more of them made

>>150949209
This. Every punk rock star is a self centred druggie piece of shit and that's even for a musician. And piece of shit can be used literally for many of their stage acts. And it's not even good music. Every punk rock song is three chords played out of tune whilst screaming too close the mic. It's the most talentless "give me attention" shit imaginable.

>>150951133
>they are the only ones who really know how much value it created for them
Anon, WB executives know nothing about value. I think they don't even care.

>>150951150
>Except it didn't
thats just an insane claim
james gunn has outright said that the movie made enough money to keep WB happy

>but theatrically it lost about $42 million
it made back several times its budget
anyone who says that it needed to make a specific number to break even theatrically is lying because the specific number needed to break even has never been made public

>>150951152
Right which is why they're currently accepting bids to buy the studio and batgirl all future DC projects. Because Superman did so well

>>150951159
>WB executives know nothing about value
but they would be the only people who would actually know if the superman movie made enough money or not
and they are happy enough with how it turned out

any claim to the contrary would be baseless speculation not based on anything

>>150951167
>Because Superman did so well
superman did do well, they have said so
which is why they are making more of them

if superman had been a flop, this thing would have ended right after it came out

>>150951165
>james gunn
Oh well off the director said his movie didn't flop then obviously his movie didn't flop.

Just like when The Rock said Black Adam wasn't a flop

>>150951165
>anyone who says that it needed to make a specific number to break even theatrically is lying because the specific number needed to break even has never been made public
Except it has. WB spent about $350 million on budget and marketing

>>150951172
>any claim to the contrary would be baseless speculation not based on anything
It's based on 15 years of bad choices and decisions made by Warner.

>>150951177
Unless they were say already in the middle of filming things like Supergirl, Clayface, and Peacemaker... which they were

>>150951178
>Oh well off the director said his movie didn't flop then obviously his movie didn't flop.
because he would be one of the only people who would actually know whats going on behind the scenes and would have the information necessary to make any claim based on reality

>WB spent about $350 million on budget and marketing
if you include marketing, that includes marketing for all the superman tumblers and superman popcorn buckets
so you would then have to adjust the revenue to include all the profits generated from those things
which is why marketing + budget hasnt been accurate for blockbuster movies since the 80s

>>150951198
its almost like superman did quite well

>>150951201
It's not even close to like Superman did well but I get as a DC and Gunn fan you're dumb as shit.

You're basically saying they filmed Batgirl because Flash did so well. That's how stupid you are

>>150951216
if superman had truly been a flop, they wouldnt have released or greenlit anything else

>>150951232
wonder woman 3 never officially entered production whereas superman 2 already has an expected release date, so these arent comparable in anyway

>>150950873
>Being kind in a jaded and cynical world is also an act of rebellion, because those losers have given up and accept their circumstances.
By calling it an act of rebellion you just made it an attack towards your enemies instead of an act of empathy
You can be kind and be rebellious at the same time but giving to the poor to "own the corpos" is disingenuous, it's the definition of virtue signaling and the opposite of kindness
If you really want to "own the corpos" so much mail Jeff Bezos some anthrax, not this poser bullshit

>>150950873
That's what I mean. It's not a function of contrarianism, it's a more solid set of values. The quote about "in an indifferent world caring is punk" defines punk as just the opposite of what's most common. It's like there's a second part of that conversation missing where the end goal of punk is making punk unnecessary, to achieve a caring world. Punk becomes an incidental aesthetic, a side effect that no one should aim to be. It's a state of rebellion and the confederate flag is "rebel". It's a valueless descriptor used to shallowly convey what Superman has done by defying the governments and billionaires to prevent a genocide with violence and without permission.

>>150951256
Supporting executions can be an act of empathy as well as one of self preservation. The punkness and virtue signalling aspect of it are aesthetic. The movie tried to tie to anything against what is popular which could include virtue signalling and vice signalling.

>>150950774
Cry, shill.
>>150950777
Checked.

>>150949234
>WB execs are internally quite pleased with it
Sure, buddy. Your dad works at Warner, right?

It's never been more unironically over

>>150949152
Commie propaganda

>>150950707
It's closer to Nu-Metal with its emphasis on self-harm and emotions

>tfw anons itt actually trying to justify that being a dick to people on principle is a good thing, ackshually, and that corporate cynicism for profit is the new norm, deal with it
If being kind is simply someone being contrarian, what does that make you, dingus?

>>150949141 (OP)
dumb woke femoid centric movie

>>150949141 (OP)
>treating kindness as if its some spiteful act of rebellion
This is why you retards get hate. You do the most inhuman shit and then get mad when people think you're being psychotic.

>>150949141 (OP)
>BIG CORPORATIONS ARE LE BAD BECAUSE....
>IT SIMPLY IS OK?

>>150949141 (OP)
Punk rock? Then guys with mohawks, smelling like urine, vomit and cheap alcohol? Often unemployed? That punk rock?

>>150952260
yeah why wouldn't it be? Do you think that being nice out of spite is a good thing?
>If being kind is simply someone being contrarian, what does that make you, dingus
Honest? If I hate someone I will say it, not pretend to be nice and care about them so I can appear to be above it all and the "bigger person".

>>150952212
Snyderbros were right, and had always been right.

