How did people convince new lifters that this was desirable? You spend all that time in the gym to get "strong" but since you're fat you still get no bitches.

Like someone said, lean is law and no one cares if you can bench 350 if you weigh 250 and have a gut.

Their fatty brains do all the convincing. Turns out, moving weights for an hour every now and again is infinitely easier than sticking to a caloric deficit for months

>>76272727


Yup. I spent too many years falling for this lie. Really all it is that dudes wanted to lift but didn't want to stick to a diet. Honestly they would have been better off just eating good and NOT spending all that time in the gym if they were going to do that

People believe what they need to believe. When I was a teenager my appetite and shitty family diet made it very hard to get lean so I just coped hovering around 18-20% bodyfat that I was really lower bodyfat than I was and just needed to build more muscle. I could do 1/2/3/4 for reps but didn't look like I lifted. Nowadays I have slightly less muscle than back then but I'm finally lean and I constantly get people commenting on my physique and women actually approach me. I'll never bulk above 15% bodyfat again bros.

Tirzepatide also completely trivializes getting lean. Tried it for the first time this cut and it's night and day. Can literally turn off hunger. No excuse to be >15% bodyfat as a male in 2025.

>>76272758

Some consider using GLP1s cheating though. I agree though I spent too much of my 20s-early 30s being fat because I was too lazy to cook my own food but yeah once you lean yourself out, even if you don't have as much muscle, you look better and women will actually hit on you.

It's just sad that so many people fell for that lie

>>76272700 (OP)
> Hey are a fat fuck with no discipline? I have a program that will make your destructive eating habits an asset.
it was easy.

>>76272700 (OP)
>How did people convince new lifters that this was desirable? You spend all that time in the gym to get "strong" but since you're fat you still get no bitches.
Hey anon. What is someone wants to get strong... Just for the sake of being strong.

Which isn't mutually exclusive with being lean, regardless.

>>76272700 (OP)
What are you talking about. Nobody convinced new lifters this was desirable. You are arguing with something imaginary in your mind.

>>76272727
You are very fat and weak aren't you. If you think keeping a caloric deficit is hard.

>>76272854


True! It's just crazy how so many people just stuck with it

>>76272854
>the convincing. Turns out, moving weights for an hour every now and again is infinitely easier than sticking to a caloric deficit

6 months later:
I injured my back, what are some exercises i wont bother doing to fix my herniated disc? I guess putting hundreds of pounds on my spine after a lifestyle of sitting all day wasnt a good idea!

>>76272700 (OP)
>but since you're fat you still get no bitches.
?

>>76272700 (OP)
>you still get no bitches.
People who's lives revolve around worshiping women end up wanting to be one.

>>76272700 (OP)
i put on more muscle maintaining when i learned to lift good

>>76272758
>15%
you arent doing 2 powerlifting blocks in a row you cut after every muscle building cycle? It takes like 4-8wks, and if you say bulk for 2 days then maintain/cut on rest days you can basically just get bigger and leaner year round albeit less yearly gains.

test definitely goes down drastically past 12%, if not just a result of the process but i digress.

>>76272758
I’m i more than 15%? Should I be on a deficit?

> reddit refugees who don't lift and only diet think not eating is harder than benching 5pl8
How do you get this delusional?

>>76273354
no they lift they think 5pl8s is for roiders only and somehow someone else is also at 9pl8s and they arent just retarded meanwhile legit 600lb bench is top tier roider.

>>76273374
how am i retarded if i just keep doing what im doing it doesnt work i did something else correctly by my standards and guess what didnt work whos laughing now asshole?

>>76272700 (OP)
Simple, SS became a meme and autists fell for it in their obession to be special and better than the "normies".

>>76272818
>Some consider using GLP1s cheating though.
What the fuck, cheating against which rules? Against whom?
Do you think this is a sports match?

>>76273374
t. bench pr 180 lbs

>>76272700 (OP)

The mentality was for those who only cared about lifting big regardless of the cost. This was never about "getting bitches" you shitskin.

>>76272909
>You are arguing with something imaginary in your mind.
He's definitely not. It was more prevalent 10-15 years ago, but there was a definite push for a while there to convince new lifters to become powerfatties by default.

>>76273335
you need to work your chest more, wtf is that

>>76273427
>for those who only cared about lifting big regardless of the cost
If we assume this mentality is not just a massive cope to begin with (it is), the problem is the advice was given to those who did want "bitches" or even those who just wanted to lift for fun or basic health.

>>76273386
i should have 4plis in 1yr hopefully less, i put 1pl8 on my 1rm in a year before. whats your best year of lifting?

>>76273504
>4plis
>1pl8
>1rm
what are you even saying

>>76273487
youll notice a lot of powerlifters are all pec minor with big delts, while a big chest doesnt carry through as much like arnold from just spamming the shit out of an already heavy bench probably every other day so its even throughout. plus the tendons arent developed equally and hes standing in a weird posture, also on steroids its much easier to be too filled out because above.

>>76273514
oh god fucking dammit 135-405

>>76273380
Doood, I do SS and it freakin' works. I love the program. Just cut when you're done. No biggie.

>>76272700 (OP)
fit kept calling me a dyel so i had to bulk

>>76272700 (OP)
SIT DOWN

>>76272700 (OP)
It was either this or become a gay bodybuilder. There were no other options before the 2010's.

>>76273568
The idea was simple. If you can't do 1/2/3/4 the best ROI is getting yourself to it as fast as possible. SS being the fastest way.
Somehow this has turned into 'everyone needs to be superheavyweight powerlifters.;
It's because the current crop of "people" on this board are SO low IQ and SO brown they look at some 200+ lb guy at 18% bodyfat and say 'wow that looks bad' and some 150 lb guy at 10% and say 'that looks better' and can't think of it beyond those terms.

>>76273277


Every man wants a bitch. What's the point of being alive if you don't get bitches

>>76273380


It's funny how dudes wanted to workout to get women and idiots told them to be "strong" instead.

I'm pretty sure most dudes would rather be aesthetic and not that strong over VERY strong but fat

>>76273650
Flat out wrong.

>>76273504
>whats your best year of lifting?
National level powerlifting numbers for my weightclass back when I did heavy lifting.


>>76273568
>>76273763
Post body.

>>76273950
whats your max like 3-5? im hoping 275 for me, yes i know its pathetic im also lifting a shitload and fucked up shoulder right now.

>>76272700 (OP)
Muh dik

>>76273934
You're a nigger or pajeet

>>76274191


So you'd go on in life if it meant you couldn't have sex?

>>76273354

>>76272818
>Some consider using GLP1s cheating though.
Who the fuck cares anon? Are you in a competition that explicitly bans it? No? Then it's not cheating

>>76272818
>muh cheating
I'll use every medicine available to reach my goals, humanity has evolved and the world is literally you vs you.

>>76275823

true

>>76272700 (OP)
This guy is way too fat but if you have a lot of muscle and just a bit of flub women really dont mind. You can't be obese though.

>>76276618
This only works if you’re like 6’5. You cant be a short built fat man in 2025, lean is law

>>76272727
nuke of trvth

>>76274883
lol