Thread 18542774

Skincare/hygiene General #21

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Post your routine, holy grails and strategies to shave balls. Share experience about skincare products and your skin issues

Some of the links might be outdated, post questions if you have any

FAQ:
Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips: http://pastebin.com/5QEQgMUp
How to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Why you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face: http://pastebin.com/Ujf2x9M6
How to improve your skin tone through diet: http://pastebin.com/epLqSbEQ
Studies on how diary and sugars create acne: http://pastebin.com/0H5gag01
Dark circles around the eyes: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids:
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen:
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles:
http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

Reminder that retinol concentration above 0,3% will be banned soon in EU (does not apply to retinaldehyde)

looking for an alternative to ANESSA Perfect UV Sunscreen Mild Milk

i like everything about it except it burns my skin :(

it's hard to find a light, matte chemical sunscreen. i don't want the "dewy" look.

>>18542789
>it's hard to find a light, matte chemical sunscreen. i don't want the "dewy" look.

>>18542792
i've tried this and it left a sheen too.
also tried round lab, torriden, d'alba, skin1004, joseon, biore uv. d'alba is probably the nicest but again, shiny.
skin aqua isn't bad, but has a fragrance i don't want.

>>18542797
Maybe you are doing something wrong in your routine. This was invisible on me, left no residue or layer. Even tends to dry me out. It was recommended a few times in previous threads as well for this specific reason.

Guess you could go through youtube reviews where they apply sunscreens and show their face after 30 minutes or whatever

>>18542789
Use the non-mild version? Also, there are a lot of fake Anessas.

>>18542787
Tret and the like are effectively banned anyways in EU. No derms want to write a prescription for it.
Why? Big skincare. They are just a big part of the economy.
Same thing is happening in South Korea. Try getting tret over there.

It’s shady as fuck.

>>18542809
Same in Japan.

how do i stop "chud lines" showing up on my face? im only 22, not fat, wear sunscreen, moisturise at least twice a week, drink enough water and get 8+ hours of sleep. im also developing bags under my eyes.
is it just over?

>>18542833
Stop coming to 4chan unironically. It destroys you mentally and physically.

>>18542833
Sleep during the night rather than sleeping in. Also, many people have had nasal folks. It’s just that meme absolutely shamed people for having them. Also eat bananas.

>>18542842
but i like this site. the only boards i frequent are /lit/ and /wsg/
its nice not needing an account or having post history or similar bullshit

>>18542861
i start work at 6, a sleep in for me is about 8am lol. i go to bed at about 9pm

What are the best things we have for fighting aging right now? I'm using sunscreen and tretinoin at the moment, is there anything else I should add?

>>18542871
5ar inhibitors, T blockers, estrogen, according to femboys.

>>18542871
>AM
finasteride to prevent hair loss
multivitamin
fish oil
metamucil premium (2 hours after other meds)

cleanse
vitamin c (skinceuticals, timeless, or melano cc)
humectant (hyaluronic acid)
moisturizer
spf 30+ broad spectrum


>PM
cleanse
retinoid (tretinoin, tazarotene, or adapalene)
humectant (hyaluronic acid)
moisturizer

>General
floss, brush, and mouthwash twice a day
exercise 5 days a week, both strength and endurance
eat healthy and may need to supplement protein depending on diet
stay a healthy weight (low body fat percentage)
drink 3-4L of water a day
7-8 hours of sleep with consistent bedtime
annual physical with blood work for cbc and lipid panel
continuous learning. always have a side project/hobby that's intellectually engaging and fun
use vacation time to travel outside your normal stomping grounds
put in effort to keep up friends and family

>>18542871
1. Quit 4chan.

>>18542774 (OP)
I'm 21 and I'm starting to notice nasolabial folds on my face. What products can I use to avoid wrinkles if anything? Right now my skincare routine is just cleaner + moisturizer

>>18543350
Tretinoin. Tazarotene.
Sunscreen.

Nasolabial folds will need botox or fillers though.

>>18542809
I live in Ireland and I found an online derm that writes perscriptions. She gave me a perscription for it two months ago.

>>18542991
god dang that shit is hard

best way to fade a tan?

>>18542787
I didn't realize there was tret above 0.1%, 0.3% must be strong as fuck

>>18543459
glutathione iv or oral

>>18543462
It's about retinol, not tret
https://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/types-of-retinoids.html

>>18542787
I'm in Greece and I buy tret as a gel for 4 euro, no prescription.
I also get tazarotene but that's more expensive.

Btw been using tazarotene daily past few days and losing so much skin it's insane.

>>18543565
I'm trying to order some taz, do you prefer it to tret?

>>18543567
Not sure what either did for me. I haven't seen any significant difference (few years of tret and one tub of tazarotene).

How many times a week does tret need to be applied to maintain anti aging? I use it on my face 4 nights a week. Is this enough or do I need to apply it more?

Any reccs on what I should use for my hands? I work in a hospital and have to constantly sanitize my hands with alcohol or wipes and it's fucking my skin up.
Would Cerave Hand Repair be alright or is there something stronger/better?

>>18542833
Unironically don't smile and just do that Zoolander sucking face whenever you can.

>>18542991
>>18543440
it's not too bad
break it into pieces and make small incremental positive changes over time
trying to make a major shift in your lifestyle probably won't stick
building good habits pays out over time

also should have mentioned semiannual dental cleaning from a dental hygienist and an annual checkup with the dentist

>>18543732
get gloves like these: https://a.co/d/6lyTBw2

wash then moisturize. some other options below.
my personal favorite is "slugging". i'll use a normal moisturizer like cerave daily, then i'll put a layer of aquaphor over the top, then gloves.
all before bed.

Aquaphor Healing Ointment
CeraVe Healing Ointment
LRP Cicaplast Hand Repair Cream
Eucerin Advanced Repair Hand Cream

>>18543711
4 is probably good, but i go for every night occasionally taking one night breaks to focus on moisturizing.
what strength are you using? lowering down may help. higher strengths is only really beneficial for acne. 0.025% cream is still good. ultimately do what your skin can tolerate. damaging your skin barrier does more harm than good.

https://youtu.be/5h_gE4t_3ro?t=266

>>18543734
duck face era make so much more sense

I want to thank you for the pinned basic routine. It really helped me, I’ve been getting a lot of compliments about my skin lately at work

>>18543711
Maintenance dosage is pseudoscience.

>>18543565
>Greece is a lawless zone
Yes, we know that, anon.

If anyone cares, having switched back to shampoo recently, I've noticed improvements in my hair, which is ~4 inches long. The semi-frizziness helps with the look I'm going for tho

>>18542809
>>18542815
And yet people on Europe, Korea, and Japan have healthier skin on average.
Have you considered those reddit posts about the magic of tretinoin/adapalen/tazarotene are just ads? So that you ask your doctor for a prescription.

Is it always a choice between looking young and having high testosterone? It can't be both. You decide between being a femboy or high t man. All those products contain hormones disrupting chemicals, also sun it's essential for you.

>>18543871
More restrictions around a lot of other things than most other countries actually.

>>18544212
misinfo

>>18544212
I wonder what's next after lowering testosterone in male adults to look younger. I mean, we have plastic surgeries? Is it about money?

>>18543565
>I buy tret as a gel for 4 euro
damn your countrymen are ripping me off lol, i spend like 20 yurobucks on .1% tazarotene from here https://bestpharmacy.gr/en/boderm-tazarene-0-1-cream-for-oily-skin-40ml.html
though honestly i cant complain since it lasts so long. also it helps with getting around needing a prescription, i dont think it gets checked at customs either because it's going between two EU countries

>>18543437
>I live in Ireland
lol same, is the prescription expensive and how much did they give you?

You guys should check https://www.sunscreentester.com/the-results/

Methodology is not perfect, but indicates that;
1. Asian suncreens are weaker that Western ones on average. Especially Japanese ones. In vitro at least. And obviously people have been using some of these poor-reviewed ones just fine, no burning, etc. Perhaps interaction with sweat and sun activates the UV filter somehow. But surely it gives me a peace of mind that a lot of brands just simply block the UV without requiring some weird shit to happen first on your skin.
2. Physical suncreen can protect from UVA just fine. Physical filters don't automatically mean bad UVA protection.

