Thread 18567083

Hi, welcome to the watch thread.

/wt/ fully supports Rolex and decided to make it the official 4channel's brand of choice for the years 2025, 2026 and 2027 due to its tremendous contribution to the fine art of watchmaking.

Previous thread: >>18564677

Based thread. Love Rolex.

https://www.fin.guru/en/politica-y-sociedad/the-rolexchina-leak-on-manufacturing-qq38p71p8s

Rolexbros, our response?

>>18567115
Oh no, some literally who amerimutt just made some clickbait video, how will Rolex ever recover?

>>18567125
I think he's Italian actually?

6 wt threads

>>18567693
Some resellers or Rolex AD must be making them.
I've noticed the second someone declares another brand as as good or better than Rolex the thread dies and another one shilling Rolex springs up.

Shills ruin the hobby and they'll probably ruin the mechanical industry.
Clearly shills making it.

>>18567115
LOL at this.

The only reason I'd EVER consider a Rolex is because it was swiss made. If even 10% is made in China it holds no value to me more than any other brand.

>>18567933
the steel is cut in china
why do you think thinks have the machines?

the way i see it, they source the required steel and send it to the chink factory then ship elsewhere for finishing

>>18567933
If you want a watch where everything is made in-house, your only option in 2025 is Vostok.

>retards on 4chan who won't even spend 10 seconds doing their own research are claiming Rolexes are made in China because it fits their narrative and some retard Youtuber made a funny soiface on the thumbnail
You do realize pretty much everything is available online, right? All you need to do is read a PDF and try not to be a dishonest cunt for 5 minutes.

Rolex' sustainability report for 2023: https://media.rolex.com/rolexcom/about-rolex/corporate-social-responsibility/sustainability-report/pdf/2023-csr-sustainability-report-digital_en?utm_source=chatgpt.com
>Rolex produces their own alloys
>96% of the raw materials come from Switzerland, 1% from bordering countries (France, Germany, Austria, Italy), 2% from European countries, 1% from other countries (only Thailand and USA are named).
>Rolex claims to create, manufacture, assemble and test all their watches exclusively in their own installations in Switzerland

>inb4 "B-B-B-BUT THEY'RE LYING!!! THEY HAVE TO BE!!!"
They've been audited by Pricewaterhouse Coopers, major consulting company. Also the stakes are too high to lie on this kind of official and public report. If you're caught lying, you're done (and so is the one auditing you).

The same informations exist for literally every Swiss brand (it's a legal obligation here). The brands with a good reputation of doing pretty much in house and/or work with only Swiss subcontractors are known by everyone in the industry : Rolex, Patek, AP, JLC, Chopard and Omega.
(yes, Omega. Again, public informations).

>>18568000
this has all been debunked

>>18567083 (OP)
What's the point of owning/wearing an expensive watch when you can't even wear it freely in the West because some roadman negro will eventually rob it from you? Just use your phone or an Apple watch like rich people. Expensive watches are worn by new money LARPers and negroes.

>>18568025
ass

>>18568025
I've never seen ass cheek blackheads before.

>>18568000
It's time to take your meds, sister.
You're posting the same unhinged shit in every thread.

>>18568025
spider web

>>18568025
I wear gold watches all over and nobody notices or comments on them at all. Might as well be wearing gold colored timexes.

>>18568025
What's the point of living in the west at all at this point.
If you can't go out of your house without getting mugged or stabbed, maybe you should move to a safer zone.

>>18568336
and where would that be?

>>18568000
>source=chatgpt.com
What does this mean?

>>18568000
>2% from European countries, 1% from other countries (only Thailand and USA are named).
I'm curious which specific parts come from there. what can't the Swiss make that the Thais can?

>>18568360
Japan, Singapore, Iceland

>>18568000
Were you refuted by one of your Jap whores?

>>18568333
if you did wear gold colored casio you would get comments

>>18568409
They treat water resistance in a tank full of poor people's tears

>>18568418
Iceland isn't part of the West?

>>18568000
>claiming Rolexes are made in China

Proof your a shill, nobody on this thread appears to be making this claim.

Also not claiming Rolex makes their watches in china but it's likely the boxes, bracelets and bezels of at least some models may be.

Why?
Total watch production of Rolex likely exceeds most of Switzerland's TOTAL watch production.

Now riddle me this shill how can Rolex make more watches that would take Switzerland's entire nation of watchmakers to produce at the volumes claimed?

Either they are exaggerating their production, Switzerland massively under reports the amount of watches produced OR Rolex buys some parts outside of Switzerland that may be partially or fully made in China.

Math doesn't care about your emotions.

>0 watch pics
>endless shitflinging
>meanwhile /wt/ just dropped a new masterpiece of an OC picture
you know, those pics when posting your own watch isn't discouraged and hated?

yeah, I will stick to that thread. Goodbye.

