If you aren’t peatpilled by now you’re NGMI

Have you actually read his articles?

>>76299422
Yes and it changed my life instantly

he's a mental case but there was a lot of good discussion outside the scope of his stupid advice

>>76299442
His advice isn’t stupid
Orange juice will change your life

>>76299415 (OP)
just ate some panna cotta, peaty ass dessert fr

>>76299424
No you haven't. They're indecipherable.

>>76299462
Birds have big brains and high body temp. Therefore, sugar and coconut oil are good for you.

>>76299415 (OP)
he says ice cream is a superfood so i like him

>>76299493
If you make your own free of goychems with a ninja creami you can make truly peatpilled ice cream

>>76299415 (OP)
I started spamming gelatin and aspirin and it cured my insulin sensitivity

>>76300419
How do you consume gelatin? You just powder that shit on food? You eat it with a spoon? You drink supplements?
What about aspirin? You take 1 pill a day? Or what? I don't get it

>>76300432
Bone broth

>dyel
>only lived to 86
Why should I be following him again?

>>76300969
This
Follow jack lalanne instead

>>76299415 (OP)
aye, lad, love me a nice, peaty scotch

>>76300904
Why did you completely and very consciously avoid answering about aspirin?
And why did you automatically gave such a bot response? Bone broth? Wow really? You drink bone broth like a cocktail in the evening? You dip bread in it? You pour over foods? You make soup with it?
Answer me nugget and talk like a God damn human

>>76300998
Does Peat even talk about exercise? Lifting?

>>76301098
He does but not much, understandably.
Walking is basically it

>>76301132
>understandably
Why understandably? That's a huge thing to leave out

>>76299415 (OP)
How does one lose weight while peating?

>>76300969
Peat had a horribly unhealthy childhood its a miracle he made 86 which proves peat diet works

>>76301264
>which proves peat diet works
You're using "prove" pretty loosely here

>>76300432
>glycine pills
>2 tablespoons of gelatin powder every time i make a pan sauce
>3-4 tablespoons of gelatin powder every time i make a soup
>1 tablespoon dissolved into tea
>homemade jello (3/4 tbs per cup juice) for wife and kids
>homemade marshmallows for wife and kids
>protein brick (2 tablespoons gelatin per cup milk) cut into slabs like spam

aspirin i just took 325 mg 1-2x per day while i was cutting with 1 mg vitamin k2 per 325mg so it didnt fuck up my stomach, and then only 2-3x per week after the cut was over, same amount of k2

>>76301264
I guess that Dr. McDougall having a stroke in his 20s after eating garbage throughout his childhood and then living to 76 or whatever he was proves that his diet works too, huh? I guess we should all go vegan and eat no fat

>>76302321
it at least proves that it can sustain you for that long even against a bad hand in life

>>76302329
So, since two radically different diet compositions work, would you at least concede that it's not the diet and that what you're switching from is really what's making the difference?

>>76302333
checked, but I'm not even the guy you were arguing with, just checked in on the thread and replied to the last post but McDougall diet is legit, I have nothing else to say

>>76302342
Nobody was arguing. It's called a discussion.

>>76300969
86 is longer than than the average.

>>76299415 (OP)
Wtf I've been doing POPAD (pound of potatoes a day) for a month now. Should I switch to peat?

>>76300432
Gelatin cubes.

1. Heat fruit juice (don't boil)
2. Add gelatin powder (or sheets)
3. Wait till solved
4. Pour into ice cube tray
5. cool
6. coat cubes slightly in a mixture of starch and powdered sugar to prevent sticking.

>>76302394
Keep doing the potato diet for a few more months. Switch to Peat after that.

>>76300432
>>76302067
>>76302395
all shit, just take hydrolyzed collagen peptides
more bioavailable by FAR and easy to fit into your diet

>>76302396
Ok. Thanks, anon. At least I won't have to switch to a different acronym.

>>76300969
The CIA killed him. A lot of his ideas are now being co-opted by Thiel Capital which is why they had to kill him in order to apply the principles of bioenergetics to their own ends, rather than those in which Ray believed. It is known that during his time at Blake college, the CIA sent agents to monitor him and his colleagues, and they succeeded in eventually causing its closure.
Let’s extrapolate now and consider that his work became increasingly popular since 2020 and was notably shilled by BAP in 2017, a known recipient of Thiel funding. A few friends of mine were in Praxis meetings in Portugal and New York and they reported that all of the attendees knew about and practiced Peating. He was perfectly healthy right up until he died and seemingly just dropped dead of no apparent reason.
I hate the antichrist

>>76299462
They're mostly just explaining connections between studies he cites. You're not really getting filtered by something like that, are you?

