>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76240349

>>76245455
did you have that much of a stomach when sitting down before? what the fuck did you do with your diet?

>>76245455

>>76245504
so you need to realise another thing which is that bad things are bad for you and they only hurt you so boom easier to not eat/drink them
could employ a strategy of thinking that it's your parents' stuff and you're not gonna touch it cuz it's theirs
>>76245506
>You do. Fat cells don't ever stop signalling.
no, you don't, the only people who maybe have 24/7 cravings are serious drug addicts not fatties
>How long have you been doing that?
irrelevant
if I say days - you'll laugh
if I say months - you'll say oh that's short and it's gonna get harder soon and that I'll faulter
if I say years - you'll say oh you got lucky with being able to do that
what I'm gonna leave it at is that it's possbile and it works
I also don't want to sound like a perfect person that never breaks
I'm human so I sometimes do but the amount of times when it happens has been drastically reduced
I need to hit my protein goals first while staying in a certain calorie budget so that eliminates salty snacks
sweets have onions lecithins and seed oils so I don't even want to touch them
alcohol is literal poison and it inhibits muscle protein synthesis I also feel like shit and act stupid after it
>I am being realistic here.
it's your choice how much/long you sleep, only once you go under 6 hours is when it's hard to control yourself
and stress is an integral part of life, manage it psychologically or by getting out of it

another thing to do is think about how overeating got you to where you are now and how much being fat sucks

>>76245513
>Sometimes that slice of cake is actually conducive to your goals and that takes an even deeper level of maturity than always rejecting it.
diet breaks should only be considered for very long diet streaks or for lean people but yes if a diet break helps keep the diet going then it helps your goals and is good
but you can't take it to the extreme of "I need a diet break once a week because I'm a fat faggot with no self control" which would defeat the point

SUGAR IN THE ABSENCE OF FAT

>>76245910 (OP)
fatty contest
Gulag chan
277.2lbs

>>76245940
>no, you don't, the only people who maybe have 24/7 cravings are serious drug addicts not fatties
Food addiction is real. This is why GLP1 work so fucking well when nothing else does.
>irrelevant
It is not. Studies consistedly point out how people regain everything within years of losing weight the natural way.
>it's your choice how much/long you sleep, only once you go under 6 hours is when it's hard to control yourself
Sleep quality can be affected by various factors. If you're a school kid or neet I mean I get that you don't understand how stressful the real world can be which severely impacts sleep quality.
>and stress is an integral part of life, manage it psychologically or by getting out of it
LMAO you have zero life experience. Sheltered kid.
>another thing to do is think about how overeating got you to where you are now and how much being fat sucks
And that just leads to even more stress which leads to overeating.

>>76245940
>diet breaks should only be considered for very long diet streaks or for lean people but yes if a diet break helps keep the diet going then it helps your goals and is good
>but you can't take it to the extreme of "I need a diet break once a week because I'm a fat faggot with no self control" which would defeat the point
Yep diet breaks are every 8-12 weeks. That said a slice of cake wont harm anything if its kept to a minimum and fits your calorie goal. Also a cheat meal once a month isnt a bad idea either. Its part of learning to eat like a normal person. Think of an alcoholic scared of binging eventually being cured when they can have a few beers at a monthly social gathering.

>>76245983
''food addiction'' is a byproduct of a lot of other stuff going on at the same time. those people are being set up for failure

How much more weight do I have to lose to get rid of my disgusting love handles? I'm 152lbs 5'6 in this pic (69kg 167cm).
Should I do an aggressive 1k cal cut, which would be around 1200-1300cal a day for my current TDEE or just start slow and steady with a 500cal deficit?

>>76246018
Or just accept that you're addicted to food and either suffer from hunger for the rest of your life or pay the $100-500 a month for GLP1.

>>76246022
What worked for me in regards to love handles a few years back was multi-day water fasting. It's really difficult to not refeed afterwards though and probably best to do with assistence of GLP1.

>>76246032
I can't really afford a GLP1 at the moment but I'm willing to try a few water fasts, the only issue for me have been the reboots after fasting.

Bros

How do you guys deal with constant hunger? I'm taking mounjaro/ozempic to try and deal, because my problem is I am legitimately always hungry.

I work in a job where tl;dr I sit in cars in random locations all day for random times, so I have legitimately no routine either.

280lbs at the moment, the heaviest I've ever been. A healthy weight for me with my height and frame is 200 - 220lbs.

