Thread 2944794

Is there any reason for general purpose screwdrivers (so not like, demo drivers, manual impacts, etc) to not just go with long bits in a bitholder versus a set?

Assuming same quality of bits and driver tips, etc

>>2944794 (OP)
yeah driver tips falling out is maddening af. a racheting screwdriver handle that accepts bits is fine but doesn't actually replace a normal screwdriver. Also get that ergo handle shit out of here. Go to a flea market and try to find some boomer flatblade that doesn't have tip etching to encourage it snapping with a normal handle, get a phillips 1 and 2 and a jis. You don't need the fancy fucking bits if you're not taking apart bathroom stalls and screwdrivers are useful for more than just driving screws, where a handle is not. /ramble

>>2944794 (OP)
>Is there any reason for general purpose screwdrivers
Easier to grab and to switch back and forth, if you need multiple sizes. Having the two or three drivers at hand an just grabbing them when you need them beats having to fiddle with a blade.
I've got full screwdrivers and a bit holder. Best combination.
>>2944796
>get a phillips 1 and 2 and a jis. You don't need the fancy fucking bits
>fancy fucking bits
Lol, look at this brute still using philips. Philips is the worst. At least upgrade to Pz, if you must stay with crosses.

>>2944806
>At least upgrade to Pz, if you must stay with crosses.
Do you buy new screws to replace all of the Phillips screws in your appliances? What do you use to remove the original screws?

>>2944794 (OP)
There are many odd cases that require you to have both standard screwdrivers, long bits and short bits. Most common issue I run into, mostly with electrical, is that the long bits don't fit right into a deep recessed hole (the shaft of the bit being too thick/too short). So in that regard, you already need at bare minimum flat drivers, but since flat is shit, you'll also want posidrive and philips, electrical mostly being posi.
Then the second common issue is that you just can't fit anything into a tight spot, so you either need an ultra low profile bit driver with the short bits, or a short screwdriver. If you're working in a hard to reach spot, the regular short screwdriver is likely gonna be less fiddly.
So basically, you need to have everything, but you can lean more into bits for special/security screw types at least.

>>2944810
>is that the long bits don't fit right into a deep recessed hole (the shaft of the bit being too thick/too short)

I've had to get a screwdriver before for this with just short bits, but I was thinking long bits would avoid the problem because the 1/4 hex holder wouldn't get in the way?

>>2944813
Long bits aren't necessarily thin shaft. Some are, but for example, even in the OP image, some of the smaller bits are "thinner" shaft, thinner than standard, but not as thin as the equivalent regular screwdriver would be. Notably the torx ones, they are thicker than equivalent regular drivers would be. They didn't even bother with the posidrive/philips ones. It's probably possible to find good hex kits that have fairly thin shafts, but it's not the standard.

>>2944794 (OP)
I have a set like that but it is because I was a travelling service guy and they save loads of luggage space and weight. Now I use them at home and switching the bit a few times takes more time than just grabbing the 2/3 drivers I need would.

On the other hand those wera bits shown are very nice to put in an electric driver

>>2944794 (OP)
The slop in long bits like that is annoying too. Even on the best drivers it doesn’t feel as positive as a real driver.

Also your pic looks fucking horrible. The most uncomfortable Playskool slav-made handle with the cheapest Harbor Freight bit set. That’s the worst of both worlds. You would be better off with the $6 HF screwdriver set.

They don't work as well when being used in lieu of a pry bar.

>>2944794 (OP)
Theres a middle ground

Absolutely. I would rather have three screwdrivers that I switch between than one handle that swaps bits if I'm working on a project.

>>2944808
Most appliances have either Torx, Hex or various safety heads, followed by Px and then some nondescript cross, where you never know if it's Philips, JIS or some other cross variant or if the tolerances are even tight enough for it to matter which driver you use, so, whatever.
I do of course have various philips around, since they're always in any set you get, but philips was and is a mistake.