>did 25 just for the fuck of it
>got a nice burn and chest pump
Why does nobody do these?

>>76256440 (OP)
People do anon, we know about pushups, I did some yesterday after my workout.

>>76256440 (OP)
because they're easy

>>76256440 (OP)
Yeah nobody ever did push-ups ever except OP

>>76256446
On a chest day?

>>76256447
Then do more reps

>>76256454
>do more reps
It's dumb beyond a certain point of fitness, anyone who reach noob gains will benefit much more doing resistance training with actual weight. 10-12 good reps of bench press with decent load will beat 50 reps of pushups any day.

>>76256486
Record yourself doing 50 push ups right now since its so easy

>>76256491
I'm not saying it's "easy", I'm saying you'll build more muscle with fewer reps and higher load than doing dozens of push-ups.
Please, read posts carefully and actually try to understand things in good faith before exposing yourself as a retard.

>>76256496
And im saying youre unable to do 50 push ups so you still have something to gain from doing them

More load doesnt equal more muscle. If push ups let you train to failure you'll see the same gains as a bench press that let's you train to failure. In fact id even argue push-ups are better since failing a push up doesnt put your life at risk

Goku became the strongest by doing pushups.

>>76256440 (OP)
>why does nobody else do the most common exercise known to man?
It's a mystery.

used to do a shit ton of those and yeah it helped as a newfag but you stall pretty fast. I was doing 60 in a row every morning with ease but it was very hard to do more than that. I had been in the navy before so I was very used to doing plenty of push ups, but I wasn't making any progress and just looked normal
variations aren't very good either and loading push ups sucks. you have to switch to bench press and weighted dips soon enough

I can't do 60 push ups in a row anymore. you do lose the endurance when you stop training it. but I look a million times better

>>76256519
Ive literally never seen anyone do push-ups at the gym

>>76256536
Why would you go to a gym to do pushups

>>76256536
Yeah no shit nobody goes to the gym to do pushups when they can bench press there or just do pushups at home.

>>76256536
lucky you I've seen people do all sorts of meme bodyweight exercises

>>76256563
>>76256566
>his gym doesnt have a studio or mat area for bodyweight activities

>>76256454
Yes, following incline bench, weighted dips, weighted chin ups and rows.
>>76256491
I did one set of 50 exactly and I did them with my feet on a low chair. The other anon is correct about diminishing returns after you get stronger and more conditioned, although they are not completely useless.

>>76256513
hogswash

>>76256597
>I did one set of 50 exactly and I did them with my feet on a low chair.
What does the chair do?

>>76256513
Not sure if you're op, but if you are, you sure talk a big game for someone who just discovered pushups after doing 25 for a chest pump.

>>76256611
It makes them more challenging by taking more load off your feet and putting it over your hands. It also puts more focus on the upper head of the pecs and the shoulders.

>>76256623
Interesting. I'll give them a shot. How low of a chair are we talking? Could a bench be the right height?

>>76256618
25 was hard for me and thats why im sure that anon couldnt do 50. Also the pump felt more confined in my center chest so that already let's me know it works more than benching which I always feel in my front delts

>>76256633
If 25 is hard for you, you're either obese or your chest is weak as fuck and you'd make more gains doing literally any other pushing exercise with real weights

I went from 20 pushups to 35 after 4 months of lifting

>>76256440 (OP)
Not meme-y and autistic enough. Push ups are for normies.

>>76256633
Sure bench should be fine.

I did 50 with feet on a chair, which is where my form broke down. My point is that if 25 pushups are hard for you, and you're asking thinks like "why does no one do pushups" you may want to be open to the possibility that there are vast gulfs in your understanding. Going to failure on pushups, even at the 50 rep range isn't useless, but after a certain point it's going to be much more for conditioning than for packing on size or adding strength.
Ultra low weight, high rep stuff becomes cardio at a certain point. I'm not saying high rep pushups and running 10k are the same but hopefully you can see that this sort of this is a dimmer switch, not a light switch.