>>18569096
>Total watch production of Rolex likely exceeds most of Switzerland's TOTAL watch production.

>>18568025
I want to drown in my own saliva with my head and face buried deep inside that thing

>>18568736
Are you a geography detective or something?

>>18568692
I gave my wife a casio a168 years ago and she loves and it's the only watch she's ever gotten compliments on. This has made her believe luxury watches are a waste of time.

bump

>>18569396
I have my wife a luxury watch and a Casio A168 and she only ever wears the Casio.
When I asked about it, she said she's afraid to damage the other watch and saves it for special occasions.
But she wears the Casio at weddings and anniversaries, too.

The copin' is hard ITT
Rolex ARE made in China, faggots.
Every other "luxury" brand too.
You got scamed.

I don't care where Rolexes are made because they stopped making their only good model (the oysterquartz)

What kind of watch should I wear when I watch my AD fucking my wife unprotected? Are there any style rules for this kind of situation?

>>18570119
Rolex Yachtmaster II in yellow gold.

>>18570095
>>18570095
>You got scamed.
I didn't buy anything though.

>39 replies
>2 pictures of a watch
Way to go.

>>18570245
You seem to be looking for the watch thread:
>>18567079

This here is the Rolex thread. Where no one posts pics cause no one is actually dumb enough to buy one.

>>18570119
The one he made you buy to get on the waitlist.

what does /fa/ think of the Casio Oceanus line?

>>18571236
>anus
lol

>>18571236
https://voca.ro/1hjpfUB2jCkk

>>18567980
They make hairsprings too?

>geriatric magnification bump
>atrocious Mercedes logo hour hand
>le slab case
>logo keeps getting bigger
These things are never addressed. The real reason Rolex is so popular is because it's a part of Jewish culture. Judeophiles love Rolex, that's why it's especially popular with middle-class people in the USA and India.

>>18572013
Go kill yourself you useless piece of shit. Tired of your dumb shit over and over.

>>18572037
This is also a part of their culture. You might think that this behavior incurs some sort of "negative karma" but they just transfer it to a chicken.
You'd better be wearing a kosher watch around these parts, goy!

>>18572037
Lmfao he mad

>>18572013
you forgot the blog on the dial

>>18572070
>blog on the dial
I like that. Gentile watchposting is a collaborative artform.

>>18572013
>t. 41-year old who is frustrated that women have failed to appreciate his “offbeat, edgy” humour for the past 26 years.

>>18572275
No wonder you're a poorfag, you're dumb as fuck.

>Rolex is owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, a private charitable trust based in Geneva, Switzerland.
>When Wilsdorf died in 1960, he left all of his shares in Rolex to the foundation.
>The foundation has no shareholders and is non-profit — its profits are reinvested into the company or donated to charitable causes in Switzerland, particularly in education, science, and the arts.

>>18571236
conservative invicta

>>18572304
>The founder of Rolex was childless.
>The company is now owned by a foundation and doesn't have to pay any taxes.
I didn't think it could get any more soulless lmao
And of course I reveal your cultural background and the first thing you do is attack the size of my wallet, like clockwork.

Bittercel is on a roll today! < :^)

>get a 35mm watch
>love how it feels and looks
>hate all my bigger watches
how do you go back?

>>18568320
>blackheads
actual virgin detected

>>18572304
FIFA is basically set up the same way and I DARE you to tell us their big wigs don't make money because "akshully it's a non-profit"
It's all about dodging taxes and you know it.

>>18572533
You don't. It's actually kind of a painful existence because you now have to endure seeing other people wearing oversized shitters and telling you it's not a man's watch if it's smaller than 40mm and you have to resist the urge to slap them across their uncultured mouth.

>>18572533
wrist curls and bouldering

>>18572533
You don't.

>>18572533
I wear my dinner plates and my XS shitters alternately. It balances out the size perspective.

I want it

peep this turny

>>18573891
>>18574323
>>18574402
>>18574431
WTF are you doing, this is not the trash thread.

>>18574448
good morning sir too many watch threads still alive sirs.

>>18574462
The strap that's too narrow is the cherry on the top, its give this Trashka some je-nay-say-kwa, some next level amateurism in chink watchmaking.

>>18574480
ahem

>>18574462
>This anoon gets two crowns and a genuine under-sized bond nato
It's not fair bros..

>>18567115


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>eveenne my cufkfcining reverseseoideal lastslsslonger at night thtan the fucking folex.

>>18574402
Why did they drop the turnograph? It's a better daily watch than a submariner for 90% of the people who want a submariner.

ID?