>>18545479
ive said this before but ill say it again
australian sunscreen will always mog any other just due to the australian conditions. its not uncommon to have days with a uv rating of 10+ in the australian summer (there were a few 14+ days earlier this year) and they work perfectly. no other country has both the incentive or the means to make sunscreen with specs this high

>>18545590
So? Most people don't live in Australia. And it doesn't seem the country exports their oh-so-great sunscreens. Is sunscreen the only thing worth bragging about that penal colony?

>>18545590
https://www.choice.com.au/health-and-body/beauty-and-personal-care/skin-care-and-cosmetics/articles/sunscreen-test
>We tested the SPF claims of 20 sunscreens. 16 failed
Descendants of criminals don't have morals.

>>18545616
La Roche Posay is winning as usual. I'm not sure why anyone would use anything else.

Anyone use Elemis moisturiser?

Will tret fix my dark eye circles?

webm related

>>18545616
can't wait for the lab muffin video

>>18546281
Have you not read about dry eye condition caused by tret and similar products? It’s actually pretty serious.

>>18546308
But she did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J_Nv98iNmY
Like all other skin influencers, he tried to undermine the scandal too.
The whole thing is really shady and also shows most skin influencers are easily bribed. Many of them blame choice instead.
There's a lot of money involved. It's such a corrupt country.

>>18545617
Because I'm not made of money and don't live in EU. FML.

>>18545192
The tube is 50g and it cost €75 plus €45 for the consultation fee

>>18546715
This is the site I got the tret from

https://goandglow.ie/

>>18546718
>>18546715
>>18545192
>>18544215
>>18543938
>>18543565

What do you guys use this shit for? Come on elaborate

>>18546747
To turn back time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3A_-HRFfc

I started using tretinoin 0.05% on August 2nd and i applied it 3 times a week up until august 29th where I startes applying it 4 times a week. My skin was fine until I added a fifth day this week and now part of the skin on my chin and near my lip is stinging and very dry, red and hurts when I open my mouth wide. What should I do?

>>18546747
Supposedly for antiaging. I didn't see any benefits (using tret from 36->39 and now tazarotene) but my skin gets 0 sun exposure besides 3 weeks in the summer and I have good genes.

>>18546718
Damn, that looks really shady. Like a scam website. Surely there's a better telehealth provider in Ireland?

>>18546948
It's legit. I filled out the form, paid the fee and they sent the tretinoin to my local pharmacy. Pic rel is what they sent me.

>>18546944
I mean if it hurts, obviously stop. Reddit loves to recommend cicaplast for that kind of thing. If just want to try panthenol ointment, then bepanthen/bepanthol can be cheaper depending on your location.

What other stuff are you using on your skin? Your skincare routine.

>>18546951
Australian brand tretinoin? In Ireland. Is it actually a derm or just shady black market tretinoin importer?
Are you really not noticing these red flags?

>>18546957
I use 50spf sunscreen. I'm worried if i sto0 applying the tretinoin i will lose my progress

>>18546964
It's a derm

>>18546966
Well, I suggest to add moisturizer and hydrating toners. Not that everyone needs them, but since your skin doesn't seem it can handle tret without help.
>i will lose my progress
If your skin didn't hurt, and now hurting, I wouldn't call it progress.

>>18546972
It only started hurting after i added a fiftn night of tret. I did it 4 nights a week and was fine

>>18546970
Let me be very clear.
>>18546718
The website looks shady.
The name is shady.
No real address.
No dermatologist name.
Sent you tret for Australian market despite operating in Ireland.

I'm sure the tret is real. But you seem like you easily fall for scams.

>>18546982
Goandglow is registered with the Irish Medical Council though

>>18546945
Sound like it's worth a try at least, that claim is gold. Do you need to wear super strong sunscreen with it? And is it a daily treatment?

oh my god shaving while tret'ing is fucking godly. my skin has turned into GLASS.

>>18547158
I get that too. It's really nice, insanely smooth.

how do i get rid of this? its been like this for a year

>>18547199
carmex you nitwit

>>18547232
tried it, didnt work

im a manly man
are there any sunscreens that are manly man scented to suit a manly man such as myself?

>>18547413
for skincare always go with unscented
use a cologne for scent

>A.M.
Vanicream Shampoo
beplain Mung Bean pH-Balanced Cleansing Foam
CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser Bar

Torriden DIVE-IN Low Molecule Hyaluronic Acid Serum
CeraVe Ultra-Light Moisturizing Lotion SPF 30
Aquaphor Lip Repair Balm
Derma: B Mild Moisture Body Lotion

Finasteride 1mg
Centrum Multivitamin for Men
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega
Optimum Nutrition Micronized Creatine Powder 5g
Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard 100% Whey Protein (1 scoop 3x day)
Metamucil Premium Blend (2tsp 3x day)

>P.M.
beplain Mung Bean pH-Balanced Cleansing Foam
Tazarotene Cream 0.05%
S. NATURE Aqua Squalane Moisturizing Cream
Torriden SOLID IN Ceramide Lip Essence

Thorne Melaton-3
Life Extensions Magnesium L-Threonate
Life Extensions L-Theanine

>Dental
Cocofloss
Philips Sonicare DiamondClean 9900 Prestige Electric Toothbrush
Crest Pro-Health Advanced Gum Restore
TheraBreath Mouthwash

>Excercise
EltaMD UV Sport Broad Spectrum SPF 50
Supergoop! PLAY Lip Balm SPF 30
La Roche-Posay Anthelios UV Pro-Sport SPF 50 Sunscreen

>Occasional Items
Biodance Bio-Collagen Real Deep Mask
Round Lab 1025 Dokdo Lotion
La Roche Posay Cicaplast Baume B5
ETUDE SoonJung 2x Barrier Intensive Cream
Torriden Dive-IN Low Molecular Hyaluronic Acid Soothing Cream
Dr. Dan's Cortibalm Lip Balm

>>18547199
Must be a fungal infection if it's persisted so long. Try using an anti-fungal cream.

>>18547518
All that just to get mogged by someone who doesn't need to take care of himself because he has good genetics.

>>18542774 (OP)
alright cocksuckers, i want to get rid of my pimples, whiteheads and blackheads without spending a fortune or taking 50 different products every day like >>18547518 , what should i do?

>>18547589
Low dose accutane.

THIS TRET STUFF SOUND HECKIN PHENOMENAL. HIE DO I GET THIS SHIT IN THE UK WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION!?

I NEED TO TRY IT NOW!

>>18547629
Just get a prescription? You sound like authorities looking for stuff to ban.

>>18547653
You're not from the UK are you? I can tell. I can't even get a prescription for my diagnosed prostatitis. The doctors here are the opposite of how they are in America

>>18547199
This is a fungal infection

Miconazole nitrate + Hydrocortisone cream for 1 week, avoid drinking/eating for 1 hour afrer putting it

After that put Vasline around the lips when you are go to sleep

Avoid licking your lips

I started using tretinoin on august 2nd and i applied it 3 days a week. I increased it to 4 days on august 29th and i tried increasing to 5 days this week and now a patch if skin near my skin is red, flaky, dry and stings. I've been taking a break for 4 days now and moisturising daily. How long can i take a break from tret before i lose progress?

https://regimenlab.com/blogs/labnotes/breaking-down-the-science-a-comprehensive-comparison-of-barrier-repair-products

Found this comparison of barrier repair products. Methodology is a bit suspect but it agrees with people's observation that Aestura and Illiyoon are not as good as it used to be. In addition to reformulations they probably reduce ceramide content and other expensive ingredients as cost-cutting measures.

The result also shows that Atopalm deserves it reputation.

>>18546715
deahhhhhhh mad expensive, i was gonna to get prescription tret when i first started looking into this but I saw the only brand that was sold here was one that had antibiotics in it, im guessing for cystic acne

>>18546747
i've been taking it since i was 19 (turned 20 about a month ago) and for one it definitely helps with at least mild acne. I used to get spots and pimples on my forehead but since i started i've gotten none, made my skin look more clear too

>>18548541
Sounds like a dream. I think I've found a way to get a prescription online.
Do you think this is the real deal?

https://www.medexpress.co.uk/consultations/questions/treclin?quantity=1

>children's sunscreen is cheaper than adult sunscreen even though they're selling 5x+ the amount
so do they just put water and cream in this stuff and sell it as "sunscreen"

>>18548990
Proof of your claim? I looked around, and they are priced similarly.

