Construction bros, how do you get the willpower to go to gym after working 10 hours of manual labour during the day, it’s killing my gains.

>>76266518 (OP)
start taking roids, a lot of physical labour slavers are on roids

>>76266518 (OP)
Get the will power to get out. I was an electrician through my 20s and now in my 30s still feel it. My lower back is forever shot and my right shoulder is forever wonky. The only way to survive the trades is to pick up 2 coping mechanisms whether it's Zyns and Monsters or coke and hookers. Pick your poison. Either way, it's a shit industry.

>>76266954
this is what low IQ looks like

>>76266524
>live a shit life
>make it worse by sacrificing more of your health for your boss

Top advice.

>>76266518 (OP)
You don't. Treat your job as a workout and at least try to get a less shitty job before you deal with luxury bs like bodybuilding. You have bigger fish to fry than this.

>>76266964
>low iq to get out of slave labor to make more money elsewhere
Trade cuck cope

>>76266954
Electricians at least make a lot of money

>>76267017
Not worth it.

>>76267017
No we don't. Plumbers, HVAC, steel workers all make more than us

>>76266518 (OP)
I don't go to the gym. I do 15 minutes of calisthenics 6 times a week. Not optimal, but still enough to maintain a physique better than that of 90% of guys out there.

according to reddit, your 10+ hour construction worker days are easier than being a stay at home mom
so just work harder?

Just do arms at the gym. Then it shouldn’t be too hard.

Gym before work, it's the only way.

>>76267054
Fuck plumbing and hvac, but steel work i would be down fir after doing concrete and landscaping for a while. Im about to take a 1.5 year class to become an electrician.

>>76267170
>class
I love this shit so much because everything you learn won't mean dick when you get your first print and realize you need to ask 5 different people wtf the game plan was because some retard in the office couldn't be bothered to specify. When you learn the entire theory of electrician only for some boomer to tell you to fuck off because, "That's not the way we do things around here!" When you think there's some semblance of competency yet you're being thrown onto a massive commercial job that's 3 months in already and you now have to figure how to run your PVC through established concrete foundation.

I FUCKING LOVE THE TRADES AND AMERICA SO FUCKING MUCH.

>>76267224
I could have gotten an apprenticeship but i did the math and ill make my money back from classes plus some within a year then be malking much more than i would have.
I dont really have a choice. Im done being a laborer. And like i said fuck hvac and plumbing. I know electricians on a crew who are pretty cool and wouldnt mind working with them once im trained.

>did manual labour of all sorts when I was in my early 20s
>fuck this sucks I cant do this all my life
>get bachelors degree
>cushy office job for a GC while the tradies break their backs for less money
:^)

instead of hitting the gym after work I do an hour of zone 3 gooning

>>76266954
How the fuck you fuck your body in one of the easist trades? Did you go straight from college to tge trades with little construction experience?

>>76267373
>what is underground work?
>what is pulling feeder wire?
>what is pulling wire in general?
>what is hammer drilling?

>>76266518 (OP)
I used to do 10-15 mins of weights before my shifts. 2 excercises per muscle and only 2 sets, 1 high intensity mike mentzer style. I still keep the same routine now, cos it's so efficient and superset back with hamstrings and quads with rest of push muscles, then I chill for a day or two and repeat. I always had energy and made steady gains. Everyone I know that lifts for an hour after physically demanding work has to rely on pre work out, fried their adrenals, sleeps like shit and never makes any progress. Don't fall into that trap and do try and get out of the trades long term

>>76267396
Cant wait to be doing that easy shit

Got a BSEE but quit after 7 years because I hated the tedium of desk work so much and my back was ruined from sedentary lifestyle. Currently working security as a stopgap but was considering getting an electrical apprenticeship soon to get back to making above the "break even if nothing goes wrong" wage. How shit is it actually for lifting/fitness and are there really any better alternatives?