>>18576225
better pic

>>18576225
>>18576229

How much is a basic SEIKO with a black dial? I have other expensive hobbies.

>>18576230
>unreadable trash

>>18576230
>.in
SAAARRR

>>18576255
I'm not from India, that's just the site that the pic is from.

>>18576245
You can get a basic one for around 200, and a really good one for 500.

>>18576437
I use it to keep rhythm with my thrusts during coitus.

>>18576550
based

>>18576550
>tfw your Italian gf yells at the top of her lungs PRESTISSIMO but all you got left is moderato.

>>18576245
https://www.jomashop.com/seiko-essentials-quartz-black-dial-mens-watch-sur311.html

>>18576955
Can most women even distinguish prestissimo from vivace? Most like it closer to adagio anyway.

>>18571236
It sucks shit. G-Shock is better

Rolex Datejust 36mm or Cartier Santos Medium?

>>18577335
IWC Pilot 36mm

>>18576230
>Dick watch

>>18577345
patrician choice

>>18577882
What is the Parisian choice?

>>18579298
Cartier tank

What do I think about this squale?

What do you think? Timex is having a sale right now. For a quartz chrono it doesnt look bad.

just got Seiko SRPG35, read alot of movement issues on this watch? am i fucked?

>>18579388
hahaha dude seiko lmfao

Kofe time.

Reposting now that there's a living /wt/, had a little horology evening.
>OMEGA
My speedmaster was ready for pickup but the telemeter bezel wasn't perfectly aligned (yes I brought a loupe to check, yes, the last time I went in for service after the bezel popped off due to 'operator error' they also reinstalled it slightly off-center and I seethed for 5 years until now.) This time I'll only accept perfection. Back to waiting.
>CZAPEK
My first time seeing Czapek irl, they had lovely service and some nice pieces. My favorite two were the onyx dial with sapphire indices, and the meteorite green dial. The size was perfect, the bracelet was really nice, flexible, but it's a little flashy. They said they can order a matte one for me though. Movements were just unreal, you can find lots of macro footage online but honestly I'd say second only to Lange based on what I've actually held in my hands. 300m WR too. I've got a deposit down on SLGB005 so I'm holding off, but it can't hurt to look.
>ROLEX
I finally went in, quite friendly staff similar to Omega (also all Chinese), they let me try on GMTs, but they only had Zombie and Pepsi (I wanted rootbeer). Anons should be aware the rehauts were aligned. I was a little underwhelmed, maybe because I'm used to the speedmaster with bracelet, but they were a bit smaller and a lot lighter than I was expecting. Obviously the bracelets weren't sized for me, but given that the lugs are thick all the way to the ends, it did feel like it stuck out a bit near the edges of my wrist. Idk what I was expecting but they're just steel (and gold) sports watches. I really didn't like the colored ceramic though, it looks like shitty plastic to me. It's a no from me, but I will give some more thought to Czapek.

>>18579388
Seiko has a 3 year warranty. Any issues the movement has from the factory will appear in that time, so you can just have it fixed.

>>18579450
Czapek looks really nice. But why did they give themselves a Polish name?

>>18579454
It's a zombie brand claiming descent from Czapek, who was the original partner of Patek before Philippe. In reality they're a 2010s company and they're known for total transparency with their supply chain and customizability. For example the green meteorite comes with three different seconds hands (silver, red, or red tip). They said they can switch it out to whichever I prefer.

Czapek has the design language of a cheap dutch or scandi Kickstarter micro-brand. They're like Moser but somehow even worse.

>>18579462
I saw this in person and it's insane. There's way more depth to the ripples than I expected. Too bright for me though.
They're like Moser without the cringe, and they have better finishing and movement design.

>>18579463
I haven't seen this one but I've handled their integrated bracelet sports watch and another dressy one with 2 subdials (picrel). I'm not denying the quality is great but the design language of the Gentacope is completely uninspired and the other one is your usual bloated modern-retro boomer watch.

>>18579470
I agree that most of the Antarctiques are boring, but seeing the limited ones:
>onyx sapphire,
>green meteorite,
>purple storm (handpainted),
>diamond indices,
I was really impressed. The dials alone make the watches worthwhile, then you see the movement and it's just a bonus. I've never really fussed about bracelets, but they fit my wrist well at least. Also the guilloche on the dial you posted looks great irl. I want to see some parmigiani irl to compare the two. At this point my biggest criteria for a watch is "does it visually amaze me" which is counterbalanced by "is it too flashy for my tastes?"
These Czapeks hit the sweet spot. And with a miniscule lug-to-lug distance of 45mm they wear really well for a 40.5mm watch.

>>18579470
These fleur de lys hands tho

>>18579476
Parmigiani went in another dimension ever since Guido Terreni has been appointed CEO. The design and fit of the Tonda PF is really impressive. Such a pleasant watch to wear.

