Thread 18584750

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - TEACORE HORSEHIDE EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

PREV>>18578213

first for pointy fagboots

I would like to ask for (you)r opinion on sole types, which ones do you have experience with, which ones were good or bad in your experience, which ones made you lose family members.

>>18584787
I like commando soles because the stitching doesn’t come into contact with the floor or land you’re walking on.

I’ve also tried natural rubber outsoles and they’re much heavier and much more durable than what people seem to think.

pointy fagboots in size 5 owner reporting in.
Where would I find good squared toe fagboots?

>>18584817
Post your bare feet.

Should i get any of those? I want something wearable in a bit of snow, doesnt have to be warm
there's also jim green 719 but the sole doesnt have lugs
never had any real boots
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514386-tobacco-waxy-calf-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514391-snuff-waxy-kudu-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514667-oak-saddle-calf-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514686-autumn-spice-waxy-kudu-e

Should i get any of those? I want something wearable in a bit of snow, doesnt have to be warm
there's also jim green 719 but the sole doesnt have lugs
never had any real boots, toebox looks a bit narrow honestly not sure if i should be worried about it
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514386-tobacco-waxy-calf-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514391-snuff-waxy-kudu-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514667-oak-saddle-calf-e
https://eu.meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514686-autumn-spice-waxy-kudu-e

>>18584826
>Memein

>>18584830
elaborate

>>18584831
>Meermeme

>>18584822
consider killing yourself asap

>>18584831
they use a very poorly shaped c*lastic heel counter that makes break in very very painful

>>18584834
>he doesn’t want to see size 5 fag feet
I think you might just be severely uncultured.

>>18584835
on all of their boots?
what are my other options then? europe, preferably below or around 250USD

>>18584837
pretty sure they use the same heel counter on all of their shoes if you just look up meermin painful break in you'll see plenty of complaints. obviously the pain can be mitigated with proper socks and break in practices

What are some good EU boot brands?

>>18584837
>preferably below or around 250USD
used
>>18584842
the usuals

>>18584842
Astorflex, Lanx, Sendra, LeCortina, Skolyx, Carmina, Tlb Mallorca, Fracap, Il Gergo, Paraboot, Sassetti, Dundas, Meindl

https://shoegazing.com/2024/12/22/buyers-guide-european-workwear-boot-brands/

>>18584845
i'm not buying shit i cant return

Are boots supposed to be rocking like this?
They are rocking when I wear them too.
https://files.catbox.moe/4l6gi2.mp4

>>18584846
>mentioning stuff no one has heard of
>not mentioning huge british and french brands

>>18584858
happens with single unit soles

>>18584867
Anon mentioned Paraboots. Britain is not EU. What is the stuff no one has heard of?

>>18584837
He's lying. He's a lying sniveling (((pnw))) larper. Meermin use leather heel counters. Not that it matters.

A lot of people in this general overpaid for their boots and gets upset if you don't too. Meermin makes good value boots.

Where can I get wooden shoe trees for $10? And why is sustainable a red flag?

>>18584891
Whats Jewish about the pnw bootmakers?

>>18584891
pnw worshippers are so retarded actually

>>18584891
where did you get that image from?

>>18584893
>Where can I get wooden shoe trees for $10?
at some store that sells bad shoetrees that will mess up your shoes
>And why is sustainable a red flag?
irrelevant meme marketing slogan

>>18584900
It's on their website at random webpages
>https://meermin.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/514386-tobacco-waxy-calf-e
Just scroll down

>>18584901
How is leather from factory farmed animals or thebyproduct of meat equivalent to leather from animals killed during conservation efforts? The environmental impact is quantifiable and morally there's a difference too. If your favorite brand doesn't sell any, that's fine but it's not the same.