>>76256440 (OP)
get your game to the next level: do them on rings anon and rotate them at the top

>>76256656
Once again. Please post yourself doing 50 push-ups

>>76256672
Training to failure is still training to failure. Youre going to get size and strength regardless of what lift takes you to failure. Yeah it may take longer for push ups to get you there, but once you reach failure thats it. Your pushing muscles should be maxed out regardless if you were doing bench or not.

And obviously you wouldn't want to spend your entire chest day doing push ups. It could be used as a good finisher to burn whats left in the tank as once again. It has a safer failure mode

>>76256693
I hear what youre saying anon, but again, you speak of thing you don't fully grasp. First of all, the study everyone likes to quote in regards to all failure resulting in the same hypertrophy did not study above 30 reps. Second of all, anyone (including me) who has trained at one time mostly in the 1-5 rep range and at another time in the 10-15 rep range and at another time been a calisthenics bro, all of these taken to failure, can tell you you absolutely will get different gains in different rep ranges, the most noticable difference being in how quickly you can make strength gains working with very heavy weight at lower reps compared to high rep calisthenics.
I was 11b infantry, and have spent time incarcerated doing hundreds and hundreds of various sorts of pushups on my chest days, and while they kept me in good shape and helped me not lose what I had as quickly, once I got out and went back to benching even in the 10-15 rep range, I very quickly added size and strength the pushups were not getting me.
Believe me or don't, but that's what it is.

>>76256440 (OP)
Push ups are more of an endurance exercise, we're all about weightlifting here.

>>76256753
Do them weighted then

>>76256743
Sounds like you weren't doing push-ups to failure. Muscle is muscle. Doesn't matter if you're squatting heavy or leg pressing heavy. The muscles dont say
>he trained me to failure doing bench so im going to grow bigger
>oops, you trained to failure using push-ups guess I wont grow
Only difference is the time. Where as training only push-ups to failure would take more time than benching heavy, but at the end of the day. You can always bench to failure first. Then do push ups later, which would reduce the amount of reps needed to reach failure again.

Ive already convinced myself to end my chest days with push-ups. Threads done. You guys can bicker about why you wont want to do push-ups on your own
>truth is, most anons are too fat and their gut hits the ground before their chest does

>>76256754
What benefit would that give me over doing a regular barbell incline chest press then?

>>76256779
I was doing them to failure brother Anon, it's the only way I train. I see you have made up your mind and closed it. I pray you do well in your fitness journey, go with God.

>>76256693
post yourself benching 2pl8s for reps

>>76256832
Obviously cant or else 25 push ups wouldn't be hard right? Im also not claiming im too strong for push ups.

So please, feel free to post yourself doing 2pl8s for reps and/or 50 pushups. Since youre so strong

>>76256779
>Failure is failure
>Ignoring leverages, stretch, torque
NGMI

>>76256440 (OP)
because machines are better

>>76256840
post body

>>76256440 (OP)
Push ups are even better than dips but are hard to load, why has nobody ever made a weighted push up machine

>>76256896
Kek. Looks like a total death trap

>>76256896
>whole ass medieval torture machine

>>76256896
A better option would be to put on a chest belt that has a string thats attached to pulleys and a weight stack thats off to the side. As you pushs up the string pulls on the weight and if you fail you dont have an entire stack crushing your back

>>76256679
>and rotate them at the top
Why? What's the benefit?

>>76257224
straight arm gains, full ROM extra pec squeeze, pseudo planche pushups work

>>76256440 (OP)
>push ups
>imagine being this poor, can't even afford a gym membership
are you underage or a poorfag?

Because eventually you get to a point where there are no gains to be had anymore
>bro you can make them harder by elevating your feet and putting weights on your back
Yeah or i can just bench

>>76258310
Pushing decline push ups to failure makes me feel like god

They hurt my shoulders even tho it's probably a strength but I don't like focusing 110% on the technique and 0% on feeling the pump and fun of the movement. I can do dips with added weight after warmup and push in dumbbell pressing movements.

>>76256440 (OP)
>25
If you can do 25 reps, they aren't heavy enough to make you stronger.

