why are they so bad at fashion? Before someone post cowboy outfits, no one here actually wears it

>>18486582 (OP)
What do you mean. Graphic tshirts, cargo shorts, baseball caps and sandals and socks are the peak of fashion.

>>18486582 (OP)
Most of the country outside the major cities has no access to anything better than mall-tier clothing stores. Only so much you can do when you're so limited. Yes, you can buy online, but there's no way to know if shit will fit you right and returning stuff if it doesn't is more hassle than it's worth for a lot of people.

>No one wears cowboy clothes
You're wrong.
>Why are they so bad at fashion?
They define fashion for what is common. They set the standard. Again, you're wrong.

>>18486582 (OP)
Hot and high humidity

>>18486582 (OP)
The temperature makes you're options limited. You're better off working out and wearing lounge wear

>>18486582 (OP)
This has got to be bait

>>18486607
>you're wrong
t.

>>18486731
>>you're wrong
>t. flyest sonofagun east of the mississippi

>>18486582 (OP)
How in the fuck is Maryland and Delaware considered part of the South??

>>18487195
I'm guessing by the frog cartoon and your question that you were very poorly educated. Google Mason Dixon Line or ask a fourth grader about it.

>>18487196
non american, so never learned any of this

>>18486582 (OP)
>No one wears cowboy clothes
What the fuck do you think jeans are? The entire world wears cowboy clothes.

>>18487195
>>18487197
to be clear they're traditionally southern states but effectively aren't any more, kind of like how kentucky and west virginia were traditionally northern states but effectively aren't any more.
Imo map just needs to include Missouri to be the full spread of plausibly southern states all wrapped up into one.

>>18486582 (OP)
Low incomes, limited options, shitty climate, and a culture-wide lack of fucks given.

>>18486582 (OP)
I always forget where Missouri, Michigan and Illinois acyually are on a map. In my head I picture
>Illinois where Michigan is
>Michigan where Missouri is
>Missouri where S. Dakota is

>>18487246
>Misidentify Michigan
How?
It's "the Great Lakes" state. It's nearly surrounded by the Great Lakes. If you look at a map of the U.S.A., it's the state nestled against those very large lakes.
Plus it's shaped like left-handed mitten.
>It's because it's spelled with an "M" like a lot of states and I'm an immigrant from Cuba living in Florida.
Oh.

>>18486582 (OP)
It's too fucking hot to wear anything nice
There's maybe 3 states out of 50 that have good weather

>>18486582 (OP)
My word, another Yankee pleb. Bless your heart son

Don't lump Maryland in with the south, fucktard.

>>18487357
this but delaware is ok

>>18487195
>>18487197
Marylander here. The only reason our state didn't secede from the union and join the confederacy is because the union/federal government held the cities hostage. Maryland was a slave holding state, and a lot of our culture is still southern, but nowadays Maryland is more of a mixture between the north and south. Traditionally whenever the southern states got together to politically powwow Maryland is always included.

>>18486604
>Yes, you can buy online, but there's no way to know if shit will fit you right and returning stuff if it doesn't is more hassle than it's worth for a lot of people.
just measure carefully

>>18487369
>Just a DC boy!
>Spreading the harm.
>Making all the laws but that's just a lil more than the states will allow.
Yeehaw partner.

MD is honestly a very southern state on the eastern shore. It's pretty conservative socially.

>>18487240
If Maryland isn't Southern then it's north eastern which isn't something anyone is willing to accept.

>>18487447
Baltimore County resident here, I accept being Northeastern.

>>18487452
>>18487447
It's a mixture of both the northeastern corridor and the south. In my experience people who know Maryland history and travel outside of the metropolitan area will say Southern. People who just stay within the Baltimore and DC areas say North.
Our state song was a confederate song until they got rid of it in like 2021, along with all of those statues of old slave owners that were put up throughout the state to intimidate black people.

>>18486582 (OP)
OK belongs to the Midwest. TX is its own thing.
As for fashion, jeans and cowboy boots are ubiquitous where I live. On top its a 50/50 chance of a golf polo or a pearl snap, then another 50/50 chance of a baseball cap or cowboy hat. Usually its polo+baseball hat, pearl snap + cowboy hat, but not always.

>>18486582 (OP)
>why are they so bad at fashion?
The entire world dresses like us so much you don't even notice it.

>>18486604
I live in a metro of 150k and we have a Kohl’s and a TJ Maxx. That’s it.

>>18487195
It always strikes me as funny when people not from the Mid-Atlantic think Delaware and Maryland aren’t southern at all. Everyone in Pennsylvania and New Jersey knows they’re a lot more southern than they are.

>>18487240
The fact that anyone considers Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico, or Arizona “the South” is so retarded.

>>18487621
Yeah, I'm in about the same size area and it's not much better. We're a big outdoor tourism spot so we've got a Patagonia store, a Fjallraven store, tons of ski and fly fishing shops that sell clothes for that stuff, some boutiques for rich bitches that want to larp as cowgirls, etc. but options are very limited for regular clothes. We do have a Macy's but it's tiny and leans heavily toward outdoor brands as well.

>>18487447
maryland is the border between north and south. Some people would gawk at calling delaware southern but it's in your same boat. Heck, looks like some retards call Pennsylvania southern, l m a o. Clearly maryland and west virginia are where north and south meet.

>>18487544
>OK belongs to the Midwest. TX is its own thing.
Texas is THE southern state. Oklahoma is little texas. Both are southern. absolutely nobody would call oklahoma midwest lmao

>>18487626
to be fair they're talking about numbers in the "1 to 20 or so people" range. India, Illinois, and Kansas are stereotyped identically to southerners so some people just assume, and there's a historical claim to az and nm from the CSA that many people still support. Pennsylvania and ohio though I can't even pretend to defend. I guess some people heard pennsyltucky and... felt prejudiced that moment?

