WATCH THREAD
WATCH THREAD
WATCH THREAD

The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.
If kofe time posts, just ignore him. He’s traumatized from a lifetime of being bullied.
Keep that shit in /wt/.

>Your budget
>Preferred brand or manufacture
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread: >>18498153

You may not like it, but this is the best watch.

>>18502661
perfect watch is just a Rolex knock off?

>7" wrist
38 or 42mm murph?

>>18502659 (OP)
Post your favorite watch based on lume quality

>>18502670
Time only watches with no functional bezel should always be under 40mm.

>>18502704
In general, I agree, but there are specific exceptions. Panerai, for example, just don’t look right in small sizes. Pilot watches are another design that is supposed to be large.

Something, like a field watch, though, definitely should stick around 36-37mm

>>18502714
There are literally zero exceptions.

>>18502714
Nothing about a panerai requires being as huge as they are. There are 1000m divers smaller than the 300m panerais.

>>18502715
>There are literally zero exceptions.
TIL it is possible for anon to tell the world he’s autistic with just a single sentence.

>>18502720
>Nothing about a panerai requires being as huge as they are.
Historical accuracy.
Panerai started making wrist watches in the 1930s using pocket watch movements, hence the large cases. Whether you like the brand or not is irrelevant (I personally dislike their models), Panerai is part of the horological history and deserves respect.
You can't seethe at 41mm Datejust and then ask for 36mm Radiomir.

>>18502726
Yeah and they thought they had to be that huge back then. But they don't so nobody does that anymore.

>tfw you wear a gold omega to a little girl's birthday party and one of her gifts is a swatch
>tfw you're both wearing watches from the same company

>>18502788
midwit nerd

>>18502930
Where's the lie though?

>>18502788
picrel

>>18502661
What makes it so good? QRD?

>>18502981
Omega and Swatch aren't the same COMPANY. They don't share the same accounting system. However, they both belong to the same CONGLOMERATE: the Swatch Group.

>>18503077
Dial made out of cum of only the best sumo wrestlers.

>>18502659 (OP)
Gonna buy another Chopard later this week.

>>18503114
I don't know much you've spent on these but I'm pretty sure you could have bought a couple of good watches instead.

>>18503220
that chronoswiss perpetual calendar is better than anything posted in these threads

>>18503234
>chronoswiss
irelevant shit brand

What do we think of the Da Vinci?

>>18503114
You should be posting in the other thread. Your attached image serves no purpose except to let everyone in this thread know who you are. That is the definition of avatarfagging.

>>18503239
>What do we think of the Da Vinci?
Some of the movements’ complications are interesting, but the case shape and lug design screams 1980’s.
Since IWC puts complicated movements in their other dressy watches too, like the Portugieser and Portofino, the only reason to opt for the Da Vinci is that odd case.

>>18503241
He DID post it in the other thread. He’s just farming yous at this point.

How much water resistance does a watch need to be able to wash it with soap under a faucet?

>>18503239
Perfect watch if you want to impress dorky boomers.

>>18503270
I got a 10atm seiko, it says in the instruction book that you cant wash it under a faucet. So i'm guessing starting from 20atm. I hate these faggot designations so fucking much they mean absolute dick.

>>18502661
sorry but i just hate line slop
its a clock, give me some numbers, even roman numerals at this point.

>>18502788
>little girl

>>18502986
not only does hunter have a giant cock, but also great taste.

>>18503083
All the swatch group companies with the exception of maybe breguet and the literally who artsy fartsy companies answer directly to swatch on what kind of watches they produce, what price ranges and markets they're vying for, etc... There's very, very little actual autonomy for the brands, they answer to the swatch hivemind.

been looking for a watch that is love at first sight
i think i have found it
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JvXZZPEqCww

>>18503319
>biomeme ultra-normie marketing gimmick watch
>great taste

>>18503325
>it CANT be good because its popular

>>18503320
>There's very, very little actual autonomy for the brands, they answer to the swatch hivemind.
I wish we had some actual documentation on this, because every time I point it out, someone accuses me of being paranoid and/or just making shit up. It’s frustrating.

Did boomers really wear these tiny dainty watches? It looks like he's borrowed his wife's watch. Ridiculous.

>>18503320
That's the whole point of acquiring companies isn't it? Telling them what to do.

What's our take on the Olympos? Good vintage dress watch reissue or tacky shitter?

>>18503345
They wore even smaller watches if you can believe it. In the early 50s when these watches came out 36mm was relatively large. It was very common for men to wear 31-34mm watches for most of the 20th century up into the 60s and 70s.

Imagine boomers in the 50s unironically bitching about the young kids coming up and buying new 36mm dinner plate oyster perpetuals and submariners.