>>150951441
It is a function of contrarianism given you are using it to rebel and not because it is something that you truly believe in it. The kindness would show is insincere and hollow, it is a show to make yourself appear to be better when in reality you are just lying to everyone.

>>150952350
Need to be 18 to post here, buckaroo. Come back in a few years, we'll still be here

>>150952397
Funny how you claim to be all about kindness but the second the sincerity of it gets called into question you get passive aggressive.

>>150952438
Virtue signalers in a nutshell.

>>150952356
They can be as right as they want he's never coming back

>>150949141 (OP)
Everyone who says this voted for Kamala, make of that what you will

>>150952390
That's why punkness is incidental here, it just is. In a better world, punk would just be throwing bottles and tagging, but the argument is likely that not only is doing the right thing good, it's also a cool rebel thing to do. It was framed as the aesthetic perk rather than the reason.

>>150952212
Did he really do an interview with a shill account

>>150952506
I did and have no regrets, Donald was simply too Jewy.

>>150952524
He won't do interviews with anyone else

>>150952438
>he thinks questioning the sincerity of his fellow man on all matters, at all times is a viable means to navigate the chaotic shit show that is existence in this universe
You're going to have a stroke before you hit 40, anon. Good luck and God bless

>>150952350
So you'll just be an asshole, then?

>>150952631
>>150952660
Nta but holy strawman. You guys are retarded.

No one in these superman threads is sincere. This is why anime and manga keep winning. They just tell retarded but entertaining stories without forcing messages or politics

>>150952260
>Being kind is the new punk!
>How do i know?
>Warner Brothers™ told me!
Yeah, you're such a fucking rebel anon, keep sucking that cock!
How about instead of following a made up slogan you think for yourself?

>>150952835
You first

>>150952835
>pic related
>he thinks the media, corporations and etc actually believe in the things they say they support
All that is solid melts into PR

>>150952674
How is it a strawman, exactly?

>>150952954
Maybe the smell of my huge dick and balls made you believe i was a corporation you needed to suck off, but no, you don't actually need my or anyone's permission to do anything or think for yourself
>>150953086
And yet, you're still parroting what Warner Bros. told you to say
Curious...

>>150952835
This meme is dumb because the universities were clearly clashing with mainstream media over Gaza. It was dumb before, but now it's more clearly a combination of "I don't watch the news but I somehow know what they do and do not cover" and "corporations are marxist because Raytheon had a pride float". It's reacting to what you see as shallow activitism by finding a way to be more shallow.

>>150953229
>And yet, you're still parroting what Warner Bros. told you to say
I'm not that anon

"Punk rock" was literally always corporate-manufactured. There is not a single moment in its history where that wasn't the case. It was never anything more than a marketing gimmick to sell at the time experimental fashion. Anyone who argues against this is either a shill, a gen x manchild who refuses to grow up, or a zoomer/younger millennial who wasn't alive when punk first got started.

>>150952835
Except no on likes an asshole. This is just a fact. You can pretend to be tough, but going around instigating violence will only get people wanting to stab you. Being kind does not equate to be weak.

Don't act like a menace.

When will the Snydertard cope end?

>>150953452
It will end once a Gunn DC film makes a billion

>>150949234
Maybe the budget but not the marketing you corpo sludge sucker.

>>150949298
What you mean is that the statement is nothing more than advertising, one which ssems to work on faggots in this very thread.

>>150950243
Because it is.

>>150949182
Hmm. I don't experience the trash treatment outside the internet though. Usually people don't have the balls to be so uhh contemptuous face to face. And while I am tall, I do not think that's the case. I work with people much shorter than me and I don't see them getting trashed on either.
Now, online? For sure if I open the mouth I know I'm going to be called retarded or Nazi or something like that. But that's not real life, much less so a representation of an average.

>>150953376
Women like assholes. But for some reason anons are still virgins

>>150953373
Name five rebellious movements that weren't started, co-opted or exploited by corporations.

>>150953578
>*dumb bitches like assholes
Ftfy

>>150953613
>There is not a single moment in its history where that wasn't the case.
That anon agreed with you in the second sentence. Did you not read it?

>>150952356
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/7drhZMNmTUoummSBaKClQQ/
Who the hell do you think you're trying to fool, here?

>>150951094
When your box office gross gets BTFO by a mid movie from 2014, you flopped, kid.

55 mil loss isn't that much y'know, barely makes a dent when you're neck deep in debt.

Only if Gunn has the Justice Gang kill Netanyahu for real instead of an expy. If he went full Injustice and abolished Israel then that would be real punk rock.

Treating people in your life with kindness is just the pragmatic thing to do.

Pedoman is the new Cleopatra. It sank a studio

>>150951178
>budget and marketing

There's that meme again.

>>150952212
WB shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic, per usual. I'm impressed they can get anything done, nowadays.

>>150952270
>>150952304
Post this again, but with actual words.

>>150952835
>made up slogan

Horseshit. I've been hearing this before Superman even made this a thing. Try leaving your hovel twice a week.

>>150953452
When they lay Snyder into the cold ground, or the heat death of the universe.

>>150953662
Study harder, kid.

>>150952792
Man, I'd love to see an interaction between Tanjiro and and actual, proper Superman.