Thread 151160145

>therapy episode
>it's actually good

Name five bad therapy episodes

>>151160145 (OP)
So she only likes him because he was nice to her once? That's sad.

worst character in the show

>>151160186
which one?

>>151160158
pickle rick

>>151160158
the therapy episode of rick and morty where the lady therapist intellectually trounces rick

>>151160692
Problem there is that the therapist was basically made into a mind ninja. A therapist character can be a great tool for writers if you know how to use one. Like the one in the Sopranos because the whole thing hinged around how utterly helpless he felt with a client who was ultimately just a validation seeking psychopath with no desire to work on himself.

>>151160174
Arnold is always nice to her regardless of how Helga treats him. That's why she loves Arnold.

>>151160145 (OP)
>it's actually good
Not really

>>151160467
nobody really hates arnold

>>151161064
Curly was my favorite character as a kid, he did need some help seriously but I had a little crush on him as a young girl

>>151160145 (OP)
would Arnold like her if she was less tsun and more dere? she was absolutely mean to him in a very abusive way

>>151160145 (OP)
Therapy is a fun avenue to explore a characters psyche but it isn’t always accurate to the therapy experience. I’ve been to a lot of therapy and usually you’re just paying someone to ask how your day was.

I think therapy is compelling because we all quietly want it to be a magic cure all solution for all our mental strife.

But I know that's not true.

>>151160174
Most probably no one else was ever nice to her.

>>151163025
> fag shit
gross

>>151160145 (OP)
I hate this episode because it shows that Helga was antagonistic since she was younger and its a choice for her to act so cruel to Arnold. And don't bother saying "Harold was making fun of her" Harold is scared of Helga and has been for years after she injured him during the flashback. So Helga being a bully to Arnold is simply a choice. And because its a choice she getting an undeserved happy ending is such vile garbage.

The Jungle Movie is trash. Hey kids be an abusive bully for years and your crush will like you back. Awful moral. A few good deeds that Helga does doesn't excuse her multi year abuse of Arnold.

>>151163157
Helga is only outwardly mean to Arnold, you have to consider all the kind things she does for him when he isn't looking. Actions > words.

>>151160174
>>151161123
This is how a lot of childhood crushes end up. Some kid gets it in their head to obsess over some other kid for the slightest of reasons and imagine they are their one true forever love (even if they're not even in a real relationship).

And Helga's obsession with Arnold is NOT treated as normal because she literally has a shrine made to him created out of his discarded bubble gum. Part of why therapy works in a show like Hey Arnold is because many of the characters do have mental issues but toned down just enough to be appropriate for a children's TV show. Helga is a stalker, Curly >>151161064 is like a parody of school shooters, Helga's mom is an alcoholic with her smoothies, Chocolate boy is basically a metaphor for drug addiction, there's homeless bums on the street.

Compare Arnold's grandma who clearly has some form of elderly dementia to BoJack's mom who also got dementia when older. One is often treated as a joke they can play off as the grandma just being eccentric and whacky and the other is made to be depressing.

>>151163211
Arnold's grandmother does not have dementia. The joke with her is like all grandmother characters during the late nineties and early 2000s is that she's the Extreme Grandma. Basically despite she being old she's able to do activities that you would think only young people would do like dog sledding during the snow episode, surfing during the Spring Break episode, or even pull a literal criminal breaking in heist during the turtle episode. So yeah lets not overreach. On that note Arnold's grandfather is also played up as being rather fit and capable in a lot of episodes, ironically the ONE episode where Arnold's grandfather was treated as a real old man without stamina is the one with the swimming shark competition where he wanted to win against his former best friend.

>>151163491
>Arnold's grandmother does not have dementia.
There's a scene where Arnold walks by and Grandma is doing a handstand and doesn't even recognize him. Grandpa has to tell her it's Arnold, she says "who?" Grandpa: "Our Grandson". "Oh we should introduce him to the nice little blond boy that was just here".

She was always saying crazy shit like that so she wasn't just "Extreme Grandma".

>>151163491
>>151163765
Hey Arnold was pretty good at implying a lot of stuff about characters but not outright explicitly telling the audience.

So for example it was pretty obvious Arnold's teacher was gay. You can tell just from the way he talks and carries himself. He didn't act comically flamboyant but I could still tell he was gay years before the creator confirmed it after the fact. Compare that to Arthur where the kids go to Mr Ratburn's gay wedding (I mean what kind of teacher even invites their students to their wedding, gay or straight?).