>>18584894
>>18584897
>>18584891
tf is pnw?
also thanks i was totally going to just ignore them but they seem good

>>18584902
>make the heel counter leather
>but foam underfoot

>>18584909
>tf is pnw
A marketing operation for soi faggots who think they’re workers in 19th century America

>>18584911
doesnt iron ranger also have cork filling

>>18584902
i mean its cool that they switched from the c*lastic heel stiffners to leather
>>18584913
foam and cork are both less desirable than full leather but foam is more undesirable than cork

>>18584911
I guess they have to distinguish themselves from everyone else somehow. So they came up with "flex goodyear welted". Easy to change whenever you resole them though.

Besides it's clearly not a money saving thing.

I really like these boots but there's almost zero pics or reviews of them online.
https://divisionroadinc.com/products/trickers-churchill-boot-4497-commando-cf-stead-ebony-waxed-kudu?_pos=3&_psq=Trickers+church&_ss=e&_v=1.0

>>18584921 forgot pic

>>18584891
I'm not even pro pnw and all I've ever heard about meermin is that the heel counter will hurt you

meermin painful break is a thing

>>18584928
Yeah and painful break in is the hallmark of a bad boot!

>>18584847
then increase your budget

How does the rest of your fit look like with your boots?

>>18584925
>>18584921

>>18584938
good to the point where randos will ask to take photos of me on the street

>>18584936
iron rangers are $400 here

>>18584943
your weak currency is not /btg/'s fault and doesn't change the recommended boots

>>18584947
euro is the second strongest currency on the planet after pound sterling you fucking imbecile dollar down 10-15% since may too

>>18584921
>almost zero pics or reviews of them online
means nothing.

Actually, it’s a good sign. Indicates that they’re not worn by redditor subhumans.

>>18584947
also this has fuck all to do with the price it only affects affordability relative to the cost of living

>>18584949
Just bought them lmao. Just a leather jacket next and I'll pretend to be someone entirely different once I move cities next week

>>18584948
>>18584950
>europoors in charge of understand currency

>>18584958
Based

ngl i think horsebutt is ugly as shit. what do you guys think? i cant stop thinking that they look plastic-y, and those lines in the leather just look tacky. awful.

>>18584974
Yes it’s atrociously pointless, ugly and pretentious.

maybe im ocd, but here is why i wont buy a 700 dollar pair of pnw boots: if you have a super nice pair of boots, it doesnt look right wearing them with a 30 dollar pair of levis or wranglers. so then you gotta buy a really nice pair of selvedge jeans. once you do that, you have to then invest in you upper half. you cant have amazing boots and jeans and wear a shitty mall jaqcket. so you gotta splurge on a 1,000 dollar horsehide jacket. i guess what im saying is, if u just have one really nice piece and cheap out on the rest of the outfit, it doesnt look right. but if everything is heritage , selvedge , horsehide , pnw boots, u look like a larper. so truly there is no winning

>>18584974
look like department store boots, half expect them to have a zipper on the side

>>18584909
nobody tell this nigger what it is

>>18584986
You’re an homosexual redneck who gets fucked in cargo trucks

>>18584982
you can just say
>i'm a faggot with no self control

>>18584974
>those lines in the leather
you mean the natural stretchmarks that an animal might have? honestly all your posts are so fucking retarded that a pair of doc martens would suit you perfectly

>>18584868
Is it a good thing yes or no? I wouldn't want my shoes tobe rocking while I'm standing

>>18584931
This, shoes that aren't comfortable simply aren't good. Muh break in period is just cope.

>>18584974
horseass is fine but I found that color particularly ugly

>>18584982
This is very true. In general I think it’s dumb to cheap out on shoes and boots because feet are the most important thing you should take care of. After you have a good pair of shoes (not necessarily pnw boots but also not red wings, fuck that shit: if undecided stick to humbler brands such as Rancourt and Astorflex) then you can pair them with nice vintage clothes which are usually great and long-lasting quality but also not expensive.

>>18584970
indian in charge of your keyboard you esl ape

Is waxed suede easy to care for? I need a fw boot

>>18584917
Pnw s8yshjts like whites and nicks do not even put leather as filler so what are you on about?