>>18549383
i was looking at the uvmune400 stuff i use

>>18549538
They cost the same in EU for 50ml. Both uvmune 400 adult and kids version.
Are you confusing the fluid and spray (200ml) version?

>>18548990
children's sunscreen is also usually made of less toxic ingredients

>>18549671
Source: my ass

>>18549672
Just look it up its pretty standard practice.
Instead of the 4-5 endocrine disruptors/coral killers/cancer causing ingredients you usually get something closer to zinc oxide and one other ingredient

>>18549676
Bullshit. The specific uvmune 400 that guy >>18549538 is talking about literally uses the same uv filters for both adult and kids version.

You see what you want to see.

This is fucking bullshit. This 0% tret cream is going to do nothing, and for £60. What a scam like everything in London.

You guys were no help, I guess I'll just accept that I've been scammed

>>18549686
0.025% will burn your skin if you suddenly start applying it every night, it's way stronger than you give it credit it for

>>18542774 (OP)
Do silk masks do anything for maskne? My boss at my volunteer gig is a covidiot who requires all volunteers to mask. Volunteering there has seriously fucked up my skincare gains. Adding in azelaic acid has helped somewhat but I think I'll need antibiotics to clear this shit up. My skin was spotless before I started working with that tard
>am/pm: cleanse
>am: finacea
>am/pm: moisturize
>am: spf
>pm: tretinoin 0.5
>>18542789
Do other products burn your skin as well? BG and chemical filter sensitivities are quite common

I bought this stuff for my itchy head and the initial application burned so good! Subsequent use doesn't have the same results but I apply it when I feel like scratching. I switched to a ketoconazole shampoo and hopefully rid this fungus bs that's driving me insane.

>>18550055
- See a derm.
- If not I’d recommend HEPA air purifier, wash your beddings and towels more often with bleach, perhaps replace all of them especially pillows and towels.
- Take care of humidity and ventilation at home.
- A lot of things feed Malassezia. Avoid them. People had reported success with using MCT oil, because the usual recommendations like coconut oil feed the fungus.
- Switching antifungal regularly is also recommended. Try them all, zinc pyrithione, selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine, sulphur, etc.
- I used to do xylitol rinse. It works for me, even though scientifically the biofilm theory doesn’t make much sense.
- Other usual recs. Like more sleep, more exercise, more vegetables, more sun, etc.

>>18549876
Oh really? So I owe them an apology I guess, I thought they were just trying to squeeze more money out of me. Still a bit weird that I must buy from them instead of them just giving a prescription

>>18550184
Who are “they”?

>>18550189
Some "skin clinic" company who are supposed to be Doctors. I'd rather just pick it up from the chemist.
I hope it works for me, my acne isn't bad anymore, it's more my skin texture which is grainy like thousands on tiny bumps. Maybe smooth skin isn't even possible for my body to produce

Anyone can compare western barrier repair creams with Korean stuff? From experience I mean.
Like Bioderma Atoderm Intensive Baume, LRP Cicaplast Baume, Avene Cicafalte, etc.
vs
Illiyoon, Aestura, Atopalm, etc.

>>18550162
>Try them all, zinc pyrithione, selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine, sulphur, etc.
That's good to know in a sea of great advice! I started with selsun blue (selenium sulfide) and have tried zinc pyrithione for a week with no results. I threw out my pillows and bought all new ones with new pillow cases. I haven't replaced my towels yet, but I do bleach them.

>>18542809
can't you just buy in bulk when visiting the states or whatever.

>>18550301
Try xylitol rinse if you haven't. Many people, including me, swear by it. Dissolve a bit of xylitol in water, like a tablespoon in a cup of water. Pour it to scalp, face, and affected area. Wait a bit for a few minutes, or until dry if you want. Then wash it with shampoo or don't. Some people use higher concentration at 5-10%.
Not exact science. But it helped a lot of people.

Obviously you still need anti fungal shampoo/treatment. And try to make your routine as fungal (acne)-safe as possible.

>>18550254
Western ones seem to be more geared towards silicones and occlusives like shea butter whereas Korean products do not. It depends on what works best for you. I have had better experiences with Korean products personally.
>>18550394
You can't get tret unless you have a prescription. People here in the states usually order theirs from India or buy it in Mexico. Farmacias will sell anything as long as it isn't a narcotic. I get my tretinoin from India and Finacea from Australia. I read that Italy apparently has Finacea otc so I'm going to try buying it there and post an update.
>>18550987
As a PSA don't use any products with Xylitol if you have pets. Even brief contact can be really bad for them.

>>18551070
Tret is the easiest shit to get in the states. CVS literally called the healthcare provider right at the counter and told me to wait 10 minutes.

>>18551070
I was just asking because so many people shilled Bioderma Intensive Baume for tretinoin users on /r/tretinoin. I’m not sure if they are real or just marketing interns astroturfing.
I’m currently using Illiyoon. It works for dryness but doesn’t completely solve my redness. Bioderma Atoderm Intensive Baume supposedly can.
Thinking to try that or Atopalm MLE or Atopalm Panthenol Cream/Lotion. But they are quite a bit more expensive than Illiyoon.
Not sure if I should just buy Bepanthen baby ointment and use it on my face. It has 5% panthenol.

>>18551073
Oh I forgot that some pharmacies have onsite nurse practitioners. Personally buying from abroad costs less than my copay and I like not having to shell out extra money to see a doctor.
>>18551133
Allegedly the only brands known for making sponsored content on Reddit are medicube and anua. Bioderma, LRP, and Avene have been around for ages. Granted I've never used Bioderma or LRP due to allergies but I can't say I like Avene. Cicalfate and Tolerance Control both gave me cystic breakouts.
>Not sure if I should just buy Bepanthen baby ointment and use it on my face. It has 5% panthenol.
I checked out the ingredients on that and the lanolin doesn't seem good for acne. For me personally anything really comedogenic breaks me out and no amount of tretinoin will mitigate that. Ymmv but it might be worth trying something simple like vanicream (or your existing moisturizer) and throwing in panthenol or cica serum if that helps with your redness. Sidmool d-panthenol has the highest percentage of any serum I think.

I've been using these two for a while now on my face, but today my dermatologist told me you shouldn't use these on your face and she recommended me something else (some derma brand) and before this I used Joseon spf50, she said that one is fine, is she right with this?

>>18551241
If you’re in Netherlands, just use Suncover SPF 50 - Dr. Jetske Ultee.

>>18551251
I am, and I have never heard of this brand, it seems affordable and I like the ingredients, have you tried it?

>>18551258
Yep, it's fine and cheap. Good alternative if you don't want to spend too much money for LRP and the like.

>>18551265
This almost feels too good to be true, €22 for 250ml what the hell? Also why have I never heard of this

>>18551163
It was 30 bucks, dude.

>>18551269
>Also why have I never heard of this
Because you’re not terminally online on skincare communities like me. That’s a good thing.

But manage your expectation, skincare is YMMV thing. It may still not play well with your skin.

>>18551290
>>18551241

Why don't you just get am SPF moisturizer? I don't get the use of a whole separate product

>>18551310
Which one do you recommend?

>>18551339
Cerave SPF 30 moisturiser. No fucking around

>>18551310
>I don't get the use of a whole separate product
Because you're retarded?
I mean fine, you're lazy and want to use only 1 product that moisturize and protect from the sun. Better than nothing.
But that's hardly the best practice.

And people who care about skincare have night routine too. SPF protection is not needed there. Best to avoid extra unnecessary ingredients to avoid pore clogging and irritation.

SPF of this kind of products tend to be low too. And how about the UVA protection?

And you need to think about application and reapplication. The recommended coin-sized dollop? Are you sure your face can handle that much moisturizer? How about the reapplication every few hours?

