How to avoid hitting the wall in your 30s?

> finasteride
> minoxidil
> tretinoin
The holy trinity plus not getting fat is as good as it will get

>>18476422
and sunscreen

>>18476398 (OP)
His skin still looks good, it's just an unflattering picture on the right.

>>18476398 (OP)
Dont be white

>>18476431
you really have to go back to when you were born and avoid the sun and never be in it without sun screen, if your mom let you run around as a child without it, you are fucked

>>18476422
How come zoomers and millennials who have been taking this shit since birth look like shit yet men of the past look great without pumping their bodies with toxic shit? Makes you think

>>18476422
It looks like he got older from losing weight tho?

>>18476477
Stress and chronic masturbation. Everyone has some sort of addiction these days be it drugs, alcohol, porn, video games, food, etc.

>>18476398 (OP)
this is how i fucking feel

>>18476422
fuck finasteride. i keep seeing threads on /pol/ of people who either lost their sexual desire or want to an hero from how much it screwed them up. stay away, not worth it. just go full joe rogan, better that then a half way tranny

>>18476522
>lost their sexual
sounds like a bonus for me

>>18476474
nah, it can really make a big difference. my sister used to give 0 fucks about sun, then some raccoon style stains appeared under her eyes, like 2 years later and taking care of sun exposure it almost vanish, not at all but maybe like 90%, sleep, stress and food play a big role also.

>I'm almost 31
>People still think I'm 25 but it's just because I'm 5'5 I don't actually look young facially
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>18476422
If you have a personality disorder (mild autism or Asperger’s for example) you have an incredibly high chance for a bad side effect from fin

>>18476743
dumb fear mongering
I'm 100% autistic adjacent and I'm fine taking dut every day with no sides

>>18476431
Oh yeah. Sunscreen too.

>>18476477
I’m 32 and have been doing this regime since 26. I would say I look late 20s so to me, it works. No I won’t post face on 4chan so don’t even ask.

>>18476497
I mean if you’re gaunt or have thin skin then you’ll look aged so it depends just how much weight you lose and how but as a general rule 8% to 18% body fat is pretty much healthy. Much more or much less and you risk looking like fat old man or a meth head. Could be he was dehydrated because he just got off a plane or lacked sleep from a bender or maybe he’s doing amphetamines. Who knows?

>>18476522
People think finasteride is a tranny drug and it’s true that MtF trannies use it but that’s only because men who want to be women don’t want to be bald women. I haven’t had any sides with finasteride personally but every person will have to weigh the stated pros and cons for themselves. I think permanent sides are bullshit though. That doesn’t even make physiological sense.

>>18476743
I don’t see how that could possibly be true. What physiological mechanism could do that?

>>18476736
I’d rather people think I’m 31 than be 5’5

>>18476474
The sun isn't the problem, just stop eating goyslop.

>>18476422
I've been taking 1 mg of fin 3x/week for the past year, and it did its magic, so I don't have to take Minox, right? Do I need to take tretinoin every day or EOD? I have been on and off of tret for the past 2 years and not very consistent.

>>18476522
Post-Finasteride Syndrome is real. Look it up.

>>18476422
> finasteride
> minoxidil
> tretinoin
Take that shit if you want to become a suicidal depressed tranny cuck with erectile dysfunction and short attention span. That poison is produced by Big Pharma Jews and Indians and they target white men online through paid shills. Criminal scum that should be imprisoned forever.

>>18477366
post a pic of urself

>>18477366
people can just be greedy, it's not always a race thing.

>>18477371
I've already done that several times before.

>>18477374
>all "greedy people" just happen to be Jews, Indians and Freemasons.

>>18477375
you not doing it again to prove you're not sour grapes is suspicious

>>18477378
You know who I am. I posted in the balding thread about a month ago. My hairline hasn't changed since then. Jews are psychos who have a tendency to persecute, harass and even kill anyone who opposes them so I don't want to post any more pictures of myself for my own safety.

>>18477278
The worst thing you could do is be inconsistent, especially with minoxidil. That could literally kill you. If fin has worked and you don’t need to regrow hair there is no reason to take minoxidil. As for tretinoin, just see a derm, tell them you’re going to take it for anti-aging, ask for a prescription and dose.

>>18477393
>especially with minoxidil
it's harmless if you do topical

>>18477393
Well, prescription isn't my problem; I can get it easily.

>>18477403
Do people really take oral minoxidil for androgenic alopecia? That sh*t is a very potent vasodilator and may f*ck your CVS in the long term.