>>76256896
They already have anon

>>76256440 (OP)
Because it doesn’t do anything other than give you big azz titties

>>76258342
I could do handstand push ups but I feel like a beech since i pretty much pass 50-80 reps and don’t feel anything and can do like 10 sets before i get shoulderpain Kek.

>>76256633
Anon, people at different points of their fitness lifetime will have different physical capabilities

Push-ups don't really cary over into bench for me, also why do push-ups when i need rest? I like doing chest openings on rest days though or light cardio.

>>76258382
That's probably because his technique is absolute ass

>>76256440 (OP)
I can only do 5 in a row

i like doing push ups

>>76258752
what is wrong with you

>>76258408

>>76256447
>>76256454
>>76256486
do decline pushups, guarantee you won't be able to do more than like 10-15

>>76256896
bro said

>>76256440 (OP)
I do, I just superset with them flyes so that I reach failure in a reasonable rep range

My home gym doesn't have a normal bench, so I just do weighted pushups on handles (basically like the dude in the pic), it's a pretty solid replacement for benching, it's completely safe, but it's easier to cheat once you're getting close to failure, so you have to control the movement. I don't understand the obsession about bench press desu.

>>76256440 (OP)
>Why does nobody do these?
I think you'll find that quite a few people do pushups...

>>76256440 (OP)
Weighted dips and push ups are better for chest than (((bench press)))

>>76259876
>>76259903
lol lmao

>>76256440 (OP)
I can bench press 200 lbs but a simple pushup makes me right elbow feel like its going to snap off

>>76256440 (OP)
Because bench press exist.

>>76259903
Lol, lmao even

>>76257286
>not having a home gym

>>76256513
Not that anon but I worked up to doing 100 push ups in a row morning and night. I didn't gain anything from that except the ability to do a lot of push-ups, after a certain point its diminished returns. I gained much more muscle when I stopped that shit and focused on my bench.

>>76256440 (OP)
Pushups are great, they´re super awesome, I regret I dont do them more. However, they are not going to help you put on muscle mass after you can do more than 30 or so, at that point you are just training endurance, abs and posture. Planks are just the lazy man´s pushups.

As an example. After years without training I started again. I started at home with pushups, went up to be able to do 50. 53 in a row on my first set was the highest. Started going to the gym. Did 13 reps on flat bench press with 20 kg plates. So 60 kg with the bar or 135 lbs. All the way down touching my chest and no spotter, no problem. On a Chest Press machine like my picture, I had a total of 80 kg on them, 2 20 kg plates on each side for a total of 8 reps to failure. When I started.
I switched over to mostly chest press machine due to an old shoulder injure. Remember, when I started, bench press 135 lbs for 13 reps. Chest press, 40 kg on each side, 8 reps to failure.
Now, about a year later or so. I can do 20 reps on the exactly same chest press machine with the exactly same plates and weight. I haven´t being doing pushups lately so I think if I were to do some, I would probably burn out at 45 or so. That should highlight how little pushups really help. And yes, nothing gives a better pump in the chest than pushups, you want a bigger chest today, do pushups, you want a bigger chest in a month, do heavy weights.
>>76256743
This anon is 100% right. But everyone should be good at pushups, they´re healthy for you. I regret not doing them more and I think I might skip some heavy weight days for pushups.

>>76256447
I bet your form is shit. I bet your rom is shit. I bet your tempo is shit. Anytime someone says this i know is full of shit and most likely a power shitter. Post body

>>76260734
geez buddy do some push ups or something to calm down

>>76260849
Don't ever (YOU) me again im waiting for the anon to post body. Im not gay

>>76256440 (OP)
Started getting bad anxiety
Therapist told me to put an ice pack on my face and breath
Didn't do shit
Started doing pushups instead when it happens
Works like a charm

>>76256440 (OP)
>nobody does pushups

That's quite the claim, OP

>>76256896
All this to avoid buying a weighted vest

>>76256896
>get in the retard squasher

>>76256440 (OP)
Because I can't even do one (1) full push-up. No, I'm not fat.

>>76264285
>I can't even do one (1) full push-up. No, I'm not fat.
>doesn't post body to prove it
yes you are