>>18585287
I don't think there's anything more beater than waxed suede

>>18585287
>Is waxed suede easy to care for?
yeah, just rewax a few spots every few years as the wax will naturally wear off

>anon shits on horseass
>parkhurst gives $50 off horseass with BOOTY code for the weekend

andrew confirmed lurker

Is this a flaw? Brand new grant stone's.

>>18585334
no. you can run the stitching off the end of the welt

>>18585356
It's only like this on one of the boots. Can you explain what happened here? What I gather is the stitching ended here and that's where the needle came out?

>>18585373
worker ran the machine a fraction of a second too long while stitching the welt

>>18585387
Gotcha. And I'm assuming it's just through the welt so won't have any issue on water resistance?

Tell me why I would ever need anything other than black boxcalf... All else looks like faggot mental illness to me

>>18585406
I feel bad about animals being kept in cages then killed without ever being able to live a natural life.

>>18585407
boo hoo faggot, it's gonna happen anyway so might as weel get some good boots

>>18585392
no issue

>>18585407
...you know boxcalf isn't made from calfs stored in boxes right?

>>18585418
next you're going to tell me tumbled leather doesn't involve pushing cows down a hill

>>18585427
anon, I.....

>>18585427
yes and vegtan leather isn't made out of vegetables

>>18585415
I'm not telling you what to do, that's just my perspective
>>18585417
Thanks! Shoes are awesome, fit great, feel awesome, the whole break in thing seems over exaggerated.
>>18585418
They're factory farmed and I feel that's unethical for me to participate in

>>18585430
yeah right and they don't turn the cow inside out to make roughout...

>>18585432
not quite, the machines used to make milkshakes if spun fast enough for long enough do in fact turn the cow inside out

>>18584750 (OP)
I'm looking for boots/shoes like these. Also what do you guys think of Thursday's boots quality? I haven't been here in like 5 years and even back then people were shitting all over them

>>18585518
>Also what do you guys think of Thursday's boots quality?
are you incapable of reading?

they are dogshit
>and even back then people were shitting all over them
at best nothing changed, at worst they got worse

>>18585407
You need to machiavellianism-maxx until you don't care anymore.

>>18585587
No, I should care more for the suffering I inflict.
Captcha: howdy

>>18585635
I'll make sure to inflict double the suffering then to make up for your attempt.
there's no reason at all to care about what is right and wrong even if one takes for granted the definition of such categories.
Get pointy fagboots and be happy.

>>18584982
Eh, I'm not so sure. I just ordered a pair of the White's Drifter 1s and I'm going to wear them with exactly that, band tees, Carhartt tees, hoodies, old flannels, cheap Levi's and Wranglers. It's only awkward if you're the type to fuss around with them and don't put any visible wear on them. I grew up around dudes who wore the high end Red Wing loggers with really nice sole rebuilds and the like, and all they wore were Harley Davidson merch and stonewashed mallbrand jeans lol. As long as you coordinate things a little and put a little wear on your boots they'll look fine.

>>18585646
What are your thoughts on jews?

>>18585406
The final redpill is that you should only ever use non-calf as roughout leather. Otherwise always calf.

I will not abide by this ultimate truth but that's just because I'm unfortunately still bluepilled in some ways. But in the afterlife I'm sure everyone will either wear calf or roughout boots.

>>18585334
>grant stone
They're chinkshit boots. It's pretty much a feature.

common projects chelsea or saint laurent wyatt? I think the former has more character, not sure how good their chelseas are however

>>18585700
the saint laurent its not even close

>>18585700
ysl is extremely overpriced and the heels are probably plastic but it's definitely better than the common projects if these are the only 2 options.

anyone have any experience w/ danner or mcrae boots? i want something edgy but i dont have teh money for ccp tornados or bikkemberg bungees so combat boots itll have to be

also how are the vintage ro search nam jungle boots if anyones tried those

>>18585687
Which retarded PNW boot did you buy? They owned up to the mistake and shipped me a new pair already. They're amazing outside of that QC error.