>>76246041
fruits vegetables and greek yogurt

>>76246041
sugar diet fixed that for me unironically
i'm just not really hungry anymore after meals

>>76246041
According to my parents, I had always been craving food ever since I was a little kid. It's just in my genes and without MJ I would only gain weight.
If you're still feeling hunger on MJ, try to up your dose or add gray-market cagrilitinde.

I really want to believe people join these threads to troll me.

FattyContest
tuna
252lbs

I really let myself go over the winter but im not getting off this ride yet
still 50lbs down from my highest
copium

>>76246059
>tuna
(doubt)

>>76245983
>Food addiction is real.
and it's easier to break it than some other addicitons
>It is not. Studies consistedly point out how people regain everything within years of losing weight the natural way.
here you got confused on what you were replying to but anyway, people regain weight because they 1. don't learn good habits 2. are retarded and forget how shit it was to be fat and hard it was to lose it
>Sleep quality can be affected by various factors.
yeah like when you go to sleep, when you wake up and what you do before bed
>I get that you don't understand how stressful the real world can be which severely impacts sleep quality.
boo hoo just go to sleep
once you see how much it hurts and how much it sucks you just do it
>LMAO you have zero life experience. Sheltered kid.
I'm sheltered because I deal with stress without ruining my health through addictions? strange "logic"
>And that just leads to even more stress which leads to overeating.
lmao no, if that causes you to overat then you're NGMI

>>76246016
>That said a slice of cake wont harm anything if its kept to a minimum and fits your calorie goal.
keeping it to a minimum is hard at first but afterwards if it's an actual minimum then yes
ironically enough prohibitng yourself from eating "bad" foods can be just as bad for you mentally i.e. orthorexia

>>76246041
>A healthy weight for me with my height and frame is 200 - 220lbs.
No it's not. Nobody needs to weigh over 180lbs. I guarantee you won't even START looking decent until 170lbs.

>>76246041
Try fasting, after a 72hour fast all my cravings and appetite was gone. It was like a voice that had always been there was suddenly silenced and I was finally free of it.

That said it came back as soon as I had some sweets like a month later and I had to fast again for 72hours to make it go away once again.

I think sugar and excess carbs just make you hungry all the time and you have to get it out of your system to be free once again.

>>76246063
>and it's easier to break it than some other addicitons
According to whom? We've only seen obesity rates go up over time.
>people regain weight because they 1. don't learn good habits 2. are retarded and forget how shit it was to be fat and hard it was to lose it
Good habits and lifestyle changes are such a meme. Meal prep and only eating keto/vegan go right out the window the second you get ill/stressed/sleepy/tired from life.
>yeah like when you go to sleep, when you wake up and what you do before bed
Dude stop being a fucking neet.
>I'm sheltered because I deal with stress without ruining my health through addictions? strange "logic"
You are here fatso.
>lmao no, if that causes you to overate
You overate hence you are here.

>>76246071
do you still train hard while fasting, i dont wanna end up skinnyfat by losing all the muscle ive built

>>76246071
you are literally binging and purging

>>76246071
>Try fasting, after a 72hour fast all my cravings and appetite was gone. It was like a voice that had always been there was suddenly silenced and I was finally free of it.
I did that multiple times, sometimes for a week. My appetite really was gone for a whole two days afterwards, then it came right back with revenge. Fasting is not a good long term weightloss method but it can get things started.

>>76246079
You WILL lose muscle while water fasting.

>>76246086
thats the issue i see with fasting, losing muscle

>>76246063
>keeping it to a minimum is hard at first but afterwards if it's an actual minimum then yes
Its very very difficult, especially if you get tilted by the water weight gain the next day and beat yourself up for going over your calorie "limit". I kinda got around this by having the days I go over during a diet be only on social occassions, then not weighing myself for 3 days. I also immediately go back to eating as normal.

>ironically enough prohibitng yourself from eating "bad" foods can be just as bad for you mentally i.e. orthorexia
100% and it can lead to binge purge cycles. I think what made this diet the easiest I've done is to have a solid base of healthy foods that I eat every day. They get me to my protein goal and leave me about 300-400 discretionary calories to eat whatever I want. Sometimes its fries, sometimes a sushi roll covered in pink mayo sauce, sometimes a bag of skittles. And hey sometimes I want 2 bags of skittles instead, I can still hit my calorie goal, but I eat a bit less of the healthy food, come just under my protein goal (by maybe 10g) and feel a little hungrier at night. Or maybe I go over by just 100-150, who cares? I'm still in a deficit (albeit a little smaller) and will hit my goal tomorrow.