>>76301098
>>76301139
Peat was never trying to be some gay influencer lifestyle coach. He didn't even like the concept of a "Ray Peat diet". He spent his life studying what interested him and that didn't include "fitness".

>>76302401
Collagen has the same glycine content but doesn't coat the gut lining like gelatin does, so they won't give you benefits wrt protecting digestive system from aspirin, treating IBS, protecting from endotoxins and so on.
If you don't have any of those problems then the collagen peptides is easier but it's not a strict replacement.

>>76300432
aspirin is dumb advice btw

>>76300419
does it do anything for it? it could be just the gelatin, aspirin still has sides don't take it if u don't need it

>>76303406
There is no explanation. There is a dump of studies with no thread tying it together or proof of his conclusions. It's gish gallop with a introduction and conclusion that impresses people into thinking it must be proof.

>>76303417
If what interested him was health and longevity he should have learned something about fitness.

>>76303389
>no apparent reason
Wasn't it following extended smoke inhalation because there was a fire near his house? (which they could have set, obviously, but it wasn't for no reason)

>>76299415 (OP)
Give me the short pls?

>>76302395
I can only get pig gelatin, fuck

>>76303856
>It's gish gallop with a introduction and conclusion that impresses people into thinking it must be proof.
I'm sorry you got filtered. I'm not sure what you're referring to specifically since Peat was very prolific but to be fair, he was a very smart guy and didn't make any attempt to dumb down his writings. He didn't have any interest in fame, only sharing his research and conclusions with people capable of understanding.

There are lots of people out there who will dumb it down for you if you need help.


>>76306157
Your diet and lifestyle should be structured around ensuring that your metabolism is functioning as optimally as possible. Most diseases, including cancer, are metabolic diseases and only arise as the result of a under functioning metabolism, something which has a massive range of effects on your entire body.

The best way to keep your metabolism going strong is a diet that is very high in carbs, ideally sugars, ideally from fruit. Seed oils are one of the worst things you can eat for metabolic health, primarily due to how aggressively they ruin the health of your thyroid.

That aside, some important points are things like:
>grains and vegetables are net negative foods; there's nothing in them you can't get from fruit or meat and they're packed with damaging compounds
>a mix of muscle and organ meats is important, due to both nutrient and amino acid balance (the latter being why you see everyone talking about gelatin in this thread: muscle meats are low in glycine but it can be found in large amounts in gelatin)
>learning about and tracking your micronutrient intake and balance is important, especially in regards to keeping a balanced ratio of things that need balancing, like zinc to copper or calcium to phosphorus
>saturated fats are good for you and, generally, the less saturated a fat is, the worse it is for you
>all forms of polyunsaturated fat should be avoided as aggressively as possible; the ideal dietary intake is zero

>>76303780
Where did he get the idea that gelatin coats your gut lining??
To begin with most of the gelatin in your digestive track will eventually break down
And then the remaining gelatin, why would it coat your gutlining? Why wouldn't that make it actually worse, blocking absorption potentially
It doesn't even make sense that coating the gutlining would be good

>>76306501
>There are lots of people out there who will dumb it down for you if you need help.
First of all, bite me.
Second of all. I don't believe almost anyone following Peat or claiming to read him has the medical knowledge to decipher and judge what he says.
Third, it is not about dumbing down. His evidence does not follow a thread of logic or prove his supposed points. It is just a dump of information.
Fourth, if you actually understand something, it is shown by making it understandable to people. Overwhelming them with incomprehensible jargon is the sign of a bullshitter.
Picking an article at random
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/cholesterol-longevity.shtml
You have read this, and understood what he said well enough to judge whether or not he's correct? Really?

Should I just assume that unspecified fats are PUFA?
For example, I have some peanut butter that lists 15g fat per serving, of which 2.5g is saturated fats and 0g is trans fats. That's 12.5g of fats from an unknown category.

>>76306832
>You have read this, and understood what he said well enough to judge whether or not he's correct? Really?
Yes, it's a pretty straightforward article. I understand that we're on /fit/ but there's nothing in that article that should be "overwhelming". He is beginning with a relatively radical claim
>Everything that doctors know about cholesterol is wrong.
and as should be expected of someone making a claim like that, he provides as much evidence and reasoning as possible in support of his claim.

