Cutting doesn't have to feel like shit, you know

>he's unironically on carnivore

>>76307595
given how common low carb diets have become how come reports such as these haven't become more common. if anything it is the opposite. seems to be outliers more than anything perhaps an unknown preexisting condition or ultra rare genetic trait

What is the point of NOT eating some veggies? And isn't that sausage ultra processed shit?

>>76307655
I'm sure it's something about antinutrients. I don't care I eat them because they add significantly to the enjoyment of many meals.

>>76307659
>it's something about antinutrients.
These are mostly a meme unless you're on some crazy medical/pezzie kinda diet. Like peanuts block iodine absorption sure, but if you're eating enough iodine well separate in time from the peanuts you can basically pig the fuck out on them without fucking up your thyroid. Same thing goes with green tea and iron, and many other "anti-nutrients." It's mostly just meal timing and nutrition skill issues.

>>76307655
>What is the point of NOT eating some veggies
Why would you? Veggies taste like shit and have no nutrients compared to meat. Plants don't want you to eat them, which is why they spike their leaves, stems, roots, etc. with a shitload of carcinogens and oxalates.
Do it if you want, but it's pointless. Cut out the veggies and you'll feel better.

>>76307673
>shitload of carcinogens and oxalates.
>anon doesn't know even picrel lets you digest oxalates.
>anon doesn't know lots of plants even have activity as chemoprophylaxis and/or chemotherapy, like pineapple for example.

>>76307606
Keto/low carb diets went out of vogue with fatties once ozempic became readily available

>>76307675
>like pineapple
Pineapples are fruits. There's a big difference between something a plant wants you to eat (fruits to distribute seeds) and shit they don't want you to eat (seeds, grains, stems, roots) aka vegetables.
If you have no problem eating fruit and it doesn't make you feel like shit, feel free to add it to a mostly meat based diet. But if it kicks you out of ketosis you'll slow down your fat loss.

>>76307689
>There's a big difference between something a plant wants you to eat (fruits to distribute seeds) and shit they don't want you to eat (seeds, grains, stems, roots) aka vegetables.
Not entirely; there are some very toxic (for humans at least) fruits and also some very safe vegetables, but on average fruits as a whole probably do have lower toxicity.

>>76307587 (OP)
Every time I've tried carnivore I've felt like absolute shit and the dog shit smelling diarrhea doesn't help.

>>76307587 (OP)
>hes still fat and trying to cut during summer
bro just give up and try again next year lmao

>>76307673
Hoping this is bait, but how can people still be spouting this nonsense? Many drug companies use vegetables to discover new drugs precisely because they *do* have nutrients which benefit us and don't exist in meat.

Fairly recently we've found out that broccoli has anti-diabetic effects, up to and including reducing the severity of fatty liver disease. And I'm not talking about an artificially-concentrated extract, no, just eating plain old broccoli. The catch is you can't stir fry it or roast it; it has to be raw or steamed/boiled.

Not to mention how well beets reduce blood pressure - although you really do need to eat more than just a few slices in your salad to get that effect.

>>76307659
I would hate cutting so much more without vegetables, fresh salads especially. I can eat a piece of chicken and next to no rice but still content with my little rocket, tomato and cucumber salad.

>>76307606
Because its directly pointing out the irony of retards who go on social media with handles that indicate their retarded diet thing. You'd see the same shit for vegans with handles like "veganology" or some shit if they were hospitalized with pancreatic failure or some shit.
The vast majority of people retarded enough to do any extreme diet won't make it their entire online identity.

>>76307587 (OP)
Was on it for a year and it was the healthiest I've ever felt, but I recently introduced some fruits again to push me into a caloric surplus for a bulk.

>>76307711
Sucks to be a grazer, lol.
>>76307875
>muh planty super medicine
Nice blackrock approved dietary voodoo mumblings, "anon"

Low carb is fine. I'm getting a much higher deficit just eating fruit and a handful of gummy bears through my 10 hour shift and not eating like a retard when I have dinner with my family.

>>76307875
>stir fry is bad
>but boiling is okay
*sigh*

>>76307675
>pineapple
not a plant, retarded monkey

>>76308377
my favorite way to prepare broccoli is blanching (boil for 50 seconds)

>>76307711
That's a shame. Carnivore is turning me into a jacked beast. Gained 20 pounds in 3 months and still have abs.

>>76307587 (OP)
i never get my eggs to look thus good
its always "ops now its scrambled"

>>76307673
>Veggies taste like shit
this nigger doesn't know how to cook

>>76309469
skill issue

Am I supposed to fast on carnivore?

>>76307587 (OP)
Thanks. I just choose not to live my life by fad and memes because I actually have a functioning prefrontal cortex.

>>76309562
Some people feel better on meat. It’s not a fad

>>76307875
>>76307669
When you're pushing a new fad diet, the way that fad diets work is you need to demonize an entire food group. Everything else had been tried, so vegetables were the only thing left on the chopping block. Low carb diets, demonized carbs, low fat diets, demonized fat, etc, etc. In order to have your fad diet catch on, you need to have something new and interesting. And whenever somebody says vegetables are killing you, it makes everyone pay attention. Because they're like, what the hell?