>>18551406
Nothing worse than someone who thinks they're very smart but is actually very dumb. I'm not even going to reply to that

im a poorfag what's the cheapest sunscreen that works

>>18551417
yeah, the whole internet is littered with pseuds who call you retarded and then act like you want to listen to them lecture about obvious shit

>>18551421
>>18551417
Aren't most sunscreens also a moisturizer though? Like pic related

>>18551419
dupes of well known companies or whatever your local companies has to offer (they are cheaper because they dont have to be imported)
>>18551426
personally i needed moisturizer under this one
>>18551406
>But that's hardly the best practice
people not always want the best practice. using sunscreen (moisturizing or not) is above average for majority of men anyway

>>18550987
Day 3 on ketoconazole shampoo and I think this is doing the trick. Severely reduced itching. As far as i can tell, no new bumps are forming
>xylitol
I don't know why I overlooked this the other day but I actually have a bag of that for my teeth. Going to look into it and try it out. Cheers!

Not even memeing and not sure if this is even the right place to ask but what cream/product could I use for the wrinkles in my penis. The skin that covers the tip looks so aged and unpleasent. Any advise here?

>>18542833
unironically stop being a chud
I notice the lines more when I'm acting like a chud and less when I'm nice and not angry

>>18552212
what if Im not a chud
I literally have a colombian trans gf with an 8 incher and I take her dick almost daily and I still have chudlines

Can I use cicaplast to buffer tret or should I just apply cicaplast on top of the tret?

>>18552413
in that case you should kill yourself

>>18552647
I always advocate applying tret on bare skin. But do what you want. You'll read cicaplast is too thick or too occlusive. That's just BS imo. I think the bigger problem with cicaplast is some people get acne from it. I personally found it hard to spread and not that magical in terms of healing. But I used the really old version. They kept reformulating it.

>>18551390
Tried this but it feels pretty sticky on my face for the rest of the day, anyone else tried it?

>>18552824
Well sorry, maybe because it's spf 50. Try something that's more of a gel if texture is a big factor. Also I'm not a Doctor I can tell you is a moisturiser is enough. A lot of people ople that are in tret and have amazing skin say it's optimal for them. But who knows, it's possible not using enough could be an issue, I just didn't like the way that anon started their advice by being a wanker

>>18552888
Learn English.

>>18552707
maybe you should stop being a chud

>>18547565
>>18548192
thanks, i started using clotrimazole+hydrocortisone cream and its already starting to clear up. im a shut in neet 99% of the year so i never bothered to try and resolve it.

these are a godsend

>>18542774 (OP)
Is it possible to remove a scar? Got it a few years ago when I was shaving with a safety razor. It's really subtle but still annoys me

>>18550162
Are there any cases of people completely getting rid of seb derm? As in, not needing medicinal/antifungal shampoo anymore? Would've liked to try no-poo one day but this condition makes it impossible.

>>18553067
Of course. Ask a derm or plastic surgeon.

>>18553098
What’s no poo???

>>18542774 (OP)
What would you guys recommend to someone who has always struggled with extremely oily skin?
I wash my face with twice a day with Cerave Blemish Control Cleanser and then use a light, gel moisturizer with hyaluronic acid from Nivea. Not even 30 minutes later and my face is oily as fuck again as if I didn't washed it at all. It looks all shiny and disgusting. I'm not a teenager anymore, I'm almost pushing 40 and I still have to deal with pimples and oily skin.

>>18554083
Tret. Adapalane. Tazatotene.
Accutane.
Then you’ll have the opposite issue lol.

>>18554083
isotretinoin
see your derm. it's a fucking god send.

>>18553098
Yeah, with accutane. It's not just for acne.

>>18553948
No shampoo and washing your head with just water.

Is the biodance collagen good if you just want to keep wrinkles and deep pores away?

Is there a way to get rid of Pearly penile papules other than laser treatments etc?

>>18555884
nope

>>18555917
No idea, mine gone after fapping a week or two, I didnt have any before that and got me scared kek.Use coconut oil, dont use it if you have nut allergy though.Maybe the massages work on the papules to get reabsorbed or some shit by the body.Dont pinch them or massage too hard too I guess.

>>18556044
What do you recommend as a daily skin mask?

>>18556601
masks are redundant
>daily skin mask
what do you want it to do? maybe we can advise something better

>>18556663
I'm just looking for anti wrinkle stuff. I'm 28 now and want to maintain healthy looking skin into my forties and fifties

>>18556665
Anything that produces collagen - retinoids, high concentration glycolic acid products (eg the ordinary peeling solution), copper peptides, some say vitamin c.
And obviously sunscreen for prevention.

Masks are used to upsell you one-time use products of the same stuff thats widely available on the market imo.

>>18556804
So just cream in the morning is the way to do it?

>>18556805
No. Cream as in sunscreen is just to prevent.
If you want to do more (and seems like you do), retinoids or glycolic acid should be applied in the PM routine because they are photosensitive themselves but also make your skin photosensitive. So if you use them you have to use sunscreen anyway or you will get burns on face when going out. Vitamin C is fine to be used in the morning (apparently it provides additional protection against the sun as well)

If you are new to this, get sunscreen and retinol and maybe cleanser to wash off sunscreen properly. See how it goes and if you can be consistent

>>18556815
I'm not totally new, I use sunscreen and a moisturizer daily right now. So you'd recommend I add retinol in the evening, and add vitamin C in the morning?

>>18556816
Pretty much.
Some say vitamin C is useless and I think it varies from case to case. I only use it during summer when I'm getting a lot of sunlight.
Glycolic acid has more research data than vitamin C so I will leave it up to you which one to go for (or go for both!).
If you will be considering glycolic acid in the near future, get something like 7-15% glycolic acid content if it is your first AHA (preferably smaller bottle) and then when you use it up (and your skin adapts), go for the The Ordinary AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution or anything similar that is available in your region.

Hey guys will it turn me homosexual if I use an aftershave balm? thx in advance

Hey boys, I've never thought of doing a skincare routine but thought I'd give it a try. How do these skincare products interact with shaving?

I shave every morning, do I put on a cleanser first, then shave, then put on an aftershave balm and then moisturize the rest of my face? Do I moisturize my entire face?

i put on aftershave balm as a moisturizer and it makes my skin look and feel pretty good

>>18557045
everyone on the interwebs told me that your moisturizer has to have anti UV properties or that I'd have to put on sunscreen - I'd rather do just the balm+moisturizer since I have those, not the balm+sunscreen - what then?

what does it mean if my nose/cheeks are flaky/dry, but when i moisturize it comes off as super oily after a bit of time, that i then have to blot my face to look matte/normal?

i have a routine that manages it to an okay degree, but in the shower lately it's like toward the end of it, my skin is soft enough that if i start just rubbing my nose with my hands, i get a lot of dead skin rolling up and off of it. i know that shit isn't normal. i heard it could be caused by over exfoliation, but i calmed that routine down to once a week and it seemed like the dead skin problem only piled on worse.

what the fuck yo? what do?

>>18550254
>>18551133
I asked about Bioderma Intensive Baume because I read this particular thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/tretinoin/comments/1lqgahy/switched_moisturizer_and_now_i_can_tolerate_tret/
That person (and the comments) said that product is magical and now he can use tret everyday with no issue.

Of course, later he posted https://old.reddit.com/r/tretinoin/comments/1ntajw8/8_months_on_tretinoin_005_gel_but_still_breaking/ about how he can't build tolerance to tret beyond 3 times per week.

Motherfucker didn't even bother to edit his older post. So evil and selfish.

>>18543749
Nta but thanks this shit sucks I feel like the thing in the pan's labyrinth.

>>18557591
>I feel like the thing in the pan's labyrinth.
you know, pre weight loss that is but at least I don't have all that sagging skin rofl

What should I be doing differently? I'd like very smooth skin without any acne

>>18557689
wtf texture. See a derm.

>>18557127
Don't rub too much. It will give you broken capillaries.

>>18557711
Yeah it's really weird, any idea what it is?

>>18557102
Do you not believe UV causes skin cancer? How about sunburn? Photoaging? Let me guess you don't believe in global warming too?

>>18557716
Milia I suppose.