>>76246079
Yes, everything else stays the same, I just don't eat for 3-days.

>>76246081
No, I only do a fast as a corrective measure, not a regular thing. If I accidentally fuck up and eat too much sugar or carbs the hunger returns and I do a 72hour fast to rid myself of the cravings. I've only had to fast 4 times now, the benefit lasts for as long as I don't fuck it up.

>>76246083
If I don't eat a bunch of carbs/sugar the hunger doesn't come back. I'm currently 5-months out from my most recent fast and I have no cravings. I try to keep carb intake under 80~90g a day. I know if I go over that that's when he hunger returns. Sugar is similar if I get like >20g of sugar in a day I'll be hungry again. So long as I don't go over those limits I'm fine and don't feel hungry at all. Fats and Proteins don't seem to affect my hunger levels at all its the carbs and sugars that do it for me.

>>76246078
>According to whom?
according to me
food addiction is rare, being a fatty that wants to pig out often is not food addiction
>We've only seen obesity rates go up over time.
and that is not because of "food addiction"
>Good habits and lifestyle changes are such a meme.
you may think this if you've never stuck to them
and good habits is literally the only way to get out of fatness, if you don't eat portion control and eating health food then you're just gonna go back to where you were
>Meal prep and only eating keto/vegan go right out the window the second you get ill/stressed/sleepy/tired from life.
not really unless you're weak in which case you were gonna break anyway
>Dude stop being a fucking neet.
A consistent waking and sleeping time are not neet things, in fact they were the only things that allowed me to work 10hour days as a carpenter
>You are here fatso.
to help people and interact with them
>You overate hence you are here.
nope

>>76246093
>I kinda got around this by having the days I go over during a diet be only on social occassions, then not weighing myself for 3 days. I also immediately go back to eating as normal.
good strategy, weight changes only matter on a weekly basis when you reach your goal weight, that is when you need to react
>Or maybe I go over by just 100-150, who cares? I'm still in a deficit (albeit a little smaller) and will hit my goal tomorrow.
sometimes it's not worth spending your willpower on one small urge
like last week I saw a bottle mtndew on sale and I felt like picking it up and I did and I drank it and I went on with the rest of my life and I won't touch one until next year or the end of this one

>>76246103
>>No, I only do a fast as a corrective measure,
That is the definition of binging and purging

>>76246108
>like last week I saw a bottle mtndew on sale and I felt like picking it up and I did and I drank it and I went on with the rest of my life and I won't touch one until next year or the end of this one
having a treat isn't gonna ruin your progress. having a melty will

>>76246115
>having a treat isn't gonna ruin your progress
It's reinforcing a bad habit. What if I want a treat again tomorrow? And the day after?

>>76246109
I've yet to 'binge' doing this. Fucking up in this context doesn't mean eating a plate of candies and sweets in a day it means going over my limits and suddenly I feel hungry again for the first time in months. Not the same thing, if I'm careful about my limits on carbs and sugars I never experience any hunger or cravings, its very freeing and makes sticking to the diet a breeze.

>>76246108
>according to me
Neets are not a source of authority.
>food addiction is rare, being a fatty that wants to pig out often is not food addiction
40% of US adults are obese, that is an addiction.
>and that is not because of "food addiction"
Let me guess then, it is because those people aren't perfect ubermenschen with infinite willpower such as yourself. You just happen to be fat now but because of your inhuman willpower you will surely be 8% bf by the end of the year and maintain that forever, right?
>you may think this if you've never stuck to them
Over 90% of people don't manage to stay on them. And if something doesn't work in clinical settings nor in the real world, it is not a solution.
>and good habits is literally the only way to get out of fatness
Not at all, GLP1 work much better, especially the new gen ones that may even help people keep their muscle mass while losing fat.
>if you don't eat portion control and eating health food then you're just gonna go back to where you were
You will end up regaining anyway without medication. This is what decades of studies and real world experience shows. Natural weightloss is not long term maintainable for the overwhelming majority of people.
>not really unless you're weak in which case you were gonna break anyway
YOU are weak, fatso. That is why you are here. You don't have any moral superiority to the rest of us fatsos.
>A consistent waking and sleeping time are not neet things, in fact they were the only things that allowed me to work 10hour days as a carpenter
Oh hey there Jêsus.
>to help people and interact with them
Post pics, fatso.