Fell for it again award

>>18503352
Yes, ergo Swatch and Omega are from the same people. We've come full circle.
>>18503330
It's blatantly obvious if you just examine the offerings and price points of the brands. Each brand operates more as a separate rung on the way up the ladder from beginner shitters to higher levels of enthusiasm and eventually to specialized markets and luxury brands. The lower brands under omega even use off shoots of the same movement with different branding on them. They're literally the same watch movements in different cases. It's as if they are telling you "Swatch is swiss quartz shitters for kids, Certina is what a $300-500 swiss watch gets you, Hamilton is what a $500-700 swiss watch gets you, Tissot is what a $700-1000 swiss watch gets you, Longines is what $3000 gets you, omega is what $6000 gets you," etc. And omega is the first rung on that ladder that isn't cheap quartz shitters and the bubba'd ETAs in the powermatic 80 family movements. They actually run it like they're different lines in the same brand.

>>18503361
>Hi all,
>*deletes email*

>>18503362
>Yes, ergo Swatch and Omega are from the same people. We've come full circle.
Omega, Swatch (the brand) and Swatch Group (the holding) are 3 different entities. The formers are subsidiaries of the latter.
I was initially answering to this post >>18502788 which claimed Swatch and Omega are the same COMPANY, which is wrong.

>>18503362
>It's blatantly obvious if you just examine the offerings and price points of the brands.
That’s what I keep saying, and then someone asks me if I have even the slightest shred of evidence and then I just have to stand there with my corkboard and red string.

>>18502659 (OP)
Thoughts on Spiedel's? I was thinking of picking one up for something a lil light and fun.

>>18503398
>mushy pea green sped
anon i...

>>18503368
Only in the most pedantic sense. The case has already been made that the brands are curated by the same minds.

I'm looking for a digital watch that's indestructible, small, and /fa/. Love the f91w and variants, but its just too dorky to wear in public. I also have a gbx100 and love the mips display, but it's bulky and heavy (can't believe it's marketed to surfers). Might give pic related a try, but it's a bit thicker than I want and I'm a bit concerned that the negative display is too dim. No smart watches, I want this to last 1+ years on a single battery change. Any recs?

>>18503345
crown is so ridiculously big and ugly it looks like the nose on a smurf

>>18503426
>digital watch that's indestructible, small, and /fa/
pick 2

>>18503398
Just buy a swatch

>>18503345
If he didn't weigh 300 lbs it would be proportionate desu

>>18503461
It is proportionate. The only problem is he's wearing it loose.

>>18503239
Dial and movements are good but the lugs are awful.

>>18503481
could you swap them for a color matched low profile set?

but why?

>>18503522
Paul Newman did it fifty years ago and this guy didn’t understand the assignment.

>>18503522
millenial coded

>>18503354
I like the 37mm model but it's a shame they don't produce it in more colors. If they made them with a white dial with gold markers, a blue dial, a red dial to mix it up a bit, that would be nice.

I think vostok radiomir looks moderately cool.

>>18503584
Do you mean BOCK TOK?

>>18503398
to begin with it's a women's watch but if you want something funky buy a mondaine

>>18502661
I like it. It's simplistic and tasteful. It would be better as an EcoDrive watch but that extra text would ruin the dial.

>>18503584

>>18503239
I always thought this was a sexy watch, I know it’s a dress watch but it feels more like a sports watch for whatever reason.

>>18503590
>that pic
No thanks I'm not a transman

>>18503590
I've never seen more mundane watches.

>>18502659 (OP)
How do you read this watch? There are no hour markings.

Uh, so I want something to track laps when running and those bands/smartwatches seems a bit over the top.
Is there are anything you would reccomend? I don't need anything fancy but I don't want something that would break after a while.

Can you identify which brand Mahk is ripping off this time?

>>18503640
>read
"watches" like these are not meant to functional
they are moving jewelry for men to wear on their wrist.

what do we think?

>>18503664
It's a bad look even at the best of times, but if you mist make one of these at least make the dial a rare mineral with a pattern or something that's interesting to look at. This Moser just looks like you're staring down a fresh glass of baby batter.

>>18503663
Oris

>>18503663
I dig the case, it's something between a Seiko and a Heuer Carrera

>>18503398
Nice flashing on the strap.

>>18503354
I don't like the case.

If only you knew how shiny things really are.

>>18503706
Jesus what a fat gunt

For me it's the Chesterton Perpetual with the aventurine dial and heatsink caseback.

>>18503711
He's 95kg or 210 pounds.

>>18503719
GUNT

>>18503361
Thanks drumpf, now I bought a new watch

Need advise on a swiss automatic watch around 1,000 USD retail, preferably with a steel bracelet, sapphire cristal is a must. I already have a Tissot, was looking into a a Hamilton Khaki but I find them so boring and unremarkable. Thought about a CW Sealander but I don't know if you would consider that a proper swiss watch. Maybe I should settle for a Longiness quartz? I'm open to Japanese models as long as their iconic enough.