>>18579545
Waiting for their distributor near me to finish renovating their store.
I have 3 comments regarding PF:
1. I'm worried the dials will look "too empty" in person. I totally get what they're going for and I appreciate the lack of obnoxious branding but still, I prefer the space to be used somehow, unless it's a very dark dial.
2. My level of appreciation for the brand as a whole very low. I really like the Toric and Tonda based on photos/videos but some of their past models have been absolute atrocities.
3. While technically a vertically integrated manufacturer, they primarily sell their movements to other brands, and generally I don't like the idea of a non-purpose-built movement at that price.
But you never really know until you see it irl. I didn't expect to like Czapek but I just went in on a whim.

>>18579551
PF was shit-tier a few years ago. It's this italian nigga (who previously worked at Bvlgari) who saved the brand. He has a vision and understands luxury perfectly.

>>18579554
>He's wearing the toric perpetual calendar.
That's their masterpiece. Best perpetual calendar available, no bullshit moonphase, so clean. The gold movement is also beautiful, better than FP Journe.

>>18574462
>PASKA
:DDDDDDDDDDD

>>18579558
AYYY LMAOOO :DDdd

>>18579388
What kind of issues? You'll be fine.

>>18579589
I read specifically for the SRPG theres some issues where the watch would just stop randomly midday while in use, to be fair, i did look specifically for common problems. so maybe its not as widespread as it seems to be

>>18579545
IWC Mark XX fit the same.

>>18579642
No, it really doesn't.

LOL

>>18579388
imagine the smell

It's just not the same anymore bros..

>>18579756
This just made me wonder, is "faux patina" actually period correct? This film was made in 1962 and the lume looks as yellowed as the same watch looks today. Was lume actually just yellow back then? That would mean yellow lume today is actually not that strange.

Post your rolexes itt

>>18580104
The strap is to narrow, sweetie. Who cares about patina.

Every video/image shows a different dial color.
GS Boutique messaged me and said it's ready, I'll go later in the week.

>>18580319
It's a classic (Grand) Seiko dial, the color depends on how the light is hitting it. You'll get purple, pink, brown, black, and who knows what else. It'll be hard to photograph well.

>>18580391
I think a lot of videographers oversaturate the hell out of their footage. I'll know if I like it when I'm holding it in person. I'm looking for something that's more lavender than pink.

>>18580394
It is, it's quite dark i would say. Do post a few good pics once you get it.

>>18580399
No.

>>18580459
Dear anon who always replies on my behalf, this time you got it wrong. I WILL be posting pics of any cool watches I come across irl, just like I posted the Czapeks earlier.

Enjoy your shitters, fags.

>>18567083 (OP)
I finally went to a Grand Seiko shop to look at some of the watches in person. I thought they looked nice in pictures. But in person? They look and feel just like any other $100 Seiko.

Is this truly the best the japs have to offer? What an embarrassment.

>>18580472
Nigger why are you stealing my pics?

>>18580319
Isn't this like 36mm?

>>18580477
The first time I actually handled a GS irl I was completely stunned by how the zaratsu surfaces reflected the entire room around me in minute detail.

>>18580486
yeah I've been told to not wear my GS because it looks too flashy, I don't know what the other anon expects other than maybe a 48mm gold diver with a turquoise blue alligator strap

have any of you heard of jzoclub? sales linkedin dudebro that posts videos of richfags' collections. obviously inherently cringe but offers insight on how much semen you have to lap up to get those royal oaks and nautiluses. no i am not a shill

>>18580472
did you really need a glass to drink pool water ?

>>18580528
the glass is only to drink urine

>>18580319
I don't know if i like it or not.

The Rolex OP grape dial was always on my short list, but it's a classic sunburst dial. The texture on this is weird.

>>18580568
* my short list being

Rolex OP Grape Dial
Zenith El Primero Lupin
Parmigiani Tonda in beige
IWC ingenieur green dial
Platinum Tank Louis Cartier

>>18580528
Was tonic water and the fatigue just reposted my image.

>>18580652
*the faggot

>>18580566
One of these days I'll get the call for that sweet Swiss saleslady's urine. I've established a real good relationship with her by buying gallons of horse piss.

>>18580652
>fake grass
poverty

should i buy this 2por? i already got an omega speedy and not interested in another one (seamaster)

>>18580806
I like it, it' not versatile but i like it (unlike the teal and shiny one).

But 2026 is the 100 years of Tudor, so personally i wouldn't buy any Tudor before Watches and Wonders 2026.

>>18580810
Im not expecting anything super special from tudor for their 100 year anniversary desu

even if someone cool comes i expect it to be sold out in australia or overpriced for what im willing to pay for a tudor