>>18557591
Erm you are a woman

>>18557718
God it's so annoying when you search any condition on Google and it only shows you the most insanely extreme cases instead of something that could be helpful in identifying it

>>18557729
>>18557718
Just ordered retinol, I'll apply it after using a cleanser after work every day

>>18557717
Read my post more carefully, the moisturizer I use is anti UV. The anon was saying he uses his shaving balm as a moisturizer and since I reckon his aftershave isn't anti UV he's fucking up. But I'm new to this, hence the question, maybe he knows something I don't

>>18557689
Construct additional Pylons

>>18557755
kek

>>18557689
Milia is problematic, I have it and I was not able to get rid of it with retinoids or anything I've been using. I watched a vid somewhere some time ago saying derms don't even know what's the cause behind it.

>>18558508
Oh well. At least it isn't too aggressive on me

How do I fix dark eye circles? I'm pretty sure mine are genetic because I don't drink coffee and sleep 7 hours daily.

>>18557689
So much potential.
-Trim your glabella
-Trim your nose hairs
-Aquaphor Lip Balm
-Get a folding straight razor and go to town
-Get into a lower bodyfat percentage

https://files.catbox.moe/4tmi5q.jpg
What should I add?

>>18558905
Tret.

>>18558905
Also an AHA exfoliant.

>>18558775
Hydrate better. Sleep 8 hours daily. Moisturize.

>>18558905
any context? what you want to achieve? did you just buy these? otherwise it is hard to advise

>>18558796
The potential is a very nice complement, thank you
I need to pluck the nose hairs and glabella, I'm lazy about it
Will try lip balm
I have an electric razor I like but I admit it doesn't do as good a job as I'd like
I definitely need to get in much better shape, I used to be in good shape when I was living at home and could work out every day, I've been moving and I'm finally getting a house so I'll have a home gym again, I know body fat is the single biggest difference maker

>>18559281
I'm looking for general, a skincare routing for a 25 yo guy with mild acne.
Kinda new to this whole skincare thing

>>18554420
>>18554083
apparently accutane aka isotretinoin shrinks your brain and makes you into a sort of retard

>>18550254
>>18551133
>>18557560
So I bought Bioderma Atoderm Intensive Baume. Imo it's effective at calming my skin. It's not so red any more.
It's more effective than my current Illiyoon. But it's entirely possible Illiyoon's formulation just can't stand SEA temperature. My room is pretty hot, no air conditioner. And putting it in the fridge makes it really thick and hard to
squirt/apply.

Cost-wise, Bioderma is more expensive than Illiyoon. And Ceradan is even more expensive than Bioderma. But Ceradan is not that moisturizing on its own, need extra product to moisturize. At least on my face. But it's entirely possible Ceradan has more ceramide content.

Unfortunately Bioderma seems to give me small whiteheads. I remember Cerave did the same to my skin. I will try using it for a month or so.

I'm really thinking to switch to adapalene. Perhaps my skin is one of those who simply can't adapt to tret. Even though I used to use it when I was young just fine.

I feel like my routine has absolute ZERO effect on my skin, any ideas why ? Here's what I use :

Morning :
1. AHA/BHA toner (Paula's Choice 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant)
2. Sunscreen (Neutrogena Mineral Sunscreen SheerZinc SPF50)

Evening routine:
1. Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser
2. CeraVe Moisturizing Lotion

>>18560515
Zero is good. Unless you have acne, then I’d suggest double cleansing. Oil cleanser/micellar water + normal cleanser.
And a way to have the biggest effect of course would be tret/adapalene/tazarotene.

>>18543375
>will need botox
so whats up with botox? I got yet another botox done about a week ago, I did hot shower and medium TCA peel yesterday. How dangerous is that? AI says that you should not take a hot shower for 2 weeks after, at the same time I didnt know I would have such hard reaction to peel yesterday. Did I flush my money down the toilet, or is the fitness mafia right about the 24-48 hour time window period interval?

>>18560868
>AI says
Humanity is cooked.

>>18560923
yea I mean, those prompts tend to be hella over-protective, just in case of a lawsuit. Its a good place to start.

>>18561010
>Its a good place to start.
Humanity is doomed.

>>18561053
>Humanity is doomed.
well, if you are so smart mr smart-ass, what is the answer to my question. And no, you are not allowed to use chatGPT

>>18559352
continue with whatever is in your pic for the next 3-4 months and then come back to see what else needs fixing or putting more emphasis on
>>18560064
sorry to hear that anon. i often times use epiduo instead of taz cream. speaking of taz, is that available for you anywhere to try? apparently it is more sophisticated in terms of targeting specific receptors iirc
>>18560515
>ZERO effect
what effects are you expecting? post age and your skin issues
>>18558775
>dark eye circles
>genetic
we are both cooked anon
>>18557689
post routine

>>18552988
can anyone vouch for these? i was thinking about getting the cosrx set to try
>>18551660
maybe try messaging some kind of porn actors what they do to have a smooth dick on set
>>18548202
>How long can i take a break from tret before i lose progress?
hmm do you see any particular progress after one month?
anti aging "progress" is more about months or years. just take a break for however long you need desu. dont think about it. its a long term game, just like using sunscreen

>>18542774 (OP)
>Skincare
I have low-key seborrheic dermatitis under my beard. What can I use to moisturize that's easier to apply than fucking nivea? Shit's like ski sunscreen, cumbersome on beard.

>>18562182
>post routine
My gf made me revise a little bit so here's what I do now
In the shower, I put on cleanser and leave it on for a minute then wash it off
Once I'm out I put on moisturizer and sunscreen
After work I put on and wash off cleanser again, then put on retinol

Is popping and getting the whitehead out actually better than just letting in be? I normally let it be but they still last way too long

Do you need to apply tretinoin every single night to maintain? I've been using tretinoin 0.05% since august 2nd. I started out using it three times a week, then I moved to four times a week and two weeks ago I added in a fifth day and it caused the skin on my chin get wrinkled, red flaky and sting. I asked on reddit and they said you have to use tret every night and you can only use it 3 times a week after a year to maintain. I started using it every night 5 days ago and I have tons of acne on my lip area

>>18563925
>you can only use it 3 times a week after a year to maintain
>"maintain"
Imo, this is a reddit meme. Based on some random paper that redditors don't understand anyways.
Personally I see many examples on the internet of people who got great results without daily application.
Everyone's skin is different.

If your skin can't handle everyday application, then don't. Of course, you can only say that your skin can't after trying daily application for months. Good chance that the side effects will subside. Personally I would pause tret if everything stings though.

>>18563482
you may add chemical exfoliant at some point if you are after skinmaxxing. choose glycolic acid if possible and if your skin is not sensitive. as for acne, consider reviewing your diet/lifestyle. even too hot showers can cause this; make sure not to touch your face; try not eating dairy and processed food... there are many more tips like this in the archives im sure
>>18563676
i learned to leave them as long as possible or the pie/pih part will be longer. but this may not be the case for you and really depends on a pimple and your skin
>>18563925
let me ask to understand your thinking. what do you think would happen to pic related if he stops retinoids for a month?

>>18563482
you may add chemical exfoliant at some point if you are after skinmaxxing. choose glycolic acid if possible and if your skin is not sensitive. as for acne, consider reviewing your diet/lifestyle. even too hot showers can cause this; make sure not to touch your face; try not eating dairy and processed food... there are many more tips like this in the archives im sure
>>18563676
i learned to leave them as long as possible or the pie/pih part will be longer. but this may not be the case for you and really depends on a pimple and your skin
>>18563925
let me ask to understand your thinking. what do you think would happen to pic related if he stops retinoids for a month?

So fucking good, ~15 eurodollars for 250ml, very good value. This is first skincare product that has a scent I like. Fortunately not a problem for my skin.

Lol, I tried bepanthen baby ointment (5% panthenol, no zinc oxide) on my face. Twice. And if anything my skin is redder than ever. Kinda itchy too. Not sure if it’s a bad batch or something else.

>>18546281
Your eyebrows are a bigger problem

My back is "bumpy", probably from sleeping on my back or my shirt or something. Is the solution salicylic acid soap during the bath, moisturizer afterwards and praying to the korean skincare god?

Is it normal for my face/skin to become red when I apply moisturizer? (From the rubbing, not the moisturizer, I'm using basic bitch Cerave stuff.) Or do I have some untreated condition/sensitivity I don't know about?