>>18477403
That’s objectively not true. It has known side effects and they can be quite serious.

This is a 40 year old man

Chuds r so mad that dutasteride works…. yes being bald and ugly is a choice

All of my signs of aging are around my eyes. I look tired, have bags, the skin looks thin, have lines kinda like crows feet on the bottom eyelids. I don’t know what to do about it because you can’t use tretinoin around your eyes.

>>18477822
Fraxel laser or micro needling

>>18477891
How tf am I supposed to microneedle my eyelid?

>>18477897
just DOIT

>>18476398 (OP)
left looks more faggy, wym?

>>18477822
>because you can’t use tretinoin around your eyes.
I still do it

>>18477366
tretinoin is literally a godlike chemical and literally a vitamin-a derivative so i think you're just full of shit

where get tretinoin>>18478088

>>18478056
it is from the movie Queer, but right looks like aids

>>18477822
You can use it on your eyelids, I've done for almost ten years

>>18478258
Alldaychemist

>>18478064
>>18478335
Good way to go blind

>>18478382
i'm not the other guy that uses it on his eyelids
just on the area around my eyes (corners and places where you'd get eyebags)
don't see the harm in that

You will age as you age, fighting it is pointless.

There are some things you can do to manage your appearance though.
=========
1. Don't get fat
2. Avoid alcohol/smoking
3. Manage stress
4. Stay hydrated
5. Shit men won't do (Skincare, grooming products)
6. Make sure you dress for your maturity
Kids in suits look ridiculous and so do 40 year olds in sloppy sweats

>>18476522
>just go full joe rogan
If I was bald, this is what I'd post. Constantly.
I'd want others to suffer with me.

>>18476890
sun is literally the problem, koreans and japanese consume almost nothing but processed food from 7-11s and have flawless skin. What do they do? avoid the sun entirely. The sun is the absolute worst possible thing you can do to your skin

I really believe the single most important thing is consistent and quality sleep. When I don’t sleep well, I look like I aged 10 years the next day.

>>18479546
Koreans and Japanese eat fish, not American garbage.

>>18476398 (OP)
Make friends. Find people who genuinely love you. Invest in these relationships. live a long and full life. Die old knowing you had the privilege of feeling love in your lifetime.

>>18476398 (OP)
Ok but serious answer is avoid the sun stay hydrated don't do drugs don't smoke get enough sleep manage stress levels and take glutathione.

>>18476422
nah just be low stress, get your vitamin d and you won't bald in the first place.
i'm nearly 40, worked outside without sunscreen and chain smoked my whole life and i look younger than every zoomer on this board. i have proven it in previous threads to universal agreement.

>>18476522
>>18477301
they don't tell you the side effects are permanent. i've had two friends kill themselves from fin.

>>18476776
>physiological mechanism
word choice shows you have no clue what you're talking about. pharmacokinetics is the term you're looking for. psychology isn't even the right field of study for that question lmfaoooooo.
i fucking hate redditor midwits who act like they know it all but know nothing. peak dunning kreuger in effect.

>>18479536
>I'd want others to suffer with me.
what an ironic statement from a troon trying to groom people onto meds that carry a suicide risk.

>>18479769
>don't do drugs
ehhhh i did like a gram of coke every weekday and blew a ball every weekend consistently through my 20's, chain smoked 2 packs a day, usually polished off a fifth and a couple grams of weed with it. i'm talking every single day i used to sell dope so it was basically free.
but at the same time i've seen drugs fucking roach people in under a year.
genetics + hydration + what drugs you use are a big factor imo. meth never once.

>>18476776
oh i apologize i thought you said psychological.
you're still a braindead midwit. "the mechanism isn't known therefore it doesn't exist" reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetard

>>18476522
>>18477301

I'm mid-30s but look mid-20s. The secret is avoid the sun. Get a good sunscreen

>>18479801
Fuck I just went out today without it. Feel like an idiot now, I use to always wear it too

>>18479878
it's over

>>18476398 (OP)
i prefer the right
he should grow some scruff (not beard) for a sexy daddy look

>>18476477
People don't want to hear it but I really think weed is a big part. I'm 39 and Norwood 2, my dad is still about the same but very thinned at 78, but my younger brother was a 3 by 21 and a 5 at 35. The only major difference between us is that he's been smoking multiple bowls daily since he was 14 or so. If anything he's eaten a better diet and had less stress than me too, since I moved out after college and had to deal with work, life, and relationship stress and eating shitty, while he was at home until just a few months ago and never had to worry about money or anything.