>>18503800
https://www.tissotwatches.com/en-us/men/main-collections/tissot-seastar.html?cgid=tis-men-main-collections-seastar&srule=manual-position-top-sellers-zone&prefn1=reference_filter_movement_type&prefv1=Automatic

Runs around the $800-$1100 range

What's the deal with people who build a collection of watches with nearly identical specs and functions?
>Uh yeah I have a submariner, a black bay, a seamaster 300, an aquaracer, a superocean, and a 62mas
Bruh, you bought 6 of the same watch from different brands.

>>18503816
Why do you even care zoomer faggot? Go play minecraft

>>18503640
There's four indices. If the hand is a third away from an indice +/- 1hr, not hard
>>18503664
Brainlet

>>18503241
I took the pic, I’ll post it again if it’s in the context of what I should buy next. I don’t post about my life like that weirdo in Japan. And the vast majority of my posts do not contain images.
>>18503220
What should I have bough a basedmaster instead

>>18503876
If you like ~35mm two-tone sports watches from the 80s/90s, you should get a Vacheron Constantin Phidias. That’s the ultimate watch of the breed, especially the Chronometre Royal version. It might be a little hard to find a good version and it will probably cost what you paid for the rest of your collection combined, but it’s a great watch.

>>18503663
Minase

>>18503663
Sinn 556

>>18503893
>>18503663
Sorry wrong pic, with this bracelet of course.

>>18503884
I’d buy one if it was like a grand. But for what I see there’s just other way better stuff to buy desu. I know someone on this board owns one. Is that you?

>>18503663
it looks like a mashup of this >>18503894 (dial, hands, bracelet) and pic related (case)

My AD is offering me either the Bluesy or Gold/Black Submariner at retail. This is going to be my first Rolex. Which should I go for or should I just buy a Starbucks on the grey market?

There is no lie, "Swiss" watches have been a joke for a long time.

>>18503114
It's like a nightmare from 1988.

>>18503239
It's like a nightmare from 1989.

>>18503620
>I know it’s a dress watch
You don't know that, dipshit, because it's a chronograph.

>>18503354

>second hand
>date
This is not a dress watch.

>>18503361
Swiss watches haven't been Swiss for many years, slick. Imagine thinking a Christopher Ward fake Rolex is any better than a Wing Fong fake Rolex.

>>18503963
Yes and no. The swiss historically and today always made the best watches. The issue is for every accomplished, successful, beloved and historically significant brand there are a dozen or so brands that made pure liquid shit. It's always been that way and it always will be. I guess that's true for every industry, but especially so in watches where trends run away like a speeding train until they derail and every retarded entrepreneur thinks they can chuck a cheap off the shelf movement in a knock off case, print swiss made or swiss movement on the dial and sell thousands of pieces.

>>18503114
which the Chopard Alpine Eagle?

>CHOPARD BROCCOLI!

Kofe time.

>>18503822
>hey what time is it
>>uhhh
>whats the problem does your watch not work?
>>uhhh its, ummm 7... no, 8:17... i think...
>are you fucking retarded?

What's the best wristlet-friendly chronograph under, say, $5k? I've been hunting a well-maintained Speedy Reduced (ideally the V2) but haven't had much luck. Is there anything else good in this price range or should I suck it up and stretch my budget to a Zenith or Carrera?

>>18503800
Seiko Sharp Edge series?

>>18503984
>cheap off the shelf movement
Was this always the case?

>>18504124
casio a168

>>18503981
>no second hand
>no date
Is this a dress watch?

day 19 of waiting for a no-date version of the 38mm Fifty Fathoms

>>18504171
>manual wind
>no minute track
>no complication
Undeniably a dress watch.

Bin Laden time

>>18503993
Mille Miglia monopusher

>>18504189

>>18503957
The Chinese only had Seiko cases so he had to settle, I'm sure he'd do Sinn 1:1 if he could.

>>18504171
No.

>>18504190
It's like a 1990 nightmare.

When did Omega become the chud watch?

>>18504215
Muricans seem to love Omega for some reasons. I've been to the US a couple of times and I spotted a lot more Speedmaster and Seamaster there than in Euroland.
I travel a lot in Europe (especially France, Luxembourg and Belgium) and I rarely see any Omega. Mostly Rolex and Cartier.

>>18504218
>I travel a lot in Europe (especially France, Luxembourg and Belgium)
I'm in the exact same area and you can see a few Omegas here and there, some Moonswatches (since both Paris and Bruxelles have a sales point for them) but that's kind of it.
Can confirm that Cartier and Rolex are much more common. Surprisingly Panerai too. At least more than you'd expect, I'm surprised to see them more often than JLC .Luxembourg apparently has a pretty active AD, and Paris a flagship store with a new one opening in Strasbourg too.

