how do you decide between black and brown shoes? all my shoes are black but i'd like to buy some brown shoes.

>>18465446 (OP)
no brown in town, you only wear brown when in the country and only wear black when you are in a city

>>18465460
based british fashion rules enjoyer

I just never wear black anything personally. All my shoes are various shades of brown, my suits various shades of grey and navy. I have no black hoodies, black jackets, black tees, nothing.

>>18465446 (OP)
>black and brown
Horrible colors and even more horrible people

>>18465460
Because mexican are in the country and rap basketball people are in city?

>>18465460
strictly following rules you don‘t understand doesn‘t make up for your lack of knowledge

>>18465556
>doesn't have half a dozen black jeans and denim jackets in various levels of fades
What a sad existence.

>>18465460
So there is no reason to not just go with black shoes since you can use them both in town and in the country

>>18465556
I have black but only wear it in the winter. Otherwise it's various shades of brown, burgundy and blue for shoes. Black is not bad if you can combine different textures of black clothing with black shoes or boots. I guess it's a NY thing.

>>18465446 (OP)
If you're talking leather dress shoes like you posted, black is considered more formal. But all of these rules are from a bygone time, and nowadays you see young people wearing whatever the fuck they want.

>>18466076
Gay

>>18465446 (OP)
black and brown coming together

>>18466110
I mean for casual derbies and oxfords. I'm trying to grow out of sneakers.

>>18466245
Derbies and oxfords are still considered dress shoes, they're just more casual dress shoes.

>>18465460
LMAO luckily for most us we don't live in the 1930s and the roads aren't covered in soot and ash anymore.

>>18465446 (OP)
Only Reddit neckbeards and other balding Millennials wear brown shoes.

>>18466289
If Oxfords are casual dress shoes then what the fuck are formal dress shoes?

>>18466414
LOL trendy NPC faggot. Imagine thinking a color can be owned by a particular group. You wear every color and style depending upon your mood and outfit, you irredeemable cuck.

So by no brown in town, i'm taking it as downtown /CBD. What about the suburbs? Is it still in "town" or is that the countryside?

>>18466425
Yeah I had a brain shart and grouped them together. Derbies are casual, oxfords are not. You're right

>>18466445
I was actually hoping to learn about a new kind of ultra formal shoes.

Wear brown with chinos or any country coded trouser (i.e. corduroy, cavalry twill). Stick to dark brown shoes. Town/Country rules are not so strict anymore, only time it applies today is for things like norfolk jackets, safari jackets, etc. Completely acceptable to wear tweed sport jackets, brown loafers/chinos, etc. in a city.

>>18466100
historically in bongland there was a mutual disgust between city folk and country folk.
you couldn't wear black leather in the country (or use black horse tack for that matter) because it was reserved strictly for funerals.

>>18466425
>>18466445
>>18466449
The oxford is a casualized lower-cut version of an earlier dress boot called a Balmoral Boot today. Dress boots are inherently more formal than dress shoes, for the same reason that loafers are more casual. Since this end of the formality spectrum does not exist anymore in general (i.e. more formal clothing like morning dress) this distinction is antiquated.

>>18466535
boots are actually less formal, since they're for outdoor use. notice the broguing in your example.
you're implying that it is the height of the footwear that makes it more formal. this silly, since when dress boots were a thing they were a slightly dressier alternative to the giant hessian boots worn by horsemen.
also the most formal style of shoe of all is the court pump, which is cut even lower than a loafer.

So what /hg/ regulars are MIA?

>>18465446 (OP)
These days it's more about what colour of shoe matches best with the colour of the other things you're wearing. Brown shoes look great with a blue suit, brown shoes look awful with a black suit. Both brown and black shoes look fine with a grey or tan suit. Also make sure all the other leather you're wearing is the same (or close) colour as your shoes. For example brown shoes with brown leather belt and brown leather watch strap.

>>18466557
There is no contradiction. Dress boots are daywear and pumps are nightwear. They operate within a different logic because of this. Daywear is also inherently less formal than nightwear. Boots are also not necessarily rugged- it's just that we do not wear formal boots anymore.

>>18466557
that's a bloody slipper

>>18465460
>no brown in town
You're about 60 years too late for that. All I see is brown when I venture into the city.

>>18465984
bait used to be believable

>>18466535
I love those balmoral boots, but my chunky high arch feet makes it impossible to get one right. I also don't have oxfords for the same reason.

>>18465987
I'm a Mexican and live in the pristine rural suburbs of Kentucky

Re: no brown in town- even the autists at Gentlemen's Gazette say to ignore it
>>18466604
Yeah balmoral boots for morning wear and opera pumps for white tie.

>>18468138
nice taste

>>18465556
Yeah the "black goes with everything" meme is retarded. It can completely overpower an outfit and dark navy generally does better what people think black does.

>>18466436
That's up to you to decide

>>18465446 (OP)
>inb4 >bespoke unit
I got this from the /fa/ sticky years ago

>>18468462
Filled with errors. And wtf are "contemporary shoes"? A lot of colors on here that shouldn't be there categorically. You'll look like a clown if you follow this.