>>76246115
>having a treat isn't gonna ruin your progress
oh I know
>having a melty will
didn't have a melty so dunno what you're on about
>>76246120
well no it's not reinforcing a habit since it's not a habit if it happens once or twice or thrice a year
>What if I want a treat again tomorrow? And the day after?
you won't because you're on a diet and being on a diet means avoiding such things

so hungry...

>>76246120
>It's reinforcing a bad habit. What if I want a treat again tomorrow? And the day after?
Do you actually want one? It'll make diet progress slower or cause you to have to eat less that day to meet your deficit. If that's true, go ahead have it. If not, you exercise some self control and have the treat some other time. That's reinforcing good habits and exercising willpower in a way that makes you feel in control, instead of eroding your endurance.

>>76246123
Idk man, fasting seems fucked up. Especially for several days and I come from a culture that exercises fasting.

>>76246128
>didn't have a melty so dunno what you're on about
Didn't say you did. Just saying thats what will fuck someone over.

>>76246130
WeGovy/Zepbound are saying hello.

>>76246132
>That's reinforcing good habits and exercising willpower in a way that makes you feel in control, instead of eroding your endurance.
Good habits also means not shitposting on 4chin.

>>76246135
Where's the shitposting? This is honest diet advice.

>>76246137
Get off 4chan

>>76246145
why

>>76246126
>Neets are not a source of authority.
>appeal to neetdom
>unproven too

>40% of US adults are obese, that is an addiction.
no, not an addiction
>Let me guess then, it is because those people aren't perfect ubermenschen with infinite willpower such as yourself.
you guessed wrong
normies with no self control, no willpower, no knowledge who don't exercise and have easy access to highly calorically dense foods with no limits on how much they can eat will get fat
if you give an animal unlimited access to food it will also get fat
>You just happen to be fat now but because of your inhuman willpower you will surely be 8% bf by the end of the year and maintain that forever, right?
who said I'm fat?
also I would never maintain 8%bf because it;s unhealthy due to hormonal changes
I would try to never go lower than 12% and hang around between 12 and 15% maybe 18% if I for some reason fell behind like that
>Over 90% of people don't manage to stay on them. And if something doesn't work in clinical settings nor in the real world, it is not a solution.
look up an iq bell curve and realise everyone below the median is retarded and unsaveable unless forced to do things through force
if something doesn't work for general population it does not mean that that thing is automatically bad
>Not at all, GLP1 work much better
they stop working eventually or get very weak, don't recall exactly but it leaves you in a period where you have to rely on your habits
> especially the new gen ones that may even help people keep their muscle mass while losing fat.
doubt it, training and protein intake is what lets you keep muscle

お前たち絶対にバカバカしいんだよ

>>76246126
>You will end up regaining anyway without medication. This is what decades of studies and real world experience shows. Natural weightloss is not long term maintainable for the overwhelming majority of people.
because they are retarded and no one teaches them how to eat properly nor do they try to figure out on their own
they regain because they don't learn good habits or anything and go back to their old ways, not a fault of anything but the people doing the weight loss
>YOU are weak, fatso. That is why you are here. You don't have any moral superiority to the rest of us fatsos.
I'm strong and am superior, you will not bring me down to your pathetic level, crab
>Oh hey there Jêsus.
I'm whiter than you could ever be

>>76246132
>Idk man, fasting seems fucked up. Especially for several days and I come from a culture that exercises fasting.
I don't recommend fasting regularly, what I practice and recommend is fasting to break the cravings. Its an extreme measure to be sure, but it works, at least for me it does, and a 3-day fast isn't going to kill you or fuck you up too badly (unless you have other health conditions). I used to struggle with dieting, but after a fast, provided I don't fuck it up, I find it effortless because I don't have that voice in my head telling me to eat all the time and this just lasts for as long as I don't fuck it up, again its been months since the last time I've had to fast.

My most recent fuck-up was eating an excess watermelon slice, I knew i was close to my limit but I thought I had enough room to spare, but sure enough a few hours after that slice I was craving again for the first time in months. Did a 3-day fast after that and the cravings were once again gone and they've been gone ever since and so long as I don't fuck up again they'll continue to be gone.

>>76246132
>Didn't say you did. Just saying thats what will fuck someone over.
I see, yes you are correct
>>76246135
>>76246145
stop trying to act holier than thou to people posting on a palestinian beatboxing forum while posting here yourself

>>76246164
キスしてほしい?