>>18504235
The Panerai flagship store is already open in Strasbourg. It's in the same street as the JLC, Tag, Breitling and IWC ones. They're all run by the same family.

>>18503943
>I’d buy one if it was like a grand. But for what I see there’s just other way better stuff to buy desu. I know someone on this board owns one. Is that you?
That’s the problem with all those kind of watches: they all look like cheap shit nowadays, even if the movement has a Geneva Seal.
I don’t own one, but I know the anon you’re talking about. When I saw his I started looking around for one like it and it turns out that, for that model range, VC only made around 250 of the chronometers, plus another 250 world timers and around 500 chronographs. The rest were all quartz shitters.
So I basically gave up trying to find one.

>>18504235
>Panerai
Based Euros

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of the Tudor Black Bay 58 GMT ?

>>18504339
In terms of dimensions, it’s great. Now we sit back and wait for Tudor to release it in better colors.

>>18504339
As a watch it's great, as a concept it's befuddling that this watch exists and yet since then they've continued to release thicker GMTs without rhis movement.

My girl Ghislaine in her prime wearing a Breitling Callisto

>>18504418
>then they've continued to release thicker GMTs without rhis movement.
They have a stockpile of the shitty movements they need to burn down. They can’t just throw them out.

>modern Omega are all shitt-ACK

>>18504499
Yes. 39mm for a retro inspired watch is grotesque.
It's also 12mm thick despite having a manual wind movement. What were they thinking?

>>18504509
>39mm is too big
Wristlet moment

>>18504526
Cope, faggot.
Large watches are for cringy millenials with 0 sense of style.

>>18504509
>What were they thinking?
Fuck what were they thinking, how the fuck did they even manage to do that? Most hand-winding watches end up being Under 10mm without even trying.

I’m convinced the anon from the last thread who insisted Omega is doing the thickness on purpose is correct.

>>18503596
It has ecodrive

>>18504218
US Military units and government agencies learned Omega will make a custom batch of watches if you give them enough taxpayer money.

>>18504548
>Most hand-winding watches end up being Under 10mm without even trying.
The Hamilton Khaki Field (with manual wind movement) is 9.5mm thick and has more WR than that piece of shit Omega.

Buy Omega

im a life failure since im not a fighter pilot, what are some watches with that pilot aesthetic like pic rel

>>18504499
If they made this somewhere between 34-37mm it would be something to talk about, but it's just another anachronistic shitter like most of their modern throw back offerings.

>>18504619
I think it would have been nice if they used it to promote new technologies and/or materials like their spirate system. Or, use it to show off their watchmaking chops. (Despite the seething hatred of Omega ITT, they are capable of making good products.)

As it is, the watch is just pure laziness, though.

>>18504646
>the watch is just pure laziness
unc is cappin

>>18504661
Wow. They removed the automatic winding mechanism and added a larger bridge.

>>18504646
Omega has always been capable, that's never been the issue. Their problem is Swatch has had them continue pursuing the oversized shitter audience with eternally rotating speedmaster and seamaster 300 "limited" runs. They could make thin little classic dress watches like they made in the 50s tomorrow. They just don't.

>wanted to get pic rel, but missed the drops
>last week find out a small watch shop few towns over has one
>it finally arrives
>it’s too fucking small
I can barely force it on my pinky but it still hurts. This shit was designed for japanese hands or some shit

Someone ID the watch she is wearing

>>18504147
Yes, literally always, going back to the pocket watch days there were good movements and cheap movements and all kinds of cases to put them in. You'd very often buy a movement from one manufacturer and put it in a case from a different manufacturer. A lot of people would try to put most of their watch money into as good a movement as they could afford and buy a cheaper brass case to put it in, and sometimes jewelers would entice people to buy gold or silver cases by offering discounts on higher end movements to put them in.

>>18504526
For a time only watch from the period this watch is trying to evoke? Yes, it is.

>>18504710
Forgot to attach pic of course

>>18504729
Rolex

>>18504682
>They could make thin little classic dress watches like they made in the 50s tomorrow. They just don't.
That’s not Swatch’s fault. That’s our fault for not buying them. Euros and Burgers only buy Speedmasters and Seamasters. The East Asians buy tons of Constellations, but those are thick and oversized too.

>>18504770
Yeah, expectations changed. Back then the flexx was “look they put a movement into such a tiny box” but now everyone has smartphones so it feels less impressive. Now it’s back to ungabunga “me have bigger rock”

>>18504706
lose weight fatty

>>18504706
I'd buy this for a watch autist girl

>>18504786
>watch autist "girl"

>>18504786
>watch autist
>girl

How would you use it?

