I just did behind the neck press for the first time yesterday, it was great! most machines hurt my shoulders but this felt fantastic on my shoulders and its sooo stable compared to strict press, I cant wait to do it again next upper day.

Share btn tips, numbers, experiences, opinions, whatever, just talk about this great old school lift :)

This shit is literally my favorite shoulder workout. You can hammer your side delta so deep, it's crazy.

>>76246464
hell yeah, i noticed the contraction is quite different from that of the ohp, i guess that must have been my side delts firing off.

>>76246472
That stretch in the delts at the bottom is absolutely killer. So fucking good

There's a reason you don't see many people doing them. Done them too in the past and they seemed amazing, but anatomically we're not supposed to put our shoulders in that position.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gLYLFkjiw

>>76246516
This. I respect the crusade for gains, but if you do this for a few years the odds of needing shoulder surgery are high.

>>76246516
I'm 40 years old and they feel fucking great and I'm using 135lbs, so I'll just keep doing them till I need surgery I guess, unless I'm just a genetic freak who was born with unlimited mobility or some shit.

>>76246516
>Unironically posting AthleanX in 2025

>>76246439 (OP)
15 to 20 reps feel fucking amazing. I like to end my shoulder day with these so it's pretty light but ends up feeling brutal.

btn press really will give you a side delt pump. even if you are only doing some low rep 5x5 shit. obviously it's just a temporary pump , but after doing btn press you will have 3d roider delts from the pump. you need the mobility to do it though. I had shit mobility and started out doing standing strict btn press with only the bar and btn pushpress with 75lbs. even with those weights it felt like I was on the verge of wrecking myself but I was careful and never got hurt and kept doing it. within a few months I could btn pushpress 2pl8 and btn strict press 1pl8 (for a 2 or 3 rep max.) And now I can do standing strict btn press with 1pl8 for easy high reps. I haven't done any push press for a while so idk what I could do. definitely more than 2pl8.

>>76246800
and just in case you are retarded and can't read, I'm not saying saying you can get roider delts as a natty by doing btn press. i'm just saying it really does does train side delts alot and will give you a crazy pump in your whole delt. and i don't have any side delt "mind"muscle connection" while doing it. I just try to balance it over mid-foot, get my elbows right under the bar ( or even very slightly behind) and press it straight overhead. afterwards my shoulders are unbelievably pumped.

>>76246800
Nice man your pretty strong, I started out nice and light because I'm new to the movment. rn my strict press max is only at lmao1pl8 so I think once I get used to the movment I should be able to rep 50kg btn

>>76246549
Yeah I wouldn't worry to much so long as it doesn't hurt, there's an old guy at my gym probably 60~ who does them weekly and he seems fine

>>76246516
thanks for the laugh man

>>76246439 (OP)
Olympic weightlifters do lots of behind the neck pressing so i do them too, behind the neck latpulldowns too. They are the only weightlifting athletes that i will emulate, by being the only real athletes in weightlifting circles unlike bodybuilders or even pigs that powerlift. Also they do lots of isometric training which i have started doing, science based faggots like mike palestine who says isometrics are no good can fuck off.

>>76246439 (OP)
They are great, to avoid injury just make sure you are warmed up and there's no need to go all the way down.
If it feels comfortable for you, go ahead, but if something feels off, just find your form.
Its fine to stop at the middle of your head, if you really want to target the delts, use wide grip.

>>76250078
Ill even do opposite of head through que to nake it almost more of an incline bench but more with your hands outwards like a shove up and out front yet close to your spinal axis, then lean forward to hit the mid delts more(hinging at hips). It helps to keep your shoulders from being too outwardly rotsted and pushing wothout your joints being in a bad position for heavier loads.

>>76246516
>>76246523
>Theoretically unsafe
Are there any real world examples of bodybuilders or even non pro weight lifters attributing their shoulder injuries to btn press or is this just one of those trust me bro tales as old as time? Remember when everyone insisted dumbbell flies were a an injury prone exercise?

>>76250365
If you don't have the mobility and try to do it with actually challenging weights, you will get impingement for sure. I could see getting actually hurt if you do them seated. If you fail a standing btn press, you let the bar drop onto your traps and absorb the impact with your legs. You can't do that seated. You could get fucked up going to failure on seated ones.

I tore my rotor cuff doing these. Everything felt fucking fantastic, and then after a session, I found that I basically couldn't apply any downward or inward pressure from my left shoulder without major pain, and I got fucked out of doing anything I liked for a few years while it recovered.

>>76251068
Skill issue, 100%

>>76251057
I do seated smith machine with around 140lbs for reps. Been all good so far. The claim that doing this shit with too much weight applies to every lift I can think of. If you go to heavy on bench, you risk elbow, wrist, shoulder, injury, or pectoral tears. I think the best thing to advise is not to do this shit if you're an ego lifting nub.

>>76251174
probably, it's just the fact that I completely fucked myself up without noticing it or ego lifting that is making me want to warn others so they do not suffer the same fate

>>76246439 (OP)
take 2 light dumbbellls, stand in perfect posture with these 2 light dumbbels raised to your head height as if u're about to btn press em up (90 degs in elbow)
>and?
raise your shoulders up
>what for?
so that u know where is up or down for scapula, u bring scapula all the way down, down and out - u don't want any pinching between scapulae
>and?
and u have just distilled deltoid from ohp/behind the neck press in isometric impinge-less hold

>but i wanna lift weight
u are holding weight up in isometric hold with your delts delivering continuous tension to side deltoids, lifting it up will end this continuous tension, cause u "lifted tha weight" and u no longer weigh down the muscle, u never lift the weight, lifting is retarded, u hold the weight for muscle gain cause it's the only way to deliver continuous tension to muscle belly which grows muscle unlike lifting the weight

look at this retard:
>>76246821
>I just try to balance it over mid-foot
there's your entire body between tha heavy stick and your "mid foot" and u have zero clue what's happening to it

scapulae must be dropped down and kept down as u hold 2 light dumbbells at your head height, when scapulae starts raising up it's the end of your "set"

when pressing scapula raises up with natural humeral-scapular rhythm and that's when shoulder gets fucked, no u don't want to load this motion, u just want to load starting position of it

see this bloated arnie?
>>76246439 (OP)
he is leaning backwards - this will bias front delt, his neck is all craned, no bueno
>>76251186
>I think the best thing to advise is not to do this shit if you're an ego lifting nub.
nah, stop "lifting" altogether, it's fucking retarded, yes all of it :D i proudly proclaim that i do not lift :D

>>76251475
be quiet dyel schizo

>>76246439 (OP)
After doing regular BtN presses, do the push press variation with heavier weight and slowly lower the bar down after finishing a rep. Crazy rear delt work.

>>76251890
Fuck I'm retarded. Meant side delts, obviously.

My homemade barbell can't take another cinderblock. It's time to up the notch. Can I replace ohp with bth?

>>76246523
>I respect the crusade for gains, but if you do this for a few years the odds of needing shoulder surgery are high.
Impingement is literally a myth and surgery outcomes are no better than without surgery, statistically.

For me, it's the Behind the Neck Push Press
>annihilates plateaus
>feels amazing
>terrifies normies in the gym
>people think you're going to squat only for you to throw the weight overhead