>>76246163
>no, not an addiction
yes, it is an addiction.
>normies with no self control, no willpower, no knowledge who don't exercise and have easy access to highly calorically dense foods with no limits on how much they can eat will get fat
3/4 of Americans are overweight, 40% are obese. But clearly the obese retard neet on 4chan is smarter and more knowledgeable than them all and also has more willpower and self control. Ridiculous.
>who said I'm fat?
You are in the /fat/ subreddit.
>look up an iq bell curve and realise everyone below the median is retarded and unsaveable unless forced to do things through force
You are on the left side of the chart.
>if something doesn't work for general population it does not mean that that thing is automatically bad
It is useless for the vast majority of people. Or do you believe that your fellow ubermensch just happen to be here on /fat/ and just didn't know you need to use self control in order to lose weight? Are you literally retarded?
>they stop working eventually or get very weak
Wrong, we have 4 year studies already showing maintenance of substantial weightloss.
>don't recall exactly but it leaves you in a period where you have to rely on your habits
Habits are a meme. GLP1 work indefinitely and people like you can go fuck themselves.
>doubt it, training and protein intake is what lets you keep muscle
Protein intake sure, but myostatin inhibitors don't require exercise in order to gain and maintain muscle. You are clearly uneducated in that regard and all other ones.

>>76246171
>because they are retarded and no one teaches them how to eat properly nor do they try to figure out on their own
EVERYONE knows CICO. Everyone knows that overeating calorie-dense food causes them to gain weight. But every fatso also knows about food noise which overpowers conscious decision making.
>they regain because they don't learn good habits or anything and go back to their old ways
Maintaining le good habits requires constant willpower which is impossible.
>Im strong and am superior, you will not bring me down to your pathetic level, crab
Post body now, fatso.
>I'm whiter than you could ever be
Okay Mr ""white"" Hispanic.

how do people even have the energy to argue about cico? that doesn't even matter if the person doesn't exercise

>>76246185
そんなことじゃ嫌らしいね

>>76246207
CICO is all that matters for weightloss. Exercise, protein intake and micros/macros matter for lean mass maintenance.

can you get heart palps from too big a deficit? my eletrolytes seem to be fine.

>>76245910 (OP)
Is this accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKruPjwGT8

>>76246212
Might want to get that checked out.

>>76246214
I like cronometer. it's good. classic, tested, tried and true. dunno bout the rest though.

did the math yesterday and realized that for the past, well, who-knows-how-long my daily intake of protein was FAR below any recommended amount due to my low intake (that during times where I didn't do 1000kcal a day was only amended by fatty, sugary stuff but nothing protein rich either, apart from the occasional can of oil sardines).
so since I want to do better for myself, (and what's the point of working out even a little bit when I deny my body the protein it needs to keep itself running) today I went and bought protein powder for the first time in my life, as well as some more protein rich foods, psyllum husk (and some pickled cucumbers even though I'm not big on vegetables. at least they remind me of pickled herring)
Two questions:
>the packaging says to mix it with milk but I don't want those extra calories, is there any downside to using water instead? (aside from less good taste, but I tried and it's still decent enough)
>I don't exercise throughout the day what with having a desk job, only walking around the factory floor occasionally. Only when coming home do I exercise (for now, not much, 20-30min at most + walking up the mountain behind my house if I feel like it and haven't walked through the city that day yet) is it better I prepare the protein drink in the morning and have a sip at breakfast and lunch or is it better If I take the whole thing after (or before?) my evening workout, with dinner? spreading it out over the day would keep hunger down but I don't know how the body metabolizes the stuff/if it still has an effect come evening.

>>76246192
>yes, it is an addiction.
as I explained it is not an addiction
>3/4 of Americans are overweight, 40% are obese.
precisly because of what I wrote, 75% of the population don't suddenly get a food addiction and get overweight
>But clearly the obese retard neet on 4chan is smarter and more knowledgeable than them all and also has more willpower and self control.
not obese not retarded not a neet and yes I do
>You are in the /fat/ subreddit.
>subreddit
oh because you can only be in a thread if you fit a retard's criteria, right
>You are on the left side of the chart.
mighty projection
>You are on the left side of the chart.
are you? because the sentence you threw up there is so ridiculous I don't even know how you could come up with it
>It is useless for the vast majority of people.
4chan is not a vast majority of people
>Habits are a meme.
they are king because they become a part of you and stay with you forever
>GLP1 work indefinitely and people like you can go fuck themselves.
unlike shitty jew meds you retarded pharma shill
>Protein intake sure, but myostatin inhibitors don't require exercise in order to gain and maintain muscle.
if you don't use it you lose it
if you don't provide the muscles with a stimulus they atrophy, even with an appropriate protein intake
>You are clearly uneducated in that regard and all other ones.
mighty projection again
>>76246199
>EVERYONE knows CICO.
no they don't, normies think 20 minutes on the treadmill will make them lose weight and that if they touch a weight they will get "too bulky"
if they knew cico they wouldn't get where they are in the first place or at least would be less likely to get there
>But every fatso also knows about food noise which overpowers conscious decision making.
what? food doesn't make noise, if you're a fatass with no selfcontrol your decision making comes down to "im hungry im gonna eat, oh im hungry again after an hour? better eat again or ill starve"