>>18562295
I get seb derm on my eyebrows and the basic Cerave moisturizing cream seems to do the trick at keeping the flakes at bay. I think anything works as long as it doesn't have ingredients that interact badly with Malassezia. Find something in your stores and dump the ingredients list on
https://www.sezia.co/
to see if they're safe.

Should i use this instead of the topical one

Thoughts?

>>18568687
2 months with this

>>18568109
Of course not normal. If you apply moisturizer to your healthier skin, arm for example, they don't become red.

>>18568113
Lol, I fucking hate this fungal acne/malassezia pseudoscience. Everyone has a different list of what feeds the fungi.
Like your sezia website says it's safe, but others like skinsort and others say it's not. Because of the cetearyl alcohol.
Or like how coconut oil supposedly feeds the fungi, but many people cured their dandruff and seb derm with it.

>>18568768
Yeah we live in a clown world. People think we'll discover immortality in our lifetimes but we can't even cure dandruff consistently or balding. What a joke.

sunscreen is by far the most difficult product to find something you actually like

this piece of shit smells so fucking bad and remains that way
why are foids like this? why does everything need to have a fragrance?

>>18569050
also it's not even a gel
false advertising, that 2/2 Neutrogena products I do not like

now that it's almost november I should probably just find some 25-30 spf lightweight shit and call it a day, it's not like I'm going out much

>>18569050
>sunscreen is by far the most difficult product to find something you actually like
Expensive too.
And the manufactures have no integrity. >>18545479 >>18545616

>>18547570
maybe when you're young sure, but once you get older absolutely not, you can "out genetic" sun damage, gravity pulling your face down etc etc.

Guys wont tell the truth about their skincare either, i lie and tell people i do very basic shit when/if they ask because anything else would be embarrassing.


anyways

dry/sensitive skin

AM:
pyunkangyul low ph cleanser
nineless azelaic acid 10%
illiyoon ceramide ato cream
dokdo birchjuice sunscreen

PM:
roundlab dokdo oil cleanser
pyunkang yul low ph cleanser
(2-3 times a week)->Cosrx bha (let dry for 15-20 mins)
cosrx propolis toner
skin1004 pro-bio cica ampoule
illiyoon ceramide ato cream
MICRONEEDLING EVERY 4 WEEKS
derminator 2
9-needle cartridge
0.75mm for the face
1mm for scars and expression lines
1.25mm hairline and scalp
.25mm underye
NEEDLING SOLUTIONS USED:
BCN Tranexamic Acid
Dermaheal HSR


I'm 26 and people are astounded when i tell them this, makes dating a bit tricky since i dont go for super young girls (inb4 moralfag) but its funny seeing people from highschool either be super impressed or quietly seethe about it

>>18569200
forgot supplement stack, noticed im getting much higher quality healing after using this and just in general my skin feels great, i noticed that it sort of overlaps with ropemaxxing but i've always been a big jizz shooter so i've noticed no difference personally.

Saw Palmetto 320mg
Pumpkin Seed Oil 240mg
Flaxseed Oil 320mg
Vitamin D3 5000 IU
Vitamin K2 120mcg
Fish Oil 2500mg (EPA 1500mg / DHA 570mg)
Zinc 30mg
Copper 300mcg
Selenium 200mcg
L-Arginine 3g
L-Citrulline 3g
Magnesium Bisglycinate 400mg

>>18546513
just wear cerave then
>>18569200
>Guys wont tell the truth about their skincare either, i lie and tell people i do very basic shit when/if they ask because anything else would be embarrassing
what's there to be insecure of-
>9 steps pm, 4 steps am
holy shit
you better be looking like a kpop doll out there and/or have major face issues resolved because holy hell

>>18552824
i'm using it
i usually squeeze out a finger long line and then apply it all over my face and then rub the rest on my neck
initially it felt weird but i got used like after 3 days. you can't really notice you're wearing it since its so lightweight

>>18569219
>what's there to be insecure of
Yes, taking care of yourself to this extent definitely isn’t bordering on faggy LOL.

Women like the idea of a man with perfect skin, good coloring, and a great hairline, but once they see under the hood it’s a bit of a shock. They’re always shocked when you tell them every hot actor they flick their bean to does the same shit, if not way more involved/expensive stuff (exosomes, PRP, transplants, botox etc.)
>9 steps pm
Dude count with your fingers next time—it’s 5 steps (6 on BHA days), and the double cleanse shouldn’t even count as two separate steps since both are needed to remove sunscreen. So on no-sunscreen days it’s actually 4 steps PM since I skip the oil cleanse.

>>18569234
>Women like the idea of a man with perfect skin, good coloring, and a great hairline, but once they see under the hood it’s a bit of a shock.
everyone likes the idea of an attractive, well-functioning thing, and no one wants to see how it works, that doesn't only apply to women
>Dude count with your fingers next time
sorry
>Yes, taking care of yourself to this extent definitely isn’t bordering on faggy LOL
rewatch the opening sequence of american psycho and tell me if you had any homosexual thoughts watching a man describe a 10 step beauty routine

>>18569236
I didn’t mean to imply the fagginess was about ME wanting to fuck another man, i meant it more as this level of self-care that society’s collective consciousness typically reserves for the faggots.

>>18568106
could be anything - fungal infection, your laundry detergent, acne. so its hard to say whats the solution
>>18568109
post routine
>>18568679
it may help, i was prescribed this by derm together with zinc
>>18568687
cetaphil moisturizing lotion is really bad imo, especially the smell. the cleanser was not the best either but much better than lotion. i switched to cerave and its gazillion times better, also in terms of texture/effects
>>18569200
nice

My current routine sucks, how can I improve it? I have sensitive/oily skin.

Day:
- Cetaphil Derma Control Oil Removing Foam Wash
- Paula's Choice 2% BHA Exfoliant
- Cetaphil Oil Absorbing Moisturizer
- Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5%

Night:
- Same foam cleanser
- Cetaphil Night Moisturizer

I'm a massive newb to this desu, used this routine for a while but I realize it's not working and needs to change. Any advice, anons?

>>18569344
time to introduce retinoids in your pm routine desu. statistically they reduce sebum production but does not always work for everyone. i suggest cerave retinol (resurfacing serum) if its your first retinoid. further down the line would be getting a stronger retinoid like adapalene, tret or taz and last option would be accutane (strongest oral retinoids)

>>18569201
Just by chance, can you give a run down on how to go about supplements? This area always kind of confused me as it's either just a multivitamin or a full list like yours. Is there a way to see what you need?

>>18569379
Set specific goals first (better skin, more energy, hair health, whatever you're targeting), then look up what nutrients affect those goals that people are commonly deficient in, assuming you're not an epicurean psycho who eats beef liver/octopus/brazil nuts daily lol

Like everyone needs the basics - D3, magnesium, omega-3s (fish oil/flaxseed), zinc - these are common deficiencies regardless of YOUR specific goals.

But then I take saw palmetto for hair/DHT blocking, L-arginine + L-citrulline for circulation/blood flow, selenium for antioxidant support, etc based on MY specific goals. Don't just take 30 random things or rely on a multivitamin with shit-tier bioavailability.

tl;dr
start with the basics that almost everyone needs, then add specific supplements based on your goals.

>>18569371
Are my product choices bad? I'm mostly trying to get rid of whiteheads on my cheeks and this faint acne on my forehead. I could try the retinoid, I'm only 21 though so I don't know if it'd fair too well on my skin.

>>18569344
need sunscreen, and then an oil cleanser to double cleanse the sunscreen, you should also use the benzoyl peroxide in the PM, try to space harsher actives.

Are you letting the BHA sit on the skin for a while before proceeding to other steps? Lastly, using it should depend on how dry/sensitive you feel, monitor that dont just power through with daily use.

I've been losing weight recently. I started with 120kg, now at 110 with a goal weight of 80kg. Male in his late 30s. It's a lot of damage, but I'm trying my best to undo it.
My concern now is loose skin, and I want to start thinking about it now before I lose all the weight that I want.
Do you have any recommendations for lotions or something else that I can use on my body that would help me look less flabby when I'm finished?

>>18569480
You could lose the weight slowly or try dry fasting, which a lot of people claim really works.