>>18504729
what watch do I wear to get a Gio girlfriend

>>18504770
I don't know how well they're selling, but the 2026 Olympics 37mm seamaster is amazing and gives me hope for a possible return to form for omega. The old constellation stuff is so much better than the bullshit new constellations, hopefully they drop the new crap and make the pie pans and cushion case day dates and all that stuff again.

>>18504806
Bottom left corner of the triangle dial is 6 o'clock, the middle of the top side of the triangle dial is 12 o'clock.

at what price is an oyster perpetual 36 a good deal

>>18504877
How much you got?

>>18504806
>>18504866

>>18504578

Only in the US an unskilled, untalented, yapping, warmongering kike like him could become filthy rich.

>>18504081
20 past 8 no one needs the time to the minute

>>18505002
They do if they're doing record keeping.

i'm taking a trip to europe in a month, yet i don't really want to bring any of my vintage watches with me in case i'm out in the rain or something like that.

should i just drop $140 and get myself a new amphibia to travel with? i'd like a vintage one, but once again, unsure of how reliably waterproof they are and shady ukropig watchmakers who sell them.

>>18505058
>We have Oris Aquis at home

>>18505058
You mist be mistaken, it is the Russians who are shady, not the Ukranians.

>>18505063
they're both the same to me, it's just that i can't buy watches from russia anymore for some stupid reason

i just want something mechanical, very cheap, new-ish, and waterproof so i can travel with it and not feel bad about it versus a 60 year old grand seiko or king seiko

>>18505072
Invicta pro diver 40mm. Vostoks are fun but I checked out on the whole vintage aspect of them. Respect to those that figured it out, communist society doesn’t care about keeping the past. There’s no record keeping, owners used the crap out of them and everyone post USSR collapse refurbished them to sell. Compression style case means it’s prone to leaks if the gaskets went bad.

>>18504969
you just mad you can't make bank with yapping

Is it still yapping if you're spitting facts though?

Kofe time.

>>18504339
hands are retarded

>>18504424
>Ghislaine
would
yes even now

>>18504806
use?

Watch ID?

>>18505057
>They do if they're doing record keeping.
If they’re keeping records like that, they don’t have the kind of job where they can afford a Moser tourbillon.

>>18505288
Rolex

Thoughts?

>>18505315
Quartz chronos are stupid.

>>18505315
Anyone who ever considered a Seiko deserves a bullet in the head.

>>18504578
another reason to dislike Omega

>>18505315
I had the black version, it's a good solid watch, but also very scratcheable, which is weird for a brushed finish.

I sold mine (at a discount because of the scratches) because:
1) $500 watches is really wasting money, either wait to buy a 1k watch or just buy a $50 shitter. But the $500 category is already serious money but also still shitters (quartz, entry level finishing), these used to be priced $200.
2) I didn't connect with the watch and (solar) quartz in general
3) It impresses no one and there's no marvel when you look at it, it's really a blue collar watch. Like you could see a 50 year old garbage man wearing it and think "well, it fits".

>>18505375
What does an 1k watch have over a 500$ watch

>>18505315
Also, notice the difference in brushing between the case and the bracelet, that's not something you'd see on even entry level luxury watches.
That bracelet is solid, but it's like the most generic Seiko bracelet they must use on every other model and call it a day.
Ok for a $200 watch, but for $500 think about all the rep watches at this pricepoint that copy luxury bracelets perfectly, and you understand how lazy this is..

>>18505378
Over this watch? An entry level automatic or mechanichal movement (but probably not on a chrono) and better finishing.

>>18505385
Name 1 chrono with a good movement for 1k

>>18505392
That was not my claim but don't try me, faggot.
1K on chrono24

>Toss It

>>18505288
grand seiko

>>18505422
weak come back

>>18505392

You'll get plenty of my cum back when your mommy kisses you.

>>18505420
Does the Valjoux 7753 in that thing really constitute a “good” movement?

>>18505337
Why?

>>18504499
Beautiful watch, horrible dimensions.

>>18504806

>>18505288
Isn't that the question of the day?

>>18505467
It's an entry level movement, retard.
The question is "Is it better than the Seiko Speedtimer solar quartz" and the answer is yes.

>>18505513
By what metrics?

>>18505513
Entry level is not good, regardless of it being better than some Seko shitmovement. They’re both shitty, even if one is liquid and the other is solid.

>>18505513
> The question is "Is it better than the Seiko Speedtimer solar quartz"
That’s not, in fact, what the question was.

>>18505392
>>18505420

Thoughts on the Traska Summiteer?

>>18505563
Wouldn't do any summit with this shit. GShock any day.
or Rolex GMT Master if you're a rich aging cunt.
yeah, kys.

>>18505563
Stupid name, ugly watch.

>>18505567
>>18505571
What's a better watch to get if I want a Rolex explorer style GADA watch that's below 40mm, has domed sapphire crystal, and costs under 500 EUR?

>>18505563
Trashka has misaligned everything.

