>been dieting from 90 to 80kg
>could never do pull ups
>look up pic rel
>apparently cheat code to get me to pull ups in mere weeks
>try it
>fucking destroy my biceps
>tendons still hurt 3 days later
>read shit online
>apparently don't do negative pull ups if you have a shit back and can't cable pulldown or row youre own weight
>I can't even pulldown 70
Why the fuck is everyone pedaling this dangerous bullshit as a pull up gateway for weaklings, fucking assholes

Are you a midget and morbidly obese?

I weight 74, I can do 4-5 pull ups but I can cable pulldown 65 at most for 4-reps and with great effort. I think I did 70kg for 4 reps just one time.
So you don't need to pull down as much as you weight but cable pulldowns are thr most propedeutic exercise.
Sorry you got hurt oo, better luck next time

>>76296202 (OP)
git gud faggit

bodyweight exercises are only for twinks

>>76296238
This, put on a dip belt and add at least a plate if you're doing pull ups.

>>76296202 (OP)
Tendonitits is pretty much a rite of passage in calesthenics, strengthen your rotator cuff and try again with better form

I never got tendonitis or whatever but I do feel like negatives were pretty meh for my 0 pullups to some pullups progression. Most effective is just assisted pull-ups with a band imo.

They did help me I feel
I went from absolutely 0 pullups to now 4ish (altho I'm completely stuck now at 4...)
However before doing negatives I followed the progression I found on reddit and did scapular pulls and arch hangs first, maybe that helped not fucking myself up too badly?

>>76296238
>>76296406
Weak fat faggots.
>muh squat
>muh squaaat

>>76296238

>>76296202 (OP)
It must be some troll or a scheme to gatekeep fitness because most advice is geared towards already resilient athletic people. If you're a complete never trained noodle 90% of online advice doesn't apply

>>76296202 (OP)
>oh no my muscles hurt after working out, I shouldn't be pushing myself to pickup bigger weights than I currently can

>>76296202 (OP)
>apparently don't do negative pull ups if you have a shit back and can't cable pulldown or row youre own weight
where did you read this retarded advice? complete bullshit, what would even be the point of negatives if you can already pull your own weight?


>fucking destroy my biceps
>tendons still hurt 3 days later
yeah that happens when you're weak and begin training, rest and repeat

if you can lower yourself slowly doing negatives its fine and you can keep doing them, if you just drop like dead weight you might be better off trying inverted rows or something like that if you want to keep it bodyweight only

>>76296406
>>76296238
t. fatasfatass

>>76296202 (OP)
Slow negative and isometric (>30s for each) are the single best way to increase tendon strength. Only a complete retard would argue against them

>>76296202 (OP)
>guys I worked out and now my muscles are sore, what the fuck? You lied to me!

>>76296202 (OP)
>I can't even pulldown 70

>>76296202 (OP)
>>I can't even pulldown 70
kg right?