>>76307595
>keeps posting the same anectodal case every time

It's like that truck driver with half of his face damaged by the sun, a photo which was taken like 60 years ago and nothing new has been taken since.

>>76309566
Thats correct, because some people feel good, that means it's not a fad. The south beach diet and the cookie diet weren't fads because some people felt good eating cookies for 3/4 mealsm

>>76309573
this is retarded because there's no science behind the cookie diet and nobody is doing that for multiple years

>>76307587 (OP)
But it has to get you lean lardass

>carnivore
enjoy your plaque

>>76310471
Correct. You saying something absolutely makes it objectively true.

>>76310494
there are multiple studies observing patients long term on a carnivore diet, with most markers of health improving
find me some for the "cookie diet"

https://www.doctorkiltz.com/the-harvard-carnivore-diet-study/

>>76310518
>self reported health status
LMAO

>>76310518
>My source proving that my diet is good is a doctor who advocates for this diet.
>the study is self reported
>the doctor sells supplements
>none of them actually strictly followed the carnivore diet
Haha okay bud

>>76309469
i vastly prefer scrambled

>>76307587 (OP)
I would happily do this if I could make sure my cholesterol doesn't go up. I already got a xanthelasma from eating too much cheese.
>>76307673
>Plants don't want you to eat them
As opposed to animals? Fucking kek. Our ancestors were omnivores for hundreds of thousands of years. Unless you are from certain parts of the world where they literally only have animals as a food source (tibet, arctic, etc.) then every single ancestor you had ate plants.
>>76309469
Take the omelet pill.

>>76311726
>tfw I eat plenty of meat, eggs, cheese, and have perfect cholesterol and even slightly low end of normal bp
I suppose it's all genes when it comes down to it.

>>76307606

When you eat low carb you should eat a balanced diet, not mayo wrapped in bacon 3 times a day.

People saying keto is dangerous only focus on the retards who fall for the ''muh fatty ass meat topped with more fat is healthy'' meme.

If you need to butter up a good quality cut of meat you're extremely retarded and wasting your money too.

You can eat as many eggs as you like but if you start eating processed sausages and cured bacon everyday along with it instead of diversifying your meat towards better quality stuff and completing with other foods, you will be eating unhealthy the same way as the fat ass getting his big mac meal.

>>76311726
No doubt they ate plants in some proportion. But I guarantee they sere not eating bowls of salad bathing in olive oil. Their choices and availability were minimal amd seasonal compared tonwhat we have now.

Now, a big part of the carnivore diet debate how good meat is in relation plants that get shilled as healthy and which plants and quantities are the least detrimental to human nutrition.

>>76311726
>As opposed to animals?
Animals developed mobility and physical defense mechanisms to help them escape
Cows move in herds and will ram the shit out of you if you try to eat them
Deer will run the fuck away
Chickens / Ducks will fly
That's very different compared to plants, which are stationary, and spike themselves with toxins to fuck over anyone eating them. Sure humans can digest these toxins in normal amounts, but they still exist and will kill smaller animals.

>>76307587 (OP)
Good luck with cholesterol clogging your circulation.

>>76312146
I'm not so sure I agree that saturated fat is bad in the absence of carbs but yeah i wouldnt tell someone to eat that way

>>76312320
fell for debunked psyops award
knows nothing about nutrition award
seed oil enjoyer award

>>76313395
Back to /pol/

>>76313395

>>76307587 (OP)
I've never felt bad while cutting just be yourself

>>76307587 (OP)
Based carnivore chad
We rule this board

Can I intermittent fasting with carnivore?

>>76313973
yeah no reason why not
I do long fasts (either a single 5 day fast or two 3 day fasts) each month, but on days when I'm eating I just eat whenever I'm hungry. That usually ends up being a meal every 8 hours or so.
If you want to be stricter about it you could do 16/8 or 20/4, but you might find it tough since you'll feel full for quite a few hours after a meal.

>>76313973
Yes, it will probably help the diarrhea as well.

>>76307595
anti carnivore is a sentiment i get but you people have to stop posting the same, single example. don't you have some more examples if your point is true?

>>76315417
If it wasn't that effective you wouldn't respond

>>76307673
>Veggies taste like shit
stop steaming them and eating them without seasoning then?

Carnivore is fine. I was pure carnivore for two years and got much healthier as a result. Basically no supplements except for D3 because I was working a night job. Lost a ton of weight and fixed long term health issues. Added in rice and veggies later to help with fitness goals.

Just don't cultishly follow e-celebs who build an entire business model on shilling diets and identity. Experiment until you find something that works and ignore the rest.

>>76316105
Did you do it for weight loss?

Wtf are all these vegan trannies itt? I thought 4chin was based or something?
>>76311726
>the sun
It's literally the opposite though, the Jews tell us to do sunbathing because muh vitamin D while our ancestors lived in deep forests not seeing any sun at all.

>>76308158
You blended a parrot? You sick bastard.

