Where can I get a half-decent affordable suit that's not made of plastic?

>>18491329 (OP)
What's "affordable"?

your local second hand clothes app and a tailor for adjustments

>>18491329 (OP)
Saigon or Saville Row. Not worth anything in between unless you have personal connections you can strengthen or want a real long-term relationship with the tailor.

>>18491329 (OP)
at U****o

>>18491329 (OP)
thrift store

>>18491329 (OP)

>>18491345 is the correct answer. Look at the material tag and avoid anything that isn't 100% wool or cotton or linen. Next look at fit, you need the jacket to fit your shoulders and have the jacket in your length. The pants need to at least make it around your waist and close, there's usually a couple of inches of seam play there. Everything else will likely be able to be adjusted to your body like sleeves and hem length.

>>18491404
By 100% wool, or linen you can have a blend, say 60 wool and 40 linen
But no polyester

>>18491345
If have a local church, checking out the sermon and visiting the clothes room afterward is also an option. Most are more than happy to move clothes they've been sitting on for years.

>>18491329 (OP)
Macy's

>>18491453
Are you implying we should mix fabrics?

>>18491331
wow! avril lavigne is such a queen

>>18491491
>pic
This is the first time I'm seeing New Age "chakra frequencies" voodoo mixed with Abrahamic religions. Usually New Age types are "spiritual but non-religious".
>>18491486
I checked their suits sorting from high to low and they all seem to be polyester blends. Maybe Macy's online is different than Macy's stores. Speaking of mall suits, I know I saw sub-$500 100% wool suits at Banana Republic and Massimo Dutti so they might be an option if there are no thrift stores around.

>>18491453
Yeah that's fine as well, though I'm not knowledgeable about what constitutes a good blend, just avoid the polyester and the rayon. Of course 100% natural fibers isn't a guarantee of quality, but it does usually make it higher quality and more comfortable than a suit made of polyester. I would also avoid spandex personally even if its theoretically more comfortable since it breaks down easily.
>>18491518
Honestly if you're looking for decent suits in that price range a real men's store/ haberdashery will provide a better product hands down for a lot less frustration than trying to play the thrift game, even if you can't beat buying a whole suit that fits for under $15 at goodwill when you find the right sizes and materials. Alternatively, look on eBay, but you need to know your sizes already.

>>18491663
Never get anything with spandex in it, let alone a suit. Spandex blended bullshit stretches out over time and destroys the shape and fitting of the clothing item. If you need spandex in your suit, then it's too tight. Stop wearing slim fit suits. You'll only going to end up looking like a poorfag who couldn't afford a properly fitting suit so he's wearing hand me downs from his younger brother. A suit should be well-fitting but also roomy enough to drape on your body without wrinkling everywhere and being skintight.

>>18491329 (OP)
Savile Row or bust

>>18491329 (OP)
j crew used to have a decent entry level suit line
all wool

>>18491329 (OP)
>>18491663

try ebay, get your measurements, ask the seller questions about those measurements, fabric mix, etc

there might be a bit of trial and error but once you find a brand that fits you, look for other suits in that brand
i just got this pure wool suit for 90 bucks

>>18491453
a wool-poly blend is tolerable, but absolutely no polyester in your dress shirts

Suitsupply is fairly decent for the price. Vintage is an option but might be time consuming or hit-or-miss

>>18491668
Sadly a lot of even mid priced suits have spandex in there for some reason.

>>18491766
Because modern suits are slim fit, so they need that stretch in the fabric, or else they would be unwearable.

>>18491663
>avoid rayon
Have you ever found a suit with rayon as part of the main fabric?
And if you're including lining materials you'll have to spend north of 3000USD/EUR to find a silk lined suit.

>>18491687
If it's from next you overpaid mate.

>>18491329 (OP)
what is the tie style called that he is wearing there? Searching for abstract or geometric tie does not give me this same style... hard to put in words

>>18491329 (OP)
As >>18491345 has said, your only option is to go secondhand.
Good suits are not made today, just the same as good top hats or tricorn hats are not made today. Anything of that nature that is made today can only be found in halloween costume stores, and suits made today are quickly approaching the level of quality of a halloween costume.