>try to do assisted dips, because I hear they are a good work out.
>tfw to weak to do even 1 set with max weight assistance.
I swear I will conquer this piece of shit exercise.

>>76246214
>>76246218
I'm a cronometer shill also, but I use the modded .APK with all the premium features unlocked.

>>76246199
>Maintaining le good habits requires constant willpower which is impossible.
wrong, if you learn it it becomse second nature
pissing in the toilet without splashin the rest of the bathroom is a good habit and it doesn't require willpower
neither does brushing teeth
neither does eating healthy
(well techncially they do require a bit of willpower but it's a tiny amount especially since discipline starts kicking in after a while)
>Post body now, fatso.
no, lmao
>Okay Mr ""white"" Hispanic.
and a third projection to round it
post hand (you won't cuz you're brown)

>>76246224
>as I explained it is not an addiction
You didn't explain shit, you made statements based on nothing.
>precisly because of what I wrote, 75% of the population don't suddenly get a food addiction and get overweight
They get it from addicting food and lack of physical movement thanks to modern lifestyle.
>not obese not retarded not a neet and yes I do
Lmao okay fatso
>oh because you can only be in a thread if you fit a retard's criteria, right
Listen to me Jêsus, you can come into /fat/ but respect the subreddit's culture and don't be a condescending asshole.
>mighty projection
People like you who act like they are above everyone else usually happen to be the dumbest mofos amongst them all.
>4chan is not a vast majority of people
People here happen to be more socially awkward than the average but certainly not smarter.
>they are king because they become a part of you and stay with you forever
No, habits do not stay with you forever. If something is annoying to do like meal prep, you won't do it forever.
>unlike shitty jew meds you retarded pharma shill
The LIZARDJEW meds work in clinical trials and in the real world unlike your shitty non-advice.
>if you don't use it you lose it
Do you even know what myostatin inhibitors do you fucking useless piece of waste?
>no they don't, normies think 20 minutes on the treadmill will make them lose weight and that if they touch a weight they will get "too bulky"
Normies know because that information is widely available on the internet and chatgpt.
>if they knew cico they wouldn't get where they are in the first place or at least would be less likely to get there
Or they know about it but food still tastes great, work and life and stressful and sleep is lacking. Again, humans are animals, not machines.
>what? food doesn't make noise
I am talking about noise in the brain that is associated with desiring food. Stop pretending to be even more mentally challenged than you already are.

>>76246056
"Troll" is the wrong word. They are here to sabotage you. The West has many enemies and they are right here posting with us.

>>76246223
>the packaging says to mix it with milk but I don't want those extra calories, is there any downside to using water instead? (aside from less good taste, but I tried and it's still decent enough)
bad taste and poor mixibility. almond milk is a good middle point.

> spreading it out over the day would keep hunger down but I don't know how the body metabolizes the stuff/if it still has an effect come evening.
Do it however you want and makes you feel most satisfied

>>76246235
>pissing in the toilet without splashin the rest of the bathroom is a good habit and it doesn't require willpower
i still struggle with this one

>>76246216
I did, blood tests and ecg were fine. guess it could just be stress/anxiety.

>>76246235
>wrong, if you learn it it becomse second nature
Wrong, because over 90% of people who do that do not succeed in maintaining weight loss long term.
>pissing in the toilet without splashin the rest of the bathroom is a good habit and it doesn't require willpower
And yet public toilets are drained in urine.
>neither does brushing teeth
Which many people don't even consistedly do.
>neither does eating healthy
You can eat healthy and then stress, lack of sleep and food availability overrides conscious decision making and you eat fast food in addition to that.
>no, lmao
As I thought, fatso.

I am so glad we have GLP1 now so retards like you can get fucked. Prices need to come down ASAP, get everybody who wants them a syringe and everyone gets thin and happy except crabs in a bucket like you.