Which part specifically is giving you trouble? Maybe it's the formatting that's bothering you? You can think of articles like that one as more of collections of bullet points under a common heading rather than a newspaper article. Peat was a research scientist, not an author, and his articles present information efficiently rather than comfortably.

>>76307453
If you don't know enough to be able to say what those fats are based on the ingredients then yes, that's a safe assumption. Some monounsaturated fats are good but those tend to come from rather specific sources (cacao, macadamia nuts) whereas the vast majority of plant-based fats tend to be at least partially polyunsaturated.

Peanut butter does have a high ratio of polyunsaturated fat. If you're unsure about a common food, wikipedia does tend to have a good breakdown most of the time:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_butter#Nutritional_profile
>Both crunchy and smooth peanut butter are sources of saturated and monounsaturated fats (mainly oleic acid) as 25% of total serving amount, and polyunsaturated fat (12% of total), primarily as linoleic acid).

>>76307542
>and as should be expected of someone making a claim like that, he provides as much evidence and reasoning as possible in support of his claim.
Does he?
He always starts off with a lucid introduction and then conclusion.
It's the middle he fills with incomprehensible medical jargon.
You understand all of that, and evaluate it case by case?
Or just take his word for it
I had someone with more medical knowledge than me look at it and he said
>This article is a random collection of true scientific facts, which fail to add up to anything meaningful or point to anything in particular.
which was basically my sense. He's bullshitting and the medical info dump is not making the point he says and is just there to obfuscate and impress.

>>76300419
tell me more, please, I took mk-677 and I really shouldn't have (entire family is diabetic), got prediabetes I am just starting to treat with metformin and some weight loss.

>>76299462
Are you the same guy posting this every time

>>76299415 (OP)
Sorry, but he was a pseudoscientific midwit like that Anjewanus guy.

>>76308870
I ran MK-677 with metformin as an adjuvant in the first place because I was smarter and did not get prediabetes; but now I get extra insulin sensitivity/activity with chromium and vanadium like I'm some kinda special-ass wrench you buy at the hardware store, kek.

friendly reminder that all the people who espouse the nutty nonsense that this guy tells people to do have never posted body

Peat

>>76306501
Thanks what's Peat's take on protein?

no the writings actually say
>eat milk, oysters, and jello
>meat is full of toxic pufa and toxic iron, so only eat it when accompanied by megadoses of vit e, vit c, and caffeine
>seeds contain estrogen, which is bad because it slows metabolism
>some people can't digest vegetables
>supplement thyroid hormones to induce hyperthyroidism because none of the rest of this actually works

>>76307542
Thanks for this. I ended up using ChatGPT to help me get PUFA quantities (or at least estimates) in my common diet. Turns out I've been eating at least 12g per day. Currently trying to retool my food choices to reduce that.

>>76310431
Yeah, this totally isn't an eating disorder at all.

>>76299415 (OP)
Sup d00dz

From what I've seen, there's no formal standardized Peat "diet" just suggestions, like drinking lots of milk, OJ and coffee, because taking in lots of sugar, vitamin C and caffeine help the body on average manage stress better and have some other health benefits, and using coconut oil instead of your standard vegetable oils because of saturated fats are good or whatever. As far as an actual diet is concerned I think people in the community who aren't stupid will tell you to try different stuff out and see what your body digests the easiest while looking at studies to see what on average has the best effects on the thyroid, balanced hormones, impacts the gut the least etc. so basically DIY, but not just eating *anything*, always what your gut will have the easiest time processing, with a focus on promoting thyroid function, keeping sugar high or at least higher than you're usually told, keeping serotonin low and so on.

There's no real universal prescriptions that apply to literally everybody for what way to get there because at the end of the day each person has different tolerances and processes food slightly differently which is why the Peat community and Peat himself often contradict themselves, I don't think this is pernicious or a bad thing necessarily, if they agreed on one universally applicable diet it would be more like a cult and would be a lot more untrustworthy.

>>76306161
What're the meaningful differences between pig & beef gelatin?

>>76303785
It inhibits muscle protein synthesis right?

>>76310431
>>supplement thyroid hormones to induce hyperthyroidism because none of the rest of this actually works
kek

>>76311054
I've cycled a little bit of T3 before and it's actually pretty legit stuff, but doing enough to go full hyperthyroidism is bad news and will shut down your thyroid.