Why do I experience inflammation when I eat carbs but the pain goes away on carnivore?

>>76307875
>Study by Dr Mohamed and Dr Muhhamed
Kek

>>76317014
Because you're nazi bigot, obviously. Beans are especially famous for making your guts feel good.

>>76307587 (OP)
>plastic cutting board
use wood

>>76307587 (OP)
How do I get over my disgust for food on the carnivore diet? Been on it for 2 weeks and the weight loss is great, but I can't see myself staying on it for life as I feel like I'm developing an eating disorder. The thought of eating a steak(or really any meat, but mostly fatty meat) makes me want to throw up.

>>76313469
Cholesterol is good for you

>>76316979
> the Jews tell us to do sunbathing because muh vitamin D while our ancestors lived in deep forests not seeing any sun at all.
This is the most retarded take I've ever seen. Is it Opposite Day or something?

>>76317434
Didn't mention cholesterol but ok

>>76317378
>How do I get over my disgust for food on the carnivore diet?
I'm not sure I've heard of this problem but maybe you aren't used to cooking on this diet yet? It took me a few weeks of trial and error at first before I was cooking ground beef, steaks, and pork chops that weren't over / under seasoned and tasted like shit.
If that's not what you mean then I'm not sure, maybe swap out some meat with eggs and ease into the diet?

> but I can't see myself staying on it for life
That's perfectly normal, it's an absurdly restrictive diet. No one expects to stay on it forever and the vast majority won't. It's better to think about it as an exercise in health and resetting your body. You'll become more aware about how your body reacts to food when you're conscious of what you're putting inside yourself, and over time you'll rethink your relationship with food. You'll lose the cravings you had for junk and sugar, and you won't feel like you're missing out on most of the foods in a modern diet. Most likely some point down the line you'll start expanding your diet back into normalcy by experimenting with what doesn't upset you, whether that's honey, fruits, some vegetables, rice, etc.

>>76307587 (OP)
carnivore meal with a side of plastic
can't you afford a plate?

>>76307595
>infographic /pol/ >:(
>infographic /fit/ :O

>>76317487
The food tastes fine when I actually eat. And to clarify, my version of carnivore is meats, poultry, seafood, eggs, and seasoning. When I have a really hard time getting something down I use a tiny bit of hot sauce or organic avocado oil mayo. No cheating other than that.
I think it's because I had too much fat on my first day which threw my body off. The thought of biting into a fatty steak makes me want to throw up, but I get over it as soon as I start eating.
And yeah, I really hope I can get rid of my "lick the plate clean" mentality that was established during my childhood. That's my top goal. After the diet, I plan to stick to just dairy, fruits, veggies, and meat, with the occasional burger and going out to eat whatever once a week.

>>76317457
Don't reply to threads if you are going to pretend you didn't read the original comment (I know you did)

>>76317959
Nowhere in the post chain that you're engaging in. Did anyone mention cholesterol or seed oils? You're just obsessed with boogeymen and fad diets. I'm sorry that you're so upset.

>>76317439
Though nevermind, I suppose you're an amerishart so fecal-coloured anyway.

>>76307673
>with a shitload of carcinogens and oxalates.
Which is why people who eat more veggies have increased rates of cancer...oh wait. No they don't they have decreased rates.

>>76318571
They do. They're also all retarded and impotent.

>>76318586
Right, all those centenarian carnivores

>>76318705
Carnivore peoples:
>mongols, inuits, proto-indo-europeans
Vegan peoples:
>pajeets (lmao)

>>76318899
Please show me proof of any of those people living two or over a hundred years of age instead of sidestepping the point.

>>76318571
>people that try to live healthy and eat their veggies are less likely to shove mcheartattacks in their face and die of heart attacks
WOW
more news at 7!!!
>in other news, veganism linked with heart disease....

>>76318899
Thanks for not addressing my point at all.

>>76318705
>for the entire history of the world except for the past 100 years people have been trying to maximize their protein and animal fat intake as much as possible

you, the retard comes in:
>ERMM PLEASE SHOW ME ALL THOSE 100 YEAR OLDS THAT HAD CONSTANT DAILY ACCESS TO RED MEAT AND ONLY EXCLUSIVELY ATE THE MOST EXPENSIVE FOOD GROUP THEIR ENTIRE LIVES
no way... you're telling me people have had to be omnivorous in order to survive in time periods where they couldn't go to walmart and buy ground beef every day?... holy shit I guess my diet is retarded.

>>76320068
I didn't see any links to any sources so I didn't read your post.

>>76320070
>sets irrelevant and impossibly high standard of evidence for an argument no one is making
>can't meet it? guess you lost this one, chud! #govegan

>>76319362
>muh pooint muh pooint
Who cares tranny? Would you like to eat like a Mongol or like a jeet? It's self-evident.

>>76320236
I'm sorry that you're so upset and refuse to actually have a coherent conversation and instead just resort to tribalistic insults.

>>76320262
>it's actually a jeet
Colours me surprised.

>>76320276
>>76320262

>>76320279
Ok. What's your caste sir?

>>76317434
>t.