>>18505576
Rolex Explorer fake.

>>18505576
Aliexpress probably has like a million.

>>18505576
>under 500 EUR?
GShock.
get back to us when you have some big boy money, lil dicklet.

>>18505576
Don't listen to these fucking retards >>18505578 >>18505591 Their whole existence is dedicated to shitting up theses threads.

Anyway. IMO your best option is the Baltic HMS 003 on bracelet (picrel). It's 500 EUR. Baltic has other options in the 500/700 EUR range.
You can also check Vague Watch Co, a japanese brand that makes "homages" to 1950s and 1960s Rolex.
If you don't mind quartz, then Hamilton Khaki Field. It looks cool and it's right under 500.

>>18505605
>accuses real posters of shitposting
>recs baltic to new fag unironically
Sup shitteranon, yeah we know it's you. How's asylum treating you?

>>18505607
>shitteranon
Post your watch right now with time stamp and I'll do it too.

>>18505605
8 series myota is the work of satan himself, it is the worst caliber ever created, even vostok is better.

>>18505605
>Vague Watch Co
Trololololo.

What's the difference between this shit and an Alibaba Rolex again?

>>18505611
>What's the difference between this shit and an Alibaba Rolex again?
The name on the dial. Vague Watch isn't trying to fool their customers.

>>18505617
What's the point of not having the only thing that's good about the watch on it though?

solar quartz > your shitty auto

I'm looking for a watch like this.
Is there a good quality watch shaped like this, or at least a cheap one?
Please and thank you.

>>18505734
Exaequo Softwatch.
500 eurobucks.

>>18505734
>surrealist melting watch
>>18505741
>fat blob
That avaturd with the man tits should get that lmfao.

>>18505610
It's outdated but god damn. What's wrong with it?

>>18505748
Nobody understands what you're talking about Ranjeet. You're literally the only one ITT who's still obsessed with these "avaturds" you keep talking about. kys.

>>18505756
Incredibly cheaply made, of course, but also poor design.
For example, The indirect drive second hand can easily be knocked around and lose position. Even just gravity can cause this in some cases. Even when running well, the second hand will stutter.

Then there’s all the stuff that comes with the cheapness, like a loud, rattly rotor, low beat rate, no hacking (I think some newer ones might actually hack.)

>>18505748
>melting watch
It's a crashed watch, this isn't Dali.

What should I get as my first watch if I don’t want to get a Rolex or something? Is Citizen any good?

>>18505806
>if I can't afford a Rolex
ftfy
>Is Citizen any good?
No it's awful. Save and get a Rolex.

>>18505806
Seiko is mostly good and affordable as long as they have sapphire crystals, Hamilton and Tissot are pretty good if you have a little more money and want something swiss. Probably better value than those would be chinese homage brands like San Martin, they won't get you any sort of respect from the snobs but they're okay for the money and figuring out what kind of watches you like and if you even enjoy wearing watches on a serious enough level to eventually buy a proper luxury watch.

>>18505807
I can. I just don’t want one. I don’t want a Mercedes either. It’s tacky.

>>18505814
Good to know. I did see some Tissot that looked pretty nice. I also checked out Tag Heuer but I’m not really sure what I’m even buying so I don’t want to pay that much yet. Are good American watches a thing or is all the good stuff Swiss?

>>18505806
You just gotta try stuff on and figure out what works for you, no one can tell you what you like. I recommend staying under 500 until you figure out what your thing is, because your taste will change as you buy watches. Id go for something that suits your lifestyle, so if you're outdoorsy and like hiking/camping maybe a field watch or a g-shock. Dress watch if you wear suits and go to formal events. Diver watch if you want something that can be dressed down or up.

>>18505817
All the good historical American companies like Hamilton and Ball are held by foreign entities now. That and Timex which may as well be a cheap chinese shitter company at this point. There is proper American watchmaking still happening but you're looking at more artisanal work in the $10000-20000 price ranges, maybe more. There's a small company called RGM Watch Co. that is based in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and once in a while I humor the idea of ordering one because I live relatively nearby and I think it would be cool to have a real American watch made in Lancaster the way they used to be but they're asking $15-20k for steel watches. It's a little much for a literally who brand.

What sort of price limit do you have in mind? If you're considering getting into Tag price points you should also be looking around at Tudor, Breitling, Omega, Longines, depending on what you're looking for maybe Cartier. It depends on what kind of watch you want and where you want to wear it, is it for going to parties and formal stuff or is it for going hiking or working in the yard or swimming or something?

Throw your Rolex datejeet in the trash and get with the programme.

>>18505741
Thanks.

>>18505842
>RGM
It's been a while since I looked at their offerings and it looks like they've added some more contemporary and relatively affordable designs. One of the other things that held me back from buying one is that a lot of their movements are based on pocket watch movements so they end up being big 43mm diameter dinner plates, but for this one they just got a sellita and made a nice thin little daily watch.