>>76266979
You sound like a complete retard and I doubt you get paid more than a tradie

My gym's full of construction workers lifting heavy at 6pm. Alot of them are clearly on gear though. You have motivation problems because you don't actually like lifting weights

>>76267353
/thread

>>76266954
are you sure that's just not age?

>>76267396
>pulling wire
>hard

>>76267017
>>76267054
In general run of the mill commercial construction, Electricians are the least paid of the trinity of skilled trades (Plumbers, Tinners, or Sparkies). Anecdotally, Plumbers and Tinners are Unioned up thus the higher wages. Wire pullers are dime a dozen and the work in general is easier than the other two. Being easy and less physically demanding means lower wages.

Don't blue collar wagies claim they're buff just from doing physical work and call gymrats incels?

im going into the trades, gmi

>>76269216
Are they white? Most I see are ugly brown manlet mexicans

>>76269331
yeah and with "fake muscles" lol

>>76266518 (OP)
Go to the gym before work

>>76267237
What's wrong with hvac? It's less physically strenuous than the other trades, especially if you spec into the service side of things

>>76269506
I live in cental louisiana. My hvac bro is always on roofs on in attics. I have been laboring around electricians lately and hvac cant be much easier physically. My boy does have massive firearms from tinkering.

>>76270098
*forearms

Get a license to operate machinery, your easiest bet is a forklift cert. You get paid more than the on-foot boys.
>>76270098
>>76270132
Geg, your body now has guns growing out of it.

>>76266954
Can't you just wear knee pads or something?

I just follow a minimalist routine that's only 2 compound lifts and maybe 1 accessory per session and I try to get it done before work. Because it's so short and low in volume there really isn't that much fatigue during the day at work. I wouldn't have the motivation or energy left to lift after work though.

Trade cucks ate so embarrassing.

>>76270511
Like what mcdonalds?

>>76267396
>be electrician
>be whiny, weak, and broken from the easiest of all of the trades

Checks out.

>>76270665
lmao the tradie wagies are having another dick measuring contest bragging over who has the most grueling job.
I'm so glad I dont have to work around people like that any more. Its just exhausting being around these false bravado tough guys who constantly have something to prove.
Just do your fucking job and shut already.

>>76270702
Just started neetdom agsin and it feels amazing to have all this energy.If youre neet you have no excuse to not be absolutely fucking jacked 10% bodyfat.

>>76270702
You know what I love the most about trades? All of their humor ends with the exact same punchline of: "This suck, I hate my fucking life." Every time.

>lol i get up at 4am tomorrow and it's 10pm on a sunday
>i drive 2 hours to and from work every day XD
>haha the old timers treat us like shit and teach anyone
>lmao i've been working 6 12's and now my forman is asking me to come in this sunday
>dude, i eat gas station food, am fat, and my body hurts like he'll
>rofl i work with ex-fellons who still do drugs and feel like they'll stab me at any moment

>>76270789
>and don't teach*

>>76270789
This is what constrction workers on 4chan say because they had no prior job experience doing hard work. Workers who come from the dirt into easy trades like electrician feel like they got it easy making the big bucks. Master electricians get paid.
8/10 construction workers in reality will tell you they love their job even though most if em are lying because yeah im too manly to not enjoy tradework. "Toxic" masculinity is certainly annoying but i experience it in all walks of life. Someone us always trying to dunk on someone else for some reason regardless of social circles but in different ways.

>>76270824
>constrction workers on 4chan say
Bruh wut. All of them on social media are like this. Work with and tradesmen and it's a nonstop bitchfest of how everything sucks. I'd say 4chan, as always, is more raw with how this is presented but it's definitely not just here.
>dirt people
Yeah but do well really consider Wayne, who has been in and out of jail 3x for meth a person?

>>76270789
im gonna be honest the guys i meet that have a record are the most chill to work with. the ones on drugs are obviously always the problem. i agree though its tiring to see everyone pretend like this work is good when the people sitting 50 feet away are making twice your salary and the most strenuous thing they have to do all day is check their google calendar.