>>18584867
>>not mentioning huge british
not eu lol

>>18585700
>>18585701
Absolutely second option
Also, thoughts on these three. I already have regular black Chelsea's, and I am willing to spend a pretty penny

>>18585763
bikkembergs with the blue cord stands out better
also fuck you for having fuck you money im jelly

Is the verdict out on a decent engineer boot that won't break the bank? I'm in the market for a beater boot to fuck around with. Are the Schotts any good?

Never paid attention to my footwear until now. Brushed these after 7 years of use with a horse hair brush, applied saphir renovateur, and got new laces. How do I mask the fraying edges along the mouth? What dye/product do I need to blend the color?

>>18585785
Those aren't boots, anon, and the toebox has collapsed. Get rid of them.

>>18585788
I figured that's the case, but I am attached to them. Especially after I conditioned them today. I should have been taking care of them all these years. They're so comfy too. Any advice on a good all around shoe that is nicely made, can be dressed up for a nice dinner, dressed down with jeans or chinos, is rebuildable but I can run if the situation demands? (I'm James bond)

>>18585793
I mean, you could make them work, anon. I'm not saying they're unwearable, but they just make you look homeless. You could hobomaxx, and see if that works.

>>18585785
Nicely done

>>18585785
the trim is gone man

>>18585770
>decent engineer boot that won't break the bank? I'm in the market for a beater boot to fuck around with.
Not really, cheap engineer boots don't really exist anymore and they were never perfect or what is in style today if you wanted to go the used/ vintage route to score a deal.
Crush on retro is your best option for a budget engineer boot but they probably aren't going to last that long on a construction and materials standpoint and the dimensions are off on things like the shaft, they're super wide.

>>18585785
You could sand the remaining fraying then use black wax to dye it and make it look less destroyed.

What’s your opinion on Grenson?

>>18584890
>>18585733
EU can mean both European Union AND EUrope

>>18585832
triple welt and g one line are uk made, everything else is made in india trash.

>>18585843
no, eu only means european union

>>18585954
The general aesthetic in their g one line looks so good. These, for example.

>>18586010
those actually look pretty good, what leather? waxy commander?

I'm going to NEW YAWK CITY for work later this month, should I buy boots there or buy them now?

>>18586120
Buy them now and break them in.

>>18586102
They call it “rugged suede”. Here’s a photo of them in used condition:

>>18586010
>>18586140
chicken grease bait

>>18584974
I like horses so I won't wear them.

>>18584750 (OP)
does a blue shirt and beige pants pair up alright with a beige boot? If so, what specific type of boot?

>>18586242
service boot

The perfect boot collection is formed upon the four elements:
>black leather boots (air)
>tan suede boots (earth)
>blue duck boots (water)
>brown trekking boots (fire)
You seriously don’t need anything else.

>>18586260
or just get a black chelsea and never need another pair of boots ever again

>>18586263
No thanks, I hate the Beatles.

>>18586216
>>18586225
I dont get it

>>18584750 (OP)
What are the best pair of basic black boots?

>>18585214
Nothing wrong with Red Wings. They're a great option for people who want a high quality boot but don't want to pay a thousand dollars for it.

>>18586290
Dr Martens

>>18585518
Thursdays are made in Mexico garbage. They spend all their profits on marketing instead of figuring out how to produce a better product because they figured out that 90% of people don't actually need a high quality boot to begin with so they won't notice the difference.

>>18586295
Red Wings can take months to break in and even after the break in process is over they keep being significantly uncomfortable when compared to other boots. This, of course, makes them shit-tier boots.

>>18586300
Mine took about a month to break in, but now they're cozy as fuck. I've done many hikes in them and never gotten blisters aside from that first month.

>>18586302
There are countless people who know boots very well and when they own more boots and only one pair of them is RW, that one is always the pair that gets the least wearing time. So your opinion is useless.