Even the highest grade stuff, speaking of Saville Row.. they are no good. They are show pieces, the suits of the past were normal clothes, made to wear, those high end tailors, despite all their talent, are incapable of replicating this sense of everyday regularity in their suits.
To make a comparisan, it is like buying a pair of Converse, and comparing it to those high-end fashion shoes that look like Converse, I don't know their names, I'm sure you've seen them. The former are regular shoes while the latter, despite being of high quality, are show pieces and cannot be comfortably worn on the regular, and so in this way are inadequate.

>>18491975
A lot of that is because the fabrics have changed. No one wants or needs heavy weight wools since HVAC became nearly ubiquitous globally. Back then light weight wools were called tropical weight- now nearly all modern suit wools are those tropical weights or lighter. There's supposedly a small handful of mills producing the vintage fabrics but very few do.

>>18491486
Not anymore. Everything's blended now. You'd have to go back at least a decade.

>>18491887
1: the shells pure wool,
2: i'm a rare size so ebay has pretty slim pickings for me
3: i just like the style

i've had jackets from next before, they fit me well enough so i specifically went looking for suits from next knowing their sizing is gonna be consistent
i've had mishaps before with suits that were listed as my "size" but were too big when they arrived
its nice to have that assurance

plus i found a proper vintage in navy pinstripe for like half the price so it evens out

>internet says small slim body = thin lapels
>internet says big wide face = wide lapels
What's the most flattering lapel width if I'm both? I got two suits with different lapel widths and I'm not sure which one to keep based on my body proportions.

>>18492852
pick the lapels that compliment your torso
pick the shirt collar that compliments your face
problem solved

>>18492852
Good suit ensemble design is confusing and full of either contradictions or conditional statements that are impossible to nail down completely- so here I'm going to make things even worse.

Principle job of the suit should be to draw your eye up to your face, so you want things proportional and not sticking out or the eye gets drawn to that feature, meanwhile, you want your suit to downplay negatives and accentuate positive characteristics of your body. See the attached pictures which are from "Dressing the man", considered one of the gold standard pieces for dressing well in a suit.

As for lapels, from Allan Flusser's "Clothes and the man", He basically states in that the lapel width should be proportionate to the jacket, slightly less than halfway between the collar and the shoulder line, generally 3 1/2 inches. In "Dressing the man" published 17 years later he states that it should be 2/5's to 3/5th the distance between collar and shoulder, but states it results in a notch lapel of about 3 3/8 to 4 1/4 inches. I would probably go with the "slightly less than half".

He says to use the jacket shoulder to frame the face, but didnt elaborate much about the shoulders beyond being proportionate and preferring natural-shoulder cuts.

>>18492930
2/2
>>18492920
Collar types just have to match your tie knot width, you can use whatever you want.

>>18491329 (OP)
Goodwill then you go to the tailor

>>18492920
This advice, which so many menswear enthusiasts have parroted is the worst thing ever.

Most people have a long face, that's what all humans faces generally look like unless you're 400 lbs, and so it happens, 99% of people are directed towards the horrendous cutaway collar, as that is the compliment to the long face.

The collar, when properly shaped, forms a geometric pattern with the shape of the tie and the shape of the lapels, this is what you should be focussed on when you put together a shirt, tie, and jacket, the abstract design it forms on your chest, not the way it compliments your face, because that's just totally bogus

>>18492852
This is also another piece of terrible misguided advice that has served to only push people away from good style

You can be skinny and wear big lapels and still look good.
But you cannot be skinny and wear small lapels, nor can you be big and wear small lapels, basically small lapels look stupid and should never be worn. But because most people are slimmer than they are fat, this advice gears everyone towards tiny slim lapels

Suit supply makes pretty good stuff. They finally got away from the god aweful 2010‘s Silhouettes. Get the straight ft not the slim trousers though

>>18491329 (OP)
Your grandpa's wardrobe