>>76297078 (OP)Mentzer kinda styled himself as a "science-based" lifter too, but all his ideas boiled down to one obvious, intuitive thing that everyone already agreed with: you have to fatigue the muscle as much as possible. that's all that his version of HIT involves. "science-based lifting" now is are these hyper "optimized" routines where you deviate from common sense in a million ways because you read some one-off studies with conclusions like "people who did x instead of y had 0.02% more improvement after 3 years"