>>76246246
The Chinese, Russians, Africans, Arabs, Indians and Central/South Americans aren't the only enemies, there are also plenty of enemies within the West. They all need to be annihilated.

The Pill Merchant has returned. It's all very easy. Just take experimental weight loss drugs to lose fat and then take steroids to get big. What could go wrong?

>>76246263
Yes, so experimental we only have 50 years of research and 20 years of clinical use in humans of them. Who knows what kinds of long term side effects humans could get when they reach the age of 300 on them? Fucking Big Pharma Joos!

>>76246263
i'm losing fat very easily without pills and my goals don't require steroids. because i am not a wimp or roid tranny when it comes to getting in shape. i'll also be 5x healthier and stronger than any piller

>GLP1 shills in the fat thread
>no way to banish them
it's like watching a speck of shit dry on the toilet, that you have been aware of for a while, but that you are prohibited from cleaning up for some reason. pretty effective at sowing demoralization if you ask me.

>>76246272
You will regain it all back and then be even unhealthier. Natural solutions are a meme because nature hates you.

>>76246256
>because over 90% of people who do that do not succeed in maintaining weight loss long term.
because they don't learn good habits
they follow a diet plan for the duration of the diet and then go back to how they were eating previously
>And yet public toilets are drained in urine.
because they're public and most people don't respect what isn't theris, hell a lot of them don't even respect themselves
>Which many people don't even consistedly do.
because they don't learn
as a kid they're "forced" to do it
as a young adult they're "too busy"
as adulsts they don't care because they're "old"
>You can eat healthy and then stress, lack of sleep and food availability overrides conscious decision making
stress doesn't make you gain 20kgs in a week
neither does lack of sleep
neither does food availability (adults buy their own food you know)
what "overrides conscious decision making" is being stupid and them sometimes not realising that one slip up isn't the end of the world
>and you eat fast food in addition to that.
no you don't? why the fuck would you eat fast food?
it has literally zero appeal. Z E R O
>As I thought, fatso.
neither will you brownoid fatty

>I am so glad we have shitty drugs now so smart and responsible people like you can get forgotten about and your advice and knowledge too and society may decilne further

>and everyone gets thin and happy except crabs in a bucket like you.
YOU are the crab nigger, making up shitty retarded reason for bad behaviour and excusing retardation and bad choices, you are the definition of a crab in a bucket while I'm giving people advice on how to make their lives better through becoming better people not trough taking le heckin druggerinos

>>76246278
KILL YOURSELF YOU RETARDED NIGGER NOW

>>76246276
How dare fat people on fatloss meds talk about their good experiences on them on the /fat/ thread?!

>down 97 lbs
>weight loss slowing down bigly
>still 30 lbs to go
>95%(100%) I'll gain it all back and have to do this again within 5 years
can't wait

>>76246283
looking good, sweetie. ready to get pounded I'll bet. you deserve it because of all the progress you've made.

>>76246279
>because they don't learn good habits
They do because good habits don't take more than 5 minutes to learn. Following them long term is nearly impossible though.
>they follow a diet plan for the duration of the diet and then go back to how they were eating previously
So the ""good"" habit failed long term.
>because they're public and most people don't respect what isn't theris, hell a lot of them don't even respect themselves
But you claimed otherwise beforehand.
>because they don't learn
They do, they just don't/can't follow it long term.
>stress doesn't make you gain 20kgs in a week
Chronic stress causes chronic weight gain.
>neither does lack of sleep
Chronic lack of sleep causes chronic weight gain.
>neither does food availability (adults buy their own food you know)
Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare than fast food.
>what "overrides conscious decision making" is being stupid and them sometimes not realising that one slip up isn't the end of the world
You are being stupid right now because you are in this thread instead of doing something productive with your time. Where are your good habits now, stupid?
>no you don't? why the fuck would you eat fast food?
As I pointed out above, it is quickly prepared and provides energy fast.
>it has literally zero appeal. Z E R O
It is specifically engineered to provide maximum appeal to human beings.
>YOU are the crab nigger
Nah, I want fat people to get thin while you are here being a condescending asshole to everyone. But your time is up, faggot.
>while I'm giving people advice on how to make their lives better through becoming better people not trough taking le heckin druggerinos
If the virtuous ways of the superhuman is not working out for the overwhelming majority of human beings it is objectively bad advice and I think you know that.

