As someone with genetically large calves if I find the person who popularized slim-fitting pants and ballooning pantaloons as the reasonable alternative to that, I'll sock him right in the face.
These people have made it impossible to find normal clothes.

How does regular compare to straight? I feel like regular stills snugs me more that I'd like, but I'm afraid straight will be too loose and flappy around at the bottom.

>>18472992 (OP)
those are ambiguous marketing terms, there's no such thing as a 'regular fit'.
it sounds like you want jeans that look like straight fit jeans, but your body's shaped a little bit outside the norm.
just go relaxed through the whole leg. your goal should be jeans that fit on the relaxed side in the thigh + knee and not too tight at the calves. the looser thigh will balance out your large calves. if they're too loose below the knees don't worry about it, take them to the tailor.
i would recommend 1930's repro jeans because they have a truly straight leg with no taper. if you want jeans with a taper this gives you a blank canvas for your tailor to perfectly fit it to your large calves. you might also want to size a little on the loose side depending on the fit you want -- they have a back cinch so you can adjust the waist without needing to tailor or wear a belt.
the only old timey thing about them is the back cinch and fit. otherwise they don't look anachronistic, you can wear them with any modern fit and they won't look out of place. little bit niche of a product though.

>tailor
you want to go to a good one for that alteration btw. and tell them to taper from the inseam not the outseam if they are selvedge jeans or else they will mess your selvedge id up. and if you don't mind the look of knee darts it may be worth mentioning that when the tailor plans it out.

>>18472992 (OP)
> but I'm afraid straight will be too loose and flappy around at the bottom.
And what's wrong with being loose at the bottom? Your clothes don't have to hug your body everywhere. Your mind has been corrupted by seeing slim and skinny fit degeneracy on everyone for the past 15 years. Real men wear loose pants, because they need lots of room to move around in. Also, for guys with big calves, bootcut is a great option.

>>18473001
That looks like complete shit

>>18473001
N

>>18473211
And what doesn't look like complete shit?

Maybe it’s just because I’ve gotten fatter but for me, straight fit jeans feel slimmer and slimmer cut while looser has gotten looser and looser. Finding actually straight fit pants that fit comfortably has gotten impossible.

>>18472998
Indeed. Some places even do a 30s cut without the back cinch.

>>18472998
It also completely depends on how tall you are, how thick your leg muscles are, and your torso length relative to your legs

>>18473254
facts. at the end of the day it's all about pairing it to your body.
if your body's outside the norm sometimes you just have to go outside the realm of ready to wear.
with jeans you can go full custom. fitted underground will make any type of jeans you want. bridge of time. BUT getting custom jeans to look good is 100% dependent on you getting the measurements you think you want right. so tailoring a few pairs of pants until you get a pair you really like before going full blown custom if you still feel like you want to is what i'd recommend, for all guys 'outside the norm' in one way or another.

>>18473251
true -- same for 20's silhouettes without the suspender rivets sometimes.
the more fashion forward zoomer denim brands and ig makers are actually bringing back back cinches right now so it doesn't even feel slightly old timey these days -- but it is a decidedly much more casual look.

>>18473250
repro sized up 1-2 is what you want if you want straight fits on the relaxed to loose side that aren't full blown zoomer.

>>18473329
Red pill me on repro. I’m not familiar.

>>18472992 (OP)
do non fashion faggots even wear jeans anymore? it feels like they got out of fashion like 10-20 years ago. I unironically havent seen any men, maybe other than boomers wear those.

>>18473250
wrangler cowboy cut sized up 1-2 in the waist

>>18475289
Then what do they wear if not jeans?

>>18475295
chinos or whatever I dont fucking know. you guys live in your own fashion bubble on the internet you dont even know whats going on in the real world.

>>18475299
Eh, plenty of people still wear jeans. Until a couple of years ago it was mostly joggers and shorts, but jeans have actually made a comeback because of zoomers reviving the 90's and y2k "aesthetic". So if anything normal jeans in high rise and straight and wide legs are more popular now than they've ever been since the mid 2000's. Even mall brands are selling non-slim jeans in high rise these days.

>>18472992 (OP)
Regular and straight are the same thing.

>>18473338
tl;dr reproductions of old jeans.
modern fits = skinny millenial shit or ultra baggy zoomer shit. repro is the way to get a normal ass straight cut these days.

>Denim has a long history that spans over three centuries now. It has gone from a true workwear staple used only by those who needed it to a fabric that has been embraced by the general population and has spawned a whole movement of enthusiasts that enable sites like this to exist. It seems that many periods of history in America can be defined by the prevalent style of denim (mostly by the Big Three: Levi’s, Wrangler, and Lee). That legacy lives on today, where certain styles of jeans are explicitly modeled after specific years in denim: 1947, 1954, 1966, etc.
>There are a multitude of distinct styles and production standards from each time period that have all influenced the jeans jeans we see today. Some enthusiast denim brands have gone so far as to recreate certain jeans from a bygone era, or even based their whole brand behind recreating these jeans. The whole idea behind this repro denim has slowly grown and become more common with some brands producing jeans that are as close to the real vintage jean as possible.

>>18475289
yes you flyover laggard.
selvedge denim has had a major resurgence the last few years and every mens fashion influencer under the age of 40 is calling it the next big trend again.
the shit people were wearing in 2010 isn't trending though. leave your naked and famouses in the drawer. its straight, loose and baggy silhouettes like y2k, 90s, and the traditional silhouettes those decades referenced like 30's/40's/50's. look at yuremane and ktwo studios for examples.

>>18475299
clueless post.
if you don't understand why you should ignore this guy look up the 'diffusion of innovation theory'
you're a late adopter/laggard. you're always out of the loop, wear what's safe and as a result you're never fashionable. why do you even post on fashion boards?

anyone making statements like this
>I unironically havent seen any men, maybe other than boomers wear those.
you can instantly dismiss their opinions as late majority/laggards. you can just tell from the way this is worded the person writing it is risk-averse, probably dresses really bland and probably is not considered fashionable by anyone. they're either just trying to fit in and not really interested in fashion, or really out of the loop.
there's nothing wrong with that but fashion forums get clogged up with their useless opinions. i don't understand why people who have never once pushed the envelope, wore a fit they weren't sure would land, taken a risk, etc think their opinion has much value in communities centered around trend setters.
newfags need to be told to lurk instead of post more often.

>>18475334
Fashion moves in cycles, so when you are in the very last segment of the "laggards" you are already an innovator.
>le brOOOOngbacker
>"what do you do in life" "I brOOOOng back"
>"innovator"

Nah

>>18472998
No one cares schizo. When will you get a job? Pathetic loser. I could kill you with a single punch. Gonna cry?