>>18586297
>still the unmatched aesthetic
cope, seethe and dilate

you're quite familiar with dial8ing if you wear docs

>>18586307
>nooo you can't like a boot because a boot expert on YouTube said he didn't like them
imagine going through life thinking that other people's subjective experiences are more important than your own

>>18586307
>expert consensus

>>18586315
>>18586319
>no midsole & zero arch support
keep coping

>>18586285
looks like low quality leather, something indonesian or indian tier

>>18586290
sneedlovairs

>>18586328
>made in England since 1866

>>18586345
right, but again the leather (not the boots or craftsmanship) look low quality. i think the waxy commander is a better looking/higher quality leather. picrel

>>18586359
Couldn’t the shoes just be victim of a lack of leather care? >>18586140

ID on the guy's boots?

>>18586445

Ralph Lauren Alpine Leather Trail Boots?

>>18586460
thanks

>>18586460
The old purple label hiking boots were better

lmao what the fuck is wrong with this shit?

>>18586475
Looks fine

>>18586482
looks like if you asked ai to generate a picture from the input ‘ebony porn but it’s actually shoes’

>>18586495
I think your brain is rotted.

>>18586475
looks fantastic
>heel cup actually shaped like the back of your foot
>trim waist, wide toed
>proper pull loop

>>18586504
>>18586505
listen to me, Austin McMutt: no one takes pnw abominations seriously outside of your little gay niche, which is the niche of a niche. fix that into your brain champ

apparently they're so unpopular that
>it makes this guy seethe
>seethe so hard he has to post in the pnw general in a lame consensus cracking attempt
if they were as unpopular as you claim why would you be here

>>18586513
>pnw general
kys

>>18584982
fit/silhouette > all else. many people wear the wrong shit, like 511s when its not for them etc. if you fuck it up you will look like garbage even with denim jeans folded 9 thousand times by a 90 yo samurai that be 600 dollars plus tip btw.

>>18585770
Save up for Wescos.

>>18586299
What about their made in US range?

>>18586290
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/diesel-boot-black-waxed-commander

>>18586290
But in black

do docs go with chinos?

>>18586810
yes, but you must cuff the chinos, or else you'll look like some frumpy office worker

>>18586811
what about this type?

>>18586814
Those are Dr Martens?

>>18586840
no, i was thinking about those pants

what are the most comfortable boots after breaking in? like the idea of getting something that'll last me a while but i also want to wear every day, also im a cityfag not hiking or anything

>>18586945
white's are insanely comfortable

>>18586755
the made in US range has other problems, namely the last they used. they used a high heel but did not include a shelf for your arch so a lot of wearers are complaining that their foot slides forward very easily, basically they were mimicking the higher heeled lasts of PNW boots but not fully understanding WHY things are done that way for PNW boots

>>18585807
>>18586690
What engineer boots do you guys have, if you do own a pair?

>>18586981
wescos

>>18586963
does it miss anything by having a leather instead of a steel shank? I hear people like steel

>>18586994
steel shanks are commonly used because its cheaper to produce, a leather shank will yield and shape itself much better than steel for long term comfort

>>18586986
need these but pointier

>>18587013
clinch will be your best bet then

>>18586986
Are Schotts not worth it? If I'm getting a beater boot would just something from Schott or something similar be fine?

My White's came in. Picked them up for $500 during their father's day sale, worth every penny and every day of lead time holy shit.

>>18587333
sexo. now assume the position

>>18586994
>does it miss anything by having a leather instead of a steel shank?
Steel shanks are the industry standard because they're more rigid and thus offer more support than leather or fiberglass. The only excuse I've heard for leather shanks is that over time a shank will wear into the insole and you MIGHT feel it underfoot on older boots. You're basically hedging your bet for comfort in the long run by dealing with a less supportive boot with a leather shank.

