Thread 151048767

>>151048767 (OP)
By that point he probably didn’t care anymore

They didn't deserve to die like that.

>>151048767 (OP)
Because Terry wasn't setting out to kill anyone directly, he just didn't care if they happened to die

Except for the Joker, but you could invoke robot rules on that I'd say

>>151048767 (OP)
Bruce was old and Terry wasn't Bruce.

>>151048912
>>151048978
He absolutely does set out to kill he leaves Mr Fixx to die, drops material on 2 scientists, murders the terrific trio:
https://youtu.be/XpeZweKi24U?si=9G2QkYQjKmD_BFOy&t=172

Bruce being old doesn't mean he sudden;y abandons his morality. Being driven to a point where he has to threaten a guy with a gun is what leads him to quit remember? He doesn't shoot the guy.

>>151048767 (OP)
Not even scratching the tip of the iceberg on batman beyond's issues

>>151048767 (OP)
Bruce's internal guilt that Terry is his son and that his genetic material was used to rewrite someone's balls ruined Terry's nuclear family.

>>151048767 (OP)
Because he realized he'd never really solved anything in Gotham City.

Imagine reaching old age and realizing all your effort was for nothing; Gotham was much worse than before.
He simply gave the new generation the chance to do things their own way.

>>151049640
Stop being a baby, who doesn't want to shoot bat-semen from their own penis?

>>151049640
This is from a JLU episode however.

>>151048767 (OP)
Terry is completely new to the game and needs to do things his own way, trying to keep people alive in situations where he can't (including situations where he only thinks he can't) is just going to get him killed (and others)
Bruce could afford to keep people alive most of the time because he was highly trained and talented, all he can really hope for in his old age is to try and get Terry trained enough to be able to save people more often than kill them

Because, outside of Terry being based and awesome, Beyond is kinda a bad-timeline for the Bat-Family. Bruce is old and bitter from a lifetime of giving in to his worst "muh lone wolf" habits and drives everyone who loves him away and by the time Terry gives him hope again, he's bent a little in his code.

>>151048767 (OP)
Because Bruce finally realized his coddling criminals method was detrimental to surviving in Gotham.

>>151048767 (OP)
>some faggot fuck himself trying to beat up your boy

The man spent his entire life bound by hardline rules, just to traumatize himself by having to break one to not die, quitting immediately after, and sitting feeble in his mansion watching the city somehow become *even worse* then when he started.

No wonder he got so bitter and out of fucks to give.

>>151050040
All of these explanations read like fanfiction. Bruce Wayne himself never rebukes his no-kill rule or says it was a mistake. This is writing for the show not drawing from what is actually said or shown

>>151049966
>Because Bruce finally realized his coddling criminals method was detrimental to surviving in Gotham.

And the worst part? Lock-Up was right.

>>151050196
If you think about it, Mad Stan is the conceptual successor to Lock-Up. They both see that the system is deeply flawed and corrupt, but Stan takes it a step further and decides the system must be destroyed.

>>151050196
Meh, brutalize the Joker if you want, but I don't think legit mentally ill cases like ventriloquist need that kinda treatment.

>>151049640
This was from JLU and I don't consider the Batman Beyond epilogue episode to be canon. Just watch the series and Return of the Joker.

>>151050296
That thumbnail is fuckin' weird, man.

>>151051352
he truly is mad

Did Terry protect Gotham better than Bruce?

Didn’t he always forgive his sidekicks for killing people so long as they weren’t intentionally trying to kill people and didn’t keep doing it? I don’t think he’s ever wanted to put red hood behind bars for example, he just wanted him to stop killing people. He didn’t get pissed at Tim for shooting the joker. Then there’s Damien, who had an insane kill count before he managed to get him to sympathise with his no kill rule. So with Terry it’s not that he’s ok with him killing, it’s that he’s understand the kid is young and doing this alone and he’s not going to have a go at him if he’s not able to save every villain or has to take a life to save his own. For the most part the only person Bruce has ever seriously imposed the no kill rule on is himself.