>>76270855
Some white dudes and a lot of mexicans are on coke and meth but I would say alcohol is the most prevalent drug. As always.
>donde esta clear?
See, i know spanish

>>76270876
Tho in reality often times mexicans are less likely to do drugs if they're worried about deportation.

>>76266518 (OP)
if you actually work instead of just standing around it is great cardio
keep yourself safe with proper equipment, gloves, masks, etc.
eat healthy and you will actually become massive.
don't smoke and drink like your retard colleagues.
the sheer amount of volume will be enough to get decent hypertrophy.
follow a yoga routine to work on mobility and health after work.

Go before work and do a 4 set circuit to failure, bench+row+alternate squat/dl; 3 sets pyramid 12-8-4 reps then one set backoff for 20 reps.

>>76269215
>roids are actually good for you
/fit/s top minds

>>76267396
Fucking hammer drilling? Are you fucking serious? Jesus Christ electrons are such whiney bitches. It's just drilling a fucking hole in concrete

>>76267024
Lmfao what? It's fucking easy. I can't wait to absolutely mog and clear all the other electricians who think that shit is hard

>Actually falling for the trades meme
I was sort of at a cross roads recently and needed to pivot out of my sales job that was making me want to KMS. I spent like a week researching each trade that interested me but the one thing they all had in common was 30-40+ year olds basically saying their body is shot to shit. Like A LOT of them. While yes they were probably jackasses lifting improperly theres still so much risk that i'm not willing to deal with and even if I managed to avoid the big issues i'm sure i'd get nagging pain in my 40s basically no matter what. I want to enjoy being alive. Going into nursing instead after a 2 year program I'll be an RN and do travel nursing going across the country and making bank taking care of geriatrics with a 3 day work week. Bosh.

>>76266518 (OP)
I don't know. I don't work in construction. I would suggest to just focus on technique, lifting barely more weight than the bar. I don't think you need to lift heavy shit in the gym if you already lift heavy shit for a living.

>>76266518 (OP)
>>76267325
the only collar colour that matters (unless you're volunteering) is the one in your bank account!

>>76270385
Forklift drivers usually don't just drive a forklift. They do a mix of manual labouring and driving a forklift. Sometimes that manual labouring is pretty easy though. But it doesn't pay well compared to most other machinery operators, eg construction machinery, driving a big truck, etc. At least from the ad listings I've seen, driving something like an excavator pays a few more dollars an hour.

>>76270920
>the sheer amount of volume will be enough to get decent hypertrophy
marathon runner . jpg

>>76266518 (OP)
Being mad about how all of my white collar high school classmates are married homeowners with vacations, degrees, kayaks, hobbies and a life behind them of greek life parties and team sports, whereas I'm slaving away for to enrich my fat hick boss who makes bank to sit around and be a fat fuck

go to the gym before you go to work

>be me
>manage environmental permits for construction sites
>basically just tell OP to clean up while he trying to eat lunch
>make twice as much as the best paid operator on site
>leave after four hours and no one notices
>go to gym while OP continues to break his back
>go home to my beautiful wife who prepared the finest grass fed lamb and salmon meal for me before OP makes it to the gym
>in bed before OP gets home

>>76266954
lmao electrician is he pussy bitch trade
was your screwdriver too heavy?
>b-but i had to carry conduit cable
bitch i fit pipe try carrying 6m of 4"

i agree that getting out is the best move though
>>76267017
all trades can make good or bad money it depends entirely on where you're doing it and who for
it is an exercise in avoiding ruining your body though
>>76272424
the main issue in trades is carcinogens, fumes, and vibration because you can avoid if not outright eliminate the other hazards
while you can wear a respirator, and be called a faggot, you can't practically totally shield yourself or your skin
there really is very little you can do to mitigate vibrational harm

i dread to think what the viral load of ancient herpes boomer shit and piss is like

>after
Let your gains negatively affect your work, not the other way around