>>18569394
>start with the basic deficiencies and build up from there
Sort of what I figured, I just tend to struggle with identifying what's actually deficient. Any type of blood work panel that'd be of use? That aside, I'll run down the various NIH fact sheets and start planning things from those

>>18569467
The lotion I use has sunscreen. I usually just put the BHA and then go on to the next step, so the lotion. So for my morning routine should I do something like

>oil cleanser to double cleanse the sunscreen
I'm assuming picrel won't work? My apologies if I sound like a total retard I'm still kind of early into this skincare stuff desu

>>18569200
pure unadulterated autism

Thinking about dropping Tret...

already do monthly microneedling and it blows it out of the water in terms of collagen & elastin production, and I feel Tret just holds me back so much as a dry/sensitive skin guy

>>18569399
>Are my product choices bad?
I don't see any particular hate on them. Maybe some anons said Paula's Choice sucks because it's expensive. But other that that, not really. If they work that's most important.
>I'm mostly trying to get rid of whiteheads on my cheeks and this faint acne on my forehead. I could try the retinoid, I'm only 21 though so I don't know if it'd fair too well on my skin.
Retinoids speed up cell turnover and they will help with acne. They won't prevent it though. For that, you need to look for root cause (usually related to lifestyle, environment you live in or something internal like hormones).
>>18569551
Your picrel will probably work on it's own if it is a foaming cleanser. Some people use cleansing oil before foaming cleanser as it works a little better together but imo it is as optional as toners; some say you need it, some say you don't.
And if you use a gentle hydrating cleanser (because there are people who bomb their faces with gazillion products a day and are extremely sensitive) like the green Cerave then it has not enough cleansing power to get rid of sunscreen on it's own I think. That's where cleansing oil will help. It is a good option for people with sensitive or irritated skin.

>>18570103
What tret concentration do you use

>>18570103
This is exactly me and why i started using the microneedling part of my routine >>18569200.
I used retin-a 0.025 for 2 years, 0.05 for half a year, my skin looked great but it was constantly sensitized and needed babying, it was annoying as fuck. Dropped it for microneedling half a year ago and never looked back, the collagen benefits absolutely mog tret, and i only have to deal with a couple of days of sensitivity.

A more robust collagen matrix makes break outs less likely too, i rarely get acne these days, or it fades within the day.

>>18570102
Better autistic fixation than trains or star wars, gives me a routine that even my dermatologist i see occasionally respects.
Also it helps me with pussy

another skin infection on my face...

What are these little bumps under people's eyes called? At first I thought they were uncommon but now I'm wondering if they just aren't as visible because most actors and models wear foundation

>>18570591
Another self-diagnosis.

>>18570761
Milia? I personally don't have them. But you can always develop it spontaneously. Because skin is evil.

>>18570903
Milia is massive bumps those are tiny

>>18570901
Well it's a pus filled boil, it's definitely infected

>>18570159
0.1%
>>18570219
yes very annoying constantly dialing back routine and fine tuning cause of tret sides

>>18570219
>A more robust collagen matrix makes break outs less likely too, i rarely get acne these days
I noticed this exact same thing. Tret was raping my skin barrier a lot and I was overcompensating the acne with 4% Benzoyl Peroxide.

I dialed it all back and my skin barrier healed and my 4% Benz bottle is sitting unused for months. Just no acne on the face anymore.

I'm going to say something people will think is anathema to skincare philosophy:

Getting a light tan for summer won't destroy your skin assuming you otherwise use sunscreen regularly after acquiring said tan and regularly stimulate collage and elastin and use vit C in the summer as well to mitigate sun damage

We don't need to be pale vampires year-round

im a 23 year old male, is it over? is the damage done? if i start caring now will i last until 40+?

Hey do those eye roller things work at all? I just found one someone got for me and am wondering if it's worth using.

>>18571748
Hmm, for anti-aging purposes 0,025% tret is enough from what I hear. 0,1% is more for acne. Unless it works for you then idk
>>18572117
If yo mama was not applying strongest tret possible on your face since the day you were born you are cooked

>>18572289
>Hmm, for anti-aging purposes 0,025% tret is enough from what I hear. 0,1% is more for acne. Unless it works for you then idk
I'll probably just switch to retinol if anything
there are retinol concentrations that in certain studies compete with tret while offering less sides so something to look into

>don't do skincare routine
>spotless skin, but very dry and not pleasant to the touch
>do skincare routine
>soft and pleasant to the touch skin, but constant nose and forehead pimples
I wish this was easier.

>>18545616
What a disaster!

https://youtu.be/KjrSlbBATV0

How should one go about preserving one's physical youth as long as possible. No drugs or surgeries, please. Rather, I am looking for advice on skincare, diet, and lifestyle.

>>18543472
Where can I get this ?
(Eu)

>>18573596
I just noticed that I exported that with low quality. Here is a higher quality image in case someone posts it somewhere else.

is it worth using a exfoliator when im blasting my face with benzoyl peroxide everyday

>>18573876
>How should one go about preserving one's physical youth as long as possible.
I meant that as a question, of course, as in, "How should one go about preserving one's physical youth as long as possible?"
Not sure why it took me this long to notice that typo.

Is Horace skincare good?

>>18575327
I would check online reviews

>>18575348
seems good

Is there any way to make your hair less greasy besides taking a shower?

trying to start caring more significantly about skincare beyond whatever random crap is on sale at cvs but i dont really know what im doing, is there any glaring mistakes in this purchase list?
the plan is, cerave foaming for my face in the morning and at night
the cerave lotion+sunscreen for the face in the morning (i will get body sunscreen once winter/fall ends)
the retinol for the face in the morning (should i do this twice a day?)
panoxyl creamy wash for my back at night (my plan is to just step out of the shower to do this since thats what i do to wash my face already, is that retarded? i know it needs to set for a few minutes so idk)
the vanicream lotion for body and face at night (should i get two different lotions for face and body if its only being applied before bed?)
im trying to stay relatively cheap for my first few purchases just incase one of these just dont work on my skin but im more than open to suggestions.
im also open to razor suggestions because ive been using this dogshit electric razor since forever and im sick and tired of it. ive heard good things about double edged razors but i have no idea which ones are cheap trash and which ones are overpriced scams.

>>18575590
Amazon has a lot of fakes.
I honestly don't recommend immediately starting with retinol and benzoyl peroxide. Vanicream cleanser + moisturizer will go a long way.

>>18575590
i'd do the retinol at night
i would just get a parker(what i use) or merkur for a safety razor

Start using AHA 10% BHA 2% today, my skin feels pretty good

>>18576427
Also ordered niacinamide 10%, retinol 3%, copper tripeptide 3%, and argireline 10%, 30ml each.
I’ve never done any of this skincareshits before, and it seems so complicated, so I think I’ll just use one of them each night. Is that a good idea?

>>18571774
>Getting a light tan for summer won't destroy your skin
idk why people assume no sun is the way of this thread. nobody says that. there are few people who say they dont go out or want to be a vampire but thats it. in general you need sun for other biological processes in your body, not only skincare
>>18573269
sounds like moisturizer is all you need. try different ones and see how it goes.
sometimes introducing anything will cause certain effects (like it did for you) because skin needs to adapt. there were anons in the past who had "purging" after introducing new moisturizer or exfoliator
>>18573596
would love to see this test for eu and kbeauty sunscreens
>>18573876
there are books about this topic, start there. in terms of skincare, The Basic Routine and maybe some additions that help produce collagen if you want to bother
>>18574150
you might get more benefits alternating exfoliator and bp

>>18575586
more gentle shampoo and conditioner fixed that issue for me
>>18575590
>is there any glaring mistakes in this purchase list?
no, unless its your first retinoid. then get something with lower concentration
>retinol for the face in the morning
wrong. its photosensitive so sun will render it non efficient. use at pm only
>is that retarded?
no need to leave shower just stop water if thats okay unless i did not understand
>i know it needs to set for a few minutes so idk)
yeah certain actives work better if left for a few minutes on skin. i do that with salicylic acid wash
>vanicream lotion
if it works on your face thats cool, keep using it. i use cerave body lotion on my face. used to use cetaphil and lrp lipikar baume too
>open to suggestions
get sunscreen and cleanser first. do it for 2 weeks and see how consistent you can be. this will also prevent putting too many new things on your face at once. some people can get irritated or break out from that

How the fuck can I get relatively cheap argan oil? There has to be some way I can just get some Moroccan fella to send me a keg of argan oil on the cheap rather than buying it through a network of middlemen that want to charge me
$30 for 2floz

How do I get rid of dark spots all over my body? I have nervous eczema and the itching and scratching has left me with ugly dark patches all over my body
Moisturiser doesn’t help
Need to buy something asap pls

>>18577078
>sounds like moisturizer is all you need. try different ones and see how it goes.
I did use only cleanser + moisturizer, both Cerave. Can even that cause purging breakouts? Maybe I should power through it, I was thinking sleeping was the culprit because I turn a lot in my bed and generally sleep on the side/stomach.