>>151052813
No but he did a good job protecting his high school

More importantly why was Terry with cheating on Dana? Terry was a criminal plan and simple.

>>151048767 (OP)
The nuance people are bringing up is all good and well, really, but a more cold and succinct read would be that the Gotham Bruce knew as a kid was long gone by the time Terry became Batman. Besides his own failings from his crusade he probably knew on a primal level that no amount of it from anyone else or better would change that. Lecturing Terry, who was raised in the shit despite all, would have been delusional along with the stuff about him being new, it being usually an accident and so on.

>>151053082
When did he do that?

>>151048767 (OP)
Most of the time it was their own fault. Blight and Hook Guy are a whole thing though.

>>151053082
She made it clear that they broke up.

>>151051352
>Your average hag lover when you insult their favorite hag

>>151049738
Gotham is not at all as bad as it was when Bruce was active. There are some remains of crime, but it's not the disaster that it used to be.

>>151048767 (OP)
He was?

Batman is one man and wholly incapable of 24/7 babysitting each and every one of the thousands of criminals he has interacted with. This means many of the criminals he has allowed return to the streets have gone on to murder many innocents. This means your gay little poorly conceptualized super hero fantasy is directly responsible for causing unforgivable death + an overly forgiving mind virus that allows and encourages criminals to continue to rape and pillage your civilization.

You're a god damned man child for continuing to engage in the circulation of such a low IQ venture, and you're at least barely responsible for allowing and energizing evil entities that should be purged to run rampant.

Killing evil is good, and spreading batman tropes is evil.

>>151049640
Worst reconciliation ever

>>151055936
Retcon*

They killed themselves in their hubris

>>151052813
The police force seems more adequate this time around with Barbara running it. Also most of the villians end up dead

>>151049640
>plot twist: terry was already born and his little brother got the bat spank DNA

how would you react?

Bruce was good enough that he could afford to hold back. Terry isn't. Caring for your enemy's safety is something you can only afford if you're overwhelmingly above them.

>>151048767 (OP)
It was less he killed them and more they merc'd themselves / he didn't save them.
Loophole.

>>151048767 (OP)
Cause he isnt a weak willed pussy like bruce

>>151055911
You're projecting your issues with society not just murdering every criminal onto me questioning why a fictional character is behaving out of character.
Not to mention failing to understand Batman is a comic, comics exist in an endless middle where status quo always returns. Punisher murders thousands of Mafia types, yet there's always more because it's a comic maintained by writers and not reality.
>>151058151
It's a point that Terry isn't as experienced as Bruce, it's still just odd Bruce doesn't even mention it.
>>151058162
Untrue, Terrific trio are directly killed by Terry as is Mr Fixx and those 2 scientists working for the new Bane.

>>151048767 (OP)
Badly written show.

>>151048784
>Well… at least he’s not killing anyone innocent

>>151050040
>>151049921
>>151049738
>>151048978
>>151048784
but BvS was wrong for portraying the same and actually having a redemption arc. fucking tards

>>151048767 (OP)
I wonder if Bruce would be okay with police officers or random people killing psychopaths. Like, would he care if someone "accidentally" shot the Joker in the head while taking him to Arkham?

>>151059610
that happened several times and he saved the Joker. Hell, its Hush 2 plot.

>>151059575
Batman in BvS wasnt a withered geriatric who literally couldn't be Batman and had all his friends die, you dumb bastard. He's closer to the Dark Knight Returns.

>>151059683
>and had all his friends die
Robin died. And he alluded to other people dying. He also speaks as if he had +20 or +30 years in the hamster wheel achieving shit

>>151050296
Stan is funnier too

>>151048767 (OP)
he was still pissed off about what the joker did to tim

To be fair I don’t think Terry’s go to was murder I just think that he didn’t think that whatever he did would kill someone
>*freezes Inque and shatters her*
>Yeah she’s probably ok