Is this unironically the natty limit for someone with good genetics? I mean, you can't do better than having a 7x Mr Olympia for a father.

>>76273315 (OP)
PS He's 6'2.

>>76273315 (OP)
nah you can still get bigger

>>76273315 (OP)
Can probably get a little bigger and considerably leaner.

That's not bad though.

>>76273315 (OP)
bigger isnt the question its stronger, id rather look like shit and be stronger but thats obviously a result of changing technique getting higher lifting numbers and never going back. Trying to maintain strength like that is "fake natty" domain like mike ohearn hes pretty crispy from the roids though but is 5pl8 bench for reps ish, roiding typically fries your liver and you are too scared to keep roiding hard or else youll die of liver failure.

>>76273331
>id rather look like shit and be stronger
Mabye you'll successfully cut next year, I believe in you dawg.

>>76273315 (OP)
funny he has Arnold’s wide waist. Still looks good

>>76273331
Size = strength retard.

>>76273315 (OP)
I literally have the same physique with big chest, reluctant delts, big arms and thighs. Just with worse muscle building potential because my dad is’nt Arnold

>>76273360
i mean myfibrillar vs sarcoplasmic muscle idk if theres anything else to be looked into desu but its strength vs size aka density/size. thats why bikers have such huge calves and legs, because low rest sets are basically a cardio workout and give little strength compared to denser muscle youll feel it in the pump if you nail a heavy set vs just spamming reps.

roiders cant train strength as well because theyre constantly about to tear something but they can get way more massive cardio muscles. and no if i cut its just so i can do another fast food and beer bulk for longer.

>>76273462
i train to put on size, its just roiders arent gonna benefit from straining their tendons since the recovery for them is worse than natural, is why people who start with a bad base dont get nearly as far before falling apart.

>>76273629
do you get shoulder pain benching with stronger chest than delts?

>>76273315 (OP)
Kek, not even that is natty.

>>76273629
He's wider than you though.

>>76273656
I dropped bench in favor of weighted dips, however, as long as I arched properly I didn't get shoulder pain.

>>76273685
True, the inescapable curse of narrow clavicles.

>>76273629
What's wrong with your tits

>>76273900
What do you mean? Elaborate.

>>76273315 (OP)
It's remarkable you can clearly see this is Arnolds son from his muscle shape.

>>76273939
Also hints that Arnold actually did something with his calves, because Joseph's are really bad.

>>76273900
He's black

>>76273922
Why are your nipples in a disagreement

>>76273952
They had a fall out.