I've been thinking of using bleaching soaps to lighten the tone of my skin (its gotten pretty burnt to the high UV index where I live and I burn easily), should I? which ones do you guys recommend?

Does anyone have experience with home laser hair removal devices? I have tiny hairs everywhere on my face and I just want to nuke them + all body hair besides arms and legs.

>>18579027
>I have tiny hairs everywhere on my face
nigga what? are you a bear?

What for this?

Texturing/Enlarged pores on the cheek + horrible sebaceous filaments on the nose. (Plus some slight reddening)

I got these on sale and they're working better than the fancy natural soaps I bought. By better I mean they don't dry out my skin like crazy. Unless I'm missing something, they're more PH friendly and have a built in moisturizer. Is there some hidden chemical that makes these bad or is it just fear mongering because they have the scary name 'synthetic detergent bar' (smartly marketed as beauty bars).

>>18579221
for the nose pores you mean?
do a korean internet skin care routine they are legit the best

Tretinoin is good too but on low amounts it can cause skin redness in high amounts

also ur nose looks like taylor york, tom welling's its peculiar

Alright, this is my last idea. I'm going to stop taking melatonin to help me sleep. There's some anecdotal reports that it causes hormonal cystic acne in some people, which is basically what I've been having. Since it's a hormone supplement, it might have some kind of effect on the skin. Then again... it's just people posting on the internet saying "i took melatonin and then had acne," so who knows, though there is at least one legit case study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11079672/
I'll give it a couple weeks. If this doesn't work, I guess I'll contact my doctor. If they can't do anything... then time to go shopping for rope.

>>18578383
No help?

Do I need to go straight to tret or is retinol fine for now if I don't have really any skin damage or shit from years of being a shutin? Do retinoids help with acne? I still have some in my 20s. I am just now beginning my skincare journey and have been applying sunscreen religiously for le 2 weeks.

>>18579314
Thanks on the nose compliment hahaha, but my no se doesnt seem to look like theirs in reality, maybe its the camera angle idk

I meant for both the pores on the nose and for the enlarged (?) ones on the cheek.

Ill look into the korean routine

>>18579302
these are good, never seen anyone say anything bad about chemicals or whatever

what can you do against dull skin tone? i want to glow.
also does the redness from tret pass? it’s been 9-10 weeks ish and my face has had a perpetual redness but not embarrassing one, more like a sunburn

>>18579037
That's normal. Peach fuzz, nearly invisible. Face shaving fad was partly because of this.

>>18579027
>besides arms and legs
Why not full body at that point?

fucking useless niggers

Only my nose area is very oily and has a lot of blackheads, would adding a sa cleanser at night help with that? Or should I swap the hylaronic acid completely?
Current routine is
AM:
cerave hylauronic cleanser,
vit c gel from bevel
cerave spf+moisturizer.
PM its:
ceravehylauronic cleanser,
cerave resurfacing cream
(bevel pads 10% glycolic acid instead of resurfacing cream every 3 days).

>>18580023
try salicylic acid instead, clean the blackheads first then salicylic to reduce the size of the pores

I know face care is talked about, but what about the body specifically? Aside from exfoliating/moisturizing, is there anything that should be done for the body in particular? I guess adding onto that, any experience with hands and feet in particular?

>>18577312
contact importers for bulk offer
>>18577431
never heard of them and never seen anyone using it in these threads. they seem to be 10$ which is fairly cheap to try. just read the reviews to see if they are positive and make sure they are not bought (eg done by bots)
>>18579221
search for tina tanaka pore care videos on youtube. you dont need full on korean skincare routine, you just need one or two actives for this
>>18579322
hmm interesting, didnt know about this. might stop doing melatonin myself
>>18579434
if you want to rape your skin, with a non zero chance to hate skincare after you experience side effects, go for tret
otherwise try retinol first and let your skin adapt gradually
>>18579302
its quite a level up from a soap so they called it differently. it does not dry out your skin due to
>a built in moisturizer

>>18579517
>dull skin tone
perhaps 20 step korean skincare routine can sort that out. though i think you could replace it with exfoliation/retinoids and "glowing" sunscreen or heavy moisturizer or oil or whatever they use at the end of korean skincare
>does the redness from tret pass?
never had redness for 10 weeks straight from retinoids. perhaps they are not ideal for your skin? take a break and see how it goes
>>18580023
check out tina tanaka pore care vids on youtube
btw very nice routine
>>18580144
i think majority of people start thinking about body when they experience problems like bacne, redness, rashes, sunburn, dryness etc
if you dont experience any of this i wouldnt really bother doing anything, maybe getting body wash that has no sls/sles. but if you want to do a little more than that then first step would be probably using body lotion right after the shower to lock in the moisture. then you could consider an exfoliating body wash with BHA. leave it on for a minute or two - your skin will feel slightly smoother afterwards. dont use it too often or you will experience dryness.
>hands
well again you need to address issues you have. and even if its simple dryness its worth figuring out where it comes from (work conditions or soap you use at home etc).
if its work related then it depends on severity. some anons just used body lotion when they needed. a few others had to order special gloves and/or slug hands and put one time use plastic gloves before going to bed as part of their every day routine
>feet
if its about cracks/peeling skin then get urea cream 30% minimum and use pumice stone or some kind of feet scrubber, there was anon who recd some kind of metal one many threads ago. salt baths are also good for mine. dont forget to moisturize. you could also try slugging or putting urea cream on feet, then put on a plastic bag + a sock on top for the night though it might be uncomfortable

>>18580144
and also you might want to check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGgabnceoeU

>>18580273
>never had redness for 10 weeks straight from retinoids. perhaps they are not ideal for your skin? take a break and see how it goes
maybe I should drop down to a lower concentration? i'm on 0.25% daily. can't really take a break because it's got antibiotic as well (my derm will import antibiotic free tret for me since im only supposed to do 12 weeks on this one)

>>18580262
>hmm interesting, didnt know about this. might stop doing melatonin myself
It's been 3 nights, and so far it hasn't had any noticeable effect, positive or negative...

any tips on bleaching creams and soaps?

Thank you to everyone posting routines and info. It's helpful.
Kind of embarassing to ask but how do I shave body or lower region hair without ingrowns? Also I wish there was a haircare general other than the balding one cus I don't know what haircut would suit me, thinking of 1mg fin though
>>18547518
>La Roche Posay
I wish they weren't so expensive because their spf and moisturizer are perfect for me
>ETUDE SoonJung
Their foaming cleanser is the only shit that makes me feel actually clean after
>>18569200
>i dont go for super young girls (inb4 moralfag)
based
>>18579302
I like these perfectly well too anon
>>18580144
>body
Those Korean bath mitts work wonders for exfoliation and keratosis pilaris, otherwise I feel like body skin is way less picky about what you put on it
>feet
Pumice stones, nail care, and moisturizer. Again doesn't have to be complicated

>>18580144
Finding the correct body wash and moisturizer will eliminate most of the common issues imo. Like dry skin, keratosis pilaris, eczema, and such.
Easier said than done obviously.

Tried adapalene because tret seems to trigger eczema/sebderm-like scaly irritation on certain parts of my face. I personally don't find it gentler than tret. If anything my skin is redder in general on adapalene.

Anyways I randomly tried to apply terbinafine cream on the scaly irritation spots, and it helps a lot. I guess tret weakens my skin so much that it's easier for my skin to develop such fungal conditions. It's not a whole face thing. Just a few spots.

I also tried dandruff shampoo btw on my face, and it made things worse.

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