>>151163901
Yep, the problem isn't that Ratburn is gay (well, up to the individual), it's that what teacher would involve the students they teach to their wedding? Like sure, if Arthur and Ratburn had a mentor/student thing going like after school I could see it, but the way it played out? Nah.

>>151164207
Well many older cartoons could still bring up politically awkward messages but they at least had some tact about it. Like look at pic-related from the old Teen Titans show. It obviously a metaphor for racism but since the writers had some restraint it comes across as sort of funny that much of the audience would immediately think it's due to him being black instead of being part robot.

It's not beating you over the head with "IT'S BECAUSE I'M BLACK AND WHITES BE RACIST BLACKS LIVES MATTER".

>>151160158
Ren Seeks Help.

>>151160145 (OP)
This episode has more genuine mental health awareness than 5 seasons of Steven Universe.

>>151164493
Hey Arnold is a better show than Steven Universe could ever hope to be

>>151161064
Curly is going to end up raping and killing Rhonda.

>>151160145 (OP)
nah shitty ass episode, Helga family had flaws yes, too many, but this all makes her look like she's just a victim when she also have her share in all that stuff, leaving on her father's birthday, making Olga change to school when she was a teacher, the nanny episode etc

>>151161064
>he really was going to beat them all with a hammer in the Ghost Bride episode.

>>151164859
>making Olga change to school when she was a teacher
Your direct relative should never teach in your class. I don't even think that's allowed in real public schools. Like if your mother or sister teaches in your school you would never be assigned to their class for obvious reasons.

>>151160145 (OP)
I have a friend whose been doing therapy for like a year, he's a nice guy but he does have some significant flaws in how he handles his relationships (both platonic and romantic). However from talking to him, it sounds like he's just been told he's great and he just needs to heal from past trauma? Feels like kinda of a scam

>>151165059
I’m so critical of talk therapy, most people don’t even realize there are other types that are much more effective

>>151160158
The Family Guy one with Stewie

>>151164931
It happened twice to me, first time in fifth grade where a classmate was the teachers daughter and again in middle school where a classmate was a teachers nephew. Both times on urban areas

>>151164493
>>151164623
This isn't a high bar. Also Hey Arnold was just Nickelodeon's replacement for Doug because it was just as boring and forgettable.

>>151165081
Therapy in general is a scam. Talking about your feelings just makes you weak. Be a man!

>>151161513
I really hate Arnold

>>151167044
Be honest, Helga!

>>151163765
Seeing it from an older perspective and within my family. This show is much sadder in that respect that from the very beginning we think granny is an old kook because she is old or always was, but grandpa isn't. Which only stands to reason she has dementia and Arnold is use to her mind going. It didn't just happen suddenly but gradually.

You can be very lively and active at an old age but your mind is just... go.

>>151160158
>>151165704
came here to say that one.
There were some shitty Dr. Katz episodes but that feels like cheating.

>>151168551
Dr. Katz isn't about therapy; it's an unstated joke that Katz is a huckster who does almost nothing for his clients. If it was about therapy it'd be stated.

>>151160145 (OP)
>desperately obsesses over Arnold because he was the first person to show her compassion or even acknowledge her at all
I never thought about just how fucking sad this is until now

Nadine should've had more screen time.

>>151160158
Pickle Rick. It unironically killed the series

>>151160145 (OP)
This

>>151160522
(you) won
I kneel

>>151166176
I can't be a man, Anon... I'd have to take hormones

>>151161064
>kids eventually get to high school
>curly tries to get advantage of Rhonda and forces himself on her
>Arnold catches him on the act
>learns the hard way that some people are just beyond help
>beats the shit out of Curly along with the rest of the class

>>151161064
>He once framed Eugene for pulling the fire alarm with an elaborate plan just because Eugene sharpened his pencil down to the eraser
jesus chris

>>151168731
Half of Olga's character is that she adores Helga (and Helga fails to understand this) so I don't know how this is supposed to work, unless Olga was kept so busy by her parents that she didn't have time.

>>151165704
Also Rick and Morty one.

>>151171315
Olga adores Helga, but she never actually knew her while growing up due to her being the golden child. They never had that bond moment. Olga tries to get to know her more, but Helga still resents her for her golden child status.
...Which ultimately lets the sisters bond a little.

>>151160158
All of them.

>>151164466
Not a bad episode, in fact it's the only good episode from APC