>>18505563
Looks pretty good (though I don't like the sword hour hand).
But I'd never be able to get over the fact it's a 1016 Cope

>>18505611
FUCK RACIISSSMMM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Japanese leftism is the most pretentious shit you'll ever encounter.

>>18505734
>cheap one
aliex has a copy

>>18505611
>Fuck Racism
lol

is there a go-to place for rolex frankenwatches?

i personally want one because i want a vintage submariner look, but i would not feel comfortable with using a real vintage one daily. but some modded parts and other stuff mixed in would be fine, since at least it wouldn't hold any true value

>>18505951
It's kind of too bad honest dealers can't buy and sell frankens people have a hard time getting rid of, maybe mark the back of one of the lugs or something to show it's a horseshit watch. It could simultaneously take frankens off the market and help set useful standards for pricing them so they aren't totally worthless but nobody is going to overpay for them.

>>18505951
Isn't there a lolex vintage looking super clone yet?

>>18505483
Because Im gay and buy whatever 'swiss made' shit that gets pushed in my feed, anything that matches my stanley cup collection.

>>18505866
>>18505842
kinda falling for this watch, bros

>>18505780
>>18505794
Ok wear your Weight Watchers Watch then tubby.

>>18505817
>I can. I just don’t want one.
Then get any other $15k watch :)

>>18505842
>>18505866
>>18506114
What a joke

>>18506091
There's plenty of them.

>>18506070
The problem is that the dealers themselves don’t always have the expertise to be able to tell what is a Franken vs what is just bodged-together from fake parts. Knowledge of individual parts is much more intricate than being able to say
>a 14060M from 2005 should have this bracelet code and this clasp code!

It's over.

>>18506339
Ok, don’t buy a watch for the next few weeks until Trump changes his mind. Or don’t buy a watch for three more years until a Democrat gets elected.
Or only buy a used watch from a US buyer.
Or move to a better country.

You have options.

>>18505866
RGM makes two very different kinds of watches:
- microshitters with off-the-shelf Swiss/Chinese movements
- hand-made watches with in-house movements

It’s important to only buy the latter from them. Don’t encourage them to make more microshitters.

poor mans alternative for this watch?

And actually poor , not "boohoo I can only spend $3000 on a watch" , I don't care about movements or efficiency or any of that shit , I just like this aesthetic and as long as its a functional its ok

>>18506389
I’m sure there’s a couple Seikos that fit the bill. Maybe check out the watch display at WalMart.
I think the poorfag watch thread posters would probably know more than us.

>>18506344
>until a Democrat gets elected.
The Democrats have no viable options, so I imagine they're going to send up yet another unelectable woman who will fail miserably at the polls.

>>18506393
>2 women in a row
i still cant believe they did it

>>18506413
Getting a black man elected, they got cocky. They didn’t realize that while Americans generally dislike black people, they fucking hate women.

>>18502661
what is this?

are turquoise blue dials effay? Thinking of copping one but worried its too faggy

>>18506423
It’s spam.

>>18506428
Turquoise is very played-out at this point. It’s not 2021 anymore.

>>18506374
>>18506374
Hand made bespoke products are really nice but I understand the need to offer something on the lower end to help keep the lights on. Some of the cheaper watches with more contemporary mass produced movements really aren't that bad, maybe just overpriced for what they are.

>>18506447
I would still like them to do SOMEthing to the off the shelf movements. Like how IWC would use the Pellaton winding mechanism or, and this is not the best example, how Omega modified the 2982 with a coaxial escapement.

RGM could, say, modify the Selitta to use the Motor Barrel system and reshape the bridges to show it off. That would also demonstrate a little American hand-working has been done.

Rolex.

That's it. That's the post.

>>18505313
>>18505432
No and both of you are unfunny and mentally ill people

>>18505288
It's the Longines flagship heritage moonphase (I think so)

I wear this daily for work, but take it off on weekends unless I am doing a hike

>>18506602
based af

>>18505226
Least controversial post itt

>>18506623
Nice lugs, remind me of the Carrera and some other watch I won't mention.

>>18506339
Just buy used from the US. This will help some flippers clear their inventory.

>>18506070
As if the fanken market is that big.

Is there enough room to put a battery and a small motor that would wind the mainspring next to standard movement?

>>18506678
The counterfeit market is pretty big, so I don't see why it wouldn't be. It's basically the same thing. I think people who are willing to pay $500-1000 for superclones would probably pay similar money for frankens provided it's declared and marked as franken as it's sold so nobody can be confused. A franken might be higher quality and more genuine than a clone.

>>18506681
Depending on how much added thickness you could tolerate, sure. The question is why would you do that?