>>18587335
maybemaybemaybe

>>18587333
>>18587339
>santa claus boots

>>18587339
>He doesn’t the boot and millennial selvage fold
Jesus Christ, this board sometimes.

>>18587402
esl noboots

>>18587402
>millenials invented cuffed jeans

>>18587409
It's funny how the zoomie baggy-copers always post old 40s/50s pictures of jeans that have big cuffs most of the time, then get all assmad about millennials cuffing. Bunch of goofballs

>>18587312
schott isn't a boot maker so they're just white labeling boots from some unknown maker which means its gonna be crapshoot whether its good or not

>>18586981
Wesco

>>18586981
I have a black pair from Sequoyah and a brown pair from Sendra.

>>18588039
>how many logos you want senpai
>yes

>>18586475
Those are a fine set of boots anon

>>18586981
I have these Whites engineers

>>18584750 (OP)
Looking for a boot with 4–6 cm heel thickness for heightmaxxing purposes, suggestions?

>>18588224
look for boots with v100 vibram soles

>>18588039
These look nice! I might spring for these, do you recommend?

Can't decide whether or not I like boondockers. Do I?

>>18588041
It's even worse nowadays, they stick a small metal logo on the side of the heel stack
>>18588232
Definitely, here are mine after 9 years of wear. They've been through mud, rain, snow, creeks and multiple hours of riding so they have their fair share of wear and tear. They still hold up remarkably well though I do brush and oil them regularly.

>>18588314
really depends on who makes them. there are a lot of interpretations of the concept out there in addition to faithful repros

>santa claus boots
You’re too early guys!

Tomorrow I am going to visit Attractions and Brass Tokyo, I know I can't actually wear any of their boots but it will be cool to see them. I'll look for some Red Wing stuff later. What other boot shops should I check while in Japan? I am thinking about going to Zerrows before I leave to see if I could actually fit any of their boots since they do EE widths.

qway lost

>tfw Alden doesn't have my shoe size
what the fuck am I supposed to do now if I want some faggy oxfords...

>>18588517
try one of their stockist?

>>18584835
>very very painful
4 u

>>18588536
wym, a retailer? there aren't any near where I live.

>>18588449
the stumptown shibuya store has/used to have the made in japan "100 whites" models, maybe worth checking out if they still have them
probably already sold out since the maker moved to taiwan to work with dr. sole and now does MTM custom builds on istagram, not on the original whites lasts anymore

>>18588451
take pics

>>18584750 (OP)
Looking for a good pair of basic black zip boots. How do we feel about the Paul boots from Frye?

>>18589048
>z*p
non starter

>>18586981
I have a vintage pair of Harley Davidson engineer boots, they got ruined by some weird glue in the insole though.

Is it possible for me to take a pair of leather work boots and have them resoled with different soles? I have no idea about any of this shit so don’t bully.

>>18589061
what brand

Japan chooses some weird makeups. I saw a guy wearing something similar a couple nights ago, black for the shaft and then some light brown reptile for the vamp. It's also weird to see White's in the wild for the first time in another country.

>>18589079
hm interesting, could do without the lineman patch though

>>18589079
looking rough and i dont mean the leather

Are there any like casual shoes that aren't boots but look close enough to boots? I can't find nothing but streetwear looking gay sneakers or just the worst looking old man sketchers garbage

>>18589124
Was thinking something more like this. Leather boot looking but with a sneaker type bottom

>>18589117
i got these from baker's

>>18589141
: (

>>18589133
You can probably find some monkey boots with a sneaker sole or get a similar look with a wedge sole.

>>18589133
https://www.goral-shoes.co.uk/products/the-smugs-horween-black

>>18589051
Why, exactly? Are you just saying that because the OP always says so?

>>18589170
unnecessary critical failure point and water ingress point

>>18589171
Then just fucking say that next time.
>water ingress point
So is the top of the boot where you put your foot in bro

>>18589171
Actually I just have several questions now. How deep are the puddles you're stepping in? What about a low-cut shoe? What about chelsea boots? What's your point?