>>18487699
Lol, lmao, in what universe is Texas "the" southern state?

>>18487703
there is no world where you're defending texas being anything other than solidly southern, I do not believe it.

>>18487722
Do you have any idea how big Texas is? Los Angeles to El Paso is closer than El Paso to Houston. Its bigger than every European country sans Russia, and more geographically diverse. Its too big to be any one thing and it sure as shit isn't "the" southern state (my vote goes to MS or GA. LA is too French).

East Texas is the south. North Texas and the panhandle is the southern edge of the plains and have more in common with (God forgive me) Oklahoma than with Houston. Everything south of DFW and west of the I35 is different varieties of Southwest. Ranging from cowboy-lite in Austin/San Antionio to straight up north Mexico further south.

>>18487748
I love in Texas, in DFW, lived in Amarillo (worst place on earth, and San Antonio.
Texas is just Ohio but hotter. It's completely devoid of any culture whatsoever. All Texas is is endless suburbs, strip malls and parking lots.

>>18487748
>>18487773
you retards are really judging it by the parking lots and yankees in the cities instead of the people that have been there for generations. Unbelievable.

>>18487722
Everything west of Tyler is the southwest
>>18487748

Oklahoma is just an extension of north Texas with Indian casinos. Nothing like the Midwest. Tulsa reminds me of Austin before it became a trendy tech bro fag town.
>>18487773
>Texas is just Ohio but hotter

Those states are completely different. Ohio doesn't even have Mexicans, taco bell is all they got. I can't think of anything similar and I spent 4 years suffering in Ohio.

>>18487722
Texas is a mix of the south and southwest. Its massive. It has its own culture separate from the greater South.

>>18486582 (OP)
I'm literally wearing a cowboy outfit right now, retard.

>>18486582 (OP)
Because having a blue collar job and a lifted superduty is what people with status do in the south. Everyone else looks like a fag.

>>18488343
I'm imagining some hick pecking away at a beige computer from the 50's right now, lol. You southerners are like clowns.

>>18488343
You wear spurs? Thinking of getting some very small ones just because I like the jingle.

>>18488394
I ride a horse to work.

>>18487195
these people are from delaware

in the original 13 colonies wealth was fairly concentrated in wealthy families that had moved from europe. these continued to be the upper class for most of american history and their wealth expanded with industrialization and colonialism after american independence. this cultural class you can call Yankees. over time some new money joined the old money, guys like carnegie. but for the most part new money had to sort of adapt to the old money ways and overall the east coast industrialists turned out just like the older yankees in dress and culture. in a lot of ways yanks were just europeans.

much of the south never economically recovered from the civil war and it's upper class, that somewhat resembled the yanks prewar, began to decay. the real wealth creation in the south didn't happen until oil and natural gas started being drilled in texas. suddenly the wealthy there were guys who just owned lots of farm land, once-settlers who had moved west and didn't necessarily ever posses any wealth, and certainly not the kind of prep school wealth the yanks had. newly minted millionaires were never exposed to prep school or matching leather or any of the preppy menswear stuff you still hear about now.

these new rich men from texas had the wealth to impact culture and politics and preserving and increasing their wealth was a driving force in their politics. there were maximum quotas for oil extraction and the party unified around raising them. basically with southern money entering politics the yankees were finally challenged and with this power shift came an end to yankee dominance in culture.

the yank aesthetic was oppulent but less showy. yanks hung out with other yanks and all did yank shit together. texans got rich and were still surrounded by poor texans and the oppulence was a bit less... subtle. precursor to the mcmansions and bullshit of today, stuff that's uniquely american.

tl;dr basically blame texan oil money for the walmart fashion of today.

>>18488455
our estranged brothers and cousins... not gonna survive til the south rises again, I reckon

>>18488459
>this cultural class you can call Yankees.
lol this smells of revisionism

>>18489032
you can look it up in the dictionary, i didnt make that up. new england/13 colony/east coast ( see: yankees ) culture was driven by their upper class of euro transplants with money and rising industrialists.

>>18486582 (OP)
Doesn't florida have decent fashion?

>>18487702
Even Pennsyltucky is a bullshit meme. Pennsyltucky includes State College, Lancaster, York, Harrisburg, Williamsport, Scranton, and Wilkes-Barre. Pennsylvania is very urbanized.

>>18489040
you're spouting complete bullshit and you know it, it was always associated with new england.

>>18489040
half of the 13 colonies were southern states and yankee is a term that has always referred to new england... how about you look it up instead pal

>>18489046
Lol, lmao.

>>18487214
I have never worn jeans or cotton twill commonly known as denim in my entire lifespan and I never will

>>18490240
I'm skeptical. What age did you make this commitment? What did your family think?

>>18487748
This nigga kinda gets it. I grew up in San Antonio, lived in College Station and currently live in Abilene. I also have lots of family in Alabama and Arizona so im very acquainted with the deep south and southwest. Once you hit pine trees in Texas, youre in the south. Abilene down to San Angelo down to Del Rio and west is the southwest. San Antonio, DFW, houston and Austin are their own things. SA is the best of those but im biased. Dfw is just another city and so is houston except its swampy. Fuck austin

The influence of maybe like 3-5 states has on the rest of world makes up for the rest. Don't be dishonest because the euros are similar

>>18489046
Absolutely not

>>18486582 (OP)
Function over form