>>18479510
underrated comment

>>18476422
> finasteride
> minoxidil
> tretinoin
Americans be like “oh boy! now I can spend all my money on overpriced pharmaceuticals instead of excerising basic restraint! This is sure to fix my life!”

>>18479546
Nigga, their processed "slop" from 7-11s is better than the "healthy" food you eat in America. East Asian and American food and eating habits are incomparable.

>>18476398 (OP)
This isn't 30 vs 31. This is good picture vs bad picture.
But to answer the question, this >>18476422
plus sunscreen/avoiding the sun.

>>18476477
Where the fuck did you get the idea that men of the past looked great?

Glutathione + Vitamin C IV treatment and red light therapy and face yoga

>>18476477
>yet men of the past look great

men of the past look great because their pictures were airbrushed, you fucking retard.

>>18476776
>People think finasteride is a tranny drug and it’s true that MtF trannies use it but that’s only because men who want to be women don’t want to be bald women.
This. They aren't taking fin because they're trannies, its because they're balding men kek.

>>18481139
>all my money
I spent 100 a year on fin and I have been a nw2 for 10 years since I was 32

>>18479510
>manage stress
sorry that's impossible
I'm 30 so I know that

>>18476398 (OP)
Don't get a job

>>18476398 (OP)
This kind of face is from over training.
The guy probably runs 3 hours a week or more.
I never belived in the whole bullshit of cardio training. You are just using your body and joints. You can stay thin just by controlling your calories intake.

indian shills get paid to shill finasteride, dutasteride and spironolactone on /fa/
they also spam anti white threads every day
their goal is to make you castrate yourself or kill yourself

>Studies have found penile shrinkage and other sexual dysfunctions to be a side effect of finasteride and dutasteride, common anti-baldness medications.
>Control groups that received dutasteride (C + D) or finasteride (C + F) showed a reduced cross-sectional penile area (39.4% and 40.1%, respectively) compared to Group C.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6116690/

"Research finds finasteride causes penis shrinkage in rats"
>A new study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine finds that male rats receiving oral finasteride treatment for four weeks had a 25% reduction in the weight of their penis (corpora cavernosa).
Effects of oral finasteride on erectile function in a rat model:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22375859/

>Rodents have long been the preferred species of lab animals in biomedical research, with sporadic experiments on common brown rats stemming back 150 years. Though laboratory animal research continues to pose ethical questions, particularly with respect to animal welfare, the scientific achievements linked to lab rats are innumerous. This primarily relates to the extraordinary anatomical, genetic, and physiological similarities between humans and rodents.

- well established that finasteride reduces the size of the prostate, which is also male reproductive tissue by 20%.
- well established that penile tissue in humans is responsive to dht.
- rodent studies are showing penile tissue (the same kind as prostate tissue) shrinks by roughly the same amount.

Merck produces 70% of Finasteride worldwide.

Israel Innovation makes up half of Merck healthcare revenue, top official says.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/merck-ceo-sees-firms-future-intertwined-with-israels/

Merck CEO sees firm’s future intertwined with Israel’s
https://www.timesofisrael.com/merck-ceo-sees-firms-future-intertwined-with-israels/

Merck Researchers intentionally withheld research leading to over 40,000 deaths: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/333345573/#333345573

Rabbi explaining who he thinks “Amalek” is and what must be done to them.
https://files.catbox.moe/9jvnie.mp4

Rabbi explaining that 6.5 billion people are idol worshippers—including Christians—and therefore do not deserve to live according to the TORAH (NOT the Talmud!)
https://files.catbox.moe/5g1bbl.mp4

Rabbi explaining that there is a commandment in the TORAH (NOT the Talmud!) to genocide all descendants of “Amalek”—men, women, and children—and apparently, “Amalek” is evil because they represent “doubt”.
https://files.catbox.moe/1zyi33.mp4

Rabbi crying about “white supremacy” in one breath and in the next breath explaining how he understands that the TORAH (NOT the Talmud!) has a military commandment to destroy “Amalek”.
https://files.catbox.moe/owbl7v.mp4

1,030 jewish expulsions through history:
https://files.catbox.moe/6fxutv.mp4

The only way to not continuously have to fight your enemy generation after generation is to debase them in spirit, mind, and body. Do that, and eventually you won't have to fight them anymore because they'll no longer exist. This is the Jewish strategy.

>>18476398 (OP)
good pic vs bad pic

right has bad lighting, shit focal lenght on the phone cam lens, bad angle for him. He is squintfrauding on the left