Being fat can reduce testosterone by 67%.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10763932/#pone.0294567.t002

>>76306528 (OP)
>"""man""" has bitch tits
anon we could tell

Lower than 10% sees a drop in test

>>76306528 (OP)
>Being unhealthy is unhealthy.

>>76306766
like 1% of men are below 10% in Western countries

>>76306528 (OP)
Thanks for the motivation to lean out.

>>76306528 (OP)
I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

>>76306528 (OP)

>>76306528 (OP)
>starts at 12%
>scale goes all the way to fucking 55%
wow thanks bro

>>76306864
>OOH LOOK AT ME!!!
>I DREW ADDITIONS TO A RESEARCH WITH PAINT
>THIS MEANS I MUST BE CORRECT!!!!!

>>76306864
I'd like to see source though.

>>76306528 (OP)
>correlation = causation

>>76307126
>take steroids
>build muscle and lose bodyfat
holy shit I had no idea my fatness was causing me to be natty!

>>76306778
try .001%

>>76307126

>>76307111

>>76307117
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8336548/

>>76306528 (OP)
>can
will

>>76309126
being 30% fat will reduce it by 67%?

>>76309215
At 10% is double compared to 30%

>>76309336
50% is not 67%

>>76307126
okay then, what causes being fat and being low in test?

>>76306528 (OP)
WAGMI boys

>>76306771
is he going to kiss an anus?

>>76309583
Spend less time online

>>76306528 (OP)
The absolute number one rule, correlation does not equal causation, is the number one rule for a reason.

There is definitely a strong relationship between testosterone and bodyfat, but we don't know in which direction that relationship flows. Testosterone and bodyfat could both be controlled by the same hormone/gene/molecular mechanism, and a healthy lifestyle and good mindset might affect both. Testosterone could be affected by bodyfat, so lowering your bodyfat could raise testosterone. Bodyfat could be affected by testosterone, so lowering your bodyfat would do absolutely nothing for your testosterone. The two could have a see-saw kind of relationship, which means you would need to work on exercise, mindset AND fat burning specifically to raise testosterone.

The conclusion of this study is not that being fat reduces testosterone, the conclusion is that there is a relationship between bodyfat and testosterone.

>>76307207
The point of the correlation/causation idea is that if you make an interesting observation, you need to keep digging and make more detailed observations before you can say anything meaningful. You need to attack your own ideas and if you can disprove them, the ideas aren't that good. If they hold up, they will be confirmed and become more detailed as you progress.

Correlation/causation is about long-term research and generating results with the highest possible degree of reliability (which can never be 100%, only come close to it). Your comic has nothing to do with research.

Look up Karl Popper and read some of his stuff.

>>76309494
We don't know. We have to keep digging and researching and find out more about this. It's totally fine to say that the OP article is an interesting observation, but that observation is not enough to make any claims about how any of this works. If we want to find out, we have to keep researching. You don't find out by making retarded claims and sticking to it.

>>76306528 (OP)
Powerbarabros????

>>76306528 (OP)
What about the process of bulking than trying to stay at a certain bodyfat% and not actually bulking?

>>76309600
nice AI post

>>76309494
very simple,
>eat too much
>get fat
>fat tissue aromatizes testosterone to estrogen
>more fat means more aromatization and less total test

secondary causation may include low vitamin d status as a result of obesity.

low base test = low energy + high proclivity for higher bf% = low drive for sports = staying fat
actual high test individuals actually drop in test a little if they lose weight

>>76309642
More like, AI was trained on all the shit I've written over the years

>>76307466
this shitty "research" top kek

(I believe that under a certain bf% it IS harmful but it wont be 12% that is for sure ... more like 5)