My friend said black and navy clash but I thought it was a classic combo. Who is right here? Also what is the most traditional tie to wear with this ensemble?

>>18461654 (OP)
A lot of people are total retards who parrot shit they've heard without understanding why. Brown and black, for example, compliment each other very well but some people adamantly insist it shouldn't be done. Those people are retards.

>>18461654 (OP)
Black chelseas are excellent with a navy suit except for business formal. Adding a tie sounds like you're going for business formal though, so consider black oxfords.

Same for the button down shirt. A better option would be an actual dress shirt.

>>18461654 (OP)
no brown in town, brown shoes should never be worn with a blue suit

>>18461674
>no brown in town, brown shoes should never be worn with a blue suit
Perfect example of:
>>18461658

>>18461676
the only people who wear brown shoes with a blue suit are cuckolds who wive's picked out their wedding attire cause they didnt know any better

>>18461680
You've clearly never worked in an IB or HF in the city. Sorry that you live off antiquated sayings that you don't understand. Also sorry that your wife cucked you, hope it gets better for you anon.

Blue and black is generally a no-no. That looks somewhat OK. Still, brown and blue pair better.

>>18461683
no brown in town retard, sorry you look like a cuck at your mcjob though
>>18461685
brown shoes should never be worn with a blue suit, always black

>>18461687
>no brown in town retard

No one follows this anymore, especially as most buyside and sellside institutions have relaxed their previously strict dress. Are you sure (you) are not the one working a mcjob anon?

>>18461688
again, the only people who wear brown shoes with blue suits are losers who wives' picked them out because they didnt know any better and already had the color on her mind :^)

>>18461693
Strangely specific scenario and analogy

>>18461694
yes, its exactly the series of events that leads a grown man to wear brown shoes with a blue suit and think such an ancient faux pas is acceptable

Okay. Can I get a tie recommendation

>>18461702
Very hard to pick a bad tie with a navy suit. Almost anything goes.

>>18461685
No. It's not a no-no. You're just parroting some stupid old shit from Cosmopolitan or GQ without even realizing it. Black and blue are perfect together. That's why it a popular color combo for many navy uniforms.

>>18461694
it is actually more common than you realize, and this just doesn't look good does it. You could start to think about why it doesn't work, but honestly what's the point, it just doesn't

>>18461702
check out regimental ties

>>18461654 (OP)
Sounds like your friend is a retard.

>Also what is the most traditional tie to wear with this ensemble?
Navy grenadine tie.

>>18461654 (OP)
A navy blue suit will definitely clash with a black shirt, for example, using black shoes and belt or suspenders is acceptable.

For the ensemble of your pic you can either combine with lighter shades of blues or contrast with different reds. I would avoid brown, purple, orange, white and black ties. Yellow and green are doable. But the ensemble is too solid, I would definitely go for some kind of pattern, stripes preferably.

>>18461937
There is already so much wrong here. If you crop out the ill-fitting shoes it would still look bad.

Poor guy getting cucked by his wife.

I have a wedding in a few months, I was thinking navy suit + black chelseas but I also wanted to try out the turtleneck + suit combo and I'm not sure what color would fit that, any advice?
For outerwear I have either a camel overcoat or navy wool mackintosh but that's probably not very important

>>18462199
bump

>>18461654 (OP)
You can certainly wear black with navy. Just everyone does it. Dark Brown and Burgundy look a lot better.

>>18461937
If you weren't in the Military you shouldn't wear a regimental tie, it looks poserish AF.

>>18462199
Mid gray or charcoal with a navy suit. Would wear mid gray with the camel overcoat and charcoal with the navy overcoat.

>>18461702
Glen check, double repp stripe, grenadine grossa. Dark colors.

On the spectrum of traditional menswear to wearing a fitted black t shirt with skinny jeans and talking about the color of your Bugatti blue suit and black shoes leans just ever so slightly to the side of traditional menswear but I do mean ever so slightly.

>>18462199
Idk why people go full retard at weddings. Unless you are asked for a specific dress code, you just wear a darker grey or navy suit, white shirt, with brown belt and shoes. For a jacket, wear whatever. Nobody gives a shit.

>>18465082
Thanks. Mid grey turtleneck, navy suit and black chelseas is probably what I'll end up going for

>>18461654 (OP)
black shoes/watch/tie/accessories with a blue suit is obviously fine

it's wearing a navy jacket with black pants or vice versa that clashes

>>18461683
imagine not knowing you look like a dweeb wearing brown shoes with a blue suit. You saw it on TV didn't you, you saw some dweeb on TV wearing brown shoes with a blue suit and thought it was acceptable. It's not. Stop doing it.

>>18461685
>brown and blue pair better.
They dont though, like the one guy said, it makes you look like your wife dressed you up. It's the look of a midtier insurance salesman, it's the look of a non partner injury lawyer. Stop doing it.

>>18461688
>My boss says I can dress shitty at work so its ok!
Do better anon, have some standards.

>>18461937
I don't know how anyone can see how brown shoes look with a blue suit and think "Yeah, that's what I want, that looks good!".

If you are dying to wear brown shoes get a grey suit or a brown suit, even an olive.

>>18461702
Navy, white dots if you wanna dress conservative. Yellow/blue pattern if you‘re not afraid of colour. Olive/sage might be okay

>>18462199
It‘s summer

>>18461937
Tan shoes + (bright) navy suit is literally the worst thing you could wear. I‘d respect sweatpants more

This is how you look when you wear a blue/navy suit with brown shoes.

>>18465798
That about sums it up. I don't know why people gravitate towards the lighter tans when dark brown is so much more versatile.
>>18461702
If you want a little visual interest without going too crazy on the pattern try looking for gabardine/birdseye woven ties. Hard to go wrong with Navy.