KYS you dumb faggot loser

>>76246283
Get on GLP1 now anon ;)

>>76246298
>Chronic stress causes chronic weight gain.
>Chronic lack of sleep causes chronic weight gain
Ah shit that explains so much. That, and anxiety eating.

>>76246209
黙れ、オタク野郎。お前の口に舌を突っ込んでやるからな

>>76246298
>Following them long term is nearly impossible though.
KYS you dumb faggot loser
>So the ""good"" habit failed long term.
no it wasn't a habit it was just a thing they forced themselves to do
>But you claimed otherwise beforehand.
I did not
>They do, they just don't/can't follow it long term.
if they did they'd follow them
>Chronic stress causes chronic weight gain.
don't be chronically stressed
get out of it instead of eating yourself into a deeper hole
>Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare than fast food.
LMAO
convenience is the only thing but when you take into account everything else then fast food is retarded
> you are in this thread instead of doing something productive with your time.
I am productively entertaining myself
>Where are your good habits now, stupid?
some done already some done soon
>It is specifically engineered to provide maximum appeal to human beings.
and it fails at that
maybe it's appealing to cattle
>I want fat people to get thin while you are here being a condescending asshole to everyone
you are a crab in a bucket, an "anti fatphobia activist" type of retard
>If the virtuous ways of the superhuman is not working out for the overwhelming majority of human beings it is objectively bad advice and I think you know that.
good advice is good advice if you can't follow it then the blame is on you

KYS you dumb niggerfaggot loser

>>76246298
>Healthy food is more expensive and harder to prepare than fast food.
Eat my chili recipe and swap out the turkey for chicken. Cheap as absolute shit, especially compared to mcdonalds.

>>76246331
怒った??? ごめんね ^_^

why are there weebs arguing in this thread and why do i understand what they're saying

>>76246359
いいえ、私はあなたを愛していて、情熱的な愛をあなたと交わりたいのです。

>>76246331
引くわ

>>76246364
they're faggots too

>_>;; 気持ち悪い・・・

>>76246386
私のためにここまで来てくれたんですか?

Went to try and get some Mounjaro prescribed today. These fuckers want a sample of my blood first. As if the fucking tax I pay every month doesn't cover it.

>>76246440
the only thing they get from your veins is bacon grease pig boy

>>76246457
Well if you have the diabetus it's completely free, so fingers crossed.

>on crazy deficit
>weight loss stall
>over eat one night
>lost weight
>do it again
>lose more weight

Welp, I guess I am on a higher calorie allowance. I am not arguing with results.

Every day you miss your goal is one less day you have to spend after reaching the end.

there is no end. you have to eat healthy for the rest of your life.

>>76246543
>there is no end. you have to eat healthy for the rest of your life.
stop. I can't cope with 0 goyslop in my life

>>76246526
>>76246543
The moment I hit my goal weight I'm going to order a buffalo chicken poutine with an extra large milkshake and post it here.

>>76246557
If you're willing to lift weights and diet for 2 months out of the year, you can do bulk and cut cycles. Bulk for 10-12 months with an occasional 2 week mini-cut, then do a full on 2 month cut. Each time you do this, you'll have more muscle and thus a higher TDEE. You'll also be able to have a higher poundage of body fat at the same body fat %. It's what i've been doing.

>>76246041
>A healthy weight for me with my height and frame is 200 - 220lbs.
are you 6'3 or 6'4"?

>>76246582
>able to have a higher poundage of body fat at the same body fat %
more fat per fat

>>76246283
I don't want to startle you, but it looks as if there is a skeleton inside you.

>>76246584
not him but I am and I was 275lbs at my heaviest
>>76246041
never head constant hunger though

>>76246130
Italian Beef sandwiches with some hot Giardiniera are pretty tasty.

>>76246590
>I was 275lbs at my heaviest
better than me. I'm 6'4" and at my heaviest I was probably 385 maybe even close to 400. I say probably because my scale only went up to 350 and it took a few months of weight loss before I started to discern my weight on my scale. Currently 250 though now and I am hoping to be able to hit 215 for end weight.

>>76246603
nice, I'm at 260 right now in two and a half months of weightloss
WAGMI

>>76246526
>not having enough daily goals to win every day
NGMI

I measure activity, weight, career, planned activity count, body comp, every fucking thing off my checklist

I met a girl and now that life doesnt seem so bad I've been struggling to stay motivated to keep my diet going. How do I avoid backsliding into my old habits when I'm happy? My unhappiness used to fuel my weightloss and lifting.

BRISKET