>>18506687
>thickness
I meant next to, like when they squeeze a microrotor besides the normal movement.
>Why?
You don't really need a why with watches, do you? Because nobody has done it yet, that's why. And because it's stupid but someone might see something in it and further improve it.

>>18506691
Adding an electric motor would almost definitely add diameter and thickness to your movement regardless of how you orient it on the movement.
>further improve it
Again, further improve what? What are you trying to accomplish? What do you see as the benefit to doing this?

>>18506699
>What do you see as the benefit to doing this?
The watch runs.

>>18506699
Are you trying to tell me that a motor that isn't more than 5mm thick doesn't exist?

>>18506681
Retard.

>>18506699
>Again, further improve what?
Maybe add a solar cell to top up the battery?

>>18506724
I'm trying to innovate here, I'm a watch designer.

>>18506726
I worked for Vacheron, i did a Day Date for them. It's nice and subtle, nobody has a double retrograde day and date, let alone this well implemented one.

>>18506730

invenit et feces

>>18503800
Mido

>>18506419
also women hate women almost as much as men hate women
its kinda like how blacks like to see blacks succeed
but they never want a black doctor or pilot
they want blacks to succeed elsewhere
basically racial nimby
same thing with women
they dont trust another woman in those kinds of roles

>>18506684
>>18506091
i don't like the idea of super clones, i'd just buy a different brand than try to fake something

but an unoriginal rolex with some aftermarket, some original, and some non-appropriate parts for the reference is what i want. just because it would 1: not hold any real value 2: have an interesting patina 3: still be a "real" rolex, even if it's been modded

it's like buying an older car, where it's going to have a variety of replacement parts and stuff if you want to actually use it, meanwhile some retarded boomer fag wants the numbers matching corvette that he will just stare at and never use (guy who drops 6 figures on a real james bond submariner)

>>18506659
giga effay
both of them really

>>18506743

>>18504065
This and >>18502661
Are the same watch?

>>18506807
no
but they are very similar

>>18506730
Nice, that does look awesome

>>18506730
Send me one then.

>>18506726
What.

are you trying.

to innovate?

What problem is a motorized mainspring winder solving that a rotor or quarts movement doesn't?

niggas really be doing anything they can to not just get a quartz

>>18506726
The only people innovating is Garmin and Casio. Mechanical watches are just art pieces, the industry is hurting itself by not making quarts shitters.

>>18506635
Why anon? Do you work as a park ranger or something?

I fucking hate wrist shots. Stop taking photos so close up to the watch and fucking up the perspective.

>>18506968
Stfu bitterbitch

>>18506885
>What problem is a motorized mainspring winder solving that a rotor or quarts movement doesn't?
It isn't motorized. And it hasn't been done before. Why are you suddenly so obsessed with the why? Watches don't need a why, they need to be made, and then they need to be bought and enjoyed. Do you have a problem with people who would buy and enjoy this kind of watch? But you don't have a problem with a fucking jukebox for a gmt on a watch, or a triple split chronograph that can time 12 hours, or a fucking miniature running car engine model made out of sapphire in a watch?
I asked for expert opinion on the architecture of the watch, not for your philosophical opinion on the existence of it.

>>18506885
A solar powered spring driven mechanical watch.

>>18506885
>What problem is a motorized mainspring winder solving that a rotor or quarts movement doesn't?
The rotor saps energy from the wearer. You could add a quartz regulator instead of lever escapement and make a solar powered spring drive if you insist on having quartz. We can improvise, see? Don't be so uptight, have some fun, the possibilities are there if you want to see them.

>>18507000
The benefit of the motorized winding is that we can independently control the tension of the mainspring, thereby reducing losses and wear on the geartrain and we improve accuracy that way.

>>18507003
We can basically replace the fusee and chain system entirely that way. We could of course omit the variable mainspring tension system and use a fusee and chain instead, and only wind the mainspring once, but fully, as it goes empty, further improving on the energy efficiency.

How accurate are timegraphers?

>>18507008
Could you make a solar powered, spring driven mechanical timegrapher?

Thoughts on the Sinn 104?
I love it so far, has great movement.
Hadn’t even heard of this watch until it was recently gifted to me

>>18507014
Some anon had the black one, he liked it as far as i can remember. It's got that nice solid germanic look to it.

>>18507014
>has great movement
Last time i checked it had cheapest sellita available, has something changed?

>>18507016
Changed the band to a leather one.

It lost the sharp sterility and gave it a bit of soul

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>>18503114
I've been looking at the classic wave 34mm watches for a while, they pop up pretty cheap on chrono quite often. How do you rate them?
Is the strap pretty comfy? I reckon they look sleek, shit all over all this fucking tasteless garbage in these threads.

>>18507144
the band is either a little too tight or too lose for me personally. its wearable though. I would get it on ebay and I wouldn't pay more than 450 for it.